Assassin's Creed: Syndicate

[LiangHuBBB]

<3 this game

so much more fun than MGS5

[esmittystud101]

I'm trying to get back into MGSV:PP but with all these great games that keep coming out, its hard. Syndicate > Black Ops 3> Tomb Raider, I'm not even getting Fallout or Star Wars but if I was it would be even longer before I started up metal gear again. Syndicate is very rich and full filling. I'm surprised on how much detail they gave the map though. I noticed just climbing you'll see moss/algae growing on the side of building as your climbing. Looks good. Just surprised they went in that deep.

Edited October 28, 2015 by esmittystud101

[make total destroy]

They made Marx look like f*cking Bernie Sanders.

 

f*ck this game.

[HaythamKenway]

I had the soundtrack on repeat for the last couple of days. So, so good. It took me some time to warm up to it, but now it's definitely my favorite score in the series, along with Revelations. Austin Wintory is god.

 

 

 

Reading through the reactions on the internet, I'm feeling kind of sad for the game and the development team. Most reactions from people who actually played the game are highly positive, but there is just so much hate aimed towards the game. And I get it, people are angry after the fiasco last year and Ubisoft deserved every piece of hate mail they got for it, but Syndicate really doesn't deserve to pay for Unity's mistakes, when it's all around improvement and a return to form for the series. If Unity just didn't exist, Syndicate's reception would be much, much more positive.

 

Oh well, that's what Ubi gets for forcing deadlines and annual releases. It's just a shame that a genuinely good game is dragged through mud as a result.

Edited October 29, 2015 by HaythamKenway

[combustion]

Is there any Assassin's Creed in this Assassin's Creed game? I honestly think that there was no big mention of the Creed in AC:Unity... the last main game to properly mention the Creed and explain its values was ACIV:Black Flag.

[Jvaz615]

Anyone got some tips to make money? Im always so low I cam barely afford upgrades

[esmittystud101]

Anyone got some tips to make money? Im always so low I cam barely afford upgrades

Pretty much what I do is when I complete an area, meaning I've done all side and main quests thats located in that area. I gather up every collectable in that area. Helix Glitches, chests, flower things, poster things, music boxes,ect. Seems like its giving me enough to get me through to the next area. The Thames river is a good spot as well for robbing boats thats on it. Also, when I do missions where you you have the option to capture and bring them in alive or dead, I always make sure there alive. I think you get more euro for it. Other than these methods though, I haven't figured anything else out. But I'll look around and edit the post later if I find anything new.

 

 

Edit: I forgot to mention that Gang Upgrades is good as well. Make sure to unlock Pub Investor, Pub Games, Book Maker, Tea Magnate and Shop Investor as well. Right now I only have the Pub Investor and everytime I visit the hideout (train) I get 2500 euro every three in game hours, so I'm guess by adding that total can get pretty high. Plus there will be alot of random activities you'll run into around the map, some for allies and other will be like clearing out Blighter areas which usually have chests in them. Also, unlock the Loot Takedown skill from the stealth tree, it basically loots enemies that you run up to (and they don't see you coming) and kill automatically so you don't have to waist time afterward.

 

 

Edit: I looked up if you get all Swindler Gang Upgrades, Pub Investor, Pub Games, Book Maker, Tea Magnate and Shop Investor and there all upgraded it gives you 130,000 euro every three in game hours of play.

Edited October 29, 2015 by esmittystud101

[Jvaz615]

Thanks for the tips. Very helpful. I have cleared out 4 areas so im going through and grabbing chests etc. Damn this is a fun game. Its a shame the negativity towards Unity is damaging Syndicate

[esmittystud101]

Thanks for the tips. Very helpful. I have cleared out 4 areas so im going through and grabbing chests etc. Damn this is a fun game. Its a shame the negativity towards Unity is damaging Syndicate

Unity is dragging down Syndicate, I couldn't agree more.

[Jvaz615]

 

Thanks for the tips. Very helpful. I have cleared out 4 areas so im going through and grabbing chests etc. Damn this is a fun game. Its a shame the negativity towards Unity is damaging Syndicate

Unity is dragging down Syndicate, I couldn't agree more.

Its sad really. Syndicate is what Unity should have been. Ubi was trying to hard with Unity and they f*cked up. With Syndicate they really nailed the formula. Great gameplay, lots of activities and Jacob and Evie are much better than Arno

[Fallcreek]

I haven't played Unity because I wasn't a fan of how it deviated from AC IV's engine, but I did pick this title up. The free running mechanics are just.. really floaty.. as expected, but so far I'm really enjoying this game. This'll definitely keep me distracted until Fallout 4 launches lol.

Edited October 30, 2015 by Fallcreek

[HaythamKenway]

Is there any Assassin's Creed in this Assassin's Creed game? I honestly think that there was no big mention of the Creed in AC:Unity... the last main game to properly mention the Creed and explain its values was ACIV:Black Flag.

I don't think you need to directly adress the Creed, if you properly explore the Assassins' and Templars' ideologies. AC III dealt with both of them much deeper than any of Ezio games, yet I don't think they ever even mentioned the Creed in that game.

 

I think Syndicate did a pretty decent job at this, for a game more focused on lighthearted adventure. It dealt with ineffective and out-of-touch Assassins, whose methods and approach hasn't changed in three hundred years struggling to keep up the pace with the Templars, who put the game on whole new level, narrow-minded protagonist largely detached from the people she sworn to protect because of her focus on the Creed and hunt for the Templars (though it kinda applies to Jacob too, but I consider him more of a loose canon, than a real Assassin), how easily Assassins resort to desperate "ends-justify-the-means" actions, just for the sake of slowing the Templars down and compromise their ideals to keep power and explored direct consequences of the Assassins' actions more than any other game in the series.

 

On the Templar side, I liked how much has the Order evolved in the years following the rise of the Industrial Revolution. It's no longer just a group of powerful people calling the shots, the Templars are now the system itself. They created it and now it's a machine running on its own and there's nothing the Assassins can do to stop it (except for large regime and society-changing revolutions like in Russia). They can't just kill off a few guys to make things better anymore, in fact messing with the system like that only creates a blowback that hurts the society at large. It's logical and very appropriate evolution of the Templars. In Syndicate they've essentially "won" the war already and all Assassins can do is violently carve their own little kingdom in the system and survive as long as they can, assimilate into the systems of power and try to hurt the Templars from within, by using their own methods or just go into hiding (which is what the Brotherhood does in 21st century).

 

 

[Niobium]

They made Marx look like f*cking Bernie Sanders.

 

f*ck this game.

this is what happens when you have an 'anti'-capitalist game published by a greedy, money-hungry, EA-like dev Edited October 31, 2015 by Niobium

[Cosmic Gypsy]

Bought this game for my mum's birthday, I've played it a fair bit now. I have some gripes about the response times, the speed at which they climb on occasions and unwanted actions that have always plagued the game, accidental wall ejects, jumping in the wrong direction, etc.

Some major gripes with the terrible AI, traffic are clueless and often just freeze in the street and don't do a thing, people are still stupid as f*ck and often don't react properly to what's happening around them. I also have gripes about it not being a true next gen game, that said I'm finding it surprisingly good. Probably my favourite Assassins Creed game to date. Love the soundtrack, the setting and the gang system on this game is amazing. Reminds me of The Warriors or something, red vs greens with blues being the police. Had some insanely tense spontaneous dynamic gang/police encounters just while roaming around, and when the crowds react appropriately and the right music kicks in at just the right time, it's really a thing of beauty.

Fighting is a bit limited and repetitive still unfortunately, and i still manage to cake walk my way past most things which is a shame. The game however isn't as bad as i thought it was going to be.

EDIT: Kinda feel like there should be more animals in this game, you see goats and chickens sometimes, the rare cat in the street and the odd rat here and there, but it's not enough. I want guard dogs and more cats, rats, etc. Another thing, i can see this game becoming very boring once all the Templar turf has been taken and there is nothing left but the green Rooks. Right now i have Whitechapel, The City Of London, Southwark and Lambeth in my possession, i think i'll leave Westminster and The Strand to them if i can. Not sure about the Thames.

Edited November 3, 2015 by Cosmic Gypsy

[HaythamKenway]

EDIT: Kinda feel like there should be more animals in this game, you see goats and chickens sometimes, the rare cat in the street and the odd rat here and there, but it's not enough. I want guard dogs and more cats, rats, etc. Another thing, i can see this game becoming very boring once all the Templar turf has been taken and there is nothing left but the green Rooks. Right now i have Whitechapel, The City Of London, Southwark and Lambeth in my possession, i think i'll leave Westminster and The Strand to them if i can. Not sure about the Thames.

The Blighters still show up in controlled districts. Not in hordes, of course, but enough for an occasional brawl.

[Vault111]

Bought this game for my mum's birthday, I've played it a fair bit now. I have some gripes about the response times, the speed at which they climb on occasions and unwanted actions that have always plagued the game, accidental wall ejects, jumping in the wrong direction, etc.

 

Some major gripes with the terrible AI, traffic are clueless and often just freeze in the street and don't do a thing, people are still stupid as f*ck and often don't react properly to what's happening around them. I also have gripes about it not being a true next gen game, that said I'm finding it surprisingly good. Probably my favourite Assassins Creed game to date. Love the soundtrack, the setting and the gang system on this game is amazing. Reminds me of The Warriors or something, red vs greens with blues being the police. Had some insanely tense spontaneous dynamic gang/police encounters just while roaming around, and when the crowds react appropriately and the right music kicks in at just the right time, it's really a thing of beauty.

 

Fighting is a bit limited and repetitive still unfortunately, and i still manage to cake walk my way past most things which is a shame. The game however isn't as bad as i thought it was going to be.

In what way is it not a true next gen game?

EDIT: Kinda feel like there should be more animals in this game, you see goats and chickens sometimes, the rare cat in the street and the odd rat here and there, but it's not enough. I want guard dogs and more cats, rats, etc. Another thing, i can see this game becoming very boring once all the Templar turf has been taken and there is nothing left but the green Rooks. Right now i have Whitechapel, The City Of London, Southwark and Lambeth in my possession, i think i'll leave Westminster and The Strand to them if i can. Not sure about the Thames.

In what way is it not a true next gen game? Edited November 3, 2015 by Vault111

[Cosmic Gypsy]

In the way that it still looks like a PS3 game being played on high PC settings, not even ultra. They have just given Assassins Creed a lick of paint and a bit of a polish, it's still the same as it was on PS3.

The fact that the animations are still the same, AI's just as terrible and about a hundred other reasons, make me consider this not next gen.

EDIT: I've said this before on this forum, but if you showed me Syndicate in 2007/2008 when i first started playing the first Assassins Creed on the PS3, and you tried telling me Syndicate was how Assassins Creed would look like 8 years later on PS4, i'd laugh in your face and call you a liar.

You don't even see behavior in the city, you don't actually get to see groups of kids, running around pick pocketing, you don't see families behaving as you would, you don't see busy market places where people are buying goods, etc. In fact no one on the game behaves as they would, they all pretty much still robotically walk around aimlessly with awkward animations, moving without meaning just to fill in the pedestrian numbers. They either walk around aimlessly or stand there aimlessly. If this is what you consider next gen then have a word with yourself.

Do tree's even blow in the wind on Syndicate, can't remember but i don't think they do. Is there even wind on Syndicate?

Edited November 3, 2015 by Cosmic Gypsy

[Creed Bratton]

In the way that it still looks like a PS3 game being played on high PC settings, not even ultra. They have just given Assassins Creed a lick of paint and a bit of a polish, it's still the same as it was on PS3.

 

The fact that the animations are still the same, AI's just as terrible and about a hundred other reasons, make me consider this not next gen.

 

EDIT: I've said this before on this forum, but if you showed me Syndicate in 2007/2008 when i first started playing the first Assassins Creed on the PS3, and you tried telling me Syndicate was how Assassins Creed would look like 8 years later on PS4, i'd laugh in your face and call you a liar.

 

You don't even see behavior in the city, you don't actually get to see groups of kids, running around pick pocketing, you don't see families behaving as you would, you don't see busy market places where people are buying goods, etc. In fact no one on the game behaves as they would, they all pretty much still robotically walk around aimlessly with awkward animations, moving without meaning just to fill in the pedestrian numbers. They either walk around aimlessly or stand there aimlessly. If this is what you consider next gen then have a word with yourself.

 

Do tree's even blow in the wind on Syndicate, can't remember but i don't think they do. Is there even wind on Syndicate?

It's not that they couldn't do it, it's that they don't have the time and they think they don't even need to try. There is no f*ckin' way that it takes them more than a year to make these games.

 

We know that they can do all stuff that you mentioned because it was done in Watch Dogs. Yes, WD is still a mediocre game, but it was full of those atmospheric little details that make the world feel truly alive. There's none of that in Assassin's Creed. The only AC game that felt a bit more believable was Black Flag.

Edited November 3, 2015 by The Yokel

[HaythamKenway]

You don't even see behavior in the city, you don't actually get to see groups of kids, running around pick pocketing, you don't see families behaving as you would, you don't see busy market places where people are buying goods, etc. In fact no one on the game behaves as they would, they all pretty much still robotically walk around aimlessly with awkward animations, moving without meaning just to fill in the pedestrian numbers. They either walk around aimlessly or stand there aimlessly. If this is what you consider next gen then have a word with yourself.

But Syndicate is full of these NPC behaviors. Go to, for example, Trafalgar Square, St. James Park or to any railway station, these places are more alive than anything I've ever seen in Los Santos. I admit, it is still nowhere near as "organic" as I would have liked, but it's definitely on par with Watch Dogs The Yokel mentioned.

 

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1306143-It-s-the-little-things

[esmittystud101]

 

You don't even see behavior in the city, you don't actually get to see groups of kids, running around pick pocketing, you don't see families behaving as you would, you don't see busy market places where people are buying goods, etc. In fact no one on the game behaves as they would, they all pretty much still robotically walk around aimlessly with awkward animations, moving without meaning just to fill in the pedestrian numbers. They either walk around aimlessly or stand there aimlessly. If this is what you consider next gen then have a word with yourself.

But Syndicate is full of these NPC behaviors. Go to, for example, Trafalgar Square, St. James Park or to any railway station, these places are more alive than anything I've ever seen in Los Santos. I admit, it is still nowhere near as "organic" as I would have liked, but it's definitely on par with Watch Dogs The Yokel mentioned.

 

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1306143-It-s-the-little-things

 

 

I thought the same thing. The is alot of NPC encounters in the game. I know I've seen kids running around playing pretty much every time I have played the game. I know there is a market place where they buy and sell goods. Even when I kill an enemy out in the open, people start flocking around the body, including children and start talking about it. With the added zip line, this map is very fun and not what I'm used to. I think alot of players are hung up on AC: II or pretty much older AC titles, and they have had there fulfillment with the series, and thats probably why Syndicate is sour to them. Take me for instance, if you had me put AC II in today, I would probably laugh at it, and put Syndicate right back in.

 

I have only played Black Flag and Syndicate, I am enjoying Syndicate very much so and there rich map which is very detailed to say the least. example: the moss even looks cool on the side of buildings, things like that is what stands out to me.

[Vault111]

In the way that it still looks like a PS3 game being played on high PC settings, not even ultra. They have just given Assassins Creed a lick of paint and a bit of a polish, it's still the same as it was on PS3.

 

The fact that the animations are still the same, AI's just as terrible and about a hundred other reasons, make me consider this not next gen.

 

EDIT: I've said this before on this forum, but if you showed me Syndicate in 2007/2008 when i first started playing the first Assassins Creed on the PS3, and you tried telling me Syndicate was how Assassins Creed would look like 8 years later on PS4, i'd laugh in your face and call you a liar.

 

You don't even see behavior in the city, you don't actually get to see groups of kids, running around pick pocketing, you don't see families behaving as you would, you don't see busy market places where people are buying goods, etc. In fact no one on the game behaves as they would, they all pretty much still robotically walk around aimlessly with awkward animations, moving without meaning just to fill in the pedestrian numbers. They either walk around aimlessly or stand there aimlessly. If this is what you consider next gen then have a word with yourself.

 

Do tree's even blow in the wind on Syndicate, can't remember but i don't think they do. Is there even wind on Syndicate?

Since when did tree's blowing in the wind become an indication of next gen games? Lol Between you saying it about Syndicate and people saying it about gta it's ridiculous. And as for the criticism's about the npc's, I've yet to play a game on the PS4 were the map felt more alive and that's because of the variety of different actions I've seen various npc's doing around the map of London. From children playing football, to couple's dancing together. I even seen random couples start to kiss as I walked past them. None of this would of been possible on last gen consoles.

[Cosmic Gypsy]

Weather you like it or not tree's blowing in the wind, as well as about 1,000 other details alll play a part in making a game look next gen, don't get me wrong i've seen kids playing in the street but those children don't all meet up, travel to that spot and start playing, they just appear there for you to see once you walk round that corner in a vain attempt at making the city feel alive, when really it's just another static display.

EDIT: The kids you see playing and the people you see kissing aren't next gen, that could have easily been achieved on the previous Assassins Creed games.

Edited November 4, 2015 by Cosmic Gypsy

[Vault111]

It's not that these npc actions are happening separately, a lot of it is going on at the same time at the same part of the map and I've never seen a game do that as well as Syndicate last gen or this gen so far.

[esmittystud101]

Edit:

 

I think most of us can agree that the NPC's actions in this game is on par with the other open world titles and even better than some. Syndicate could not run on a PS3 or Xbox 360 and the developers knew it so they saved us all the trouble and made if for just PS4, X1, and PC. I own AC:Black Flag, Bloodborne, GTAV, MGSV:PP, Sunset Overdrive, The Witcher 3, Tomb Raider: DE, Dying Light, Far Cry 4, Dead Rising 3, Infamous SS and First Light, MGS: Ground Zeroes, Watch Dogs, Thief. Some NPC actions stand out to me and others don't of course. To say that Syndicate is "last gen" because there are no tree's blowing in the wind, or the NPC interactions are not what you thought they were going to be is just not sounding right to us, that's all. I think V.R. is what you should be looking forward to then instead of games for PS4 or X1 then. My biggest question is, if Syndicate in not "Next Gen", then what is? Cause with the list of games I have, none are "way ahead" of Syndicate in terms of NPC interactions and graphics. Syndicate is a very detailed map, even Digital Foundry praised them for this.

 

Ubisoft spent three years making this game and there doing the best they can with the hardware they got stuck with in these consoles. It's tough to run an open world game at 1080p/900p and not have to take hits somewhere else with this hardware. Thats why you might catch things in some of these games that just doesen't seem right. Take MGSV:PP for example, 1080p 60 FPS on PS4, but do you know how they accomplished this? They stripped there map out to ware it is as bland and boring as you can get. Hardly any life in that desert. I like the game, don't get me wrong, but the map is bare and we all know why. They wanted 1080p 60 FPS smooth output. What's even worse is the fact that developers are talking 1440p and 2160p 4K type stuff, and I'm like "You can't even run a game now at 1080p/900p but 1440p/2160p is in the works? This scares me to say the least. I'm fine with just 1080p/900p. The games look great.

 

On another note though, I love the fact that every activity you complete goes torward getting rewards like weapons, items, upgrades. They have set this up quite nicley. Even the quick activities, races, Hijacks, goes torward something. I just finished City of London section last night, I still need all collectables in the area, but I've already done, Whitchapel, Thames, Southwark,Lambeth completly so I don't think I'm doing too bad. The music boxes are the hardest items to find though. Thames was probably the easiest area to find them but the other sections were quite difficult. There's nothing like scaling an area trying to listen for music. Pretty much I would start on foot, spend probably 15-20 minutes on the ground looking, then another 15-20 minutes on the rooftops. I like stuff like this though. Things like that drive me to want to play the game more. I love a good challenge.

Edited November 5, 2015 by esmittystud101

[Cosmic Gypsy]

Beating the dead horse again, played this earlier, walked through a market and saw people handing each other nothing, while saying nothing to each other, that's as far as the market realism goes. Shoddy animations to create the illusion of actual interaction, when really it's literally just 2 people lifting their arms.

Don't get me wrong i do like the game, but that's not next gen.

[Voggs]

So, I started playing this a while ago and I've enjoyed the f*ck out of it, it's the first AC game I ever play, still not interested at all in the previous ones though. Story and characters are good so far, the world is really really buggy but still nice to see, lots of stuff to do. The combat is really cool too, brutal and awesome, I like how the freerunning system works, rope launcher is super useful.

 

I think they come up with pretty good ideas for their open world but the way they code them isn't the best, everywhere I look there's a glitch happening, floating items, weird animations, people glitchting through objects, etc... but, everything else makes it worth it.

 

Also, the twins are really funny.

Edited November 7, 2015 by Voggs

[Gforce]

Absolutely loving this game, I don't care about the story, I can finally play a game set in my home city, the environment is pretty accurate, enjoying jumping around on top of parliament like spiderman and thanks to the horse and carts it's a lot of fun,

Grand Theft Horse and Cart London, in glorious 4K, oh yeah

[Mr. Scratch]

Weather you like it or not tree's blowing in the wind, as well as about 1,000 other details alll play a part in making a game look next gen, don't get me wrong i've seen kids playing in the street but those children don't all meet up, travel to that spot and start playing, they just appear there for you to see once you walk round that corner in a vain attempt at making the city feel alive, when really it's just another static display.

 

EDIT: The kids you see playing and the people you see kissing aren't next gen, that could have easily been achieved on the previous Assassins Creed games.

 

If you're thinking about comparing it to Unity then don't, it took place during a revolution so naturally there are more people on the streets and unlike Syndicate it doesn't have a dynamic time and weather cycle.

[dudclub55]

How fun are the game's side quests? And is the stealth good?

[HaythamKenway]

How fun are the game's side quests? And is the stealth good?

Stealth is pretty solid. Don't expect anything particulary deep or challenging, like you would from dedicated stealth games, but among open world action games, it's definitely one of the better. It's fast, smooth and, most importantly, reliable. I've only rarely been detected because of janky controls and movement, like in previous games. Ubi Quebec totally threw the social stealth out of the window though, there is little reason to hide in crowds or even use hiding spots like benches and hay carts. I spent 99% of the game just hiding behind corners and sneaking around in stealth mode.

 

Side quests are what you'd expect from AC, lots of them and they all share the same framework. They are all open ended, so you're free to tackle them any way you like. There are assassinations, bounty hunts (which are basically assassinations, but you need to capture the target alive and escort him out of the restricted area - quite fun and require some planning/cleaning up before the action), saving children from factories and, of course, "outpost/Borgia Tower" liberations. Then there are things like boat and train raids, where you have to sneak onboard and steal some chests, carriage hijackings, fight clubs, races and so on. Overall, much better offering than Unity, but your enjoyment still depends on whether you are tired of how Ubisoft does these things. Look at any of their games in past five years - AC IV, Watch Dogs, Far Cry - it's still the same formula in Syndicate. Bigger side missions are done better than in Unity. Instead of following random famous characters scattered all over the map, they are more similar to AC IV's Templar side stories. There are several historical figures, each with their own dedicated mission strand and most of them are on par with story missions (especially "mystery hunting" missions with Dickens are great).