D3L3TD Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 @EA After the reactions to SimCity and NFS Rivals, you would think that they learned something. Igor Bogdanoff, ADropInTheOcean, Testarossa and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Damn. Seems like I'll stick with the classic Underground titles. Did you see the frightened ones? Did you hear the falling bombs? Did you ever wonder... ...why we had to run for shelter when the promise of a brave new world unfurled beneath a clear blue sky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bxx Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 The way I see it always online is just a way to push DRM so there won't be a way to crack the game. Would be pretty funny if crackers manage to break it and make the game playable offline. I mean seriously seems like EA only likes to piss and bother the people who want to buy their games legit and support their company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADropInTheOcean Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) Boy, this new Need For Speed game sure looks gorgerous. I try to avoid EA games like the plague, but if this plays as good as it looks then maybe I'll get back to the NfS franchise like in the good old days and... >DRM Nah, f*ck off. Learned my lesson with SimCity. Edited May 30, 2015 by henriquedematos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverRST Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Why is EA being so stubborn and cocky?? Do they have a sh*tload of investors, stocks and or shares or whatever they are called? EA simply f*cks their legit customers by making the game online-only. It's a hyge f*ckery you buy this game and then you lose your connection and you really want to play the game. It happened to me with The Crew and since then I'll never ever buy games that require always-online, never ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) Always online again? How many times does this sh*t have to fail? Does EA want to close down another studio after their game fails for the most obvious reason? Nobody wants to depend on sh*tty EA servers once they pay them $60 or more to play the f*ckin' game. It's pretty simple. If you demand money for a product, make sure that it's convenient for the users to actually use the product. Always online isn't convenient. Mandatory online features of any kind are not convenient. f*ckin' DRM of any kind is not convenient and it doesn't prevent piracy. And even when it prevents piracy it doesn't lead to more sales. When you make piracy more convenient you don't get to complain about it. Edited May 31, 2015 by The Yokel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMcSame Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 close down another studio EA, acquiring and closing studios since 1987. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Bogdanoff Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Always online again? How many times does this sh*t have to fail? EA wants to be second Blizzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Game is always-online. http://www.dealspwn.com/speed-constant-internet-connection-learn-crew-nfs-rivals-mistakes-213921 https://twitter.com/NeedforSpeed/status/604060988673929216 seriously? ugh. alright. wake me up when they announce NFS 2016 and we'll try again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landotel Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Does this mean I need to have Live Gold? I played NFS Rivals without it (I just used silver). I hope that I can play it without the need of Live Gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningLord Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Does this mean I need to have Live Gold? I played NFS Rivals without it (I just used silver). I hope that I can play it without the need of Live Gold. Yes, it will require XBOX Live Gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landotel Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) Does this mean I need to have Live Gold? I played NFS Rivals without it (I just used silver). I hope that I can play it without the need of Live Gold. Yes, it will require XBOX Live Gold. God. Damnit. What the hell. EA you sh*t me? I thought it was just going to be a Rivals type online system. So, they are going to pull a f*cked up Crew style type of online system? That's it, I ain't buy it anymore and will not buy future NFS games if they keep doing this. "Online Single Player" is this the new trend? I only call it that because it's the way some doobies are thinking "hmm this is a good idea and sure we may not listen to our fans, but hey money. Soon I might become braindead from no fan feedback. I might as well be already: EA Games Presents: Need For Greed (2015) Edited June 1, 2015 by Landotel LightningLord and Payne Killer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hvcciookay Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 It's $60 a year for christ sakes. Even less if you get it through cdkeys. If you can't afford a service that costs $40-$60 a year, you probably shouldn't been playing Xbox in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flachbau Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) Are you joking, dude? Nobody wants to pay $60 for a membership, and then another $65+ for a game with sh*tty restrictions and limitations. Your logic sucks so badly that I almost threw myself out of my chair. To clarify, lol, I'm not complaining. I pay for the three month memberships when I can. You're just an idiot Edited June 1, 2015 by Nick Landotel, LightningLord and SilverRST 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningLord Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) It's $60 a year for christ sakes. Even less if you get it through cdkeys. If you can't afford a service that costs $40-$60 a year, you probably shouldn't been playing Xbox in the first place. And? Having to pay $60 for membership just to play a game is just silly. I honestly don't have too much on an issue paying for membership. But it doesn't change the fact that it's dumb. If you don't already have membership, that's going to cost $60. The game brand new is also $60. (At least where I live). And in other places, it costs more. So $120 (or more) to play the game, half of it goes to just being allowed to play the game. Doesn't that seem a little bit off? Also, the game needs a constant Internet connection. So if you don't want to play games online, then you can't play it. If your Internet connection gets cut off, then you can't play the game. You pay the price for a new AAA game and you have a silly Internet requirement and needed membership for the single player mode. To me, the membership and Internet connection requirement isn't an issue right now. But it's not the same for others. Not everyone can get membership (or would want to) to play this game, and not everyone can have a constant or reliable Internet connection. Edited June 1, 2015 by LightningLord Payne Killer, Landotel, MyName'sJeff and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landotel Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) It's $60 a year for christ sakes. Even less if you get it through cdkeys. If you can't afford a service that costs $40-$60 a year, you probably shouldn't been playing Xbox in the first place.So I payed $500 for a console, buying $60 games, bought a new flat screen TV because my box TV doesn't have an HDMI in it, so now I need to buy live that's $60 a year.You kidding me? I don't want to pay for another $60 just for membership. So your logic is, if I can't afford membership then I shouldn't be playing games on any current gen console whatsoever. You do realize not everyone wants to be online. I don't want this "single player online always alive" bullcrap and many others don't want to pay "$40-$60" a year. They might as well call it "The Crew: EA Edition." Rivals did not work well doing that, but at least if I have Live Silver I don't need to play with other "real" players. EA and other companies doing this always online bull is a trend that needs to die. I don't want to be forced where I can't play when I lose my internet connection. The neighborhood's wifi network stops working at a specific time for some reason. What if, you lost internet connection in the middle of oh-so important event in the game? You probably be pissed the hell of (I would too). That is why I don't want always online or requiring to buy Live Gold because there's just too many problems. There are other ones too, but it's just ridiculous how EA is pulling off the Crew type stunt where everything is online, trying to be an MMO. So paying $40 and another $60 is already $100. I am paying $100 for a game? It's not even limited edition, just the standard. I am paying $100 for a standard? Let's say I bought the same game that's limited edition that could be like what, $80? So if assuming if there's a limited edition (you know it's EA) adding a $60 membership and an $80 game is $140. How about I only want the $40 one? Well in total that's $120 I have to pay and when that runs out, I have to keep buying a $40 membership. Even so, the game is going to have it's server shutdown in like the next 5-10 years? So that's $200 - $400 ($40 a year of course) wasted because they couldn't keep the server alive. So if servers do shutdown, I can't really play that specific game anymore because "always online." There's a reason why most companies would actually have an offline option, even if you are really limited to what you have. So assuming I was paying monthly for $15. In the next 5 years it's $900 I spend on Live Gold. What about next 10 years? Well, that's $1800 I spent on monthly. Edited June 1, 2015 by Landotel LightningLord, Homemade Dynamite, SilverRST and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homemade Dynamite Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 How many times does EA have to be humiliated on a massive scale before they learn their lesson? If this game launches and it's unplayable, expect them to make a long-awaited return to the "Worst Company in America" award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Dawg Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Pay 4 Online is stupid enough, why force people into needing to have it to play a game. Payne Killer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbocharger Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 One week of hype and happiness after 10 years of waiting. One week. Aaaaand they already f*cked up. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hvcciookay Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) You act like your getting live "JUST" for NFS. If that's the case, how can you enjoy your console to the fullest extent? It's 2015. Everyone should have internet access by now. Like I said, if you don't have internet access by now or ran into some sort of financial situation, then that's bad and I hope you get out of it, but games shouldn't be on the list of something to complain about. $60 for xbox live for an entire year is nothing. Try $100 a month for a simple cell phone bill, $100 a month for insurance, $100 a month for electric, and the list goes on. Double digit bills fo a year of service, especially for what I get, is a godsend in my eyes. Edited June 1, 2015 by hvcciookay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMcSame Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) Honestly I think some people are complaining for the sake of complaining. If there's anything to complain about it's EA making another always online game which is such a bad idea for EA seeing as their servers aren't exactly stable at the best of times. A $60 subscription allows you to do other things as well, always online game has server troubles? You can do something else. On the other hand, a $60 game that wont work unless the servers are working... It becomes useless when there's server troubles and when the servers are shut down? Well, if you still play you better hope that EA gets rid of the always online stuff before they shut them down. Edited June 1, 2015 by TheMcSame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landotel Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) Honestly I think some people are complaining for the sake of complaining. If there's anything to complain about it's EA making another always online game which is such a bad idea for EA seeing as their servers aren't exactly stable at the best of times. A $60 subscription allows you to do other things as well, always online game has server troubles? You can do something else. On the other hand, a $60 game that wont work unless the servers are working... It becomes useless when there's server troubles and when the servers are shut down? Well, if you still play you better hope that EA gets rid of the always online stuff before they shut them down.The thing is I rarely complain about games. I believe DLC is a good way to help studios to show them that the consumer wants more. I complain about always online there's is just too many problems as they showed it in their previous games (Ex Simcity). I was actually praising the game (Need For Speed) because I thought EA has actually changed. I guess I am wrong and I shouldn't be complaining. "You act like your getting live "JUST" for NFS. If that's the case, how can you enjoy your console to the fullest extent? It's 2015. Everyone should have internet access by now. Like I said, if you don't have internet access by now or ran into some sort of financial situation, then that's bad and I hope you get out of it, but games shouldn't be on the list of something to complain about. $60 for xbox live for an entire year is nothing. Try $100 a month for a simple cell phone bill, $100 a month for insurance, $100 a month for electric, and the list goes on. Double digit bills fo a year of service, especially for what I get, is a godsend in my eyes." Of course I am getting Live for NFS because it's one of those few games that actually require it. Yes everyone has Internet (at least majority), but that still doesn't mean everyone's internet connection is perfect. Mine isn't for sure, maybe where you live you have the best internet connection in the whole world, but it doesn't change the fact that most others have crap internet connection that is worse than mine. I am thankful for having a decent internet connection, but others are just so bad it's not worth paying anymore. This means they spend money on a game that will just won't work most of the time. "$60 for xbox live for an entire year is nothing." Yes it is, that is still something no matter if you are a kid, teen, or an adult, it's still something you are paying for. I stopped playing Live because I felt like I was wasting my parents money (that was 5 years ago). I rarely get any games now because I got other things to do. I mean $100 for a phone bill is a lot, but you are not the only one just using it. It's something everyone uses. I highly doubt anyone else really uses Live in your residence. I was the only one using live and my parents had to pay $15 monthly (not worth it when I realize it). Another problem is restrictions which I question about current gen and why are some games restricted. I mean I have no problem with people for asking for something (I am younger than you remember that), but to ask constantly is something that I dislike. I also have no problem with you asking anyone else to pay for something, but you think as if money grows on trees. Just understand not all of us are the 1% or upper middle-class people. Edited June 1, 2015 by Landotel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMcSame Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 The thing is I rarely complain about games. I believe DLC is a good way to help studios to show them that the consumer wants more. I complain about always online there's is just too many problems as they showed it in their previous games (Ex Simcity). I was actually praising the game (Need For Speed) because I thought EA has actually changed. I guess I am wrong and I shouldn't be complaining. Had you read more than the first few words it would've been clear that I was saying that the people complaining about the membership fee were complaining for the sake of complaining when there are much worse things to complain about in this very game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landotel Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) The thing is I rarely complain about games. I believe DLC is a good way to help studios to show them that the consumer wants more. I complain about always online there's is just too many problems as they showed it in their previous games (Ex Simcity). I was actually praising the game (Need For Speed) because I thought EA has actually changed. I guess I am wrong and I shouldn't be complaining. Had you read more than the first few words it would've been clear that I was saying that the people complaining about the membership fee were complaining for the sake of complaining when there are much worse things to complain about in this very game...Oh ok I understand now, thanks for the heads up. Edit: hvcciookay I am not going to try arguing with you anymore, I can't keep up with this rebuttal, it's leading to nowhere, someone will might as well make a new topic about things wrong with current gen. I just want to hear weather they are going to change the restrictions or not. Edited June 1, 2015 by Landotel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esmittystud101 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 The way I see it, if you own a console/pc/smartphone, you should always have internet running to it. Its the modern age, not the stone age. I'm not saying your other bills you pay every month isn't important. But if you can't afford a year's worth of Live/PSN or fast internet, your not going to have fun these next few years because thats all there will be. Now, if the town you live in doesn't offer great, fast internet, I do understand, and I really do feel for you. But the ones complaining about it just because they feel they shouldn't have to or can't afford it, you shouldn't even own either console. I mean you threw money down to buy the console, right? Complain about something else, like a broken game for instance. Do we need to have Welfare for gamers now too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hvcciookay Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 . I just want to hear weather they are going to change the restrictions or not. That's the thing. Always online stuff never works out. Just look at Xbox One, and other games that ended up getting reversed. I wouldn't doubt it if these statements are merely feelers to see if it gets accepted yet, which is what these developers, Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo want for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) The way I see it, if you own a console/pc/smartphone, you should always have internet running to it. Its the modern age, not the stone age. I'm not saying your other bills you pay every month isn't important. But if you can't afford a year's worth of Live/PSN or fast internet, your not going to have fun these next few years because thats all there will be. Now, if the town you live in doesn't offer great, fast internet, I do understand, and I really do feel for you. But the ones complaining about it just because they feel they shouldn't have to or can't afford it, you shouldn't even own either console. I mean you threw money down to buy the console, right? Complain about something else, like a broken game for instance. Do we need to have Welfare for gamers now too? That's not the point. Well, it's one of the points, but a small one. The big issue here is the reliability of servers and the right and ability of the company to shut down their servers whenever they see fit. The issue is that it's a HUGE inconvenience for the paying customer. And it exists for no other reason than the fact that EA feels like this is something they can do and get away with it. And they're doing it despite the fact that every time a game that requires constant internet connection things have gone wrong. It happened to Ubisoft, it happened to Blizzard and it happened to them for f*ck sake. There's another important thing for you to ponder in the light of these news. EA doesn't give a f*ck what we think or what we want. They think that they can control their customers and demand more and more money while providing less and worse products. They don't respect us AT ALL. Why would you or anyone else give your money to someone who repeatedly demonstrates that they have absolute zero respect for you, and they only want to milk you for all that you're worth? Edited June 1, 2015 by The Yokel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyName'sJeff Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 And my comment gets deleted. Lmao. Someone here works for EA and they don't like to see them get insulted. Pathetic mods. The fact is, EA are cancer, period. Either they deliver a broken game even without an online only policy, or they do something stupid like this. Flachbau and TheMcSame 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flachbau Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 No, he just reported your post cause you were right. You made valid points. MyName'sJeff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I think we can stop comparing video games to cancer... but yes. EA makes some very silly, money-fueled decisions lately. LightningLord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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