SkyGfx: PS2, Xbox and Mobile graphics for PC

[DEALUX]

Do we still get to set the size of the reflection for SA? I like to set mine to 2K.

[The Hero]

Yeah yeah, sure.

[Reyks]

The specular lighting on the Neo pipeline is the same as on the PC pipeline? Or is it using your custom "Spec" pipeline?

 

Your custom specular lighting looks much better than the PC version IMO.

[The Hero]

It's using the III/VC XBox pipeline. The shaders are exactly the same as in skygfx for III and VC, which are an accurate recreation of the original xbox shaders, except that we have 6 extra directional lights in SA instead of 4. What's a bit different is the values we use for those shaders. For III and VC we have the specular surface property (unused by RW) to control the effect somewhat but in SA R* used this for flags. Instead we have the envmap and specmap plugins so I'm using them to decide whether to do reflection and specular light but an ini setting to control the shininess because the plugin values are not meant for this effect.

Edited July 4, 2017 by The Hero

[Reyks]

Nice, this mod just keeps getting better and better.

[inadequate]

Damn, with III/VC Xbox reflections they look reflective and shiny as f*ck. I like it.

[gts.]

 

Some close-ups would be more useful.

 

 

 

 

 

 

And an example of the overpowered spec (PS: does anyone know which weather is activated via the "TOODAMNHOT" cheat? I know it's Extra Sunny but which one does it call?)

 

 

 

Amazing. With this... ENB Series is fully DEAD!

Edited July 4, 2017 by gts.

[Igor Bogdanoff]

Ur great optimist

[LaDiDa]

Some people will more then likely still use ENB over a mod that fixes a great deal of the game .

[RegistaG]

Hello, i really like your mod, especially the real time car reflections. I managed to make the reflections stronger by editing neo.txd but i was wondering if there is a way to reduce this specular effect.

[inadequate]

Some people will more then likely still use ENB over a mod that fixes almost the whole game .

Fixed.

[The Hero]

RegistA: edit the car tweaking table. The specular light controls the brightness of the main specular light, the fourth component however is a multiplier for *all* specular lights (the file says it's ignored but this is a lie).

[RegistaG]

Thanks, looks even better now.

Also, what is the biggest envsizemap that can be used

[The Hero]

Probably only limited by your hardware. But it makes no sense to go beyond your resolution.

[Davve95]

gts. @

 

Totally depends on what type of graphics you want..

 

If you want to go with like high end graphics then mmge might be a great example.

Edited July 4, 2017 by Davve95

[Ash_735]

This level should be good enough for most at night, if people don't like it, they can change it themselves, but for a public release, i think we're fine:

 

 

 

[LaDiDa]

Looks excellent Ash.

[The Hero]

After reading lots of PS2 code (hooray for MIPS assembly) I found out the PS2 vehicle pipeline is not 100% accurate. The type 1 environment mapping is a bit wrong (the one whose texture names don't start with "x"). So at least something good will come out of actually reading all the code instead of guessing a lot. This also makes me consider just ditching the PC-style texture coordinate generation in the PS2 and Spec pipelines altogether. I don't even know why I implemented them in the first place. So unless you protest a lot I think they'll be gone for the next release.

Edited July 5, 2017 by The Hero

[Rachel Amber]

so for next release you remove them and then reimplement proper accurate ps2 one?

[The Hero]

Yeah, my idea would be to do reimplement the PS2 reflections based on the real actual code now that I've read (most of) it. This will hopefully satisfy by OCD.

[Rachel Amber]

yeah nice idea id like to have some proper things too so do it as you want Nice

[LaDiDa]

It's your mod so you're free to do with it what you want, accurate seems like the better option to me anyway (not that I'll be using PS2 vehicle pipeline for much longer though, neo hype!).

[inadequate]

After reading lots of PS2 code (hooray for MIPS assembly) I found out the PS2 vehicle pipeline is not 100% accurate. The type 1 environment mapping is a bit wrong (the one whose texture names don't start with "x"). So at least something good will come out of actually reading all the code instead of guessing a lot. This also makes me consider just ditching the PC-style texture coordinate generation in the PS2 and Spec pipelines altogether. I don't even know why I implemented them in the first place. So unless you protest a lot I think they'll be gone for the next release.

ayy lmao and I thought that the PS2 reflections was 1:1 already. Then, they will look even better?

[The Hero]

The only visual difference should hardly be noticable, only type 1 environment maps as I said. Otherwise I just want to the code to be nicer.

[gts.]

This level should be good enough for most at night, if people don't like it, they can change it themselves, but for a public release, i think we're fine:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Looks pretty decent. Also, doesn't look like the PC version, it seems that the screenshots are from the Xbox version.

 

It's your mod so you're free to do with it what you want, accurate seems like the better option to me anyway (not that I'll be using PS2 vehicle pipeline for much longer though, neo hype!).

[Ash_735]

Thought if I had a bit more time, I'd do further edits to match the default timecyc (though this of course would mean it'd look bad on anything BUT the original timecyc since I'm using custom values to match), this is just one weather type corrected throughout the day:

 

[iiCriminnaaL]

 

 

 

Maybe some other effects from III/Vice City? Like vehicle headlight/taillight/siren flare effect?

Or thats too complicated/not worth it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please no, very sure that they will look awful on SA.

 

 

Well , someone kind of made it for SA as a cleo script ( and replacing some textures ) but yeah it looks kinda aweful

have a look:

 

 

 

 

 

That's because he made it for all of the game lights. In VC, it's only in the red light in the back of the vehicles, and maybe in the headlights. In addition, his mod wasn't that close to VC's effects, a bit close, but not exactly.

 

Really hope that SkyGFX's next version includes such an option, VC's headlights and red taillight effects, but not the rest of the game's lights as well. Maybe VC's glare and lens flare's textures should be added in another option, so people can decide if they want VC's lens glares but with SA's glare textures, with VC's, or totally disable them both.

 

Also, in GTA III (maybe VC too, not sure) there's some kind of effect (mostly glare effect) caused by the emergency and police car sirens, it was cut later in San Andreas. Will be great to have it in SkyGFX too.

 

EDIT: Alongside the missing lens flare/glare of the red taillights of GTA SA's vehicles, the red light's reflection is broken too, you can't see its effect on the road or wherever, unlike the headlights, their effect can be seen.

 

Was going to forget something! I don't know if SkyGFX is related to such an effect, but I guess yes; new version should include an option that activates the effect of blood drops on screen, and water drops on screen when raining or riding a boat, just like in GTA VC.

 

Wondering if this can be added (aka will it be added? ) @The Hero

[The Hero]

No. I only want to compare and revise my PS2 pipelines now and then I'll release it. No more additions unless they're really small and easy.

[SilverRST]

Ash, the screens looks nice. Although one question, shouldn't the spec be disabled during the nights?

[Ash_735]

Ash, the screens looks nice. Although one question, shouldn't the spec be disabled during the nights?

It should but I don't want to drift too far from the original and Rockstar Vienna left it on at all times, even same strength.

 

Maybe if I finish that timecyc corrected version I'll knock em down at night til they are nearly off.

 

edit: Actually, input time, are people OK with the DEFAULT carTweak having a much toned down spec highlight at nights? If so I can quickly do that, The Hero seems keen on doing this so we can put this system to use more and be better than Rockstar in this area.

Edited July 6, 2017 by Ash_735