Serious question, what is the appeal of assisted aim in multiplayer?

[Sir Michael]

The AI makes anybody realize that this game wasn't optimized for free aim at all. That's the only situation where assisted aim should be allowed, especially when I get gibbed by enemies hiding in bushes and shooting from cover...

 

Playing first-person mode with full lock-on aiming is stupid, although I'll play FA Assisted because I can't play shooters without that sticky aim on consoles.

[Kachii]

Guess we reached a point of the same thread being made everyday (auto aim complaining and guys playing as girls)

 

To answer your question. I don't like aiming with joysticks I prefer keyboard and mouse which is what I prefer to play when I free aim

[ExtremeTorque]

I play Assisted most of the times because

1)I barely ever play deathmatches

2)Assisted has more people for races,missions and free roam

3)Save money and ammo

4)And because people in free aim spam explosives and miniguns,use cars in battles and strafe shoot with holding R2 halfway instead of actually aiming and shoot

The combat system isnt made for competitive gameplay in my opinion.

[A J]

May give free aim a go, let's hope players don't blame me if I die during missions, survivals, team deathmatch.

 

Or in the very unlikely event I end up on my own if they die in a mission and take my my time trying to survive.

 

Need to practice somehow.

 

Fellow Welshie.

 

Add me on PSN if you like ; ajbns87

 

I am by no means an expert in free aim, but I can give you some tips to help you out.

Guess we reached a point of the same thread being made everyday (auto aim complaining and guys playing as girls)

 

To answer your question. I don't like aiming with joysticks I prefer keyboard and mouse which is what I prefer to play when I free aim

 

Maybe Sony should provide console users with a mouse and keyboard, I am sure GTA isn't the only third person game that is difficult for so many to shoot without aimbot mechanics assisting.

Edited December 3, 2014 by A J

[Biff73]

I would only want free aim for gta v pc version as only a decent gaming mouse & keyboard will make free aim fast & deadly,as for consoles,auto aim is more ideal

[Crimson Flam3s]

One thing I don't understand is that everyone says the most missions are impossible without AA.

 

I have completed many missions in hard difficulty in FA and it's not impossible, even by yourself. The only mission impossible to do by yourself is death from above, AA or FA it doesn't matter, unless a tank is used.

 

Yeah the AI has extraordinary aiming skills but if you take cover and play it smartly it can be easily done in FA.

 

If anything the AA in this game should work only on AI with an option to turn it on and off.

4)And because people in free aim spam explosives and miniguns,use cars in battles and strafe shoot with holding R2 halfway instead of actually aiming and shoot

 

Wait so people in AA dont use miniguns, and explosives?? Sounds like heaven.

 

Also I didn't know that doing drive bys and straffing was banned....

 

Not really hating ppl because they play AA, as a former AA'er myself, but what I quoted is complete nonsense.

Edited December 3, 2014 by Crimson Flam3s

[ExtremeTorque]

 

4)And because people in free aim spam explosives and miniguns,use cars in battles and strafe shoot with holding R2 halfway instead of actually aiming and shoot

 

Wait so people in AA dont use miniguns, and explosives?? Sounds like heaven.

 

Also I didn't know that doing drive bys and straffing was banned....

 

Not really hating ppl because they play AA, as a former AA'er myself, but what I quoted is complete nonsense.

They use them in AA too but they arent as effective.You cant just pull out a RPG in the middle of a gunfight in AA but in FA you can and I dont like that.

I never said drive bys and strafe shooting were banned,what are you talking about?I just said I dont like doing them.

I find it ridiculous that strafe shooting in free AIM is much more effective than actually AIMING.

[A J]

 

 

4)And because people in free aim spam explosives and miniguns,use cars in battles and strafe shoot with holding R2 halfway instead of actually aiming and shoot

Wait so people in AA dont use miniguns, and explosives?? Sounds like heaven.

 

Also I didn't know that doing drive bys and straffing was banned....

 

Not really hating ppl because they play AA, as a former AA'er myself, but what I quoted is complete nonsense.

They use them in AA too but they arent as effective.You cant just pull out a RPG in the middle of a gunfight in AA but in FA you can and I dont like that.

I never said drive bys and strafe shooting were banned,what are you talking about?I just said I dont like doing them.

I find it ridiculous that strafe shooting in free AIM is much more effective than actually AIMING.

 

 

You know when someone pulls out a minigun or an RPG in a free aim TDM, the next round they usuallly get promptly kicked or asked not to.

 

A few times, whilst a rocket has been shot at me, I've also managed to land a headshot too,so yes it is over powered and as host I wish there was a little more you can do to prevent it (eg sticky bombs in captures are god damn awful, particularly that one involving buses).

 

Strafing, rolling, movement and position is key in free aim to prevent the other players landing headshots, it's bit like using cover in assisted aim, both modes have their play styles, I just think it's a pity that one makes vehicles pointless and takes away any challenge of aiming, and the possibility of using short range weapons against longer range ones.

 

But each to their own. I appreciate you coming here to post your thinking

Too bad we're so divided by this issue in the game. Say all you like about sh*tty COD, but atleast you can find full lobbies in it very quickly.

[fish61324]

Ok I get that some might prefer to play assisted aim against the sharpshooting AI in missions and survivals, but I will never understand why players prefer it to freeaim when playing against other players. GTA to me is all about the cars and shooting, but the two cannot mix in assisted aim, vehicles are a death trap, so you either walk around the map and take cover behind objects or you end up getting easily killed if any players are that way inclined.

 

I know free aim is difficult, but that's what makes it appealing and rewarding to me, I like the challenge of aiming myself, why don't others?

 

Please I really don't want any spam or bigoted responses, saying that I'm an elitist showing off. I genuinely want to know why players want the game to aim for them!?

I have done both and it is A LOT easier to kill someone with assisted aim.... makes sense to have assitsed aim.....

[Chinsei]

for me.. I just like being able to target things quickly o.o but over all i don't consider it a big deal. to me as long as you're having fun however you wish to play. its okay. why people insisting on complaining about things they don't have to use. an that potentially dont effect them is beyond me though.

 

Free Aim is better for precision shots. an for range but , assisted aim is better for when you just wanna shoot someone quickly >.<

Edited December 3, 2014 by Chinsei

[CarcerCityMadMan]

Its gta it has had lock on since gta 3,get over it COD fanboys

[Realz]

Deal with it we like assisted aim better because this isn't call of duty and the aim is too stiff on gta, this is the same thing in call of duty hard core vs core.. hardcore players brag about that the real gamers are in hardcore LMFAO, yeah okay.

[Ziggy_Ivanhoe]

 

I find it ridiculous that strafe shooting in free AIM is much more effective than actually AIMING.

 

 

You mean when someone fires from the hip instead of holding L2/Lt ? I just thought that was good old fashioned hip firing and it should have less accuracy. It's spray and pray move usually but personally I haven't seen this very often back when I was playing in FA. You would think the accuracy would be much lower that way though.

[A J]

 

 

I find it ridiculous that strafe shooting in free AIM is much more effective than actually AIMING.

 

 

You mean when someone fires from the hip instead of holding L2/Lt ? I just thought that was good old fashioned hip firing and it should have less accuracy. It's spray and pray move usually but personally I haven't seen this very often back when I was playing in FA. You would think the accuracy would be much lower that way though.

 

 

Depends on range. From a far not aiming and strafing would be stupid, up close shooting from the hip is quicker and arguably more effective, different players play different ways

 

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Some one said 'get over it COD fanboys'

Yeah GTA has always had automated aiming system, but right now this topic is solely focused on PvP combat, not missions, not single player and definitely not past GTA's which never had official multiplayer.

 

It's quite clear you didn't get the memo I forwarded in the first post, this topic is purely for discussion, not getting one over each other, I hope it resolves this constant conflict in this sub-section, if every one respects eachother and listens to them, already I am feeling as if I understand why some players chose to play with assisted.

[Maxxi]

I use assisted aim because I'm not a cold-blooded competitive try hard murderer running amok with no shirt and a monkey mask. So I only need it to kill NPCs with. And even then I typically go to my RPG or Minigun anyways for what killing I have to do.

[A J]

I use assisted aim because I'm not a cold-blooded competitive try hard murderer running amok with no shirt and a monkey mask. So I only need it to kill NPCs with. And even then I typically go to my RPG or Minigun anyways for what killing I have to do.

So do you think all players that use freeaim are competitive tryhards?

[_PANiC_]

simply put, this game has a sh*tty free aim mode, it's a step back from the FA in MP3, so it's useless to play with it, it just puts you in a disadvantage, so AA is pretty much the way to go if you don't want to get slaughtered and want to fight back

 

Wait...what..that makes no sense man

 

If you are in Free Aim, so is everyone else. So how can you be in at a disadvantage?,...

[ugotsmoked]

 

 

simply put, this game has a sh*tty free aim mode, it's a step back from the FA in MP3, so it's useless to play with it, it just puts you in a disadvantage, so AA is pretty much the way to go if you don't want to get slaughtered and want to fight back

Wait...what..that makes no sense man

 

If you are in Free Aim, so is everyone else. So how can you be in at a disadvantage?,...

Most of them use modded controllers or a mouse.

[ten-a-penny]

I'm not sure if its mentioned here or not, but there ARE FPSs with auto aim. First one to come to mind is the Doom series, at least the classics.

You cannot see up or down though, which is why an Auto Aim feature is needed. How could you should somebody that is above you if you can only turn left and right?

[Maxxi]

 

I use assisted aim because I'm not a cold-blooded competitive try hard murderer running amok with no shirt and a monkey mask. So I only need it to kill NPCs with. And even then I typically go to my RPG or Minigun anyways for what killing I have to do.

So do you think all players that use freeaim are competitive tryhards?

Just about every person I've met who uses free aim tries to say they're the "best 420 yolomcswag blaze it shooter" out there and that I'm a pussy for using assisted aim, so yes, yes I do.

[Crisez]

 

I don't like challenge. I play to relax.

You're right, leave the professionals play together.

 

I've stopped reading this thread right here.

[ugotsmoked]

 

 

I use assisted aim because I'm not a cold-blooded competitive try hard murderer running amok with no shirt and a monkey mask. So I only need it to kill NPCs with. And even then I typically go to my RPG or Minigun anyways for what killing I have to do.

So do you think all players that use freeaim are competitive tryhards?

Just about every person I've met who uses free aim tries to say they're the "best 420 yolomcswag blaze it shooter" out there and that I'm a pussy for using assisted aim, so yes, yes I do.

100% this. It's not even close population wise either.

[_PANiC_]

Lol, Some completely nonsense statements and made up statistics. Sounds more like people just want an excuse not to try a little harder.

 

I mean, if you just prefer the ease and simplicity of the game aiming for you so you can just enjoy shooting sh*t up quick and easy then fine, but don't make sh*t up as an excuse not to be a free aim player.

Edited December 4, 2014 by PANiC ATTACK3R

[sportbikepilot369]

I contracted a virus a few years back that attacked my optic nerves. It left me with major vision loss in the form of blind spots. I have no central vision in my left eye and only about 50% in my right. This means fine details are hard to see, and target acquisition is difficult at best. There is absolutely no way I could play free aim.

[ugotsmoked]

I contracted a virus a few years back that attacked my optic nerves. It left me with major vision loss in the form of blind spots. I have no central vision in my left eye and only about 50% in my right. This means fine details are hard to see, and target acquisition is difficult at best. There is absolutely no way I could play free aim.

INB4 a 13 yr old free aimer tells you they would pwn you with their el33t skillz.

 

Let everyone play the way they want.

 

TO EACH THEIR OWN.

[PlamenVT]

I can understand guys who play Free-roam / Missions in Assisted Aim.

 

But not for Deathmatches/LTS/Capture or even some types of GTA Races. Those game modes are a lot more fun in Free-aim. And that's the reason a lot of people don't enjoy them, they run them in AA and then complain that they're not interesting, of course they're not. I am falling asleep at any AA deathmatch, although I have 4 K/D in those It still feel boring as hell. On multiple occasions, even getting killed a lot on Free-aim was still did not changed the fact that it was hella of a experience. Check out this video for example (and no, it's not for promotion, I want to illustrate a point here, I would never experience such awesome moments with assisted aim!)

 

http://youtu.be/m4gP0epNSI8

 

http://youtu.be/otuY0ofW_bw

Edited December 4, 2014 by PlamenVT

[Nick1020]

Free Aim is only good on deathmatches and LTS and takes longer to finish. Free Aim on missons are pointless since A.I is dumb hard.

[A J]

I can understand guys who play Free-roam / Missions in Assisted Aim.

 

But not for Deathmatches/LTS/Capture or even some types of GTA Races. Those game modes are a lot more fun in Free-aim. And that's the reason a lot of people don't enjoy them, they run them in AA and then complain that they're not interesting, of course they're not. I am falling asleep at any AA deathmatch

This is precisely why I made this topic, I want to understand how any gamer casual or competitive could enjoy the dynamics of assisted aim in PvP.

 

Ugotsmoked, you need to stop posting sh*t in here.

 

I understand players with a disability using assisted aim. I had a friend once who was a soldier that had lost half of his fingers on one hand, so couldn't shoot at all unless it was automatic aim. That's perfectly understandable.

[_PANiC_]

I can understand guys who play Free-roam / Missions in Assisted Aim.

 

But not for Deathmatches/LTS/Capture or even some types of GTA Races. Those game modes are a lot more fun in Free-aim. And that's the reason a lot of people don't enjoy them, they run them in AA and then complain that they're not interesting, of course they're not. I am falling asleep at any AA deathmatch, although I have 4 K/D in those It still feel boring as hell. On multiple occasions, even getting killed a lot on Free-aim was still did not changed the fact that it was hella of a experience. Check out this video for example (and no, it's not for promotion, I want to illustrate a point here, I would never experience such awesome moments with assisted aim!)

 

SHAMELESS PROMOTION!! SHAMELESS!

[sportbikepilot369]

I do have to agree with the AA is boring sentiment. This is probably why I avoid DM jobs like the plague.