Cars on new gen are slower!

[Kachii]

FPV doesn't mean anything, At launch I'm already doing 40 mph. And if I ram a wall and just hit the gas, even though I'm not moving it says I'm doing 35mph.

[JonRenemy]

This place ain't what it used to be back when GTA IV was coming out, I can tell (most of) you that for free

Edited November 19, 2014 by JonRenemy

[Lucius Aelius]

I don't notice much of a difference myself, it'd be nice if the cars had higher top speeds but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. Its mainly just nice for the hell of it, the point is that you should be able to drive faster than it's even possible to go without crashing, for the fun of it and for the realism. Restricting the cars like this with the speed caps seems pointless to me and needlessly limiting (assuming console limitations aren't the problem, which I didn't design the game so I wouldn't know).

 

All told I'm loving the updated game so far, that Bulpup rifle is my go to gun now just because of the nice scope you get in first person mode (I'm a fan of ACOG-style scopes). Now I just can't wait for Heists, my expectations aren't that high but I do expect them to be fun (hopefully enough so to be worth the wait).

[luisniko]

I'm just gonna sit and laugh at the elitists who said PS4/X1 version gonna be absolutely better.

[spazthing]

So, all the cars have the same top speed in the next generation too??

 

We Chradder owners have been waiting to display our dominance over you peons, but it looks like we'll have to wait for the PC version to truly display our dominance.

 

Seems the next gen version is just prettier and slower, for those struggling to keep up in the PS3/360 version. I wonder if the AI is dumbed down as well.

[elfoam]

So, all the cars have the same top speed in the next generation too??

 

We Chradder owners have been waiting to display our dominance over you peons, but it looks like we'll have to wait for the PC version to truly display our dominance.

 

Seems the next gen version is just prettier and slower, for those struggling to keep up in the PS3/360 version. I wonder if the AI is dumbed down as well.

 

PC version will be identical man. Just more resolution

[gorskiegangsta]

I'm just gonna sit and laugh at the elitists who said PS4/X1 version gonna be absolutely better.

Well, it IS objectively better, in a number of ways. However, it by no means makes the old gen version obsolete. Personally, I won't be upgrading immediately. I'll at least wait till the end of holiday season.

[999bats]

This place ain't what it used to be back when GTA IV was coming out, I can tell (most of) you that for free

I would imagine people didnt complain about something this stupid?

[gorskiegangsta]

 

Yep. It appears that acceleration has been nerfed across the board. I wonder if it is in order to incorporate the FP mode, or is an unintentional bug. OR, did Rockstar intentionally do this in order to un-nerf it later and give latecomers a fighting chance at world records?

 

 

Heh just posted this elsewhere.

 

Yeah that's about 3% slower. I guess they have to slow the cars down a bit in order to render the new foliage in time?

 

I doubt that's the reason considering the new gen hardware has over 6x more computational power and over 16x the memory of much lower latency.

 

Well if you're talking strictly online, internet speeds are not next-gen so they have to work within that framework. You could have 87X the comutational power but if you're pushing it through a straw, it's still gonna suck.

Very true, bandwith and connection latency are outside of devs' and hardware's control. However, the map and textures seem to load locally, so that can't be it.

[5.7]

Edited November 19, 2014 by Syphiroth

[REVENGE777]

 

 

 

 

I was just about to post about this, what a f*cking disappointment.. as if cars weren't slow enough to begin with.

8 to 10 seconds out of 5 minutes in something so ridiculously unprecise as race, is this really a problem?

That's not the problem per se. It's that they still don't go as fast as they're supposed to. The Adder should go as fast as 400 km/h, or at least faster than 240.

 

People (including me) can't drive them at 100km/h without crashing, what would be the point of them being able to drive up to 400km/h?. Besides, you know there are few places where you can develop high speed, where would you drive them up to 400km/h?

So you're telling me that cars shouldn't be able to go over a certain speed because people wouldn't be able to drive that without f*cking the car up? What kinda dumb sh*t is that? You can crash going 40 down strawberry, so your argument doesn't hold much weight... Might as well just drive emperors and sh*t...

 

And 8 seconds in a 5 minute race make a HUGE difference...

Think about how long 5 seconds is when traveling at high speeds across different distances... It could make all the difference from being in first place to being DNF...

Edited November 19, 2014 by SonofLosSantos

[TJGM]

Heh just posted this elsewhere.

 

Yeah that's about 3% slower. I guess they have to slow the cars down a bit in order to render the new foliage in time?

I highly doubt that, it'd be one of the dumbest ways to optimise a game.

[themanbun]

Quite disappointing tbh. With less traffic in online, would've been great for the cars to go faster so u can really feel the sensation of driving a supercar. Oh well...

[elfoam]

Quite disappointing tbh. With less traffic in online, would've been great for the cars to go faster so u can really feel the sensation of driving a supercar. Oh well...

 

The crapy cars are better for first person driving anyway. The Phoenix is my favourite car at the moment, lucky I still had one of the old crappers in my garage.

[hyperar]

 

 

 

 

I was just about to post about this, what a f*cking disappointment.. as if cars weren't slow enough to begin with.

8 to 10 seconds out of 5 minutes in something so ridiculously unprecise as race, is this really a problem?

That's not the problem per se. It's that they still don't go as fast as they're supposed to. The Adder should go as fast as 400 km/h, or at least faster than 240.

 

People (including me) can't drive them at 100km/h without crashing, what would be the point of them being able to drive up to 400km/h?. Besides, you know there are few places where you can develop high speed, where would you drive them up to 400km/h?

You shouldn't be playing this game if you can't drive bro. Either quit or have your friends drive you around

This isn't Gran Turismo. The driving is easy as fuk, just take your time and brake. I hardly ever crash. I'm gonna assume you and others are 'slow' in the head since you can't use common sense and do the above.

Quick question:

Did the guy check the 'Stats'? You should be able to view your 'Fastest Speed' and 'Fastest vehicle traveled in'

So, you never ever crashed your car right?. Do me a favor and GTFO, jackass

[Mike324467]

Whats the speed cap on ps4?

[themanbun]

 

So, you never ever crashed your car right?. Do me a favor and GTFO, jackass

I don't get the logic in saying because u can't control the car at high speed then there's no point for cars to go fast though. What's the point of putting anything mildly challenging in the game then? Might as well dumb everything down to a level where people can master it in 5 seconds. Like the other guy said, driving in this game isn't exactly gran turismo level. It just takes a bit of practice and patience and I'm sure most people would have no problem driving fast without crashing. Problem is of course nobody wants to do that. See most random racing lobby for proof.

Edited November 19, 2014 by themanbun

[hyperar]

 

So, you never ever crashed your car right?. Do me a favor and GTFO, jackass

I don't get the logic in saying because u can't control the car at high speed then there's no point for cars to go fast though. What's the point of putting anything mildly challenging in the game then? Might as well dumb everything down to a level where people can master it in 5 seconds. Like the other guy said, driving in this game isn't exactly gran turismo level. It just takes a bit of practice and patience and I'm sure most people would have no problem driving fast without crashing. Problem is of course nobody wants to do that. See most random racing lobby for proof.

 

The logic is, why on earth would you like to be able to drive up to 400km/h if you're not going to be able, first, 'cause you'll crash, second, there isn't a straight road long enough to develop that speeds

[MadeBrazen]

Oh no a whole 5 seconds slower a lap??? Oh the humanity

 

 

People pick the stupidest sh*t to whine about

 

Hey some people are highly sensitive to minor differences, this effect could be compared to the frustration of an underpowered car struggling to find speed up a hill - but all the time! nrrrrrrrrrrr

 

But its not just that the cars are slower, the real thing here is that the promise of the uncapped heights of gaming is crumbling. Games are supposed to be prettier and get faster, not slower.

 

 

 

Heh just posted this elsewhere.

 

Yeah that's about 3% slower. I guess they have to slow the cars down a bit in order to render the new foliage in time?

I highly doubt that, it'd be one of the dumbest ways to optimise a game.

 

 

Pretty sure this is exactly what has happened. People are sold on the looks, and to achieve the looks they have had to sacrifice the speed, albeit ever so slightly. Executive decision.

 

But don't get me wrong because Im not complaining. I would in fact rather it looked ultra sexy in trade for a 3% loss in speed. And this speed loss equates to only a .005% reduction in the gameplay enjoyment, which most human minds don't actually notice.

[themanbun]

The logic is, why on earth would you like to be able to drive up to 400km/h if you're not going to be able, first, 'cause you'll crash, second, there isn't a straight road long enough to develop that speeds

 

So what if u crash? It's a video game not real life. Why would u not want the ability to go faster? And just because a car can reach a certain speed doesn't mean you have to remain constantly at that speed. That's how u crash. And I'm pretty sure 400km/h was just an example. The point is cars in online are slower than they are in single players never mind being able to reach the kind of speed they can in real life. That's the disappointing part.

[Furry_Monkey]

This has reached absolutely hilarious new heights of desperation. So, according to the butt-hurts, this is something that brings the new gen version down and it's somehow no longer a superior version of the game?

 

 

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[LonerStoner97]

Its a good thing so you can see the world, instead of zooming by in your zentorno at 200mph.

[RobertL93]

We already know that spoilers on the cars will affect the aerodynamic of the car. Maybe the aero-physics are buffed?

Kachii, on 19 Nov 2014 - 05:25 AM, said:

FPV doesn't mean anything, At launch I'm already doing 40 mph. And if I ram a wall and just hit the gas, even though I'm not moving it says I'm doing 35mph.

 

 

That might be because of the wheels were spinning? IRL cars usually have the speed sensor at the gearbox.

E: No idea what happend to my post

 

Edited November 19, 2014 by RobertL93

[themanbun]

This has reached absolutely hilarious new heights of desperation. So, according to the butt-hurts, this is something that brings the new gen version down and it's somehow no longer a superior version of the game?

 

 

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Then why not just enjoy the superior version? Why log on to the forum and click on this thread when u have absolutely nothing to contribute to the argument? Only makes it seem like ur desperately trying to justify ur purchase. Which I'm sure ur not. At all.

[Zwenkwiel]

what a weird thing for them to do.

wonder what their motivation for a such a weird and obviously un-popular move would be.

personally though I don't really care, the cars feel pretty cool to drive, who cares if the numbers don't exactly match up

there aren't really miles or hours to begin with, it's a condensed virtual representation. I mean LA is a lot bigger IRL so it kind of makes sense for the speeds to be off as well.

Edited November 19, 2014 by Zwenkwiel

[Furry_Monkey]

 

This has reached absolutely hilarious new heights of desperation. So, according to the butt-hurts, this is something that brings the new gen version down and it's somehow no longer a superior version of the game?

 

 

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Then why not just enjoy the superior version? Why log on to the forum and click on this thread when u have absolutely nothing to contribute to the argument? Only makes it seem like ur desperately trying to justify ur purchase. Which I'm sure ur not. At all.

 

 

Not that my posting habits should concern you, but it's actually first thing in the morning here and I always catch up on the overnight activity whilst waking up, having breakfast etc.. I'll get back to the game shortly.

 

And I don't need to "justify my purchase" (it's *your*) as it's doing a pretty good job without my help. Unlike the people trying to bring down the new version, I'm not here to try and kick sand in people's faces. I'll leave that for the people I'm leaving behind.

[themanbun]

 

Not that my posting habits should concern you, but it's actually first thing in the morning here and I always catch up on the overnight activity whilst waking up, having breakfast etc.. I'll get back to the game shortly.

 

And I don't need to "justify my purchase" (it's *your*) as it's doing a pretty good job without my help. Unlike the people trying to bring down the new version, I'm not here to try and kick sand in people's faces. I'll leave that for the people I'm leaving behind.

You have posted numerous time in this thread about how this doesn't affect ur level of enjoyment for the game. We get it. Other people just feel differently. U bleeding on and on about it isn't going to change people's minds. Not when u fail to present any sort of coherent argument, only snide remarks. So just give it a rest.

Edited November 19, 2014 by themanbun

[LahTigre]

 

I'm just gonna sit and laugh at the elitists who said PS4/X1 version gonna be absolutely better.

Well, it IS objectively better, in a number of ways. However, it by no means makes the old gen version obsolete. Personally, I won't be upgrading immediately. I'll at least wait till the end of holiday season.

 

 

I'd honestly wait until they iron out the bugs.

 

And also until the price drops. This IS a ported game after all, and with the game being a feature of the Black Friday PS4 bundle floating around every major retailer, I can't imagine there won't be somebody willing to cut the standalone price.

 

Hell, in 2011, I purchased Batman: Arkhan City for a cut-rate Black Friday price, and the game had only come out in late October.

[Furry_Monkey]

 

 

Not that my posting habits should concern you, but it's actually first thing in the morning here and I always catch up on the overnight activity whilst waking up, having breakfast etc.. I'll get back to the game shortly.

 

And I don't need to "justify my purchase" (it's *your*) as it's doing a pretty good job without my help. Unlike the people trying to bring down the new version, I'm not here to try and kick sand in people's faces. I'll leave that for the people I'm leaving behind.

You have posted numerous time in this thread about how this doesn't affect ur level of enjoyment for the game. We get it. Other people just feel differently. U bleeding on and on about it isn't going to change people's minds. Not when u fail to present any sort of coherent argument, only snide remarks. So just give it a rest.

 

 

I'm not the one "bleeding on about it". It's such an irrelevant thing, but 4 pages of thread can't be diluted by a few posts by me. You want to see "bleeding on about it"? Read the posts that are saying this is the downfall of the new version. It's beyond laughable.

Edited November 19, 2014 by Furry_Monkey

[LawstFawkz]

Settle down boys. I noticed the speed difference also, and as racing being a top activity next to missions on my list I was a bit disappointed. But omg those graphics! I will gladly give a few mph for how great the game looks. Only thing I dislike is the fact the handbrake was switched to the right bumper and I feel like I'm paintballin whenever I try to powerslide.