GTAV Failed In One Category

[Len Lfc]

I completely agree with you. I made a topic some time last year, only about fearing Death. Most people didn't feel the same as me, but I agree that GTA needs to have a kind of fear factor.

[monkb4skunk]

Get over yourself general

[PhillBellic]

1 Star: Cops try to pull you over by lighting you up, or try to detain you if on foot - if you cooperate you get the option to pay a fine or run away giving an instant 2 stars.

2 Stars: Cops wil pursue you and try to detain you using non-lethal methods (PIT manoeuvre, spike strips, taser, tackle you etc..) if caught you can still escape, if not you'rll e spawn in front of the nearest police station and pay a fine, severity of which depending on your crimes.

3 Stars: Cops may use lethal force, however you are still free to surrender yourself. If you get killed you respawn in front of the nearest hospital and pay a hefty hefty fine, if you surrender you'll respawn at nearest police station and pay a hefty fine.

4 Stars: Noose and FIB gets called in. Caught or killed and you'll respawn in a cell in the prison for x in-game days. You get the option to sleep through the sentence, pay a hefty amount and respawn outside of the prison or sit out your sentence and free roam within the confines of the prison.

5 Stars: Entire city / area on lockdown. Caught or killed and you'll respawn in a cell in the prison, you're given the option to sleep through the sentence or free roam within the confines of the prison.

 

If you manage to evade police there will be a warrant for your arrest for x amount of in-game days depending on how many stars you've evaded.

 

Something along those lines is what I would have liked it to be like. Especially the first 3 stars.

Overall I do like your suggestion/idea. However, I would prefer that federal agencies do not become involved in pursuing the player in future GTA games. I fell that the cities SWAT/ESU teams should be called in instead, and the federal agencies should only be used in missions. Furthermore, if there was a GTA game set before November 2002, NOOSE should not exist as its real life counter part (the DHS) was only formed after that date.

 

Thoughts?

 

Cheers.

[Wheeling and Dealing]

If ya think the cops are op then ya never played driver...

[VenomsnakeVII]

If ya think the cops are op then ya never played driver...

Oh god don't remind us. The horror..... the horror

[ViceCityStalker]

Although I agree to a point this type of sh*t would make my GTA to sims like,it is about rampaging at the end of the day.

[Detective Phelps]

1 Star: Cops try to pull you over by lighting you up, or try to detain you if on foot - if you cooperate you get the option to pay a fine or run away giving an instant 2 stars.

2 Stars: Cops wil pursue you and try to detain you using non-lethal methods (PIT manoeuvre, spike strips, taser, tackle you etc..) if caught you can still escape, if not you'rll e spawn in front of the nearest police station and pay a fine, severity of which depending on your crimes.

3 Stars: Cops may use lethal force, however you are still free to surrender yourself. If you get killed you respawn in front of the nearest hospital and pay a hefty hefty fine, if you surrender you'll respawn at nearest police station and pay a hefty fine.

4 Stars: Noose and FIB gets called in. Caught or killed and you'll respawn in a cell in the prison for x in-game days. You get the option to sleep through the sentence, pay a hefty amount and respawn outside of the prison or sit out your sentence and free roam within the confines of the prison.

5 Stars: Entire city / area on lockdown. Caught or killed and you'll respawn in a cell in the prison, you're given the option to sleep through the sentence or free roam within the confines of the prison.

 

If you manage to evade police there will be a warrant for your arrest for x amount of in-game days depending on how many stars you've evaded.

 

Something along those lines is what I would have liked it to be like. Especially the first 3 stars.

Those are some excellent ideas! I especially like the idea of paying a fine in 1 star, like in Mafia II.

The ability to sleep through your sentence reminds me of the elder scrolls games. Actually, going to jail would improve the game, but only if the police AI are improved. Silenced weapons should not alert the police. If this is done, stealth would be improved, and the player would have a reason to play stealthily (other enemies won't notice you if you use silenced weapons, unless they see a body). It should be like Watch_Dogs, where a ped (who is highlighted on the map) calls the cops. The player can neutralise this person, using any methods available, preventing a police response.

 

It would make the prison somewhat useful. Being able to explore the prison, work out, play basketball, and have a realistic steak (it would probably be worse than the food at Bullworth) would make GTA V an even better gaming experience. If this is added, the player should also be able to break out (imagine this in GTA:O, it would be EPIC! SP would have the other two protags bust you out, and hackers deleting your record and cops being bribed/blackmailed so they "forget" you). However, the player would have to think. If the player is seen in the orange prisoner uniform, peds will call the cops. If the cops see you, then you're f*cked; you get an automatic 3 (5 sounds better, due to lockdown) star wanted level. The player should also be able to disguise as a cop, making it easier to evade the police. SWAT disguised would be the most effective, as the face is covered, but you'll need the other protags in the same disguise, so you look like you're in a SWAT team.

 

Maybe the hired guns for the heists could be used for the break out?

Anyway, I hope that this is included in the next GTA game, as it would make the player plan out their attacks more often, instead of going in guns blazing.

[habanosbooie]

1 Star: Cops try to pull you over by lighting you up, or try to detain you if on foot - if you cooperate you get the option to pay a fine or run away giving an instant 2 stars.

2 Stars: Cops wil pursue you and try to detain you using non-lethal methods (PIT manoeuvre, spike strips, taser, tackle you etc..) if caught you can still escape, if not you'rll e spawn in front of the nearest police station and pay a fine, severity of which depending on your crimes.

3 Stars: Cops may use lethal force, however you are still free to surrender yourself. If you get killed you respawn in front of the nearest hospital and pay a hefty hefty fine, if you surrender you'll respawn at nearest police station and pay a hefty fine.

4 Stars: Noose and FIB gets called in. Caught or killed and you'll respawn in a cell in the prison for x in-game days. You get the option to sleep through the sentence, pay a hefty amount and respawn outside of the prison or sit out your sentence and free roam within the confines of the prison.

5 Stars: Entire city / area on lockdown. Caught or killed and you'll respawn in a cell in the prison, you're given the option to sleep through the sentence or free roam within the confines of the prison.

 

If you manage to evade police there will be a warrant for your arrest for x amount of in-game days depending on how many stars you've evaded.

 

Something along those lines is what I would have liked it to be like. Especially the first 3 stars.

 

Great ideas, and well thought out. I would change "fine" to "bribe" in some instances to keep things dirty and more along the lines of traditional GTA themes; Maybe for one and two stars you could choose to "bribe" the cops if you have enough money. Maybe if you try to bribe them too early in the game when you don't have enough money the cops could just beat the piss out of you until you pass out and then you wake up by the side of the road a few hours later, a few dollars lighter, and maybe with no pants on.

 

I never liked losing all of my ammo after being arrested in previous installments, but I think it would be OK if a repercussion of being arrested was to lose certain weapons that you're carrying at the time of arrest such as the grenade launcher, rocket launcher or sticky bombs while you get to keep everything else. You could spawn outside a police station jail after paying a fine, minus a few of your most illegal weapons, or maybe even then there could be a choice to pay a huge bribe if you have the cash. They could make it so that certain police stations in certain counties could be more open to a bribe and are willing to accept less money to let you go or might be willing to let you keep your rocket launcher which would also add to the 'feel and character' of certain towns and areas of the map.

 

The bribery aspect would give us all something more to do with our billions of dollars and would help to add incentives and reward for playing.

 

And I like the idea of getting to spend time in the prison, because then the prison actually has a reason for existing in SP mode. If you choose to free roam within the prison there could be games in there, like arm wrestling or poker with other inmates; Beat the biggest guy at arm wrestling and upon his release he becomes available to use as a gunman in heists. Beat the smartest guy at poker and he becomes available as a hacker in heists.

 

 

 

I've never been arrested in V, despite trying to. Out of curiosity I tried once or twice and the police would always just shoot me until I died, even if I was unarmed and not resisting in any way. So to say it's under developed and under utilised in this game is to say the least - they might as well have just done away with it the way it is currently. I remember in IV when you would get stuck in those situations where the cops are about to pull you out of your car to arrest you but you would juuust manage to drive away, just as they're opening your door, but just before they nab you - those times could be a real adrenalin rush and now they're gone in V. Now when I get pinned or surrounded while I'm in a car I just give up and accept my fate and wait for them to shoot me to death, which is much less thrilling.

Edited November 10, 2014 by habanosbooie

[DISCO-INFERNO-70]

I agree with the OP. There are several issues I have with the POLICE AI and the overall wanted system.

 

There is NO middle ground with the police. Once you are wanted, they shoot to kill.

They don't make arrests, they simply make sure you go past the 1 star level and then start blasting away.

When you are being chased, they magically catch you from behind and start RAMMING you, regardless of how fast you are going. They shouldn't be able to catch you from behind in half the vehicles in this game.

 

Getting arrested and actually ending up IN prison would be great, especially if you can find ways of breaking out, or simply fast forwarding your time in prison by laying down in your prison cell bed. This would fast forward to your release.

 

I'd also like to see a choice of joining online lobbies where there are NO police at ALL.

I can't tell you how many times I was having a great time in a lobby full of guys killing each other, only to have cops show up and breaking the fun up by shooting you, or having you lock on to THEM. An everything goes lobby would be tons of fun, and obviously an OPTIONAL thing.

 

 

Edited November 10, 2014 by DISCO-INFERNO-70

[UshaB]

And melee combat.