NYC PATROL Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Apparently ACU was not downgraded. It was simply a difference of what time of day it was, in the game. As for Rockstar's reply on this matter.....now they need to see it themselves in a video or something? Damn man. You'd think it shouldn't be too hard for them to just check it out in their own game themselves. In the response I got yesterday (see page 12) they had to have seen the videos I provided (made by nbr94). Edited November 28, 2014 by NYC PATROL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp1dell Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) You guys see the "performance" patch for ACU? It downgraded the graphics pretty badly on PS4. If they do fix this tree wind bug, then it will have implications on performance no doubt. And they may tweak over time and downgrade graphics over time. Don't think it's impossible, because it definitely is. Whether it happens by glitch or intentional downgrade, it's all the same. Except that turned out to be a bug with a certain room, and the time of day+lighting outside affects the lighting inside that one room. Kind of like those timecyclemodifier.dat files that people edit for IV's ENB configs to combine all the lighting on the map or whatever, including interiors. Which is pretty dumb I might add. Why do the modifiers for interiors have to be made that way? It looks awful, especially in places like the strip club, dance clubs, or subways. Edited November 28, 2014 by cp1dell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscillatorSlave Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Viper, did you really say it completely ruins your immersion? HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relative007 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Now I know about this it really is annoying when I notice the Static trees. It is no doubt a bug and given one of the main selling features R* listed for the PS4/Xbone was the significantly improved foliage system, it is almost an inexcusable oversight. IMO this is why (sorry if this has been posted already) straight from the IGN Previews: "We then updated all our bushes, plants and trees with much, much more detailed equivalents and then worked on a much more advanced wind system so the branches and leaves blow more realistically" Edited November 28, 2014 by Relative007 Demolition Man, LT. Ronald C. Spiers and Scandalous 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivaG Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) I'm not sure if you guys already knew this. A guy(OP, is that you?) had already asked the very same question on Rockstar Support page. Unforunately, no official Rockstar rep has answered it yet. -- After a quick search, it seems that more number of fans have been asking the same question but Rockstar has yet to make an official statement. Hope it gets resolved in the next update. Edited November 28, 2014 by sivaG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrasion Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Viper, did you really say it completely ruins your immersion? HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA Everyone has subtle things they loved about the PS3 edition. I haven't seen the foliage not moving - but stuff which you previously found immersive - then they remove, certainly would make the world seem a bit lifeless. I for one f*cking hate the FPView in the car and want my hood cam back - they've made several changes in this version which are infact not for the best, in my opinion. Subtle, small but frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utack Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 After seing the framerates in the DigitalFoundry stress test I am not so sure moving trees are coming back to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViceCityStalker Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I don`t know why they don`t at the very least acknowledge that the cheersing trees aren`t cheersing moving, cheerses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaRkL3AD3R Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 After seing the framerates in the DigitalFoundry stress test I am not so sure moving trees are coming back to be honest. This is exactly what I am afraid of. If consoles are both already pushed to the limits WITHOUT trees moving in the wind, then making them all animated is just another heavy stress on the system to throw into the already tight budget for performance. It may mean sacrificing something else. It may be something subtle but make no mistake graphics downgrades will happen to make up for this reactivation of animated trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoFanboy Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 After seing the framerates in the DigitalFoundry stress test I am not so sure moving trees are coming back to be honest. This is exactly what I am afraid of. If consoles are both already pushed to the limits WITHOUT trees moving in the wind, then making them all animated is just another heavy stress on the system to throw into the already tight budget for performance. It may mean sacrificing something else. It may be something subtle but make no mistake graphics downgrades will happen to make up for this reactivation of animated trees.The DF frame rate never dropped below 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandalous Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Well thats it then. Trees and bushes will never sway in gta v i do think now they left it out for better graphics. Or whatever. Well done r*! NOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptKirk Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) After seing the framerates in the DigitalFoundry stress test I am not so sure moving trees are coming back to be honest. This is exactly what I am afraid of. If consoles are both already pushed to the limits WITHOUT trees moving in the wind, then making them all animated is just another heavy stress on the system to throw into the already tight budget for performance. It may mean sacrificing something else. It may be something subtle but make no mistake graphics downgrades will happen to make up for this reactivation of animated trees. i don't think so...it's all about optimization..the game runs fine for the most part except for some part of the city during daytime, i'm pretty sure Xbone and Ps4 can handle some moving trees Edited November 28, 2014 by CptKirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandalous Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Well i wish you all the best in life. Im done with this. Cheers NintendoFanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoFanboy Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Well i wish you all the best in life. Im done with this. Cheers Lol. I hope swaying trees never come back. Edited November 28, 2014 by NintendoFanboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James K Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Well, instead of just complaining here, spam rockstar's twitter, support, and mouthoff so they will actually look at the issue Rick Limes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Daniels Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 People saying the consoles are pushed to the limits, is that true? Is that possible? The new consoles JUST came out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandalous Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Most of us here have allready done that james and still doing. Bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James K Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Most of us here have allready done that james and still doing. ByeWell, glad i'm not yhe only one doing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANIEL3GS Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 People saying the consoles are pushed to the limits, is that true? Is that possible? The new consoles JUST came out They even moved in Red Dead. Probaly a bug or rockstar was to lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandalous Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Most of us here allready did that james and still doing. Bye And im glad you doing it to james Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iddqdvie Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 i wish r* would communicate their intension about the game better to us. whats so bad about admitting bugs and that they work on it? after looking at a ps3 video with MOVING trees. i am even pretty sure that this is just a bug and that it'll work soon. VIPΣR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandalous Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 They are the ones who let us see in many trailers trees does moving and in a interview talking about better wind systhem. Better wind systhem my ass. sivaG and VIPΣR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utack Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) People saying the consoles are pushed to the limits, is that true? Is that possible? The new consoles JUST came out Not fully. Metro Last Light and The Last Of Us look really good and pushe rock solid 60fps, most impresisve titles I have seen so far. Put the same into graphics quality over 60fps, add 2 years of experience and 6 months more development time, and you have something with fantastic visuals. Edited November 28, 2014 by utack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptKirk Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 People saying the consoles are pushed to the limits, is that true? Is that possible? The new consoles JUST came out Not fully. Metro Last Light and The Last Of Us look really good and pushe rock solid 60fps, most impresisve titles I have seen so far. Put the same into graphics quality over 60fps, add 2 years of experience and 6 months more development time, and you have something with fantastic visuals. Agree especially Metro Last Light is a beauty to behold on PS4 NintendoFanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosquitoSmasher Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 @ NYC Patrol Ok man. Well you'd think Rockstar would take note of it and address this in a future patch. I for one honestly never noticed it on 360, but i neither paid attention to it. But it's just one of those things that are a given these days. Look at Watch_Dogs trees, damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIPΣR Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Viper, did you really say it completely ruins your immersion? HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA It does ruin the immersion for me and for some others. The weather gets stormy and the trees stay there as static as a building, as if they were made out of iron/concrete. I assume that you belong to the majority, which doesn't care about little details but only care about being able to drive, fly, walk, run, swimm, shoot, grief and jump. I assume that R* could take out every little detail and make the game as bland as possible, you still wouldn't care, right? Evan-KCR, BOILER., Cutter De Blanc and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LT. Ronald C. Spiers Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Right, I'm sick of people coming on this thread and saying that immersion doesn't matter. It does. Full stop. Period. I can dish out criticism on this game, as I have been playing the Grand Theft Auto series since the top-down days of 1997, when the studio was only known to me as Take-Two Interactive and DMA Design (now embarrassingly owned by Rockstar North). Stop your bitching, as your probably not even old enough to remember the old days. A lot was promised on this game by Rockstar Games, and yet again, they give us a white elephant. They need to be held to account for not giving us what they promised, and then some. The only solution I can think of is to contact some gaming websites and get this news out there, as I believe the majority need to be made aware of this issue. The pen is mightier than the sword. Trust me, I know. PLEASE NOTE: If your planning on buying this game on PS4 or Xbox One, then DON'T! Wait until the game comes out on PC in January, and let's see what REAL hardcore game modders can do with this game, a dustpan and brush springs to mind i.e, cleaning up this diabolical and embarrassing mess that has been given to us by a game company who no longer support their fans! FIX IT ROCKSTAR, NOW! Edited November 28, 2014 by Bubbles_Shed sly1286, Scandalous, utack and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlitoDorito Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 It will be fixed, no need to bitch about it all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conwin Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 People saying the consoles are pushed to the limits, is that true? Is that possible? The new consoles JUST came out Not fully. Metro Last Light and The Last Of Us look really good and pushe rock solid 60fps, most impresisve titles I have seen so far. Put the same into graphics quality over 60fps, add 2 years of experience and 6 months more development time, and you have something with fantastic visuals. Agree especially Metro Last Light is a beauty to behold on PS4 Yes Last Light looks great but it's a linear FPS game, you can't really compare it graphically to a fully open world sandbox game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LT. Ronald C. Spiers Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 It will be fixed, no need to bitch about it all day. -R* Defender. Hmmm... Scandalous and sivaG 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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