Assassin's Creed: Syndicate

[Osho]

The first technical impressions of PS4 version are pretty shocking.

Anyone interested can read here being discussed on NeoGaf, bit please mind you before you read, its filled with massive spoilers!

 

I didn't expect this to suck so much.

Sigh.. I pass on another Ass game. I am waiting since Ass 2 to enjoy something unique, a better Ass game with the right improvements, but its becoming more, and more of a casual turd.

[Jvaz615]

For all we know, the day 1 patches might fix these "issues" that some randon internet guy claims to have experienced. I'll make my own decision Friday

[Creed Bratton]

I didn't expect this to suck so much.

Really? Even after Unity? Or after that gameplay footage that looked like pre-alpha shown just a few months before release? Why would Ubisoft bother releasing a finished product when millions of sheep have already pre-ordered the game despite what happened with Unity? Better to spend all that money on marketing and making DLC than actual development of the core game. These games have become the blight of gaming industry practically overnight.

 

 

Edited October 22, 2015 by The Yokel

[BUT THE BENZ]

I didn't expect this to suck so much.

 

it's Ubisoft dude, and since the 3rd AC it has gone downhill for good.

[Osho]

True. I actually didn't play Unity at all. But don't know why, Syndicate got my interest piqued.

Lets see how the reviews about the game actually are.

[Dbzk1999]

The first technical impressions of PS4 version are pretty shocking.

Anyone interested can read here being discussed on NeoGaf, bit please mind you before you read, its filled with massive spoilers!

 

I didn't expect this to suck so much.

Sigh.. I pass on another Ass game. I am waiting since Ass 2 to enjoy something unique, a better Ass game with the right improvements, but its becoming more, and more of a casual turd.

I suggest waiting until the two day 1 patches come out.

[HaythamKenway]

True. I actually didn't play Unity at all. But don't know why, Syndicate got my interest piqued.

Lets see how the reviews about the game actually are.

We'll see tomorrow. If Ubi Quebec stayed faithful to Unity's mission design, I should have a lot of fun with it. I like London as a city, so that's also something I'm looking forward to. I don't expect GoTY. I don't expect anything on the level or AC II or IV. I don't expect anything more than an enjoyable game and with that, Ubi really let me down only once with III, so I think I'll be fine. If stars align, this will be a fun iterative sequel like Revelations or Rogue. If they don't, well, life goes on.

 

Assassin's Creed and Ubisoft in general are the video game equivalent of the MCU movie factory. There's not much more to add to that, either you like what they churn out, or don't.

Edited October 22, 2015 by HaythamKenway

[Osho]

Yup. The reviews have begun...

So far,

Polygon - 8.5

IGN - 8.2

Gamespot - 9

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Edited October 22, 2015 by Osho

[esmittystud101]

I would just take a guess and say some issues will be addressed in the two day one patches. I would like to see those patch notes though. Stabability issue fixes are always welcome in Assassin's Creed. It was just funny guys were in an up roar on that forum even before they get to install the two day one patches. LOL. It's just funny though that other games like The Witcher 3, which I enjoy, doesn't run right at launch, that still doesn't run quite right, 17 GB plus patch it is up to now and more down the road, takes zero flack and everyone is happy and content and only praises the game. Just think if Syndicate took on a 17 GB plus patch, what would players reactions be? I think Unity was up to 6.7 GB on there last patch.

 

I guess with games like Unity it would kinda spoil players feelings about upcomming releases. Ubisoft only has themselves to blame for this pre patch flack from the masses.

 

Edit: patch notes

 

http://www.player-one.eu/gaming/news/assassins-creed-syndicate-patch-notes/

Edited October 22, 2015 by esmittystud101

[Creed Bratton]

Here's the thing. When a game like AC:Unity is so broken that it's basically unplayable, the review score is supposed to be in the red. Not in the green or in the yellow. Red. It shouldn't be higher than 4/10 or 2/5. The game has has to at least be playable to get a decent rating. It wasn't. So to understand just how inflated these reviews are, you need only to compare them to last year's reviews of Unity and you'll see just how trustworthy they are. Reviewers who didn't have the guts to rip Ubisoft a new asshole for butchering Unity should never review another Ubisoft game.

[Grichka Bogdanoff]

 

 

 

[Creed Bratton]

These people seem to be completely out of touch with why people play AC games. "Oppression has to end"? Who gives a f*ck? No one is going to play Syndicate because they think this amazing theme of the game is to fight oppression in London. In AC Unity the message was "Unite". Against what and what for? God it's so cringeworthy. In AC III it was "Rise". Again, who the f*ck cares? In Black Flag the message was "fight the crown" or some bullsh*t like that. Jesus Christ. That wasn't the theme of the game at all. People play these games to see historic events take place from a fictional perspective. What's the point in having these cringeworthy messages that miss the point of the game entirely? In the end it's about the never-ending war between Assassins and Templars and about some ancient civilization and their artifacts. The historical settings aren't the central theme so much as they're just a backdrop for this Assassin vs Templar war. That's it. Stop with those cringeworthy motivational messages already.

[Nick1020]

I was actually thinking of getting Syndicate but after reading some early hands on reviews I think I'll end up waiting for a price drop. AC lost its touch after AC4.

[Hit by Lightning]

Can't understand how someone can bash a game before its release to the public? I actually enjoyed Unity. Sure, Ubisfot screwed at the beginning, but does that mean Syndicate would be same?

This pessimism is actually pathetic.

Any company (whether its Ubisfot, EA or R*) who continues to release AAA titles deserves some respect in my book and constructive criticisms, instead of this attitude.

 

In case you haven't already noticed, the cancer aka (mobile gaming) is taking over the whole industry. In a few years, I think all PC/Console traditional games will cease to exist.

All that would be left for these grumpy fools to bitch and moan about is the “in-app purchase” crap.

 

As with Syndicate, I'll wait till tomorrow before I can judge.

I don't trust these reviews and I don't base my judgement on some random guys on the internet.

[Sunrise Driver]

There's still a present day stuff? Why on Earth?

[esmittystud101]

Can't understand how someone can bash a game before its release to the public? I actually enjoyed Unity. Sure, Ubisfot screwed at the beginning, but does that mean Syndicate would be same?

This pessimism is actually pathetic.

Any company (whether its Ubisfot, EA or R*) who continues to release AAA titles deserves some respect in my book and constructive criticisms, instead of this attitude.

 

In case you haven't already noticed, the cancer aka (mobile gaming) is taking over the whole industry. In a few years, I think all PC/Console traditional games will cease to exist.

All that would be left for these grumpy fools to bitch and moan about is the “in-app purchase” crap.

 

As with Syndicate, I'll wait till tomorrow before I can judge.

I don't trust these reviews and I don't base my judgement on some random guys on the internet.

I was thinking the same thing. This isn't always the case but I think what it really boils down to is when someone in contemplating on weather they should buy a game or not and they are leaning to "No" as the answer already, it helps them ease there mind if they bash the game, especially posting it where others can see and possibly agreeing with them. Now they feel better about not buying the game and its justified to them, others are agreeing with them. There mind is a little more at ease. If that makes any sense. I also have to agree about the mobile game industry destroying it for the rest of us. It is a cancer. I'm sorry, I can't even play a PS4 game on my PS Vita. The controls are always weird, smartphones/tablets are even worse.

 

Anyways, players like you are hard to find these days, I wish there were more like you. You knew Unity was a train wreck at the beginning, but you stuck around, they patched it. You found out after all it was a decent/good game. Your happy about it. You end up liking the game. The following installment is about to release and your giving it a chance with an open mind. Cheers to you mate.

[Jvaz615]

Can't understand how someone can bash a game before its release to the public? I actually enjoyed Unity. Sure, Ubisfot screwed at the beginning, but does that mean Syndicate would be same?

This pessimism is actually pathetic.

Any company (whether its Ubisfot, EA or R*) who continues to release AAA titles deserves some respect in my book and constructive criticisms, instead of this attitude.

 

In case you haven't already noticed, the cancer aka (mobile gaming) is taking over the whole industry. In a few years, I think all PC/Console traditional games will cease to exist.

All that would be left for these grumpy fools to bitch and moan about is the in-app purchase crap.

 

As with Syndicate, I'll wait till tomorrow before I can judge.

I don't trust these reviews and I don't base my judgement on some random guys on the internet.

Totally agreed.

[Dbzk1999]

These people seem to be completely out of touch with why people play AC games. "Oppression has to end"? Who gives a f*ck? No one is going to play Syndicate because they think this amazing theme of the game is to fight oppression in London. In AC Unity the message was "Unite". Against what and what for? God it's so cringeworthy. In AC III it was "Rise". Again, who the f*ck cares? In Black Flag the message was "fight the crown" or some bullsh*t like that. Jesus Christ. That wasn't the theme of the game at all. People play these games to see historic events take place from a fictional perspective. What's the point in having these cringeworthy messages that miss the point of the game entirely? In the end it's about the never-ending war between Assassins and Templars and about some ancient civilization and their artifacts. The historical settings aren't the central theme so much as they're just a backdrop for this Assassin vs Templar war. That's it. Stop with those cringeworthy motivational messages already.

I don't get your point, you're essentially saying that AC can't have a theme besides "assassins and Templars" when said themes tie into the war. Even unity (as bad as it was) still had its theme tie into the assassin-Templar war

[Creed Bratton]

I don't get your point, you're essentially saying that AC can't have a theme besides "assassins and Templars" when said themes tie into the war. Even unity (as bad as it was) still had its theme tie into the assassin-Templar war

It's not that they can't have any other theme, it's that they really don't. Yet Ubisoft insists on advertising the game as if the central point is some bullsh*t that it isn't even the point of the game almost as if they're embarrassed to advertise their games as what they really are. It would be like advertising The Witcher 3 as a game about ending the war between Nilfgaard and Northern kingdoms. The war is there but that's not what the game is about. It's just a backdrop for the real story.

Edited October 22, 2015 by The Yokel

[Dbzk1999]

 

I don't get your point, you're essentially saying that AC can't have a theme besides "assassins and Templars" when said themes tie into the war. Even unity (as bad as it was) still had its theme tie into the assassin-Templar war

It's not that they can't have any other theme, it's that they really don't. Yet Ubisoft insists on advertising the game as if the central point is some bullsh*t that it isn't even the point of the game almost as if they're embarrassed to advertise their games as what they really are. It would be like advertising The Witcher 3 as a game about ending the war between Nilfgaard and Northern kingdoms. The war is there but that's not what the game is about. It's just a backdrop for the real story.But what they advertise it to be about basically ties into the war

Sorry if I'm missing the point, I'm not sure whether or not I know what you mean. So, if you can, can you let me know if I am or not?

[Creed Bratton]

But what they advertise it to be about basically ties into the war

Sorry if I'm missing the point, I'm not sure whether or not I know what you mean. So, if you can, can you let me know if I am or not?

It doesn't matter. No one plays The Witcher 3 because of the war with Nilfgaard or Redania so CDPR doesn't advertise that aspect of the game. It just happens to be one of several important things things going on in the background of the story. Same thing with Assassin's Creed.

 

No one gives a f*ck about defying the crown in Black Flag. Where did that even come from? Then there's AC 3. It wasn't a game ABOUT the American revolution. It was a game about Assassins and Templars and about finding an artifact to prevent another end of the world that just so happens to take place during the American revolution. The actual revolution was mostly irrelevant. Yet Ubisoft advertised the game like that was the central theme. It's nonsensical and absolutely 100% cringeworthy when in the middle of the trailer they had this huge "RISE" word pop up like it somehow makes any goddamn sense.

 

And once again they're doing the same thing. No one gives a f*ck about fighting the oppression and taking London back. Back from who? It's a new game. It's not like somebody took London from us in a previous game and now we have to take it back. It's not what the game is about. Assassin's Creed games are games about personal stories of characters involved and about the larger plot that takes place in the present. They're NEVER about the historical setting and its politics. That's ALWAYS just the backdrop and it should be treated as such. The stupidity of it is pissing me off more than all the glitches in all the AC games combined. It is honestly the thing that puts me off these games the most.

[HaythamKenway]

Well, I think many ACs managed to sensibly tie their historical context to the overarching Assassin-Templar narrative. Not all of them, sure (hello Unity, hello Rogue). AC IV, Revelations or AC 1 did a good job with making the time and place support the their respective themes. And I don't know how AC III, for example, wasn't about the War of Independence, when the whole plot was about Assassins and Templars clashing over different ideas about how it should be led, the whole Washington-Lee thing, Connor's idealism versus the Patriots' hypocrisy and opportunism, Connor's native heritage vs. loyalty to the Patriots and so on. Hell, one of the most common criticism aimed at the game was that it was too much about politics of the era and not enough about Assassins stabbing evil Templars - which is why the French Revolution ended up being just a fancy backdrop in Unity.

[Hit by Lightning]

 

I don't get your point, you're essentially saying that AC can't have a theme besides "assassins and Templars" when said themes tie into the war. Even unity (as bad as it was) still had its theme tie into the assassin-Templar war

It's not that they can't have any other theme, it's that they really don't. Yet Ubisoft insists on advertising the game as if the central point is some bullsh*t that it isn't even the point of the game almost as if they're embarrassed to advertise their games as what they really are. It would be like advertising The Witcher 3 as a game about ending the war between Nilfgaard and Northern kingdoms. The war is there but that's not what the game is about. It's just a backdrop for the real story.

 

Are you serious?

“Oh no, they deceived us, the story in the trailers are not the one in the game. The horror” .

 

My advice is to ignore this game for now. It's no good for you.

[Creed Bratton]

 

 

I don't get your point, you're essentially saying that AC can't have a theme besides "assassins and Templars" when said themes tie into the war. Even unity (as bad as it was) still had its theme tie into the assassin-Templar war

It's not that they can't have any other theme, it's that they really don't. Yet Ubisoft insists on advertising the game as if the central point is some bullsh*t that it isn't even the point of the game almost as if they're embarrassed to advertise their games as what they really are. It would be like advertising The Witcher 3 as a game about ending the war between Nilfgaard and Northern kingdoms. The war is there but that's not what the game is about. It's just a backdrop for the real story.

 

Are you serious?

“Oh no, they deceived us, the story in the trailers are not the one in the game. The horror” .

 

My advice is to ignore this game for now. It's no good for you.

I don't think they're trying to deceive anyone. I genuinely think that whoever is in charge of marketing is an idiot. Everything about it is idiotic. Their sh*tty trailers, their sh*tty real life parkour thingy, the stupid idea to actually get a real pirate ship for Black Flag. And how could I forget Arno's "iconic" pocket watch pre-order. Iconic. Nevermind that Arno was a new character for a game that wasn't even out yet. These people are imbeciles to the nth degree. They're like an insecure, clingy girlfriend desperate for attention.

Edited October 23, 2015 by The Yokel

[Sunrise Driver]

their sh*tty real life parkour thingy

It's not s**tty. It's cool.

 

And stop you all abouth this BS arguments. We want to hear about game itself, not opinions on trailers and advertisment.

[HaythamKenway]

Played my first two hours or so of the game. I just got to London and started liberating Whitechapel. From the little I've played I can already say that I really like what they've done with the music. The soundtrack isn't particulary catchy, like Kyd's or Balfe's works, but it fits the game perfectly and it sounds really unique. Since Kyd left AC sounded more and more generic, but this score finally stands out again. The ambient music is also used in an interesting way, where it doesn't play all the time but just peeks its head out every once in a while. That's great, since both too much music, like in early ACs, or too little, like in Unity, is just monotonous.

 

I also enjoy how the game practically barfs AC lore at you with the Kenway family, Reginald Birch, Otso Berg and Alvaro Gramatica all showing up/getting mentioned within first hour of play. I hope they'll keep it up. And yeah, Animus Helix fragments matter again, since they unlock present day data, so hooray, collectible hunting with a purpose other than filling out meaningless checklists.

[Creed Bratton]

Brian Tyler did a great job with Black Flag soundtrack. It fit the setting perfectly. One of my alltime favorite musical scores in a video game is one of the ship boarding tracks.

 

Found it. It's this one:

 

[esmittystud101]

Is there no companion app for AC: Syndicate?

 

Edit: guess not

 

http://www.polygon.com/2015/5/28/8677587/assassins-creed-syndicate-companion-app-wont-have-no

 

Black Flag has a great companion app. Maybe the best I've ever seen for a game.

Edited October 23, 2015 by esmittystud101

[Jvaz615]

The wait for the UPS guy is killing me. I want my game

[Vault111]

I'm enjoying it so far, the visuals and soundtrack is really stunning at times. They've done a great job recreating the Victorian Era. Although I'm not that familiar with AC games so are you supposed to go straight from sequence to sequence or is it better to unlock different parts of the map or do side activities first?