Why a no-kill lobby is needed.

[V HoneyBadger V]

The only way passive lobbies can work is if the players bank account is frozen, they cannot access their vehicles and they can't make any money.

It al comes down to money, and a passive lobby cannot have any of that. The full experience has to be confined to standard play, and passive lobbies have to be separate. Everything in a passive lobby had to be arcade-like.

 

Basically, passive lobbies could be GTA V multiplayer and GTA Online is the normal mode.

 

EDIT: No Simeon, armoured trucks etc. No money making ability at all.

Edited November 9, 2014 by V HoneyBadger V

[Arrows to Athens]

You make it sound like it's hard to get away from griefers,which it isn't. If someone is killing you,just go away,or change sessions.

 

I wonder where GTAO would be if R* added every single thing the community - thought - was - good - .

 

Adding something like this would be even more pointless than ATMs in GTAO. If you don't wanna get killed join private or invite only and don't play with other people. GTAO is that kind of game where you get rewarded for killing other players.

What makes you think frequent griefing is the reason why many people demand a non-friendly fire lobby? Some people just want a clean lobby and want to drive around with their cars without being interrupted by supernatural cops, hostile players and AI traffic that are able to defy the laws of physics.

Edited November 9, 2014 by Fearx--

[Dinlee]

The more options the better, personally I doubt I would ever want to use it. Trolling in these lobbies would still exist but you would be less equip to handle it. A troll would just need their 6x6 to constantly ram into you and there really wouldnt be much you could do.

 

 

Good post tho.

[Soran Is On]

Free roam fighting is the money sink that rockstar needs to keep Kersh Kerds flowing.

 

As much as players want it. It's not gonna happen.

[Arrows to Athens]

Free roam fighting is the money sink that rockstar needs to keep Kersh Kerds flowing.

 

As much as players want it. It's not gonna happen.

Agreed.

[CarimboHanky]

What makes you think frequent griefing is the reason why many people demand a non-friendly fire lobby? Some people just want a clean lobby and want to drive around with their cars without being interrupted by supernatural cops, hostile players and AI traffic that are able to defy the laws of physics.

what you describe is an invite only with Lobby Options to turn off cops and stuff like that.

 

I'd give one of my balls for IV-style Lobby Options.

 

One of my balls!!!

 

Randy Johnson Signed Ball

 

Edited November 9, 2014 by CarimboHanky

[Arrows to Athens]

 

What makes you think frequent griefing is the reason why many people demand a non-friendly fire lobby? Some people just want a clean lobby and want to drive around with their cars without being interrupted by supernatural cops, hostile players and AI traffic that are able to defy the laws of physics.

what you describe is an invite only with Lobby Options to turn off cops and stuff like that.

 

I'd give one of my balls for IV-style Lobby Options.

 

Never knew you could do that in Invite only but what's the point of playing ONLINE if 90% of the time you're going to be playing by yourself? I fail to see why IV Online is any different than V Online other than the fact that V has more features and diversity.

[Homemade Dynamite]

This is what the Invite Session Only is for.

Caught another who didn't read the OP hook, line, and sinker.

[Nick1020]

 

A no-kill lobby is not needed. Use passive mode and learn how to avoid other players. Rockstar even give you a map to help with this! It's hardly difficult.

 

 

 

I disagree. Every time I go into passive mode, some tween or moron always ends up running me over even after I run.

GTA 4 had one, and I'm pretty sure it wouldn't hurt for gta online to have one.

 

Edit: messed up my quote.

Edited November 9, 2014 by Nick1020

[am30]

 

This is what the Invite Session Only is for.

Caught another who didn't read the OP hook, line, and sinker.

 

 

I suspect he did read it and answered exactly what the OP is describing.

 

 

 

A no-kill lobby is not needed. Use passive mode and learn how to avoid other players. Rockstar even give you a map to help with this! It's hardly difficult.

 

 

I disagree. Every time I go into passive mode, some tween or moron always ends up running me over even after I run.

GTA 4 had one, and I'm pretty sure it wouldn't hurt for gta online to have one.

 

Edit: messed up my quote.

 

That's why you use the map and stay away from randoms. Besides, unless it was some sort of ghost mode you'd still get other players running you over thus rendering this type of session completely useless.

Edited November 9, 2014 by am30

[Zwenkwiel]

Wow, you people are assholes. This worked out perfectly in IV and there was tons of other fun to be had without killing. It's clear you guys are trolling, or are trolls in GTAO.

It's not even about killing or no killing imo

it's the restriction of having no options available whatsoever that annoys me.

i don't care if I infringe on your money making schemes R*, I bought this game just let me play it!

Edited November 9, 2014 by Zwenkwiel

[Zorvaine]

OP, I agree with you, this is a wonderful feature.

 

There's so many things to do in this game yet close-minded idiots only see it as CoD Open World.

 

Online is already imbalanced due to the weapon distribution. No one uses guns in vehicles anymore, everyone uses sticky bombs. Car chases are ruined by that. Usually if a Freemode war begins, 70% of everyone only uses the RPG / Minigun or a Tank / Jet. It doesn't feel close to a criminal world. More as CoD meets Borderlands.

 

Case in point. This would be welcome. More than people can admit to it. What's also needed are explosive-restricted lobbies. GTA needs to be GTA. Not World War 3.

[CarimboHanky]

Online is already imbalanced due to the weapon distribution. No one uses guns in vehicles anymore, everyone uses sticky bombs. Car chases are ruined by that. Usually if a Freemode war begins, 70% of everyone only uses the RPG / Minigun or a Tank / Jet. It doesn't feel close to a criminal world. More as CoD meets Borderlands.

 

Case in point. This would be welcome. More than people can admit to it. What's also needed are explosive-restricted lobbies. GTA needs to be GTA. Not World War 3.

WHAT?????

 

imbalanced gun distribution? well guns are rank-locked, you dont get more balanced than that.

 

the problem is the match making, the system put high ranked and low ranked players together.

 

i dont see why the system would place a level 20 in a lobby with 15 100+ rank players.

 

btw, the "explosive free" lobby is even more ridiculous that the passive lobby.

[Gutslab]

 

 

I disagree. Every time I go into passive mode, some tween or moron always ends up running me over even after I run.

GTA 4 had one, and I'm pretty sure it wouldn't hurt for gta online to have one.

 

Edit: messed up my quote.

 

That's why you use the map and stay away from randoms.

 

even if you're able to stay away from people, what is the fun in that? you sound like a troll like the other idiots in this thread. maybe for you this game is just about shooting a gun at people but for many other players it's not. there's so many other possibilities with this sandbox game, people like you will never get. you'll just reply with play the sims or join an invite lobby, neither of which are relevant solutions to OP's idea.

[FriendlyFireOFF]

Only the FreeRoamWarriors will be against this idea.

Or maybe even a better idea: Friendly Fire Off lobbies, just like IV. Everybody is in Ghost Mode like in races.

It's also something they could easily add to an update as well. But as I have said before the reason why they probably won't is because they want freemode in V not to be a comfortable place for you to spend a long time in as they want you on jobs earning money etc instead.

 

I'd also love to filter that every time I choose a random race I automatically join a non-contact lobby.

 

I hope with the new versions and through next year R* focuses on more customization of your experience. But I won't hold my breath......

[n0tj0sh33]

OP, I agree with you, this is a wonderful feature.

 

There's so many things to do in this game yet close-minded idiots only see it as CoD Open World.

 

Online is already imbalanced due to the weapon distribution. No one uses guns in vehicles anymore, everyone uses sticky bombs. Car chases are ruined by that. Usually if a Freemode war begins, 70% of everyone only uses the RPG / Minigun or a Tank / Jet. It doesn't feel close to a criminal world. More as CoD meets Borderlands.

 

Case in point. This would be welcome. More than people can admit to it. What's also needed are explosive-restricted lobbies. GTA needs to be GTA. Not World War 3.

Yeah the fact everyone is rich and there is nothing to spend it on is partly why expensive power weapons are used by everyone. I miss that first phase of gta where you are stuck with like a pistol and an smg, had some really cool chases and fights. With sticky bombs a chase never lasts longer that a few seconds now all you have to do is drop one around a corner or something.

[FriendlyFireOFF]

 

What makes you think frequent griefing is the reason why many people demand a non-friendly fire lobby? Some people just want a clean lobby and want to drive around with their cars without being interrupted by supernatural cops, hostile players and AI traffic that are able to defy the laws of physics.

what you describe is an invite only with Lobby Options to turn off cops and stuff like that.

 

I'd give one of my balls for IV-style Lobby Options.

 

One of my balls!!!

 

Randy Johnson Signed Ball

 

 

I'd pay for those options happily. I've spent 1000's of hours in IV's freemode and still do.....even more than V.

[Gutslab]

I did read it. I thought maybe you didn't actually know you could make your own lobby, populate it with players who want to play the way you want and have a grand ol time.

 

I used to do this with the BF Surfer Crusiers. We'd just roll those busses. No killing. 9/10 times it worked.

Seems like I had this same conversation last night. Use the tools (options(thanks teammate assist) ) available.

 

I don't see the need for rockstar to implement some new coding that could screw up all lobbies when you already can do what you want.

You just refuse to.

I just like how you tell us we(as in those who want to do things beyond killing) should be responsible for gathering players, that we should take the initiative and invest the resources to get what we want. Why not add separate lobbies for this purpose, what's so wrong with that? Not everyone has the time to recruit players, would so much easier to join a lobby full of like-minded randoms.

[CarimboHanky]

even if you're able to stay away from people, what is the fun in that? you sound like a troll like the other idiots in this thread. maybe for you this game is just about shooting a gun at people but for many other players it's not. there's so many other possibilities with this sandbox game, people like you will never get. you'll just reply with play the sims or join an invite lobby, neither of which are relevant solutions to OP's idea.

so the problem are people playing the game as "intended"...WOW!!!

 

anyway, OP issues can be solved by simply going to the "Find Lobby & Meetups" section of this forum and hook up with like minded player.

 

once everyone is online, join a Invite Only and BAM problem solved, you can do stunt and all the silly stuff you want.

[Zorvaine]

 

WHAT?????

 

imbalanced gun distribution? well guns are rank-locked, you dont get more balanced than that.

 

the problem is the match making, the system put high ranked and low ranked players together.

 

i dont see why the system would place a level 20 in a lobby with 15 100+ rank players.

 

btw, the "explosive free" lobby is even more ridiculous that the passive lobby.

 

 

There's plenty of ways to have it more balanced.

 

Rank doesn't have much to do with combat. Not all of us are going to be rank 20 forever. A lot of people I know would like explosive-restricted lobbies since it'e more fun. And all of them are above rank 120. Actual gun fights on the street and bounty car chases where you're being shot at instead of a guy just sticking you with a bomb and killing you instantly.

 

 

And given the so-called balanced lobby system, it's false. Just yesterday I was in a lobby with a rank 5, rank 20, 300, 80 etc. All mixed.

 

The only thing explosive-restricted lobbies would change, would be combat. On-Foot combat and Vehicle combat. Even chasing bounties, I would like to drive behind and shoot at my target. Instead, he just keeps throwing and spamming sticky bombs. A funny feature in the game is when you approach Simeon's High Priority Vehicle, it tells you that if you hold triangle, you can throw the player out. Right. That person will 90% of the time blow you up, maybe if you're lucky, he will use the AP pistol and shoot at you.

 

Rockstar went too far with heavy weapons. At a realistic degree, the most criminally used weapon in the world is the pistol. Yet in GTA, no one uses it. All they use are explosives and military vehicles. Which basically makes players either war affiliated or terrorists. We have other games for that.

Edited November 9, 2014 by Zorvaine

[Gutslab]

so the problem are people playing the game as "intended"...WOW!!!

anyway, OP issues can be solved by simply going to the "Find Lobby & Meetups" section of this forum and hook up with like minded player.

 

once everyone is online, join a Invite Only and BAM problem solved, you can do stunt and all the silly stuff you want.

 

I don't know if I should even respond, after looking at your user title and avatar. You are a perfect example of the annoying ass player who griefs everyone, someone nobody wants around. V online was not intended to be a chaos-filled COD type experience, in which everyone is blasting each other mindlessley while screaming mom jokes on mics. If it was, why do we have RP elements like houses, cars and the whole money making process? They could just remove that pointless sh*t and give everyone max guns and ammo and have at it. I'll repeat, R*'s original intention with V online was to not have it in the current state it is. The reality is, that's what it became. Look it's fun to grief and piss off players sometimes but personally, it gets boring after a while. Many others feel the same way. It's the same boring warfare type crap day after day.

 

To your remark about the find a lobby section, see my previous reply. While it's one method to achieve non kill lobby, it's not ideal. Separate lobbies would just have way more benefits and convenience.

Edited November 9, 2014 by pokemon4ever

[CarimboHanky]

whats next a "rifle restricted lobby"?

 

because you know i want a pistol fight in freeroam and everyone uses rifles, its unfair and imbalanced.

[am30]

 

 

 

I disagree. Every time I go into passive mode, some tween or moron always ends up running me over even after I run.

GTA 4 had one, and I'm pretty sure it wouldn't hurt for gta online to have one.

 

Edit: messed up my quote.

 

That's why you use the map and stay away from randoms.

 

even if you're able to stay away from people, what is the fun in that? you sound like a troll like the other idiots in this thread. maybe for you this game is just about shooting a gun at people but for many other players it's not. there's so many other possibilities with this sandbox game, people like you will never get. you'll just reply with play the sims or join an invite lobby, neither of which are relevant solutions to OP's idea.

 

 

How am I a troll exactly? Beacause I gave the OP a solution to his ridiculous question? Try playing the game how it's meant to be played or f**k off into a private session. The game puts a gun in your hand - do you honestly expect other players to not use these - if you don't shoot someone, someone will shoot you. Do you buy CoD and then ask people not to shoot you?

 

You say "people like me" - oh you mean someone who has done everything in the game and spent ages hiding in private sessions? Get clued up before posting total and utter BS next time. Wild assumptions are not the best way forward.

 

You say joining an invite only is not a relevant solution. Hate to break it to you but, as the game currently stand, it is the only solution.

 

 

 

even if you're able to stay away from people, what is the fun in that? you sound like a troll like the other idiots in this thread. maybe for you this game is just about shooting a gun at people but for many other players it's not. there's so many other possibilities with this sandbox game, people like you will never get. you'll just reply with play the sims or join an invite lobby, neither of which are relevant solutions to OP's idea.

so the problem are people playing the game as "intended"...WOW!!!

 

anyway, OP issues can be solved by simply going to the "Find Lobby & Meetups" section of this forum and hook up with like minded player.

 

once everyone is online, join a Invite Only and BAM problem solved, you can do stunt and all the silly stuff you want.

 

 

Non-problem solved.

 

/thread

[XxX19Dude95XxX]

I just remembered why i stopped coming here, but as stonedpimpso said they do need a way to see cash cards for the free updates we keep getting, so how about a lobby where we can't see each other on the mini map, so people just can't seek out other players

[reiniat]

Elite: Dangerous is doing something like this, you can play the game Online for PvE, or with PvP activated, or just singleplayer.

 

The OBVIOUS trick here is that each mode progresses parallel to the others (money, ships, cargo, ranks, etc). And thats it.

[am30]

I just remembered why i stopped coming here, but as stonedpimpso said they do need a way to see cash cards for the free updates we keep getting, so how about a lobby where we can't see each other on the mini map, so people just can't seek out other players

 

This has nothing to do with cash cards in the slightest, especially since the payouts got increased.

[CarimboHanky]

I'll repeat, R*'s original intention with V online was to not have it in the current state it is.

are you sure about this?

 

i mean, dont you think they really knew how this would playout if you give people access to military grade weapons and equipment...

 

the only thing they didnt envision was the billionaires era and the widespread money glitching that allowed people the access to the heavy equipment, thats it.

 

the freeroam wars will happen even if players only have access to the SNS pistol.

[am30]

the freeroam wars will happen even if players only have access to the SNS pistol.

 

 

Exactly! it's all about getting one over on someone else.

[Nick1020]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I disagree. Every time I go into passive mode, some tween or moron always ends up running me over even after I run.GTA 4 had one, and I'm pretty sure it wouldn't hurt for gta online to have one.

 

Edit: messed up my quote.

That's why you use the map and stay away from randoms.

 

even if you're able to stay away from people, what is the fun in that? you sound like a troll like the other idiots in this thread. maybe for you this game is just about shooting a gun at people but for many other players it's not. there's so many other possibilities with this sandbox game, people like you will never get. you'll just reply with play the sims or join an invite lobby, neither of which are relevant solutions to OP's idea.

 

How am I a troll exactly? Beacause I gave the OP a solution to his ridiculous question? Try playing the game how it's meant to be played or f**k off into a private session. The game puts a gun in your hand - do you honestly expect other players to not use these - if you don't shoot someone, someone will shoot you. Do you buy CoD and then ask people not to shoot you?

 

You say "people like me" - oh you mean someone who has done everything in the game and spent ages hiding in private sessions? Get clued up before posting total and utter BS next time. Wild assumptions are not the best way forward.

 

You say joining an invite only is not a relevant solution. Hate to break it to you but, as the game currently stand, it is the only solution.

 

 

 

even if you're able to stay away from people, what is the fun in that? you sound like a troll like the other idiots in this thread. maybe for you this game is just about shooting a gun at people but for many other players it's not. there's so many other possibilities with this sandbox game, people like you will never get. you'll just reply with play the sims or join an invite lobby, neither of which are relevant solutions to OP's idea.

so the problem are people playing the game as "intended"...WOW!!!

 

anyway, OP issues can be solved by simply going to the "Find Lobby & Meetups" section of this forum and hook up with like minded player.

 

once everyone is online, join a Invite Only and BAM problem solved, you can do stunt and all the silly stuff you want.

 

Non-problem solved.

 

/thread

All I can say is it was in gta 4. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't hurt Rockstar to put peaceful lobbies.

[Miss Malevolent]

I'm so glad many of you aren't games devs or work for Rockstar.

 

Just make your suggestion to Rockstar. I'm sure over time when enough people whine about it, they'll implement it. Like every other useless addition they've made.