No hood cam?

[Rockteur]

...So, not only this 1.18 update is scrambling licence plates, but it's also vanishing the hood camera, huh?

BTW, Rockteur, are you sure your car doesn't have a blower showing over the bonnet?

I tested it out on a Blista as well as a Feltzer. I could switch between the 3rd person angles, and the car interior, but not a hood cam. I tried racing in the car interior mode, it was crashtastic.

Edited November 18, 2014 by Andreas

[Druffmaul]

Hood cam was always a poor substitute for cockpit cam. You are wrong to miss it!

[ralf_s]

Hood cam was always a poor substitute for cockpit cam. You are wrong to miss it!

Have you even looked at the screenshots he posted?

[Druffmaul]

 

Hood cam was always a poor substitute for cockpit cam. You are wrong to miss it!

Have you even looked at the screenshots he posted?

 

I'm playing the game, and personally I'm not having a problem with it.

 

 

 

I don't think it's reasonable to expect to get a full 129600 degree view of the environment when you're sitting inside a car. The idea is to make it more realistic, giving you a view of actually driving a car. Not looking through a magical invisible camera on a two foot tripod welded to the hood.

[ralf_s]

 

 

Hood cam was always a poor substitute for cockpit cam. You are wrong to miss it!

Have you even looked at the screenshots he posted?

 

I'm playing the game, and personally I'm not having a problem with it.

 

 

 

 

I don't think it's reasonable to expect to get a full 129600 degree view of the environment when you're sitting inside a car. The idea is to make it more realistic, giving you a view of actually driving a car. Not looking through a magical invisible camera on a two foot tripod welded to the hood.

 

With respect, it doesn't look like you've got very far into the game... plus that's a convertible so you can see more anyway.

 

Besides, since when can't you see the road from the driving seat when going uphill? Imagine the carnage on our roads if that was how things were!

Edited November 18, 2014 by ralf_s

[Druffmaul]

 

 

 

Hood cam was always a poor substitute for cockpit cam. You are wrong to miss it!

Have you even looked at the screenshots he posted?

 

I'm playing the game, and personally I'm not having a problem with it.

 

 

 

 

I don't think it's reasonable to expect to get a full 129600 degree view of the environment when you're sitting inside a car. The idea is to make it more realistic, giving you a view of actually driving a car. Not looking through a magical invisible camera on a two foot tripod welded to the hood.

 

With respect, it doesn't look like you've got very far into the game... plus that's a convertible so you can see more anyway.

 

Besides, since when can't you see the road from the driving seat when going uphill? Imagine the carnage on our roads if that was how things were!

 

 

Convertible schmonvertible. I'm not navigating by the freaking stars. If the cockpit view ever gets in my way, I'll switch to 3rd person temporarily. Non-issue for me.

[ralf_s]

When you've driven cars which have a roof and seen "views" like the user posted earlier in the thread, you might get his point.

[Druffmaul]

When you've driven cars which have a roof and seen "views" like the user posted earlier in the thread, you might get his point.

 

Give me a f*cking break, I didn't make that gif just now. I've driven a bunch of different cars already, most with roofs. I love the cockpit cam, deal with it.

Edited November 18, 2014 by Druffmaul

[ralf_s]

That's fair enough... I just prefer the hood cam and will have to stick with it as I don't have a next-gen console yet.

[mr quick]

My god, you people will find anything to bitch about

[jweaver]

It gone sadly,after 13yrs...the funny thing is you can also turn off the two remaining 3rd-Person cam modes and it will just be one 3rd-Person and the full-fledged First-Person view.

q

 

How do you disable 2 of the 3rd Person views? i am also annoyed by the lack of tye bomnet view as the cockpit view is annoying.. but atlest if i could toggle between 1st and 3rd person, it woupd help rather than having to cycle through 4 views!

[abrasion]

i hear you.. i have been debating this all day on various threads and have been knocked down.. for me this is a really big deal!

Then please upvote this

http://www.reddit.com/r/GTAV/comments/2mlfdy/they_have_removed_the_classic_hood_camera_for/

Post here

https://support.rockstargames.com/hc/communities/public/questions/203689966-FPS-View-driving-mode-is-unique-and-cool-you-added-it-however-it-sucks-for-acutal-driving-bring-back-hood-cam

 

 

 

Hood cam was always a poor substitute for cockpit cam. You are wrong to miss it!

Have you even looked at the screenshots he posted?

 

I'm playing the game, and personally I'm not having a problem with it.

 

 

 

 

I don't think it's reasonable to expect to get a full 129600 degree view of the environment when you're sitting inside a car. The idea is to make it more realistic, giving you a view of actually driving a car. Not looking through a magical invisible camera on a two foot tripod welded to the hood.

 

With respect, it doesn't look like you've got very far into the game... plus that's a convertible so you can see more anyway.

 

Besides, since when can't you see the road from the driving seat when going uphill? Imagine the carnage on our roads if that was how things were!

 

 

The FOV is infact basically the same from PS3 to PS4, the difference is the car interior rendered over t he top. The hood cam isn't explicitly showing more FOV - iit's just so badly constrained on PS4 it's an utter asshole to drive.

[abrasion]

 

When you've driven cars which have a roof and seen "views" like the user posted earlier in the thread, you might get his point.

 

Give me a f*cking break, I didn't make that gif just now. I've driven a bunch of different cars already, most with roofs. I love the cockpit cam, deal with it.

 

 

or, you know. They could leave both in and keep everyone happy. Including the GTAV racing / driving fans.

[gta-man22]

Rockstar needs to re-add this or let us adjust the height of the FPV inside cars, on some cars its so low you can barely see the damn road.

 

Look at this:

 

 

Same location, hood cam vs FPV cam.

Edited November 18, 2014 by gta-man22

[Druffmaul]

It's definitely worse on certain cars. I'd rather they bump up the POV in the cockpit to fix that rather than bring back the old on the hood cam.

[abrasion]

Rockstar needs to re-add this or let us adjust the height of the FPV inside cars, on some cars its so low you can barely see the damn road.

 

Look at this:

 

<SNIP>

 

I hate to spam it but dude, make them aware.

 

Then please upvote this

http://www.reddit.com/r/GTAV/comments/2mlfdy/they_have_removed_the_classic_hood_camera_for/

Post here

https://support.rockstargames.com/hc/communities/public/questions/203689966-FPS-View-driving-mode-is-unique-and-cool-you-added-it-however-it-sucks-for-acutal-driving-bring-back-hood-cam

 

 

It's definitely worse on certain cars. I'd rather they bump up the POV in the cockpit to fix that rather than bring back the old on the hood cam.

 

Why not both?

[Druffmaul]

It's definitely worse on certain cars. I'd rather they bump up the POV in the cockpit to fix that rather than bring back the old on the hood cam.

 

Why not both?

 

 

Because if they improve the cockpit cam then theoretically there would be no reason for the hood cam to come back. I wasn't kidding when I said the hood cam was merely a poor substitute for the cockpit cam. They would have done a cockpit cam from day 1 of GTA 3 if the technology would have allowed for it. It was always about avoiding the extra processing necessary to render the vehicle interior. That's finally not an issue.

 

The idea I don't like is that instead of improving the cockpit cam, they just bring the sh*tty hood cam back.

[abrasion]

 

It's definitely worse on certain cars. I'd rather they bump up the POV in the cockpit to fix that rather than bring back the old on the hood cam.

 

Why not both?

 

 

Because if they improve the cockpit cam then theoretically there would be no reason for the hood cam to come back. I wasn't kidding when I said the hood cam was merely a poor substitute for the cockpit cam. They would have done a cockpit cam from day 1 of GTA 3 if the technology would have allowed for it. It was always about avoiding the extra processing necessary to render the vehicle interior. That's finally not an issue.

 

The idea I don't like is that instead of improving the cockpit cam, they just bring the sh*tty hood cam back.

 

 

Yeah, closed minded.

As I said, why not both? Bad reply.

I don't want to see any cockpit, PERIOD.

Edited November 19, 2014 by abrasion

[a egg]

I'm so disappointed by this. I've no problem with the in-car view and will use it often but to leave out the hood cam is just baffling, and I would love to know Rockstar's reason for its omission.

 

One of my favourite things to do in V is just fly around this amazing game world in first-person with nothing on screen to get in the way. Now the only first-person view available in car or aircraft has half of the view obscured.

 

I've played last gen V solidly for a year and I would say that 75% of my driving was done using hood cam view. Really hope enough people complain about this for it to be patched in at some point but I won't hold my breath.

[Druffmaul]

After spending more time with the game last night, I think those jpegs the guy posted earlier are bulls***. The only time I get a view like that is when the car is damaged and deformed. Otherwise I always get a good clear view of the road, even going up hill. Nothing wrong with penalizing the player for trashing their car.

[abrasion]

After spending more time with the game last night, I think those jpegs the guy posted earlier are bulls***. The only time I get a view like that is when the car is damaged and deformed. Otherwise I always get a good clear view of the road, even going up hill. Nothing wrong with penalizing the player for trashing their car.

Try and recreate them - they aren't difficult to do, you'll see your completely wrong.

Car was the exemplar 4 door - locations were all up the main hill of vinewood and sorrounding roads.

You're wrong and annoying at this point.

I'm so disappointed by this. I've no problem with the in-car view and will use it often but to leave out the hood cam is just baffling, and I would love to know Rockstar's reason for its omission.

 

One of my favourite things to do in V is just fly around this amazing game world in first-person with nothing on screen to get in the way. Now the only first-person view available in car or aircraft has half of the view obscured.

 

I've played last gen V solidly for a year and I would say that 75% of my driving was done using hood cam view. Really hope enough people complain about this for it to be patched in at some point but I won't hold my breath.

 

That's exactly why I'm pissed, the game doesn't feel the same to me.

If you're pissed dude, complain, it only takes 5 minutes, please

http://www.reddit.com/r/GTAV/comments/2mlfdy/they_have_removed_the_classic_hood_camera_for/

or even make a new thread, let them know.

https://support.rockstargames.com/hc/communities/public/topics/200063373-Grand-Theft-Auto-Online

[streetx1xracer]

Never used the hood cam on previous gta 5. It was just too shakey and bouncy. And they are using the cockpit view for immersion like you'd get irl. When Driving a car irl, not all of them will give you full on view of what's under your feet.

[BLOOD]

Hood cam was always a poor substitute for cockpit cam. You are wrong to miss it!

This ...I could agree more with this,i personally dont like the hood cam,great to see it gone for a Full-Fedge FPV (but lol the people complaining about it can always go back to last-gen) i think Future GTAs onward will (should) have the new FPV introduced in the next-gen versions of V but still optional.

Edited November 19, 2014 by Blood-Is-in-Diamond

[killahmatic]

Am I the only one that will miss this?

 

Yeah, had I owned the new gen I would miss it. I get why people like first person view (though don't agree with it), but its so hard to see. Everything is blocking your view. hood cam at least gives an open view, even though it still gives you a smaller vision field.

[abrasion]

Never used the hood cam on previous gta 5. It was just too shakey and bouncy. And they are using the cockpit view for immersion like you'd get irl. When Driving a car irl, not all of them will give you full on view of what's under your feet.

 

In real life your eyes have nearly 180' FOV and you sit much closer to the steering wheel, the FPV camera is simply leaning far, far, far too far back in the chair. I don't want my view constricted by the dash.

I am probably not going to play GTA:O anymore due to this change, I'll finish SP but the game just isn't the same anymore - the only good vehicle to drive now is the motorbikes and f*ck those pieces of sh*t.

[Druffmaul]

 

After spending more time with the game last night, I think those jpegs the guy posted earlier are bulls***. The only time I get a view like that is when the car is damaged and deformed. Otherwise I always get a good clear view of the road, even going up hill. Nothing wrong with penalizing the player for trashing their car.

Try and recreate them - they aren't difficult to do, you'll see your completely wrong.

Car was the exemplar 4 door - locations were all up the main hill of vinewood and sorrounding roads.

You're wrong and annoying at this point.

 

I DID try and re-create it, that's exactly how I came to my conclusion. I took several various vehicles of all shapes and sizes along uphill roads, and I never felt like my view was unreasonably blocked. Only time it happened was in damaged vehicles.

Edited November 19, 2014 by Andreas

[streetx1xracer]

 

 

Never used the hood cam on previous gta 5. It was just too shakey and bouncy. And they are using the cockpit view for immersion like you'd get irl. When Driving a car irl, not all of them will give you full on view of what's under your feet.

In real life your eyes have nearly 180' FOV and you sit much closer to the steering wheel, the FPV camera is simply leaning far, far, far too far back in the chair. I don't want my view constricted by the dash.

I am probably not going to play GTA:O anymore due to this change, I'll finish SP but the game just isn't the same anymore - the only good vehicle to drive now is the motorbikes and f*ck those pieces of sh*t.

not if you're tall like me, I have my seat all the way back. If you sit all the way in front irl then have fun in a crash. Your chest will become impaled by the airbag.

 

Retaining bikes, they're fun to drive.

[abrasion]

 

 

After spending more time with the game last night, I think those jpegs the guy posted earlier are bulls***. The only time I get a view like that is when the car is damaged and deformed. Otherwise I always get a good clear view of the road, even going up hill. Nothing wrong with penalizing the player for trashing their car.

Try and recreate them - they aren't difficult to do, you'll see your completely wrong.

Car was the exemplar 4 door - locations were all up the main hill of vinewood and sorrounding roads.

You're wrong and annoying at this point.

 

I DID try and re-create it, that's exactly how I came to my conclusion. I took several various vehicles of all shapes and sizes along uphill roads, and I never felt like my view was unreasonably blocked. Only time it happened was in damaged vehicles.

 

And I'm glad I'm annoying... to the disingenuous.

 

 

Look at the minimap where I took my shots.

Use this https://www.google.com/search?q=examplar%204%20door%20gtav&hl=en&gws_rd=ssl&tbm=isch

You'll see my shots aren't fake and the car is certainly not damaged.

You're either doing it wrong or deliberately lying, I'll assume you've made a mistake - go try again

[streetx1xracer]

 

 

 

 

 

 

After spending more time with the game last night, I think those jpegs the guy posted earlier are bulls***. The only time I get a view like that is when the car is damaged and deformed. Otherwise I always get a good clear view of the road, even going up hill. Nothing wrong with penalizing the player for trashing their car.

Try and recreate them - they aren't difficult to do, you'll see your completely wrong.

Car was the exemplar 4 door - locations were all up the main hill of vinewood and sorrounding roads.

You're wrong and annoying at this point.

I DID try and re-create it, that's exactly how I came to my conclusion. I took several various vehicles of all shapes and sizes along uphill roads, and I never felt like my view was unreasonably blocked. Only time it happened was in damaged vehicles.

 

And I'm glad I'm annoying... to the disingenuous.

 

Look at the minimap where I took my shots.

Use this https://www.google.com/search?q=examplar%204%20door%20gtav&hl=en&gws_rd=ssl&tbm=isch

You'll see my shots aren't fake and the car is certainly not damaged.

You're either doing it wrong or deliberately lying, I'll assume you've made a mistake - go try again

those pictures were taken on a hill. No sh*t you'd have less visibility.

 

Referring to gta-man posts

Edited November 19, 2014 by streetx1xracer

[abrasion]

 

 

 

 

After spending more time with the game last night, I think those jpegs the guy posted earlier are bulls***. The only time I get a view like that is when the car is damaged and deformed. Otherwise I always get a good clear view of the road, even going up hill. Nothing wrong with penalizing the player for trashing their car.

Try and recreate them - they aren't difficult to do, you'll see your completely wrong.

Car was the exemplar 4 door - locations were all up the main hill of vinewood and sorrounding roads.

You're wrong and annoying at this point.

I DID try and re-create it, that's exactly how I came to my conclusion. I took several various vehicles of all shapes and sizes along uphill roads, and I never felt like my view was unreasonably blocked. Only time it happened was in damaged vehicles.

 

And I'm glad I'm annoying... to the disingenuous.

 

Look at the minimap where I took my shots.

Use this https://www.google.com/search?q=examplar%204%20door%20gtav&hl=en&gws_rd=ssl&tbm=isch

You'll see my shots aren't fake and the car is certainly not damaged.

You're either doing it wrong or deliberately lying, I'll assume you've made a mistake - go try again

those pictures were taken on a hill. No sh*t you'd have less visibility.

 

Referring to gta-man posts

 

 

What difference does that make, the fact is you can't see the road.....................? Therefore it's vastly inferior

Also, one of them I'm doing down a hill, still can't see sh*t.

Edited November 19, 2014 by abrasion