I think I know why R* remastered GTA V

[Dustkiller]

 

Some of you guys are still acting like R* isnt a greedy corporation and you are still expecting good things from them

 

 

They're just a company that exists to make money. Greed doesn't figure.

 

Ok um... f*ck the buyers then, they will get constant fists up their asses?

[gizz01]

We all know that rockstar released a dumbed down version for last gen so people will buy it on there, and then they announced next gen so the same people will buy it again. Double the profit.

What the hell is wrong with you people?

 

Look at the specs of last gen, and look at current gen, how can you expect the same game on a 10 year old hardware? Wtf is wrong with you really? Please explain? You lot are either seriously mentally ill or butt hurt to the point jealousy is sending you insane..

 

R* is releasing a superior version on superior hardware a YEAR........ A YEAR PEOPLE, NOT A WEEK OR A MONTH! A FULL YEAR!! After the initial release..

 

Let me guess you dont have current gen..... yea... grow up..

[am30]

 

 

Some of you guys are still acting like R* isnt a greedy corporation and you are still expecting good things from them

 

 

They're just a company that exists to make money. Greed doesn't figure.

 

Ok um... f*ck the buyers then, they will get constant fists up their asses?

 

 

It's all relative. Rockstar are greedy to us, the consumer, but compared to other companies they're no better or worse.

[Zwenkwiel]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

anyway, ever notice the low payouts, high prices,many money sinks, lack of lobby options etc. ?

 

 

 

These are common aspects to almost all online multiplayer games regardless of payment model.

 

It's more about keeping players playing for longer than anything. The one thing the game needs more than anything is PLAYERS, and if you logged in and there weren't any, your gameplay options would be limited, and you'd probably stop playing.

 

Having constant grinds, goals, money sinks, etc is all to keep players busy, and keep players playing.

 

As for lobby options, I don't see the connection. If it was really to do with cash cards, then they could have easily added a "sandbox" lobby where you can't gain RP or money.

 

 

 

than where the f*ck is my sandbox lobby wiseass?

gta 4 had none of these things and it had the lobby settings

go back to that and no1 would ever play their silly money making simulator or buy a cash card

they'd be too busy having fun in an actual free mode, not this slave wage bullsh*t we've got now.

 

but i'm trough with you idiots, this isn't the first time I've tried to explain this

and it's clear as day to any1 with half a brain

so I guess that's where your lack of comprehension of simple business mechanics stems from

Edited November 8, 2014 by Zwenkwiel

[hercules1975]

 

 

 

Some of you guys are still acting like R* isnt a greedy corporation and you are still expecting good things from them

 

 

They're just a company that exists to make money. Greed doesn't figure.

 

Ok um... f*ck the buyers then, they will get constant fists up their asses?

 

 

It's all relative. Rockstar are greedy to some of us, the consumer, but compared to other companies they're no better or worse.

 

 

Fixed that for you

[reform]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

anyway, ever notice the low payouts, high prices,many money sinks, lack of lobby options etc. ?

 

 

 

These are common aspects to almost all online multiplayer games regardless of payment model.

 

It's more about keeping players playing for longer than anything. The one thing the game needs more than anything is PLAYERS, and if you logged in and there weren't any, your gameplay options would be limited, and you'd probably stop playing.

 

Having constant grinds, goals, money sinks, etc is all to keep players busy, and keep players playing.

 

As for lobby options, I don't see the connection. If it was really to do with cash cards, then they could have easily added a "sandbox" lobby where you can't gain RP or money.

 

 

 

than where the f*ck is my sandbox lobby wiseass?

gta 4 had none of these things and it had the lobby settings

go back to that and no1 would ever play their silly money making simulator or buy a cash card

they'd be too busy having fun in an actual free mode, not this slave wage bullsh*t we've got now.

 

but i'm trough with you idiots, this isn't the first time I've tried to explain this

and it's clear as day to any1 with half a brain

so I guess that's where your lack of comprehension of simple business mechanics stems from

 

You make a compelling argument. Oh wait, no, what's the other thing... Oh yeah, subjective unsubstantiated rhetoric.

[Geisterfaust]

I'm no R* fanboy. They screwed up good o several matters: online launch, cloud saves, cheaters, stability. Release version of GTAV was also heavily bugged. Not unplayable like Online back in october '13, of course. But it's not what important. Game SHOULD be better, there is a room for improvements and fixes, but it's unique open world game.

 

So, to the point: there is nothing bad about new version being released on PS4/XB1. Why is it bad? You're still able to play on older consoles, nothing is shut down, nothing is dumbed down and nothing is decreased.

 

Stop this things with conspiracy theories, really. GTAV was released BEFORE xbox one launch! I know about PS4, but honestly, tell me would you be glad to wait until XB1 version will be out in next 2-3 months? I'm not sure. But I'm sure, that MAJORITY of players will be mad as hell if R* decided to release GTAV on next consoles and skip PS3/XB360. I think, we're dealing with a state of the art game on old consoles. In terms of features, of course, not stability. Example of bad game? Forza Horizon 2 for XB360. This is downscale. This is literally retarded version of bigger game.

 

TL;DR It's nice to have GTAV/Online on both generations.

[hercules1975]

R* is not a non-profit organisation, it does not rely on lottery granted funding or government subsidies to operate.

 

It is a business, which in order to continue to survive must make more money than it spends on it's costs.

 

Therefore, if they don't have anybody buying their products either physical or vitural - they will have more money going out than coming in.

 

Wilkins Micawber, a character from Charles Dicken's novel 'David Copperfield' said this:

"Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen pounds nineteen and six, result happiness.

Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds nought and six, result misery."

[FelipeSCCP]

I would like to believe, but I really think it's because of money. Rockstar is a really good company, but they want to sleep like this as long as they can with GTA V:

 

[Miss Malevolent]

I'm trying to figure out...why video game companies get so much hell for trying to make money?

 

Do you work for free? And if you're not out working now, do you plan on working for free when you get out into the job market (such as it is)?

 

I dunno how many thousands of employees Rockstar has working for them...but bills have got to be paid. And until you can show me their books on how they're not making simply profit but obscene profit...you're simply talking out of your ass in regards to the greed of this corporation.

 

I'm no Rockstar apologist...but the complaints about them have moved from reasoned constructive criticisms into hysterical conspiracy theories.

 

The sky is not falling.

Edited November 8, 2014 by Miss Malevolent

[reform]

I'm trying to figure out...why video game companies get so much hell for trying to make money?

 

Do you work for free? And if you're not out working now, do you plan on working for free when you get out into the job market (such as it is)?

 

I dunno how many thousands of employees Rockstar has working for them...but bills have got to be paid. And until you can show me their books on how they're not making simply profit but obscene profit...you're simply talking out of your ass.

 

I'm no Rockstar apologist...but the complaints about them have moved from reasoned constructive criticisms into hysterical conspiracy theories.

 

The sky is not falling.

 

Yup.

 

And if the sky were to fall, R* would change course sharpish to get the customers back. It's a balance between pleasing the customers and making a profit, and if you get the balance wrong either way, you make zero moneys. Zero. Moneys. Zero.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Moneys..

[Zwenkwiel]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

anyway, ever notice the low payouts, high prices,many money sinks, lack of lobby options etc. ?

 

 

 

These are common aspects to almost all online multiplayer games regardless of payment model.

 

It's more about keeping players playing for longer than anything. The one thing the game needs more than anything is PLAYERS, and if you logged in and there weren't any, your gameplay options would be limited, and you'd probably stop playing.

 

Having constant grinds, goals, money sinks, etc is all to keep players busy, and keep players playing.

 

As for lobby options, I don't see the connection. If it was really to do with cash cards, then they could have easily added a "sandbox" lobby where you can't gain RP or money.

 

 

 

than where the f*ck is my sandbox lobby wiseass?

gta 4 had none of these things and it had the lobby settings

go back to that and no1 would ever play their silly money making simulator or buy a cash card

they'd be too busy having fun in an actual free mode, not this slave wage bullsh*t we've got now.

 

but i'm trough with you idiots, this isn't the first time I've tried to explain this

and it's clear as day to any1 with half a brain

so I guess that's where your lack of comprehension of simple business mechanics stems from

 

You make a compelling argument. Oh wait, no, what's the other thing... Oh yeah, subjective unsubstantiated rhetoric.

 

 

unlike you who has no arguments whatsoever and purely attacks me on a personal level

so yeah you sure told me XD

Edited November 8, 2014 by Zwenkwiel

[hercules1975]

It is a pretty big company, 5 studios/locations in the UK - plus 3 in the USA and 1 in Canada:

 

http://www.rockstargames.com/careers

 

Look at how many jobs they have available, which will only be a small number compared to how many employees they have:

 

http://www.rockstargames.com/careers/openings

[gizz01]

 

 

anyway, ever notice the low payouts, high prices,many money sinks, lack of lobby options etc. ?

 

These are common aspects to almost all online multiplayer games regardless of payment model.

 

It's more about keeping players playing for longer than anything. The one thing the game needs more than anything is PLAYERS, and if you logged in and there weren't any, your gameplay options would be limited, and you'd probably stop playing.

 

Having constant grinds, goals, money sinks, etc is all to keep players busy, and keep players playing.

 

As for lobby options, I don't see the connection. If it was really to do with cash cards, then they could have easily added a "sandbox" lobby where you can't gain RP or money.

 

than where the f*ck is my sandbox lobby wiseass?

 

 

 

 

gta 4 had none of these things and it had the lobby settings

go back to that and no1 would ever play their silly money making simulator or buy a cash card

they'd be too busy having fun in an actual free mode, not this slave wage bullsh*t we've got now.

 

but i'm trough with you idiots, this isn't the first time I've tried to explain this

and it's clear as day to any1 with half a brain

so I guess that's where your lack of comprehension of simple business mechanics stems from

EEEEERRRRR he said "If it was really to do with cash cards, then they could have easily added a "sandbox" lobby where you can't gain RP or money."

 

And your reply is "than where the f*ck is my sandbox lobby wiseass?"

 

You carnt even understand a simple sentence, there is no sandbox were u are not able to earn cash because it NOT ABOUT SELLING CASH CARDS!! Jesus god wtf is wrong with you..

 

BUT.... BUT I do get your point, your not happy with R★ new direction in MP, you would rather the old way, just a server a load of guns and cars and go at it like a load of escaped convicts, and there is nothing wrong with your way of thinking here, the problem is things have changed, its not like that any longer, and your wasting your time jumping up and down about it, ive had, played and loved loads of games that have latter took a direction that I didnt approve of, it hurts no question, but thats just life, you either accept the new way or drop gta and move on to somthing that suits your needs...

 

If you buy a car from any given manufacturer multiple times for any number of years because you like what they offer in terms of quality, room, comfort, and Ll the rest of it but then they turn to making motorcycles, there isnt any point in standing outside screaming, enjoy the last car they made and move on to somthing else that fills your list of requirements...

 

Im sorry I really am, im not being a sarcastic dick here, I mean it, im sorry but things have changed, accept or move on.

[reform]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

anyway, ever notice the low payouts, high prices,many money sinks, lack of lobby options etc. ?

 

 

 

These are common aspects to almost all online multiplayer games regardless of payment model.

 

It's more about keeping players playing for longer than anything. The one thing the game needs more than anything is PLAYERS, and if you logged in and there weren't any, your gameplay options would be limited, and you'd probably stop playing.

 

Having constant grinds, goals, money sinks, etc is all to keep players busy, and keep players playing.

 

As for lobby options, I don't see the connection. If it was really to do with cash cards, then they could have easily added a "sandbox" lobby where you can't gain RP or money.

 

 

 

than where the f*ck is my sandbox lobby wiseass?

gta 4 had none of these things and it had the lobby settings

go back to that and no1 would ever play their silly money making simulator or buy a cash card

they'd be too busy having fun in an actual free mode, not this slave wage bullsh*t we've got now.

 

but i'm trough with you idiots, this isn't the first time I've tried to explain this

and it's clear as day to any1 with half a brain

so I guess that's where your lack of comprehension of simple business mechanics stems from

 

You make a compelling argument. Oh wait, no, what's the other thing... Oh yeah, subjective unsubstantiated rhetoric.

 

 

unlike you who has no arguments whatsoever and purely attacks me on a personal level

so yeah you sure told me XD

 

 

I thought you were "through with us idiots"? Who attacked who "on a personal level" there exactly?

 

As for me making no arguments whatsoever. Ah, you got me there. There's certainly no arguments in any of that large quote containing several arguments which you just quoted.

Edited November 8, 2014 by reform

[gizz01]

 

 

 

 

 

anyway, ever notice the low payouts, high prices,many money sinks, lack of lobby options etc. ?

 

These are common aspects to almost all online multiplayer games regardless of payment model.

 

It's more about keeping players playing for longer than anything. The one thing the game needs more than anything is PLAYERS, and if you logged in and there weren't any, your gameplay options would be limited, and you'd probably stop playing.

 

Having constant grinds, goals, money sinks, etc is all to keep players busy, and keep players playing.

 

As for lobby options, I don't see the connection. If it was really to do with cash cards, then they could have easily added a "sandbox" lobby where you can't gain RP or money.

 

than where the f*ck is my sandbox lobby wiseass?

gta 4 had none of these things and it had the lobby settings

go back to that and no1 would ever play their silly money making simulator or buy a cash card

they'd be too busy having fun in an actual free mode, not this slave wage bullsh*t we've got now.

 

but i'm trough with you idiots, this isn't the first time I've tried to explain this

and it's clear as day to any1 with half a brain

so I guess that's where your lack of comprehension of simple business mechanics stems from

 

You make a compelling argument. Oh wait, no, what's the other thing... Oh yeah, subjective unsubstantiated rhetoric.

 

unlike you who has no arguments whatsoever and purely attacks me on a personal level

so yeah you sure told me XD

 

I thought you were "through with us idiots"? Who attacked who "on a personal level" there exactly?

 

As for me making no arguments whatsoever. Ah, you got me there. There's certainly no arguments in any of that large quote containing several arguments which you just quoted.

I dont kno2 why your backing down to him here because your post was right and made sense, he just twisted it..

[reform]

 

 

 

 

 

 

These are common aspects to almost all online multiplayer games regardless of payment model.

 

It's more about keeping players playing for longer than anything. The one thing the game needs more than anything is PLAYERS, and if you logged in and there weren't any, your gameplay options would be limited, and you'd probably stop playing.

 

Having constant grinds, goals, money sinks, etc is all to keep players busy, and keep players playing.

 

As for lobby options, I don't see the connection. If it was really to do with cash cards, then they could have easily added a "sandbox" lobby where you can't gain RP or money.

than where the f*ck is my sandbox lobby wiseass?

gta 4 had none of these things and it had the lobby settings

go back to that and no1 would ever play their silly money making simulator or buy a cash card

they'd be too busy having fun in an actual free mode, not this slave wage bullsh*t we've got now.

 

but i'm trough with you idiots, this isn't the first time I've tried to explain this

and it's clear as day to any1 with half a brain

so I guess that's where your lack of comprehension of simple business mechanics stems from

You make a compelling argument. Oh wait, no, what's the other thing... Oh yeah, subjective unsubstantiated rhetoric.

unlike you who has no arguments whatsoever and purely attacks me on a personal level

so yeah you sure told me XD

I thought you were "through with us idiots"? Who attacked who "on a personal level" there exactly?

 

As for me making no arguments whatsoever. Ah, you got me there. There's certainly no arguments in any of that large quote containing several arguments which you just quoted.

I dont kno2 why your backing down to him here because your post was right and made sense, he just twisted it..

 

I know dude, I'm doing my irony bit.

Edited November 8, 2014 by reform

[gizz01]

I know dude, I'm doing my irony bit.

LOL!

[DBrasco]

It's getting repetative if they would continue to cycle between Los Angeles (Los Santos), New York (liberty City) and perhaps Miami (Vice City). Chicago has already been done for Watch Dogs and I very much doubt the next GTA would take place outside of the United States. So it's getting time for them to combine all their previous titles together. That's just the next step. I think OP has made the right prediction. It's only logical for Rockstar to continue to build on GTA Online and expand the map further in the years to come.

Edited November 8, 2014 by DBrasco

[Dave Rizza]

Of course it's all about the money. Why else did Rockstar release it on current gen first when they could have easily have released it on next gen only? Now it's coming out on next gen Rockstar will get a double whammy. How do they make sure they get decent sales on the next gen version - make the current version look as crappy as possible and lie about "console limitations". Besides, the game is not remastered, it's just been ported for next gen. Anyone else buy the supposedly remastered San Andreas? That was just a scaled up IOS version of the game - remamstereed my ass!

 

 

 

Anyone that thinks this current gen release is to simply claw more money from you, I feel sorry for you..

 

The gta franchise is the most exciting thing to kick off this year... I carnt wait to see wnat these guys do..

 

Either way your entitled your opinion, you go play cod/mw/ac anything from EA... we are happy over here, dont you let R* have another dime of your money...

 

Byyyyeeeeee

 

Anyone who thinks Rockstar - or any other business - isn't in it for the money, has to be either 12 years old or mentally disabled.

 

Rockstar is porting the game to the new consoles because they can do it without spending a ton of money on new development, thus increasing their profit margin. They will continue to milk GTA V as long as there are profits to be made, and will then move on. A devoted base of fan boys willing to plop down 60 bucks of their mother's money is profitable right now, but we'll see what happens when they run the numbers a year from now.

 

 

This.

I bought the remastered version of san Andreas. It was like 3 quid. Less than the price of ten smokes. I had the original xbox version and have played it a few times and would have bought it for android but i tried it first ( through non conventional ) means and couldnt play it with touchscreen controls. So yes i bought the upscaled version and dont regret it one bit

[Dustkiller]

 

 

 

Some of you guys are still acting like R* isnt a greedy corporation and you are still expecting good things from them

 

 

They're just a company that exists to make money. Greed doesn't figure.

 

Ok um... f*ck the buyers then, they will get constant fists up their asses?

 

 

It's all relative. Rockstar are greedy to us, the consumer, but compared to other companies they're no better or worse.

 

you ass is full of truth

[richard1997jones]

Yeah I think rockstar will stick with GTA V for a while. They could go 5 years before doing another gta map. This happened with IV. They made IV then ballad and lost. They might make another game but with diffrent charecters but on the same map and a new storyline and allow us to use our online charecter between the both online games.

[luisniko]

It's all about 'Balance' and some people just don't get it.

 

LOL.

[Zwenkwiel]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

anyway, ever notice the low payouts, high prices,many money sinks, lack of lobby options etc. ?

 

 

 

These are common aspects to almost all online multiplayer games regardless of payment model.

 

It's more about keeping players playing for longer than anything. The one thing the game needs more than anything is PLAYERS, and if you logged in and there weren't any, your gameplay options would be limited, and you'd probably stop playing.

 

Having constant grinds, goals, money sinks, etc is all to keep players busy, and keep players playing.

 

As for lobby options, I don't see the connection. If it was really to do with cash cards, then they could have easily added a "sandbox" lobby where you can't gain RP or money.

 

 

 

than where the f*ck is my sandbox lobby wiseass?

gta 4 had none of these things and it had the lobby settings

go back to that and no1 would ever play their silly money making simulator or buy a cash card

they'd be too busy having fun in an actual free mode, not this slave wage bullsh*t we've got now.

 

but i'm trough with you idiots, this isn't the first time I've tried to explain this

and it's clear as day to any1 with half a brain

so I guess that's where your lack of comprehension of simple business mechanics stems from

 

You make a compelling argument. Oh wait, no, what's the other thing... Oh yeah, subjective unsubstantiated rhetoric.

 

 

unlike you who has no arguments whatsoever and purely attacks me on a personal level

so yeah you sure told me XD

 

 

I thought you were "through with us idiots"? Who attacked who "on a personal level" there exactly?

 

As for me making no arguments whatsoever. Ah, you got me there. There's certainly no arguments in any of that large quote containing several arguments which you just quoted.

 

 

I am trough with you idiots

I just don't have anything better to do XD

 

basically what you're trying to say is that cash cards do not affect anything in this game and since buying them is optional people who do not buy them are in no way affected by their existence.

which is just downright stupid and I don't know how I could explain it so you would understand (since there's obviously a few crossed wires or something)

but I'll try just one more time, educate the ignorant masses and all that XD

 

R* adds microtransactions and than finetunes the game in order to sell the most possible, altering a lot of game aspects, negatively IMO

how any1 could possibly deny this is beyond me

it's like saying R* does not want to make money.

and no i'm not saying R* should not make money, I'm saying the way they went about it negatively influences the game in a lot of areas

such as (but not limited to) effort vs reward ratio, restrictive lobbies with no options whatsoever and just various money sinks and other mechanics to make us waste money.

 

that will be all

class dismissed

(for real this time)

Edited November 9, 2014 by Zwenkwiel

[waters]

As a GTA fan, I can safely say that I will not want San andreas in the next instalment, I think by then it will have been played to death

 

Edit: it's always about money at the end of the day

Edited November 9, 2014 by waters

[Trevingit]

The whole world revolves around money, if they didnt make so much money from previous games we wouldn't of had the quality we see today. Look how far we have come from gta1, that has all come from making lots of money so it baffles me as to why your so against rockstar and its profitable gains.

[Furry_Monkey]

R* adds microtransactions and than finetunes the game in order to sell the most possible, altering a lot of game aspects, negatively IMO

how any1 could possibly deny this is beyond me

 

 

Eh? You try to come across as clever and "educating the masses", but you can't even explain any of your concepts clearly.

 

If so many people aren't understanding what you're saying, then maybe the problem isn't them.

 

That post was utter gibberish, as usual.

[Zwenkwiel]

 

R* adds microtransactions and than finetunes the game in order to sell the most possible, altering a lot of game aspects, negatively IMO

how any1 could possibly deny this is beyond me

 

 

Eh? You try to come across as clever and "educating the masses", but you can't even explain any of your concepts clearly.

 

If so many people aren't understanding what you're saying, then maybe the problem isn't them.

 

That post was utter gibberish, as usual.

 

haha thanks for chiming in

always love to hear from you

especially in depth posts adressing what I said

oh wait... XD

 

let's try this again step by step so you slow folks can follow

lets start by answering this simple yes/no qeustion

cash cards, do they impact the way this game was designed?

yes or no answer please

Edited November 9, 2014 by Zwenkwiel

[ScrewThePooch]

 

 

 

 

R* adds microtransactions and than finetunes the game in order to sell the most possible, altering a lot of game aspects, negatively IMO

how any1 could possibly deny this is beyond me

 

Eh? You try to come across as clever and "educating the masses", but you can't even explain any of your concepts clearly.

 

If so many people aren't understanding what you're saying, then maybe the problem isn't them.

 

That post was utter gibberish, as usual.

 

haha thanks for chiming in

always love to hear from you

especially in depth posts adressing what I said

oh wait... XD

 

let's try this again step by step so you slow folks can follow

lets start by answering this simple yes/no qeustion

cash cards, do they impact the way this game was designed?

yes or no answer please

No. Now please stop being a tit

[Zwenkwiel]

 

 

 

R* adds microtransactions and than finetunes the game in order to sell the most possible, altering a lot of game aspects, negatively IMO

how any1 could possibly deny this is beyond me

 

Eh? You try to come across as clever and "educating the masses", but you can't even explain any of your concepts clearly.

 

If so many people aren't understanding what you're saying, then maybe the problem isn't them.

 

That post was utter gibberish, as usual.

 

haha thanks for chiming in

always love to hear from you

especially in depth posts adressing what I said

oh wait... XD

 

let's try this again step by step so you slow folks can follow

lets start by answering this simple yes/no qeustion

cash cards, do they impact the way this game was designed?

yes or no answer please

No. Now please stop being a tit

 

 

haha this is just too much

so you really are saying R* is not interested in making money?

they would introduce a new monetization model into this series without giving it any thought during the design process of the game?

R* does not want to sell cash cards?

is that what you're trying to say?

 

cuz I knew you people were missing a step somewhere but to not comprehend such a basic business concept is just downright retarded

and yes I literally mean having an extra chromosome retarded

Edited November 9, 2014 by Zwenkwiel