Why do people like tank nerfs but hate jet nerfs?

[Giantsgiants]

Okay, first of all, before anyone calls me a whiner or a crybaby, I'd like to say that in this thread, I am not asking for anything to be nerfed.

 

Now onto the topic.

 

This is something I've noticed throughout my GTA Online career on the Rockstar Support page and on various forums. It seems like whenever someone suggests a tank nerf, he gets positive replies, and everyone is in agreement. However, anyone so much as remotely hints at a jet nerf, and they get met with flames and insults, and everyone starts defending the jet like crazy.

 

Why is this? Why do people like it when the tank gets nerfed, but not like it when the jet gets nerfed?

[Miss Malevolent]

I thought the tank needed a nerf, but they went extreme with it (I thought 5 rockets anywhere on the vehicle as a good number...I think it only takes 3) So that's probably why many folks are against the jet getting nerfed.

 

Personally, I don't care. If I see a Jet or a Tank and I'm not in one...I go elsewhere on the map OR a different session. I use a tank for grieving A.I. not humans...so once again I wasn't all that fussed by the nerf.

[Valdorien]

How was the jet nerfed? Did I miss an update where it lost it's OP miniguns?

 

edit: I just learned that nothing was actually done about it. Nevermind then.

 

Jets should be nerfed. Overpowered miniguns doesn't require any skill, they just require you not to crash while using them on an helpless player on the ground who has zero access to any sort of anti air weapons.

Edited November 12, 2014 by Valdorien

[-Jacking-]

Because Jet is hard to shoot for some people who cannot defend themselves, and others prefer to stay quiet! A Tank moves slowly, while a Jet can come quickly annoy you.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

most people actualy want both nerfed

that being said, tanks were a lot worser then the fighter jet ever was

 

sure sure, tanks coud be simply destroyed by calling in youre own tank and then getting back at the griever, but seriously, there was not a weapon in youre arsenal that coud bring a tank down at the cost of you and others not being spawnkilled several times

sertainly with the release of the new sniper rifle, all ranks now have atleast a chance of getting out of the situation, never mind a jet has first to localize you and you coud, if youre not in the open but in the city, just take cover behind buildings now... a fighter jet just cant hit you if he is coming from were the building stands

 

with the tank, well, it generaly found you right when you almost reached a safe place, not to mention it generaly woud still kill you once or atleast realy hurt you even if you were in passive mode

also, at this moment we dont have to pay or own insurance, both of those things have icons, and all pilots that blow up to many pv's will be send to the bs lobby

 

on top of that, litteraly 5 minutes later the tank woud just apear again driven by the same pile of sh*t like before, or you had to have someone that watched the griever and even then one just needed to go off radar and kill himself to escape that

 

now, with grief pilots, you have the chance to get after the guy after shooting him down, or just getting youre own fighter

and even further, the jet atleast takes some skill, everyone that had the money and the rank to buy a tank coud be a griever without problem even if they didnt even know how to drive without hitting cars

 

 

as long the bs lobbies stay and the way insurance is done stays now i think all is pretty good

[_Tacts]

Because some people think it makes perfect sense to nerf a huge vehicle with a top speed of 20mph but immediately reject any calls to nerf the OP jet which lags every time you try to shoot it, glitches into the ground before suddenly appearing in the sky again, and explosive bullets that can wipe out a tank in one go.

 

Logic....

[GrimmyGrimmGrimm]

 

 

sure sure, tanks coud be simply destroyed by calling in youre own tank and then getting back at the griever, but seriously, there was not a weapon in youre arsenal that coud bring a tank down at the cost of you and others not being spawnkilled several times

 

The Heavy Sniper (before that too, was nerfed) was excellent for taking out tank grievers. It was my favorite GTA past time!

[_Rei]

I don't know, the tank needed a nerf, but not that bad. The rate of fire was the only thing I wanted nerfed and the turret traverse speed. Reducing its armour advantage makes no point of a tank.

 

Also, jet is OP as f*ck, people don't want it nerfed because they feel powerful in it.

Edited November 12, 2014 by Rockwheels

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

 

 

 

sure sure, tanks coud be simply destroyed by calling in youre own tank and then getting back at the griever, but seriously, there was not a weapon in youre arsenal that coud bring a tank down at the cost of you and others not being spawnkilled several times

 

The Heavy Sniper (before that too, was nerfed) was excellent for taking out tank grievers. It was my favorite GTA past time!

 

yea, but it was pretty soon patched though

just as people started to know about it, and yea, then....tanks ruled everything

[A Maned Wolf]

How was the jet nerfed? Did I miss an update where it lost it's OP miniguns?

 

edit: I just learned that nothing was actually done about it. Nevermind then.

 

Jets should be nerfed. Overpowered miniguns doesn't require any skill, they just require you not to crash while using them on an helpless player on the ground who has zero access to any sort of anti air weapons.

Jets were nerfed quietly during a few patches, one reduced the cannons effective range, another got rid of the bullet contrails.

[Wastelander (Suzuki)]

 

How was the jet nerfed? Did I miss an update where it lost it's OP miniguns?

 

edit: I just learned that nothing was actually done about it. Nevermind then.

 

Jets should be nerfed. Overpowered miniguns doesn't require any skill, they just require you not to crash while using them on an helpless player on the ground who has zero access to any sort of anti air weapons.

 

Jets were nerfed quietly during a few patches, one reduced the cannons effective range, another got rid of the bullet contrails. How people STILL don't know this is beyond me. The tank was fine as was the jet the way the were at the start, no nerf was ever needed, everything has a weakness, pros, and cons.

[Sir Michael]

Here's my take on the jet... I dogfight in this game, and the lack of skill required is apparent with the raw power of a 4-shot explosive burst. I'm not a gun guy, but I know military weaponary enough to say that no fighter jet carries bullets of that sort of power. Assuming the Lazer uses 20mm Vulcan cannons, no 20mm explosive round can generate an explosion the size of grenades as deceipted in the game. I don't even think the 30mm HEI rounds of the A-10 Thunderbolt can create explosions like that.

 

Getting rid of splash damage would be great, but the cannons should retain most original damage when you land a direct hit, and possibly increasing the health of jets since they wouldn't be much of a threat to ground players without splash. Those bullets can still shred cars apart no problem, regardless of explosive bullets or not, and kill a person in one shot, granted that they land a shot. We're talking about a jet cannon after all.

Edited November 12, 2014 by SirMichaelRocks23

[streetx1xracer]

Because a tank can just be called up so it is easily accessible. A jet is easily accessible.

[CaptainMental]

Tank gets delivered just a few blocks away (usually). A jet is to be stolen from the military base which is quite far away from LS and guarded heavily.

 

A tank doesnt require any skill, a jet does.

 

Enough said.

[Arya35]

I want the jet to be nerfed because it would be a lot more fun to use if it didn't have it's explosive miniguns, because there would a challenge to killing players, and dogfights would last much longer. The jet is unstoppable if you just stay out of other players' line of sight, on my second character I wasn't killed even after 200+ kills from jet griefing.

[blizzard5]

A simple no to having the jets nerfed. I think what would be best would be to add a heat seeking missile then, like 4rounds max u can buy, give people a slightly better chance.

 

A few rounds on the minigun makes a jet start pillowing out black smoke. Also if a jet is causing you grief get a buzzard, surprisingly a large number of jet flyers r quite terrible and u can lock on and shoot ur cannon straight at the jet as it has to make a run up towards you again.

[Sir Michael]

A simple no to having the jets nerfed. I think what would be best would be to add a heat seeking missile then, like 4rounds max u can buy, give people a slightly better chance.

Here my big gripe with surface-to-air missiles: players can use them against non-military air vehicles, trolling and griefing an unarmed and totally harmless player.

[jiggaman1]

 

 

How was the jet nerfed? Did I miss an update where it lost it's OP miniguns?

 

edit: I just learned that nothing was actually done about it. Nevermind then.

 

Jets should be nerfed. Overpowered miniguns doesn't require any skill, they just require you not to crash while using them on an helpless player on the ground who has zero access to any sort of anti air weapons.

Jets were nerfed quietly during a few patches, one reduced the cannons effective range, another got rid of the bullet contrails.Bullet contrails? What are they?

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's speed got decreased too at some point.

[Dottie]

Nerfing the tank armour was so stupid

I would have gladly taken a slower turret rotation speed and a slower ROF instead since both are (and still are) really fast, even for modern tanks.

[Relative007]

The Jet is the Ultimate in Air Superiority in GTA V and more or less real life? It is meant to be OP and without explosive rounds the cannons would be pointless.

 

The bullet contrails going was annoying. Although according to the FPV Trailer, the Jet has even better contrails on PS4/Xbone.

Edited November 12, 2014 by Relative007

[blizzard5]

 

A simple no to having the jets nerfed. I think what would be best would be to add a heat seeking missile then, like 4rounds max u can buy, give people a slightly better chance.

Here my big gripe with surface-to-air missiles: players can use them against non-military air vehicles, trolling and griefing an unarmed and totally harmless player.Simple, Low ammunition and high costs, so e.g. four missiles max, instead of spewing out missiles like they produce it.

Also a few barrel rolls with certain jets would be fine to evade.

Edited November 12, 2014 by blizzard5

[Shade04rek]

Yep bringing back the heat seeking rocket launcher from sa would do the trick without needing to nerf the jet itself. At least people can't own them. I actually think aircrafts are too weak against bullets. As a big flyer of planes without guns, it's annoying how ground players down my plane in only seconds and IM the one minding my business trying to stunt ect.

 

As for tanks, trollers lost interest in them so now they are more or less a tool best for missions. I know it was a glitch but being able to snipe tankers was balancing the op of tanks back then before r* fixed it. It was certainly more fun back then than it is now.

[BigJoe_1]

I think it's because the Tank is easier to master and get good with. I've tried to get good at flying the jet but I always mess up.

 

The Tank is a land vehicle that pretty much annihilates anything in it's path, the jet is an air vehicle that requires quite a bit of skill to master and is a lot weaker than the Tank. I personally think that neither of them should be nerfed or buffed, they're fine enough as it is.

Edited November 12, 2014 by BigJoe_1

[Mr.Nedich]

If they nerf the jet, great. If they don't, well, there's high places and I have a heavy sniper rifle to put them in their place. It's fun as hell watching them freaking out and beelining for a new jet for me to shoot or calling me a griefer bitch. Apparently griefing people on the ground: Good and sniping said griefer: bad.

[Fail_At_GTA]

In most cases, its a complete retard driving the tank and it doesn't take the slightest bit of skill to get a single kill with it. However, the jet community loves to kill people in fancy ways, like doing stunts in the middle of kills, which is a very fun thing to do. When Rockstar nerfs jets they hurt that community. When Rockstar nerfs tanks the griefers just use a different method of griefing instead.

[The Lonesome Drifter]

If they give us a stinger missile launcher they can buff the Damm thing for all I care

[Starsky83]

Okay, first of all, before anyone calls me a whiner or a crybaby, I'd like to say that in this thread, I am not asking for anything to be nerfed.

 

Now onto the topic.

 

This is something I've noticed throughout my GTA Online career on the Rockstar Support page and on various forums. It seems like whenever someone suggests a tank nerf, he gets positive replies, and everyone is in agreement. However, anyone so much as remotely hints at a jet nerf, and they get met with flames and insults, and everyone starts defending the jet like crazy.

 

Why is this? Why do people like it when the tank gets nerfed, but not like it when the jet gets nerfed?

Because any dumbass can drive a tank but it takes skill which Im yet to see to fly a jet and kill with it. So the jet is no threat

[Dumb guy]

I don't care for nerfs or buffs.

Just play the game.

[Aether]

The tank should have never been nerfed..

 

f*ck threads such as these.

 

Anyone who makes a statement supporting lazers getting nerfed needs to understand the point of view from a competitive gta pilot. For those of us that take piloting the lazer seriously the odds are already against us.

 

A large majority of us went from being carefree to suddenly being in badsport, some of us for over a year for petty offences which do not include personal vehicles(it's really retarded). The last thing serious pilots are thinking about now is killing people on the ground because you people are so damn sensitive. Also there is always your heavy sniper.....

 

The piloting community or should I say the major pilot crews(which I really wish had a presence on these forums) are significantly more focused on air to air combat in this period of time. We as a community are investing in our own individual skills more than ever before so we don't need to be distracted or derailed by some nerf.

Edited November 13, 2014 by zVI Jackal IVz