One of the worlds largest offshore wind-farms approved for constructio

[PhillBellic]

I comment the expansion of this wind farm. I only wish federal politicians in Australia had the same attitude.

 

Cheers.

[Panz]

What a waste of resources. Not producing even a fraction of what nuclear has the potential to. If it wasn't for the popular misconceptions about nuclear energy, we wouldn't be discussing these eyesores.

Wind energy is actually much more scalable than nuclear, based on recent news. China put in 4.7 GW of nuclear into operation over four years (2010-2014) vs. 13 GW in wind in just 2013 alone. Even India had 4.2 GW of nuclear power generation after decades while they managed 1.7GW of wind power in one year. Wind power is simply thriving while nuclear is not, and considering the environmental impact that one sleep-deprived human can cause by a mishap at a nuclear power plant, I'm completely okay with this.

[Gay Tony]

But how do they float and stay up like that?

 

They don't float.

 

Windmills go deep, deep into the ground.

 

I'm assuming it's the same thing for water.

[GTA_stu]

*Wind turbines

 

Windmills are what Jonathan Creek and Dutch people live in.

[Killerdude]

If you're wondering, They use these to drive giant metal rods into the bedrock.

 

[Shaundi.]

I comment the expansion of this wind farm. I only wish federal politicians in Australia had the same attitude.

 

Cheers.

Coal is good for humanity

[Guest]

But how do they float and stay up like that?

These ones are the monopile foundation and the tripod foundation.

[universetwisters]

 

What a waste of resources. Not producing even a fraction of what nuclear has the potential to. If it wasn't for the popular misconceptions about nuclear energy, we wouldn't be discussing these eyesores.

Wind energy is actually much more scalable than nuclear, based on recent news. China put in 4.7 GW of nuclear into operation over four years (2010-2014) vs. 13 GW in wind in just 2013 alone. Even India had 4.2 GW of nuclear power generation after decades while they managed 1.7GW of wind power in one year. Wind power is simply thriving while nuclear is not, and considering the environmental impact that one sleep-deprived human can cause by a mishap at a nuclear power plant, I'm completely okay with this.

 

 

This.

 

 

Sure, you'll probably need many, many, many wind turbines or windmills, whatever, to produce enough energy a nuclear power station does on a regular basis. However, considering all the gambles that Nuclear Power itself has, why take them when you could just put up wind turbines/windmills?

[PhillBellic]

 

I comment the expansion of this wind farm. I only wish federal politicians in Australia had the same attitude.

 

Cheers.

Coal is good for humanity

 

Please stop channeling Tony Abbot, Zeus.

 

Cheers.

[sivispacem]

1 I don't think terrorists would care if they die themselves from the radiation

 

They would if it killed the only scientists they had with a technical grounding enough to actually construct such weapons. And for all the reasons above, they don't work.

 

2 The IS has enough money to finance that. I read an article that they have almost two billion Euro

Then why would they waste it building a weapon that's only possible purpose is to cause fairly mild disruption, that's less damaging than an equivalent sized conventional bomb, more costly and less effective than chemical or biological weapons, difficult to transport and just as dangerous to their own people as to their targets? Silly right wing fearmongering.

 

back to topic, nuclear energy is not 100% safe in everyone's hands and I don't see why I must live with that risk.

 

More people die in China annually mining coal than have been killed in accidents in the entire history of civil nuclear power. More people die annually as a result of cancers, lung conditions, toxic heavy metals and other related illnesses from the emissions of fossil fuel power generation than have been killed in the entire history of nuclear power plus every nuclear weapon test, military nuclear programme accident plus both Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Nuclear power is statistically safer than fossil fuel generation. I agree that there are certain circumstances where its use is probably not advisable but as a form of zero emission energy generation in the developed world it's basically unbeatable.

 

Those who defend the use of nuclear power should be denounced as irresponsible.

Or, y'know, might actually have a clue what they're talking about aside from rehashing old NIMBY arguments and CND/Green scaremongering.

 

Panz- China is investing huge amounts in nuclear currently but because of the long timescale of development most of it hasn't yet come to fruition. They're on target for 75+ GW nuclear by 2020, 200 GW by 2030 and 1.5 TW over the next 85 years. The reason for the lack of current capacity expansion is the transition from gen 2 to gen 3 plants because of the 2016 mandate.

[Finn 7 five 11]

 

 

No one can tell me that it was impossible for terrorists to steal enough nuclear waste from somewhere on the world to build a primitve atomic bomb.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/04/world/americas/mexico-radioactive-theft/

 

I can.

To make a bomb, you need highly enriched uranium or plutonium. The conventional nuclear fuel cycle produces neither in usable quantities. Simply put, you can't build a fission device- the basis of all nuclear weapons- from waste or low enriched fissile material.

 

What the f*ck?! do you know literally everything on earth?

If you took a basic chemistry class you would learn this.

Nuclear is so underrated and feared it's ridiculous.

 

Waste isn't even that much of a problem, dump it in a hole in the middle of the Australian desert and you're set.

[Stephan90]

 

 

 

No one can tell me that it was impossible for terrorists to steal enough nuclear waste from somewhere on the world to build a primitve atomic bomb.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/04/world/americas/mexico-radioactive-theft/

I can.

To make a bomb, you need highly enriched uranium or plutonium. The conventional nuclear fuel cycle produces neither in usable quantities. Simply put, you can't build a fission device- the basis of all nuclear weapons- from waste or low enriched fissile material.

What the f*ck?! do you know literally everything on earth?

Waste isn't even that much of a problem, dump it in a hole in the middle of the Australian desert and you're set.

 

 

Can we send all of our radioactive waste to Austrailia?

Edited November 9, 2014 by Stephan90

[161isaiah161]

I guess we should call this place "the boneyard"

Edited November 9, 2014 by Jeone

[Guest]

If anyone's interested hears a map of all the offshore windfarms that are proposed or built or under constitution: Link: http://www.4coffshore.com/offshorewind/

[PhillBellic]

 

 

 

 

No one can tell me that it was impossible for terrorists to steal enough nuclear waste from somewhere on the world to build a primitve atomic bomb.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/04/world/americas/mexico-radioactive-theft/

I can.

To make a bomb, you need highly enriched uranium or plutonium. The conventional nuclear fuel cycle produces neither in usable quantities. Simply put, you can't build a fission device- the basis of all nuclear weapons- from waste or low enriched fissile material.

What the f*ck?! do you know literally everything on earth?

Waste isn't even that much of a problem, dump it in a hole in the middle of the Australian desert and you're set.

 

 

Can we send all of our radioactive waste to Austrailia?

 

WHAT? And make out deadly wildlife more terrorising?!

 

Cheers.

[reiniat]

I f*cking hate Wind Turbines, My home area is just flooded with the damn things, there are a few hundred of them..

 

 

Also, Nuclear is probably the safest, cleanest and most efficient form of energy production, Bar any freak accidents everything will go over fine.

Why are they bad? are they noisy? or they just look ugly? Theres a field near my city in La Ventosa and they do nothing but stand there, silently, catching the wind. And yet the people here hates them too, the commie radio station is saying they cause cancer and stuff.... The people who lives near there are now on a dispute because the plan was to install the wind turbines and leave the land for the "ejidos" (basically a soviet) and instead the govern reclaimed all the land. Problem is, they are not asking their land back they are asking to take down the entire wind field.

Why?

 

Also, im not against nuclear energy, just be warned, sh*t will hit the fan eventually, human errors are unavoidable (and it wont be as terrible as some people make it out to be).

Edited November 10, 2014 by reiniat

[Killerdude]

 

I f*cking hate Wind Turbines, My home area is just flooded with the damn things, there are a few hundred of them..

 

 

Also, Nuclear is probably the safest, cleanest and most efficient form of energy production, Bar any freak accidents everything will go over fine.

Why are they bad? are they noisy? or they just look ugly? Theres a field near my city in La Ventosa and they do nothing but stand there, silently, catching the wind. And yet the people here hates them too, the commie radio station is saying they cause cancer and stuff.... The people who lives near there are now on a dispute because the plan was to install the wind turbines and leave the land for the "ejidos" (basically a soviet) and instead the govern reclaimed all the land. Problem is, they are not asking their land back they are asking to take down the entire wind field.

Why?

 

Also, im not against nuclear energy, just be warned, sh*t will hit the fan eventually, human errors are unavoidable (and it wont be as terrible as some people make it out to be).

 

Massive f*cking eyesores, Also the fact that NONE of the locals are getting any of this power, It's being sold to the US.

So yeah, f*ck wind turbines.

 

If they were all concentrated in a single area, So be it, I'd care less about it, But they aren't, They're scattered all over the place just being in the way.

Edited November 10, 2014 by Killerdude8

[gtamann123]

I don't see how wind turbines are an eyesore. I personally think they are quite beautiful stretching across the prairie as far as the eye can see. I-35 through northern Iowa is a pretty cool place to see this beauty.

 

(Generic stock photo)

 

Edited November 10, 2014 by gtamann123

[PhillBellic]

If anything is an eyesore, it is a massive coal power station, and its associated dirty big hole in the ground. By comparison wind turbines look very elegant.

 

Cheers.

[reiniat]

 

 

I f*cking hate Wind Turbines, My home area is just flooded with the damn things, there are a few hundred of them..

 

 

Also, Nuclear is probably the safest, cleanest and most efficient form of energy production, Bar any freak accidents everything will go over fine.

Why are they bad? are they noisy? or they just look ugly? Theres a field near my city in La Ventosa and they do nothing but stand there, silently, catching the wind. And yet the people here hates them too, the commie radio station is saying they cause cancer and stuff.... The people who lives near there are now on a dispute because the plan was to install the wind turbines and leave the land for the "ejidos" (basically a soviet) and instead the govern reclaimed all the land. Problem is, they are not asking their land back they are asking to take down the entire wind field.

Why?

 

Also, im not against nuclear energy, just be warned, sh*t will hit the fan eventually, human errors are unavoidable (and it wont be as terrible as some people make it out to be).

 

Massive f*cking eyesores, Also the fact that NONE of the locals are getting any of this power, It's being sold to the US.

So yeah, f*ck wind turbines.

 

If they were all concentrated in a single area, So be it, I'd care less about it, But they aren't, They're scattered all over the place just being in the way.

 

Excuse me, but eyesores and scattering is just as stupid as claiming they give you cancer. Thats just silly nonsense.

On the other hand; damn, it sucks when the industry in your country is only there to make other country rich , i know your feel bro.

[Killerdude]

Excuse me, but eyesores and scattering is just as stupid as claiming they give you cancer. Thats just silly nonsense.

 

On the other hand; damn, it sucks when the industry in your country is only there to make other country rich , i know your feel bro.

 

I don't know about you, but I don't want to look at these towering wind turbines, ESPECIALLY if I get nothign from it.

[sivispacem]

The negative impacts of wind turbines are aesthetic and therefore do subjective, rather than the negative impacts of most forms of power generation which are quantifiable. Though it must be said, the overwhelming majority of negatives for nuclear power are largely hypothetical.

[Kampioen]

I like the way they look too. They're sort of a symbol of an advanced society for me, even though there are more advanced and efficient ways of obtaining energy. They just look like something out of a science fiction movie. I think it's cool to see a huge field of wind turbines elegantly producing energy.

[Finn 7 five 11]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No one can tell me that it was impossible for terrorists to steal enough nuclear waste from somewhere on the world to build a primitve atomic bomb.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/04/world/americas/mexico-radioactive-theft/

I can.

To make a bomb, you need highly enriched uranium or plutonium. The conventional nuclear fuel cycle produces neither in usable quantities. Simply put, you can't build a fission device- the basis of all nuclear weapons- from waste or low enriched fissile material.

What the f*ck?! do you know literally everything on earth?

Waste isn't even that much of a problem, dump it in a hole in the middle of the Australian desert and you're set.

 

Can we send all of our radioactive waste to Austrailia?

 

WHAT? And make out deadly wildlife more terrorising?!

 

Cheers

They're actually planning on it, putting them in concrete barrels with some kind of absorber inside, then burying it in a hole, they wanna give the job to aboriginal people to help out. Edited November 11, 2014 by •¿F¡ññ4L¡ƒ£?•