timberwolf1 0 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Just changed it now and it's still not red. Link to post Share on other sites
Black Handkerchief 0 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 why the hell that rockstar removed some great ps2 features from pc ??? not only vice city, but it also happen to gta 3 and san andreas Link to post Share on other sites
ChubbyB0b 11 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 On 12/29/2020 at 4:39 PM, timberwolf1 said: Just changed it now and it's still not red. Try this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5gQvkGAB9gmTHZleXVWdWlpME0/view 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ChubbyB0b 11 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 On 12/29/2020 at 8:48 PM, Black Handkerchief said: why the hell that rockstar removed some great ps2 features from pc ??? not only vice city, but it also happen to gta 3 and san andreas They removed a lot of things and introduced a lot of bugs and textureless buildings/cars, game stuff in general. GTA III is kinda okay, but Vice City and San Andreas are bad ports. A lot of things from PS2 versions are missing and to this day haven't been reintroduced/patched. Considering it's 2021 it's unlikely it's going to be fixed. Thankfully mods exist to fix most of the issues. Link to post Share on other sites
timberwolf1 0 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) It worked, thanks! Edited January 2 by timberwolf1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mister A 10 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Hey guys, just asking.. Is there gonna be any update? Cuz when I install all of the required mods (not the recommended ones), the game crashed at a certain area on the map. For instance, when heading to pole position club, the game crashes somewhere around the gas station I think. Also, when I tried to put the police dispatcher sound, it says that the sfx is corrupted for some reason.. I'm 100% sure that I downloaded it correctly but it says it's corrupted. Link to post Share on other sites
ChubbyB0b 11 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 1/10/2021 at 8:45 AM, Mister A said: Hey guys, just asking.. Is there gonna be any update? Cuz when I install all of the required mods (not the recommended ones), the game crashed at a certain area on the map. For instance, when heading to pole position club, the game crashes somewhere around the gas station I think. Also, when I tried to put the police dispatcher sound, it says that the sfx is corrupted for some reason.. I'm 100% sure that I downloaded it correctly but it says it's corrupted. Unlikely at this point but try a mod which one kind gentleman provided at page 91. Map fixes like PS2 version, he explained installation process there. Link to post Share on other sites
B_Smiles 969 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 SPAAAAAM jk Washington Heights apartment - fixed missing textures, matches appearance in VCS (but texture can be changed to preference) Spoiler Fixed UV mapping on mansion boundary walls (both sides) Spoiler Fixed baton Spoiler Fixed depot LOD Spoiler Tarbrush Café back office - fixed walls / tables Spoiler Kaufman Cabs Spoiler Washington Beach VCPD HQ Spoiler Washington beach house - fixed exterior - additional version with hedge to match LOD Spoiler 11 Link to post Share on other sites
ernestin1 156 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 will this mod ever be updated with those fixes? Link to post Share on other sites
gts. 2,324 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Unlikely. This modification and LCLF hasn't been updated since 2016 or so, and the main team seems to be inactive or splitted up. Link to post Share on other sites
Sneed 12,853 Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 i would like to update/upgrade the mod if i had will and time. as of now its chaotic mess of something fixed and not fixed with various editors used to create fixes. it would be best to reboot it and choose some less chaotic approach to be sure to cover most of broken mess rockstar gave us. (like approaching all parts of maps seperately based on ide). and i still cant even come to conclusion how to approach fixing backface culling related issues. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Garpown 25 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 4 hours ago, Sneed said: and i still cant even come to conclusion how to approach fixing backface culling related issues. The backface culling issues are fixed with skygfx. Or with a custom cleo mod I have seen floating around. Though, this usually creates a problem with windows, they get a double effect and lose a lot of the transparency. To fix it, you just need the PS2 models converted to PC or edit them manually yourself. Or... you can edit all the models ingame that have backface culling issues but this method is way more troublesome than fixing a couple of windows. Edited January 30 by Garpown more tips Link to post Share on other sites
ernestin1 156 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 But fixes like the ones @B_Smiles posted are just anecdotal? id love to have them Link to post Share on other sites
Sneed 12,853 Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Garpown said: The backface culling issues are fixed with skygfx. Or with a custom cleo mod I have seen floating around. Though, this usually creates a problem with windows, they get a double effect and lose a lot of the transparency. To fix it, you just need the PS2 models converted to PC or edit them manually yourself. Or... you can edit all the models ingame that have backface culling issues but this method is way more troublesome than fixing a couple of windows. thing is. using pc map files many files are already have cloned polygons, others not, others are straight up broken. it would be nice to have some optimized files to not waste performance (for possible mobile and other platform fix port) 1 hour ago, ernestin1 said: But fixes like the ones @B_Smiles posted are just anecdotal? id love to have them you can still use them, noone is forcing you not to. there were many fixes posted since 2016 and with various quality. (like i think nitwill's? which had collision fix, which caused more issues by breaking some collsion limits in game ) 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ernestin1 156 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 34 minutes ago, Sneed said: you can still use them, noone is forcing you not to. there were many fixes posted since 2016 and with various quality. (like i think nitwill's? which had collision fix, which caused more issues by breaking some collsion limits in game ) But, there is no download link for the ones Smiles just posted. I wonder if someone has a folder with the separate fixes that have been posted over the years... Link to post Share on other sites
Kalvin 11,176 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 15 hours ago, ernestin1 said: But, there is no download link for the ones Smiles just posted. Each of the images he posted link to their own separate downloads. Link to post Share on other sites
ernestin1 156 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Ahhh, I did not notice it, thanks! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jack_Met 2 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 On 1/29/2021 at 5:50 PM, B_Smiles said: SPAAAAAM jk Washington Heights apartment - fixed missing textures, matches appearance in VCS (but texture can be changed to preference) Reveal hidden contents Fixed UV mapping on mansion boundary walls (both sides) Reveal hidden contents Fixed baton Reveal hidden contents Fixed depot LOD Reveal hidden contents Tarbrush Café back office - fixed walls / tables Reveal hidden contents Kaufman Cabs Reveal hidden contents Washington Beach VCPD HQ Reveal hidden contents Washington beach house - fixed exterior - additional version with hedge to match LOD Reveal hidden contents Where can i download it?? Link to post Share on other sites
spartaque12 207 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 5 hours ago, Jack_Met said: Where can i download it?? press on each image Link to post Share on other sites
Danielovitch 0 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) Hi guys, I'm new around here. I have been trying for a long time to repair the lights of the heliports of ocean beach and vice point, I know that the problem is in vclf ide / ipl. I don't understand programming so for me it is complicated. Any help is appreciated Edited February 3 by Danielovitch bad presentation Link to post Share on other sites
gts. 2,324 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 1/30/2021 at 9:51 AM, Sneed said: Spoiler i would like to update/upgrade the mod if i had will and time. as of now its chaotic mess of something fixed and not fixed with various editors used to create fixes. it would be best to reboot it and choose some less chaotic approach to be sure to cover most of broken mess rockstar gave us. (like approaching all parts of maps seperately based on ide). and i still cant even come to conclusion how to approach fixing backface culling related issues. Probably rebooting the whole thing using the PS2 map/models as base would be fine? Link to post Share on other sites
Sneed 12,853 Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 5 hours ago, gts. said: Probably rebooting the whole thing using the PS2 map/models as base would be fine? ye thought about that or using some comparison based on missing vertex thingies (for transparency used for puddles and fake reflections) and amount of polygons as PC files are superior in one way, they are not "exploded" like ps2 one http://aap.papnet.eu/gta/fpc.jpeg (this is with backface culling on ofc) Link to post Share on other sites
ChubbyB0b 11 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Complete reboot of the mod would be the best approach in my opinion. First release could fix the most noticeable things and missing textures with the other fixes being added later. Link to post Share on other sites
Sneed 12,853 Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 (edited) missings textures will probably be very easy to fix, as it seems that xbox versions is not lacking any so just compare extracted xbox txds against pc txds, see what textures are missing and copy them over. i would also like to incomporate highest quality textures if possible from other gtas, manhunt and dimzet archive (ofc capped at 256x256; but remember one guitar texture in vc pc is 512x256) Edited February 3 by Sneed 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ernestin1 156 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I really hope to see this coming to life one day, I love certain PS2 Details should as the Greenish buildings (rather than white) and the weapon Models Link to post Share on other sites
ChubbyB0b 11 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, ernestin1 said: I really hope to see this coming to life one day, I love certain PS2 Details should as the Greenish buildings (rather than white) and the weapon Models Couldn't agree more. I just realized how unfinished and crappy PC port of Vice City is. Some things I thought are intentional/design only showed to be bugs which is kinda sad to be honest. Like the picture above with safehouse. I always thought stairs were supposed to be white only to see that texture was missing. It appears that PS2 version is massively better than PC version in terms of map (literally every part of PC map has bugs and missing textures) and some missing features. Hopefully this mod will be remade one day. 2 hours ago, Sneed said: missings textures will probably be very easy to fix, as it seems that xbox versions is not lacking any so just compare extracted xbox txds against pc txds, see what textures are missing and copy them over. i would also like to incomporate highest quality textures if possible from other gtas, manhunt and dimzet archive (ofc capped at 256x256; but remember one guitar texture in vc pc is 512x256) Aren't some textures different between these versions? Or objects? I know XBOX version has different cars and some improvements. Link to post Share on other sites
Sneed 12,853 Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 (edited) nah, it would use PC textures ofc. and xbox map textures are just PC textures more crapified (sometimes lower resolution and all of the textures went through recompression ) btw ps2 map still have missing texture like soap dropper in bathroom in scarface hotel room or w.e it is, it's only on xbox (and texture is called untitled-1 ) Edited February 3 by Sneed 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ChubbyB0b 11 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Sneed said: nah, it would use PC textures ofc. and xbox map textures are just PC textures more crapified (sometimes lower resolution and all of the textures went through recompression ) btw ps2 map still have missing texture like soap dropper in bathroom in scarface hotel room or w.e it is, it's only on xbox (and texture is called untitled-1 ) So even PS2 had some bugs. Interesting, but also kinda easy to explain. VC always felt rushed, most noticeably map. For example beach is extremely big and serves no purpose at all. Also some other parts of the map are "empty". Maybe they didnt have enough time to polish the game properly enough and add more content. In the end game is iconic with the best soundtrack and arguably story. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
gts. 2,324 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 9 hours ago, Sneed said: ps2 map still have missing texture like soap dropper in bathroom in scarface hotel room or, it's only on xbox and texture is called untitled-1 Texture name is proof that it was made in microsoft's paint lol. Link to post Share on other sites
Sneed 12,853 Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 8 hours ago, ChubbyB0b said: So even PS2 had some bugs. Interesting, but also kinda easy to explain. VC always felt rushed, most noticeably map. For example beach is extremely big and serves no purpose at all. Also some other parts of the map are "empty". Maybe they didnt have enough time to polish the game properly enough and add more content. In the end game is iconic with the best soundtrack and arguably story. worst offense is downtown and little haiti. most bugs, no correct scaling and downtown being funnily small. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
