Definitive Friendly GTAO Mode Thread (Counter-Arguments DEBUNKED)

[splorsh]

 

And then those people can kill you when they join.

 

Still not a valid solution.

And you can kick them or find a new invite/friend only and try again.

 

And my argument against "peace lobbies" is the fracturing of the player base even more. It's just not a good idea to keep a thriving online experience for the majority to appeal to in essence, "control freaks", who long for the GTA4 multiplayer days which sound very boring...in my opinion.

 

 

So people playing invite only isn't fracturing the player base?

 

At least be consistent.

 

 

 

 

 

That you can't meet new people in invite only, is a FACT.

 

That it's much more difficult to get people to join invite only sessions, is a FACT.

 

Etc.

 

So no, my post is not subjective.

Actually you can do the activities and missions in Invite Only sessions. And as long as you don't turn off your match making you will have new players to meet with in that setting whom you can then invite to hang with you in an invite only or friend only freemode session. So it is very possible meet new people in Invite Only sessions. It's honestly the only way I meet new folks to play with.

You can't meet new players in invite only (since you have to know someone to be able to invite them).

 

No idea what you're talking about.

Don't know what console you're on, but mine lets me look at the last fifty I played with.

It's a easy button push to invite them.

Stop acting like a petulant child and use the tools givin to you.

And those last 50 can, and probably will kill you.

 

So yeah.

Or they won't .

Well when you've invented a machine that can guarantee people won't lie and won't kill me on GTA online, I'll be glad to stop requesting a friendly mode.

[Miss Malevolent]

 

So people playing invite only isn't fracturing the player base?

 

At least be consistent.

I am consistent. My point is, it's already fractured enough. Your opinion if implemented would fracture it further. Terrible idea.

[YogurtStorm]

I absolutely love your post and, though I do kill randoms every now and then, I see the fun in having a fun drive around town with a stranger. I kill-on-sight very rarely, but we have to understand that lots of people here just enjoy shooting people. When I approach someone and I get killed, I just hit passive mode and avoid him until he leaves, then I go and honk my horn at the next player to see if he'll honk back or throw a bomb my way.

 

GTA sure is one unpredictable game!

[Dumb guy]

 

 

And then those people can kill you when they join.

 

Still not a valid solution.

 

And you can kick them or find a new invite/friend only and try again.

And my argument against "peace lobbies" is the fracturing of the player base even more. It's just not a good idea to keep a thriving online experience for the majority to appeal to in essence, "control freaks", who long for the GTA4 multiplayer days which sound very boring...in my opinion.

 

So people playing invite only isn't fracturing the player base?

 

At least be consistent.

 

 

 

 

 

That you can't meet new people in invite only, is a FACT.

 

That it's much more difficult to get people to join invite only sessions, is a FACT.

 

Etc.

 

So no, my post is not subjective.

 

Actually you can do the activities and missions in Invite Only sessions. And as long as you don't turn off your match making you will have new players to meet with in that setting whom you can then invite to hang with you in an invite only or friend only freemode session. So it is very possible meet new people in Invite Only sessions. It's honestly the only way I meet new folks to play with.

You can't meet new players in invite only (since you have to know someone to be able to invite them).

 

No idea what you're talking about.

Don't know what console you're on, but mine lets me look at the last fifty I played with.

It's a easy button push to invite them.

Stop acting like a petulant child and use the tools givin to you.

And those last 50 can, and probably will kill you.

 

So yeah.

Or they won't .

 

Well when you've invented a machine that can guarantee people won't lie and won't kill me on GTA online, I'll be glad to stop requesting a friendly mode.

Umm do you even live in the real world?

I can almost hear and see your tears....

Over a video game.

[§†range]

You can never prevent being killed. I will say, when I switch profiles there are all red dots or all white dots. There is ALWAYS someone that will shoot for no reason. Why? Because they have weapons. Solution: Friends, Crews, mics.

 

It changes everything.

[Relative007]

After January 27th.

 

Platforms: PS3,PS4,360,Xbone & PC.

 

Pools: Good Sport, Bad Sport & Cheater's Pool.

 

Aim Modes: Auto Aim, Assisted Aim & Free Aim

 

Session Types: Public, Invite Only, Closed Crew, Friend & Solo

 

Then for the Combo of Platform, Pool & Aiming Mode for Public Sessions (most affected) additional considerations are: Mental State, Player Level, Latency and so on and so forth...

 

Fracturing the player base even further is not the greatest idea.

Edited November 9, 2014 by Relative007

[splorsh]

 

 

So people playing invite only isn't fracturing the player base?

 

At least be consistent.

I am consistent. My point is, it's already fractured enough. Your opinion if implemented would fracture it further. Terrible idea.

 

 

Yeah, it's already fractured between people who want to kill defenseless dudes who are just mucking about, and people who don't even go online any more because of them.

 

You're still wrong. Sorry.

[Miss Malevolent]

Yeah, it's already fractured between people who want to kill defenseless dudes who are just mucking about, and people who don't even go online any more because of them.

 

You're still wrong. Sorry.

Well sorry, that's your opinion. Which is why I say still, " I disagree." Edited November 9, 2014 by Miss Malevolent

[Khada Jhin]

 

 

 

 

So people playing invite only isn't fracturing the player base?

 

At least be consistent.

I am consistent. My point is, it's already fractured enough. Your opinion if implemented would fracture it further. Terrible idea.

 

Yeah, it's already fractured between people who want to kill defenseless dudes who are just mucking about, and people who don't even go online any more because of them.

 

You're still wrong. Sorry.

Hasty generalization, it's obvious there are more than two types of players in GTA:O (the aggressor and the victim). Try again.

[splorsh]

 

Yeah, it's already fractured between people who want to kill defenseless dudes who are just mucking about, and people who don't even go online any more because of them.

 

You're still wrong. Sorry.

Well sorry, that's your opinion. Which is why I say still, " I disagree."

 

 

If I can find a single person who stopped playing GTAO because of dudes killing them nonstop, the thing you've been arguing for the last 15 minutes will be immediately debunked.

 

You can disagree with facts, but you'll be wrong.

[TCMike]

 

 

So people playing invite only isn't fracturing the player base?

 

At least be consistent.

I am consistent. My point is, it's already fractured enough. Your opinion if implemented would fracture it further. Terrible idea.

 

If there was a friendly lobby option, then it would bring together all those players who are in a million invite only lobbies. I know I would use it over invite only anyway. I can only see it bringing people together, not the opposite.

[splorsh]

 

 

 

 

So people playing invite only isn't fracturing the player base?

 

At least be consistent.

I am consistent. My point is, it's already fractured enough. Your opinion if implemented would fracture it further. Terrible idea.

 

Yeah, it's already fractured between people who want to kill defenseless dudes who are just mucking about, and people who don't even go online any more because of them.

 

You're still wrong. Sorry.

Hasty generalization, it's obvious there are more than two types of players in GTA:O (the aggressor and the victim). Try again.

 

 

Straw man, I never said there aren't more groups.

[Miss Malevolent]

If I can find a single person who stopped playing GTAO because of dudes killing them nonstop, the thing you've been arguing for the last 15 minutes will be immediately debunked.

 

You can disagree with facts, but you'll be wrong.

The problem with this statement is that you think you are arguing facts. You aren't. Getting another opinion to cooberate your own opinion doesn't suddenly make it a fact.

 

Sorry.

If there was a friendly lobby option, then it would bring together all those players who are in a million invite only lobbies. I know I would use it over invite only anyway. I can only see it bringing people together, not the opposite.

You do have friend only lobbies which makes this idea superfluous. OP just wants a guarantee he can never be killed by anyone at anytime. Sounds very petulant and given the tone of his first post and subsequent posts...petulant is the right word. Edited November 9, 2014 by Miss Malevolent

[gizz01]

 

And then those people can kill you when they join.

 

Still not a valid solution.

And my argument against "peace lobbies" is the fracturing of the player base even more.

Im sorry, but dont give me that crap, when was the last time you had issues with player numbers, thats bullsh*t,

 

What % of players will be going into these lobbys? Not a huge one, you wouldn't even feel It.. quite the contrary with my idea up above, players would better grouped in lobbys, more action and mayhem, = more players coming to gta to cause some mayhem..

 

The amoumt who would want to play friendly/RP lobbys would be very small in comparison to classic gta, thats why its near impossible to find like minded players, another issue solved under my idea..

 

There are only 2 reasons why people would not want this..

 

1. They are concerned that to many people would rather this way of play and classic gta server would be empty. This would never happen but If that does worry players then maybe their idea that "gta is about killing and mayhem and thats final" is a load of horse sh*t..

 

2. They dont like competitive gameplay, they dont like going up against players that want to kill them and dont mind mixing it up and retaliating to their attacks..

 

They want and need to sealclub players that just want to chill or do somthing other than kill everything that moves, they like killing easy targets and bragging on the forums how elite they are.

 

Now there's a thought heh??

[splorsh]

9 likes on my OP already, but yeah you're right Miss Malevolent, online isn't fractured and allowing people to play in friendly muck about sessions would completely kill GTAO.

[Miss Malevolent]

Im sorry, but dont give me that crap, when was the last time you had issues with player numbers, thats bullsh*t,

Now there's a thought heh??

That's an opinion.

[Ballistic Jello]

Summary of people who are against friendly lobbies:

 

"I want to kill defenseless people who aren't even trying to fight back because I'm terrible at killing people who are."

I believe that is accurate sir. Good OP as well.

 

I cannot see them implementing them because an argument can be made that they could see cash card sales drop.

 

Short answer, blame the entitled who purchase microtransactions.

 

You do have friend only lobbies which makes this idea superfluous.

Sorry, that's BS. Randomly encountering someone else who is interested in nothing but screwing around creates a far different experience than an invite only session with a friend or two.

Edited November 9, 2014 by Ballistic Jello

[YogurtStorm]

For people who say online is already fractured, I think that it doesn't matter all that much. I'm a Free aim player exclusively, for example, but I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything even though I can't play with the 500,000 other Assisted aim players.

 

It's all about being comfortable in your environment or situation, no?

[TheKingChivas]

Oh boy...OP doesn't know what "debunked" means.

 

 

Simple.

 

Join a Crew and played in a Closed Crew or Closed Friend Session.

 

Otherwise, too bad.

 

 

That's what you should do if you want to kill people.

 

Argument debunked.

 

 

See, here's where you have a real problem...you want to play a specific style of game without using the tools to do exactly that. Most people do not just run around killing people...they do a little of everything. That's free mode. If you want anything else, invite only. There's no need for anything else.

 

^to the pic above, most likely that damage was caused by the rider of the bicycle. especially if the car was traveling at a high rate of speed, and judging by where the bicycle landed they probably where. (Don't have to be going fast to take out a cyclist)

 

No sh*t, Sherlock...it was obviously a joke.

 

 

That's not really a discussion, but thanks for posting I guess.

You don't want a discussion outside of people agreeing with you. So, I kept my response brief.

 

 

Well, if anyone makes an argument that isn't already debunked in the op, I'd be glad to hear it.

 

 

You've debunked nothing. Everything you posted was nothing but your opinion and basically playing a big game of "Why don't you???" You only want what you want, so f*ck anyone else's opinions, even though you post it on a f*cking message board. All you wanted was for people to roll out and praise your "brilliant" ideas.

[splorsh]

 

Im sorry, but dont give me that crap, when was the last time you had issues with player numbers, thats bullsh*t,

Now there's a thought heh??

That's an opinion.

 

 

It's your opinion that that's an opinion.

 

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

Edited November 9, 2014 by splorsh

[Miss Malevolent]

9 likes on my OP already, but yeah you're right Miss Malevolent, online isn't fractured and allowing people to play in friendly muck about sessions would completely kill GTAO.

 

It's your opinion that that's an opinion.

 

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

You can play in friendly muck about sessions. They're called friend/invite/crew only lobbies. You don't want that because of the uncertainty of death and lack of control of others. Sounds petulant to me. Edited November 9, 2014 by Miss Malevolent

[don ovdi' island]

9 likes on my OP already, but yeah you're right Miss Malevolent, online isn't fractured and allowing people to play in friendly muck about sessions would completely kill GTAO.

omgggg 9 likes lol.. thread of the year !

[TheKingChivas]

 

 

So you want someone to change your mind?

 

 

That's generally what someone who has been proven wrong by logic is expected to do.

 

 

No one's been proven wrong, and certainly not by logic. Logically, if someone doesn't want other people to shoot them so badly, they'd use passive or invite only (or play something safer, like Sims). Once again, you have all the tools, yet you choose not to use them...not so logical there, son.

 

We all have the tools to play the way we want.

It's up to the end user to utilize them.

Friendly to me means many things. Including killing anything that moves.

If I drop into a lobby where everyone is shopping I find a new one.

Is the concept of making a lobby for how you want to play lost on you OP?

 

"Lost" doesn't even begin to describe OP...agree 100%, DG.

 

 

 

You should be more precise in your language. It is true you can't meet new people in a Invite Only FREEMODE session. But you can meet new people in an Invite Only session by playing the many jobs and activities you listed here. So, yes playing tennis, arm wrestling etc...you can meet new people and not be an open lobby.

 

 

And then those people can kill you when they join.

 

Still not a valid solution.

 

 

And you wonder why you're being called a pussy..

[don ovdi' island]

 

^to the pic above, most likely that damage was caused by the rider of the bicycle. especially if the car was traveling at a high rate of speed, and judging by where the bicycle landed they probably where. (Don't have to be going fast to take out a cyclist)

 

No sh*t, Sherlock...it was obviously a joke.

can't ever tell with the stupidity thats lurking here. anyways were you even in that conversation? i wasn't talking to you.

[§†range]

 

Me in passive mode taking photos.

 

Me in my other crew:

Both can exist simultaneously.

[TheKingChivas]

9 likes on my OP already, but yeah you're right Miss Malevolent, online isn't fractured and allowing people to play in friendly muck about sessions would completely kill GTAO.

 

I think LOL will do for this one.

 

 

 

Im sorry, but dont give me that crap, when was the last time you had issues with player numbers, thats bullsh*t,

Now there's a thought heh??

That's an opinion.

 

 

It's your opinion that that's an opinion.

 

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

 

 

Miss M referred to you as a petulant child and you just proved her correct (again).

 

 

 

^to the pic above, most likely that damage was caused by the rider of the bicycle. especially if the car was traveling at a high rate of speed, and judging by where the bicycle landed they probably where. (Don't have to be going fast to take out a cyclist)

 

No sh*t, Sherlock...it was obviously a joke.

can't ever tell with the stupidity thats lurking here. anyways were you even in that conversation? i wasn't talking to you.

 

 

You were talking to everybody...it's a f*cking message board.

[Headdogg81]

 

 

 

R* allow guns in FR for a reason. They supply us with armor and ammunition. R* want us to fight it out. Your argument OP is

 

 

DEBUNKED

 

 

So the thousands of other things Rockstar spent time and money developing in this sandbox game are not meant to be enjoyed, only the one thing?

 

 

Oh I still enjoy those things very much. I never said anything of the sorts. But I can still enjoy them and shoot you unprovoked simultaneously. Nothing wrong with that.

 

 

Yes, you can enjoy them. The people you are killing cannot.

 

Therefore, you've just argued that you are literally the only person in the game who should be able to enjoy the game.

 

 

Honestly I dont really care if anyone else is enjoying themselves as long as I am. Having said that if I was the only one enjoying it lobbies would empty very quickly and that would hamper my enjoyment. So no, I am not saying I am the only person who should enjoy the game. I also don't have any objection to the idea of a friendly fire off lobby. Its not exactly a new concept though. Had you used the search bar I guarantee you would have found threads about that. What I do have an objection with is you telling me I am playing the game wrong and that your way is the right way. That is not the case. I suggest you carefully study the words "opinion" and "fact". They will be 2 seperate entries in a dictionary for a reason.

[gizz01]

 

Im sorry, but dont give me that crap, when was the last time you had issues with player numbers, thats bullsh*t,

Now there's a thought heh??

That's an opinion.

No its not, its fact, and that isn't an answer to that question either, so come on....... when was the last time you had issues with player numbers?

 

Because there is a guy who just posted above me who plays free aim and insists he has felt no issues with player numbers..

 

Dont hide behind this "opinion" crap, answer the damn question

[TeammateHelper]

How come the passive people are the ones who have to make a compromise? Why not have the shooters go invite only? They can do whatever they want, and invite the last players met. The hell we compromising for them for?

[don ovdi' island]

 

 

 

You were talking to everybody...it's a f*cking message board.

 

actually i specifically was replying "to the pic above" but its whatever, idrgaf