Trevorphilipjfry Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Just throw your car against a train, and you'll see how good car deformation is. And is NG damage worse than last gen?! That is so f*cked up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conwin Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Compared to GTAIV, cars in GTAV need more brute force to look like that. Stunning work! How did you do that? If you got hit by a train in last gen you could f*ck your car up like the screenshot. It's impossible to do this in the new gen though. DaRkL3AD3R 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A5R Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Yeah the thing is previously you could at least mangle your car like IV although it was harder but now in next gen you can't even dent let alone deform about 40-50% of your vehicle i.e roof and sides which is such a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantelicious Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 I fully expect mods for the PC version of V to make the physics all crazy again and for people to find settings that they've disabled on consoles to meet the framerate requirements. GTA Online sucks though,so without a good online, I doubt it'll have the legs that GTA:SA has had and continues to have with the MTA mod. So I dunno how much it is worth investing into V for the PC just for a few things, if they brought out new story DLC then I could justify it, but I've already played through the lackluster twice and it is super short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GtaFanatik Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The cars have "soft body" physics, but a very VERY stripped down version of it. I had my Dukes looking like a banana after an encounter with a train, but the passenger compartment wasn't affected. I guarantee this is because of first person mode. If you watch Achievement Hunters GTA videos, they recently did one where Gavin crashed a Cargobob head-on into Ryan in a Stretch, both moving at full speed. The Stretch twisted like a corkscrew, one tire wouldn't even touch the ground. Yeah that was last gen, but it points out that the damage system is there, just that it takes A LOT to wreck cars that badly and they usually explode first. Actually they're called rigid body physics (damage is dynamic, but based on a series of algorithms and equations rather than physics simulation). And yes, they downgraded the damage system only to the front and back of the car, the doors and the roof remains intact, just with better scratches. This was made to keep the interior in order and the steering wheel in place, not like in last gen where the steering wheel could appear even in the passenger seat if you're hitted by a train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzknuckles Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 For those that want to crumple their cars - are you using a vanilla car or a modded car with armour? Signatures are dumb anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnocchi Flip Flops Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I don’t get the people that constantly complain about GTA5. If you don’t like the game, well then stop playing it simple as that. I love each GTA game. GTA 5 is just the best one in my opinion do I think they could of kept some stuff from previous games. Yes I do, but I don’t complain about it I just enjoy the game for what it is. So basically we humans should not complain about anything then, huh? If I buy a car and complain about some of it's issues, I should get rid of it right away? Even though I highly anticipated it's press release and then my custom order for it? No. Bobbyleez 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Flam3s Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Cars actually get deformed more easily in next gen than last gen. Maybe the roof doesnt get too damaged but im positive the cars are more fragile. Gnocchi Flip Flops 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John The Grudge Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 The damage seems improved to me. I've noticed some convincing deformation when I crash. I prefer it to that in GTA IV, where the cars deformed a bit like playdough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theworldfamous Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Damage is inconsistent. I would like to see more actual dents and deformation on the cars. But it always will be unrealistic. Realistic damage means a sandroad will literally disintegrate your nice Zentorno, a minor bump will break it's suspension and most major impacts would kill instantly. It's a bit less satisfying to wreck a car than it was in IV where it would crumple like a piece of paper. But less damage means longer chases and bigger action. The actual (visual) damage on the car is a step up from IV. No more bodypanels passing through each other and warping unrealistically. Every bullet hits in the right place, glass splinters more or less realistically and body panels do deform in interesting ways, it just takes a lot more brute force to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conwin Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) I found this image on reddit, some guy talking about a plane falling out the sky near Michaels house. He posted this image and said that the plane must of landed on the car because of the damage. If you take a closer look at the car you can see the exact point which deformation stops.The very back of the car is crumpled due to the impact of the plane which you would expect, but as soon as you cross the imaginary line that signals the start of the first person cockpit you can see the roof is completely unscathed and appears as if brand new. Just thought this was a good example of how Rockstar has changed the damage system from last gen. Edited November 26, 2014 by Conwin DaRkL3AD3R, Kafonix and A5R 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A5R Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 They didn't even let the roof and doors get minor dents. They should have left it as it was I mean who the f*ck cares if the camera clips now and then or they could have solved the problem differently like adjusting the camera according to damage or load the cockpit separately and let the car get damaged. Such a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathion Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 they made the damage alot worse on the new gen version, im especially dissapointed that you cant break open the side of the taco van anymore ----off topic----sort of---- the title of this topic makes me want to be a smart-ass and say that 'of corse the damage is scripted or else the would be no damage ingame' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Elizabeth II Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 OMG EVERYTHING WAS SO MUCH BETTER IN IV. True. DaRkL3AD3R, Kafonix and Algonquin Assassin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sly1286 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 dont want to be a hater but this Game isnt "Next Gen" at all ! ( except for the 1080p Resolution). Old Stupid Ai No AA No interiors And the physics,damage And driving is even worse than old gen Games. Seems like its very easy these days to Impresse the reviewers by only using 1080p And some Vegetation....its sad Kafonix and A.O.D.88 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlitoDorito Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Keep moaning about it, it will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sly1286 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Keep moaning about it, it will help. at least more helpful than your post DaRkL3AD3R, A.O.D.88, Wylight and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conwin Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Keep moaning about it, it will help. It will actually, if enough people moan about something Rockstar might actually take notice. I mean there's an 11 page thread on the fact that trees don't move but nobody seems to care about the crippled car damage... DaRkL3AD3R 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlitoDorito Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Keep moaning about it, it will help. at least more helpful than your post I mean tell rockstar, moan to them, they might do something about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sly1286 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Keep moaning about it, it will help. at least more helpful than your post I mean tell rockstar, moan to them, they might do something about it oh okay sorry , thought it was sarcasm peace CarlitoDorito 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlitoDorito Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 https://support.rockstargames.com/hc/communities/public/questions/202806713-Vehicle-damage-PS4-XBO-plenty of these might help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twigs2001 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) This is the sole reason i stopped playing the game last year and not bothered with the new gen version, i just find it completely dull and very boring, i was hoping to enjoy some epic rolling down the mountain type stuff etc in V but yea...fail. Edited November 27, 2014 by twigs2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan-KCR Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) This is the sole reason i stopped playing the game last year and not bothered with the new gen version, i just find it completely dull and very boring, i was hoping to enjoy some epic rolling down the mountain type stuff etc in V but yea...fail. So, just because you don't like how the cars drive, you stop playing...? I can't stop laughing! dont want to be a hater but this Game isnt "Next Gen" at all ! ( except for the 1080p Resolution). Old Stupid Ai No AA No interiors And the physics,damage And driving is even worse than old gen Games. Seems like its very easy these days to Impresse the reviewers by only using 1080p And some Vegetation....its sad You expected things that have NOT been announced at all. Damn, I have lost faith in humanity. Edited November 27, 2014 by Evan-KCR NintendoFanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoFanboy Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 GTA IV blows. It's my biggest gaming disappointment ever. V on PS4 has that best damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.O.D.88 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Dang, if Rockstar can't get GTA 5 working right on Next Gen consoles it's downright scary to think what kind of mess GTA 6 is going to be! Kafonix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan-KCR Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 It's their first game on new gen, though... I'm sure GTA 6 is going to be pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoFanboy Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Dang, if Rockstar can't get GTA 5 working right on Next Gen consoles it's downright scary to think what kind of mess GTA 6 is going to be! The game plays fine. You make it sound like it's unplayable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.O.D.88 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Come on guys: dynamic wind simulation on the trees from the trailers missing in final game promised improved damage effects are actually worse on Next Gen no upgraded ai that they promised - police are still robocops with psychic abilities traffic and ped density nowhere near what the trailers showed hardly any AA No new interiors Edited November 27, 2014 by A.O.D.88 DaRkL3AD3R 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoFanboy Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Come on guys: dynamic wind simulation on the trees from the trailers missing in final game promised improved damage effects are actually worse on Next Gen no upgraded ai that they promised - police are still robocops with psychic abilities traffic and ped density nowhere near what the trailers showed hardly any AA No new interiors Link to where they promised new interiors? If you can't provide a link then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.O.D.88 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Alright about the interiors but they promised everything else on my list and Yes better anti-aliasing should be a given since these Next Gen consoles have alot more power than last gen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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