Why a no-kill lobby is needed.

November 9, 2014

You may want to consider the fact that many players who support a friendly lobby option already utilize invite only and find it inadequate, hence these friendly lobby suggestions that come up a million times.

The arguments that break out in these threads is just the result of gamers doing what they do best and trying to constantly ruin the fun for others. Anything that they personally wouldn't use they want removed from the game or never even added.

I'm also glad many of you don't work for R*, else this game would have been just another dime-a-dozen one-trick-pony PVP game that no one would remember in 6 months.

Edited November 9, 2014 by TCMike

November 9, 2014

^agree with you and the OP

November 9, 2014

I'm also glad many of you don't work for R*, else this game would have been just another dime-a-dozen one-trick-pony PVP game that no one would remember in 6 months.

The game has not implemented any of the malarky suggested and people are still here not six months but a YEAR later playing it.

Game is doing just fine and still isn't a dime-a-dozen one-trick-pony.

November 9, 2014

Can someone please explain why people are against this? It baffles me..

Standard lobbys will be filled with people who actualy want to fight, resulting in all players congregating in the same areas and more intense fire fights/mayhem and LOL moments. Its just a better experience.

I dont see what the problem is?

Edited November 9, 2014 by gizz01

November 9, 2014

I don't want just a passive lobby where NPCs can kill me and I can't fight back. As many many people have said, we need a range of lobby options including no cops, PvE only, the usual PvP, and maybe even a lobby especially for trolls.

But those modes would be "fun," and as we know, Rockstar considers "fun" to be so 1999. If any "fun" is discovered in the game, it is soon removed with a subsequent patch.

Right now, the only mode Rockstar has provided except for Invite/Solo is the mindless twitch shooter called free-roam.

What we need also is a Friendly Fire Off Forum

November 9, 2014

They had a friendly lobby in rdr so I don't see why they wouldn't do that for people who might want a friendlier experience, I love lobbies how they are but it would be nice for less skilled players so they don't have to get repeatedly shot in the face or be forced to enter passive. Friendly lobbies would eliminate allot of things like bounties and exp from killing psychopath players possibly create drops as well.

Edited November 9, 2014 by Sushi_Wolf

November 9, 2014

Game is doing just fine and still isn't a dime-a-dozen one-trick-pony.

Yep, and it never was. But none of that is thanks to those in this thread who think it's just a violent fighting game and nothing more. R* added lots of stuff to mix things up, add variety, keep it fresh. If it was just deathmatches, the way some people treat it, than it really would be a one-trick-pony.

November 9, 2014

R* can add all the modes they want trying to mix things up but at the end of the day, the bread and butter of this game is freeroam...

if anything they should add IV-style lobby options...

allow us to choose a setting and match players based on the setting.

the options are already in the game, they were added with the LTS creator.

make those options available as lobby options and that would make the game way better.

Edited November 9, 2014 by CarimboHanky

November 9, 2014

Can someone please explain why people are against this? It baffles me..

Standard lobbys will be filled with people who actualy want to fight, resulting in all players congregating in the same areas and more intense fire fights/mayhem and LOL moments. Its just a better experience.

I dont see what the problem is?

because they don't wanna fight people who wanna fight back they wanna pick on , an abuse people who won't. because they aren't skilled enough to fight people who actually enjoy fighting.

there basically bullies o.o an like a bully in say schools . they never try to pick fights with the people who actually fight back only the ones who don't. it'd hurt there pride, an they'd find it just as annoying if people were constantly blowing them up for no reason whenever they tried to do something. people are just pathetic like that.

November 9, 2014

Many kiddo's in this thread

Even in an invite only session there is a change you get killed..

Thats why i understand why this guy wants it ..

You have free aim and auto aim.. and it is up to you to decide or choose wich one suits you the best..

So it would be nice to have the option NO aim

or NO cops would also be a cool option..

Everyone his own opinion

November 9, 2014

Can someone please explain why people are against this? It baffles me..

Standard lobbys will be filled with people who actualy want to fight, resulting in all players congregating in the same areas and more intense fire fights/mayhem and LOL moments. Its just a better experience.

I dont see what the problem is?

because they don't wanna fight people who wanna fight back they wanna pick on , an abuse people who won't. because they aren't skilled enough to fight people who actually enjoy fighting.

there basically bullies o.o an like a bully in say schools . they never try to pick fights with the people who actually fight back only the ones who don't. it'd hurt there pride, an they'd find it just as annoying if people were constantly blowing them up for no reason whenever they tried to do something. people are just pathetic like that.

Beautiful post, you're correct. If you want to kill people join a deathmatch, that's what they're there for.

November 9, 2014

I'm also glad many of you don't work for R*, else this game would have been just another dime-a-dozen one-trick-pony PVP game that no one would remember in 6 months.

The game has not implemented any of the malarky suggested and people are still here not six months but a YEAR later playing it.Game is doing just fine and still isn't a dime-a-dozen one-trick-pony.Lobbys as they are make this a one trick pony atm, and the game is capabe of more a LOT more..

How many times have you been online and players get talking and go and do some random parachute jumps together?

There is tons to do in this game and as it stands now all that happens is blowing up everything that moves, the game can offer so much more ..

People don't speak up in lobbys and randomly say "anyone fancy a trip up Mount chiliad" because the only comebacks you get are "f*ck you pussy" "shut the f*ck up", if on the off chance someone does pluck up the courage to reply and say somthing ill bet my house and car there is a griefing idiot who will come over and purposely wreck the way WE want to play.. you guys just logon hop in a lobby and play... rip sh*t up and KILL.. your happy.. great.. well why are we not allowed to do that?

Why if we want to do somthing why have we got to spend an afternoon on a forum organising a meet up and lock ourselves away in an invite lobby where we have no chance of meeting anyone other than those we manage to pick up of a forum post?

Why can't we just jump in a lobby and play in an environment that suits our way of play which is anything but a bunch of abuse and being killed every 2 mins by some 15 yr old with mental issues?...

Why carnt we play in an environment where people drop in on a lobby and say "hey folks what we doing" to get a reply that "we are offroading here and about to do a parachute jump over here"?

Why are is freeroam ONLY for people who want to tear sh*t up?

Edited November 9, 2014 by gizz01

November 9, 2014

It'd be nice to go to a LSC and leave without having someone sticky bomb the exits. I want to get in cop chases with people without having the mental state being affected. Have other people pulling off store robberies and having a 4 or 5 star wanted level, filling up the rides. I usually joined free roam and drove around in IV and I do the same in V but I'm not all about chasing after people to kill them.

November 9, 2014

Yep, and it never was. But none of that is thanks to those in this thread who think it's just a violent fighting game and nothing more. R* added lots of stuff to mix things up, add variety, keep it fresh. If it was just deathmatches, the way some people treat it, than it really would be a one-trick-pony.

Your exaggeration aside...anyone who compares this game to Call of Duty...hasn't played Call of Duty.

And I'm all for peace lobbies as long as the combat wheel is disabled, no options for making illicit funds are available. Then people can do stunts, take pictures, meet up for car shows, go to the movies etc.

Edited November 9, 2014 by Miss Malevolent

November 9, 2014

Can someone please explain why people are against this? It baffles me..

Standard lobbys will be filled with people who actualy want to fight, resulting in all players congregating in the same areas and more intense fire fights/mayhem and LOL moments. Its just a better experience.

I dont see what the problem is?

because they don't wanna fight people who wanna fight back they wanna pick on , an abuse people who won't. because they aren't skilled enough to fight people who actually enjoy fighting.

there basically bullies o.o an like a bully in say schools . they never try to pick fights with the people who actually fight back only the ones who don't. it'd hurt there pride, an they'd find it just as annoying if people were constantly blowing them up for no reason whenever they tried to do something. people are just pathetic like that.

No, it's because they are pussifying the game;

GTA is no longer about crime, it's about friendship

GTA is no longer about killing, it's about exploring

GTA is no longer about destruction, it's about roleplaying

It's NOT about "bullying" if you are WILLINGLY playing this game, you KNOW what it is about, you KNOW what GTA is or else you wouldn't be playing it...stop ruining the game...

...although Hillary Clinton and Tipper Gore would be proud of you

November 9, 2014

I'd be bored in five minutes in a Call of Duty game, where it was just killing each other over and over. Seems more for little kids or men with phallic issues.LOL

I even got bored watching a video of it. That was less than five minutes.

November 9, 2014

Can someone please explain why people are against this? It baffles me..

Standard lobbys will be filled with people who actualy want to fight, resulting in all players congregating in the same areas and more intense fire fights/mayhem and LOL moments. Its just a better experience.

I dont see what the problem is?

because they don't wanna fight people who wanna fight back they wanna pick on , an abuse people who won't. because they aren't skilled enough to fight people who actually enjoy fighting.

there basically bullies o.o an like a bully in say schools . they never try to pick fights with the people who actually fight back only the ones who don't. it'd hurt there pride, an they'd find it just as annoying if people were constantly blowing them up for no reason whenever they tried to do something. people are just pathetic like that.

No, it's because they are pussifying the game;

GTA is no longer about crime, it's about friendship

GTA is no longer about killing, it's about exploring

GTA is no longer about destruction, it's about roleplaying

It's NOT about "bullying" if you are WILLINGLY playing this game, you KNOW what it is about, you KNOW what GTA is or else you wouldn't be playing it...stop ruining the game...

...although Hillary Clinton and Tipper Gore would be proud of you

Thats your reason for going against friendly lobbys? Jesus..

You people sit there and scream "dont tell me how to my gta" "gta is a sandbox ill play the way I want bitch" but when we play the way we like we can't make use of this sandbox because we are pussiefying the game? Doesnt sound like much of a sandbox to me, it sounds like game were your only allowed to do one thing...

You guys wont and can't answer simple questions on why this is a bad idea, in 2 threads over the last 2 days ive not seen one of you guys put up a reason why this idea would do anything other than make both parties happy...

Well let me tell you guys something right here right now, these threads are a waste of time, we don't need your nod of approval to see this kinda stuff in the future, the truth is GTA ONLINE is not the multi player it was and neither does it resemble the standard multi player we see on every other 2 bit game..

GTA ONLINE is more MMO now, and its only going to get stronger, why would R* spend years creating los Santos and gta online just to throw a bunch of nut jobs in to throw stickies at each other? Why create the monetary system? Why creat and continue to expand on clothing and now character customization?

Its happening people, and you guys will get squeezed out, sane people have been begging for 1st person in gta for ages to experience the world from our players eyes, the one thing you guys have fought against for ages "no f*cking way gta is 3rd person ""sandbox"" shooter".... well its happened.. and its only going to get stronger.

R* could have simply put a standard MP in like gta 4 but they didnt,truth is times are changing like it or not..

Gta omline will get more and more RP elements added as time goes on, games like this are huge and done right are cash cows... people who want that experience are willimg to pay for things, special expansions, special items, its big money and that is where this is going mark my words..

Your guys are getting pissed because you carnt glitch millions or your "forced" to do a few missions to pay for your stickie sessions, you dont get this idea of "do = reward" we are used to it, you just want to be given all the best stuff and kill.. well get it though your heads right now that gta is moving further away from this idea more and more..

By the time gta 6 comes out maybe earlier, gta online will be a fully fledged mmo riddled with RPG elements, so all you guys will be gone because you refuse to except this way of gaming because your nothing but stupid mindless fragers that get pissed if you have got to dip into your pocket money for something in game.. you want instant reward for doing nothing than mindless griefing and telling each other how big your cocks are...

Its happening, very soon gta will not be the game for you, your already struggling, so you people keep dodging simple questions all day long because like it or lump it your days are numbers..

Thats the truth folks, we are just attempting to have a civil discussion, but we dont need your nod of approval, far from it.... you are worth nothing to rockstar in regards to ONLINE, more creative players are, your gone, its just a matter of time..

Edited November 9, 2014 by gizz01

November 9, 2014

And I'm all for peace lobbies as long as the combat wheel is disabled, no options for making illicit funds are available. Then people can do stunts, take pictures, meet up for car shows, go to the movies etc.

Why? Those things are enabled in invite only, solo, closed crew, etc. Why does it have to be all violence or no violence?

The appeal of playing online over single player is being able to play with other people. With them, not just against them. It's like all the co-op aspects of the game are being ignored. A big reason players want this type of lobby is because they're annoyed with trolls and griefers, not because they're pacifists who're offended by violence.

As I said in that other closed thread, if R* offered a lobby option like this, then they could theoretically get rid of bad sport and passive mode from normal lobbies, which would make many of the hardcore PVPers happy, I'm sure.

November 9, 2014

In the words of Batista

"DEAL WITH IT"

Seriously though, maybe is could be called "Good Sport Lobby" and if you never kill or don't kill often you get sent there until you get a certain amount of kills.

November 9, 2014

You guys wont and can't answer simple questions on why this is a bad idea, in 2 threads over the last 2 days ive nkt seen one of you guys put up a reason why this idea would do anything other than make both parties happy...

I'm sick of this canard...you were given several reasons why it's a bad idea. Rejecting them is not the same as not getting them. Just like many of us reject wholesale your reasons why it's a fantastic idea.

Why do you not have the ability to comprehend that is obvious.

November 9, 2014

I'm also glad many of you don't work for R*, else this game would have been just another dime-a-dozen one-trick-pony PVP game that no one would remember in 6 months.

The game has not implemented any of the malarky suggested and people are still here not six months but a YEAR later playing it.Game is doing just fine and still isn't a dime-a-dozen one-trick-pony.

Lobbys as they are make this a one trick pony atm, and the game is capabe of more a LOT more..

How many times have you been online and players get talking and go and do some random parachute jumps together?

There is tons to do in this game and as it stands now all that happens is blowing up everything that moves, the game can offer so much more ..

People don't speak up in lobbys and randomly say "anyone fancy a trip up Mount chiliad" because the only comebacks you get are "f*ck you pussy" "shut the f*ck up", if on the off chance someone does pluck up the courage to reply and say somthing ill bet my house and car there is a griefing idiot who will come over and purposely wreck the way WE want to play.. you guys just logon hop in a lobby and play... rip sh*t up and KILL.. your happy.. great.. well why are we not allowed to do that?

Why if we want to do somthing why have we got to spend an afternoon on a forum organising a meet up and lock ourselves away in an invite lobby where we have no chance of meeting anyone other than those we manage to pick up of a forum post?

Why can't we just jump in a lobby and play in an environment that suits our way of play which is anything but a bunch of abuse and being killed every 2 mins by some 15 yr old with mental issues?...

Why carnt we play in an environment where people drop in on a lobby and say "hey folks what we doing" to get a reply that "we are offroading here and about to do a parachute jump over here"?

Why are is freeroam ONLY for people who want to tear sh*t up?

mate you want to turn the game in something that its not...

this game revolves around crime, killing, mayhem and destruction, where people have access to military weapons and equipment.

dont complain about not being able to join a lobby without getting obliterated when you know, whether you like it or not, the game revolves around that.

this is like me playing a racing game and complaining about why cant people follow traffic rules in the game.

yes, IV and RDR had some sort of "no killing" lobby but i dont think such thing is needed in V, because they gave us the power to host our own lobby, thats why we can go to a private solo session, join our crew members in a crew session or simply invite friends into a Invite only session.

those are controlled environment for people that dont want to join the mayhem of a open lobby.

you ask why do you have to spend time organizing meet up and going into a invite only... well thats because youre are trying to swim against the current.

what we have now is the nature of this game at full display.

November 9, 2014

Why? Those things are enabled in invite only, solo, closed crew, etc. Why does it have to be all violence or no violence?

The appeal of playing online over single player is being able to play with other people. With them, not just against them. It's like all the co-op aspects of the game are being ignored. A big reason players want this type of lobby is because they're annoyed with trolls and griefers, not because they're pacifists who're offended by violence.

As I said in that other closed thread, if R* offered a lobby option like this, then they could theoretically get rid of bad sport and passive mode from normal lobbies, which would make many of the hardcore PVPers happy, I'm sure.

It would be redundant to add what you suggest as you said it yourself, you already have the options...you chose to not be satisfied with those options.

Want to have a consequence free environment?...you get it without the money making mayhem benefits.

Want Co-Op play? Do a mission add a friend and play friend only and turn friendly fire to low.

Wanna make friends in a consequence free environment then peace all the way around.

Edited November 9, 2014 by Miss Malevolent

November 9, 2014

You guys wont and can't answer simple questions on why this is a bad idea, in 2 threads over the last 2 days ive nkt seen one of you guys put up a reason why this idea would do anything other than make both parties happy...

I'm sick of this canard...you were given several reasons why it's a bad idea. Rejecting them is not the same as not getting them. Just like many of us reject wholesale your reasons why it's a fantastic idea.

Why do you not have the ability to comprehend that is obvious.

Give me a list of these "several reasons"

November 9, 2014

Give me a list of these "several reasons"

You want me to TLDR everyone's posts in the threads for you? Seriously?

November 9, 2014

-snip-

mate if youre so sure that gta would turn into a mmo where all the hyper-aggressive players would get left out crying, then why you even bother making threads about the topic.

November 9, 2014