V PC to use Denuvo DRM

[VIPΣR]

 

If we get these sh*tty DRMS it's not R*'s fault but of the guys who crack games and those who support these cracks.

 

DRM is never a solution, it's the problem.

 

This is definitely not the way it should be done.

 

If people didn't crack games/software, we would never had this DRM crap. I do agree, it definitely isn't the way it should be done but how should it be done then? I don't see another option.

Edited November 6, 2014 by VIPΣR

[Tuskin38]

You will definitely need steam, even for the retail version. Ash knew/predicted it.

We don't know that yet. If the boxed version used Steam, I'm pretty sure it would say so on Rockstar Warehouse.

 

Max Payne 3 and I believe LA Noire did not use Steam on their Retail copies.

Edited November 6, 2014 by Tuskin38

[SilverRST]

 

YES! Lords of The Fallen is still not cracked yet.

but skidrow said : Soon cracked

 

I want Skidrow to abandon that sh*tty Lords of The Sh*theads and start cracking GTAV. No, not GTAO but only to provide modding and trainers. That's all I want.

[Coolstream]

Ash warned you guys.

 

That's all. (:

 

Can I get banned too? (plsdont)It seems only banned people's posts are remembered.

Edited November 6, 2014 by Coolstream

[Njale]

 

Lol, you think THIS will stop piracy? That's hilarious.

Lords of the Fallen and Fifa 15 who both use Denuvo remain uncracked.

 

 

The difference is those game are not nearly as popular as GTA V, the question is not if, it's when, remember this is only hurting the players who bought the game and nobody else.

[VIPΣR]

 

You will definitely need steam, even for the retail version. Ash knew/predicted it.

We don't know that yet. If the boxed version used Steam, I'm pretty sure it would say so on Rockstar Warehouse.

 

Max Payne 3 and I believe LA Noire did not use Steam on their Retail copies.

 

But those games aren't as popular as GTA, people tend to download cracked versions far more often, if it is a popular game.

Edited November 6, 2014 by VIPΣR

[DaRkL3AD3R]

I could probably live without the mods, now that first person is in the game and done damn good. It would suck, but it'd be doable. I played GTA IV almost 99% modless, and the only mod I did really use was first person mod with a blood texture mod. Hate ENBad and with GTA V's massive engine upgrade, there is literally 0 reason for me to worry about modding the graphics.

 

What I can't live with is the idea that DRM is taking away game performance from my hardware. That is NOT cool.

[CarpeDemon]

This Denuvo DRM only f*cks over people that actually buy the game. R* is going to feel pretty stupid once smart people find a way to crack this.

[DlZZEE]

 

YES! Lords of The Fallen is still not cracked yet.

Skidrow said : crack coming soon

 

Scene groups never announce anything, it's a phony site which rips off other releases.

[Njale]

 

 

If we get these sh*tty DRMS it's not R*'s fault but of the guys who crack games and those who support these cracks.

 

DRM is never a solution, it's the problem.

 

This is definitely not the way it should be done.

 

If people didn't crack games/software, we would never had this DRM crap. I do agree, it definitely isn't the way it should be done but how should it be done then? I don't see another option.

 

 

Look at "CD Projekt" ( guys behind witches games ) they don't use any kind of DRM on their games, because they understand something others clearly don't, treating your customers well equals more profit. You can't stop pirates, best solution is to ignore them and try to create the best product you can, people will and are recognising that.

[Spider-Vice]

Here's the thing about the whole "it'll only prevent mods for online" notion:

 

GTA V and GTA O are both tightly knitted together as one running program. There is no GTAO only exe, and there is no GTA V single player only exe. You launch them both as one and the same.

 

The world data cannot be split into two. You are still using the same world as you are in single player as you are online. Modifying the single player will directly affect the online.

 

 

It seriously looks bad for modding GTA V in the future. Not good.

Such ignorance about programming, you can have two different exe's for different parts of the game that require different parts of data to load. They could change the Online tihng with PC. Come on, your negativity is starting to be near troll-like.

 

I doubt it's going to be as bad as it seems. Rockstar has said with IV that they indeed despised stuff like GFWL, and MP3 didn't have intrusive DRM at all, Rockstar may make bad decisions but they aren't dumb.

Edited November 7, 2014 by Spider-Vice

[Phil Cassidy7]

This Denuvo DRM only f*cks over people that actually buy the game. R* is going to feel pretty stupid once smart people find a way to crack this.

They are gonna do the great The witcher 2 move, release a patch that nullifies the DRM

[VIPΣR]

I need to take a brake of this depressing, dreams destroying, ugly, bad news. Seriously...why do the ones who bought the games always get screwed, I'm tired of this bullsh*t.

 

This Denuvo DRM only f*cks over people that actually buy the game. R* is going to feel pretty stupid once smart people find a way to crack this.

They are gonna do the great The witcher 2 move, release a patch that nullifies the DRM

 

When they realise the game got cracked within 24 hours.

 

That was a smart move by CD Projekt, I respect them for that.

Edited November 7, 2014 by VIPΣR

[S1LV3R_W0LF]

Well if they do this and there is no way to crack it, I hope I can make a full game install that doesn't require the DVD like IV, after a while I had to get a No DVD Crack for my game because the DVD was being overused, I kept it in the drive for some time till I realize it wasn't making any good to it, so I got a crack which I could play my game without using the DVD.

So as long as Rockstar allows to play the game without using the DVD over and over, they can bring whatever they want, if they don't ruin my game experience if they're whatever system check doesn't prevent me from playing if for some reason their server goes down.

A way or another I don't think this will be much different then STARFORCE headache was, it was for some time and then it as useless as any other.

Although GTAO should be more then a good reason for people to buy the game, otherwise they'll miss a lot of the experience.

[Phil Cassidy7]

I need to take a brake of this depressing, dreams destroying, ugly, bad news. Seriously...why do the ones who bought the games always get screwed, I'm tired of this bullsh*t.

 

This Denuvo DRM only f*cks over people that actually buy the game. R* is going to feel pretty stupid once smart people find a way to crack this.

They are gonna do the great The witcher 2 move, release a patch that nullifies the DRM

 

When they realise the game got cracked within 24 hours.

 

That was a smart move by CD Projekt, I respect them for that.

I do too, they even learned: http://en.cdprojektred.com/news/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-16-free-dlcs-for-everyone-2/

 

I might be buying the witcher 3 via GoG if it's possible, so almost all the money goes to them.

Edited November 7, 2014 by Loveint

[Lowi]

 

516 user(s) are reading this topic

 

18 members, 497 guests, 1 anonymous users

 

 

 

wat, 497 guests?

 

[Dx2words]

How do you guys even know it's that bad? Stop f*cking lying. Be happy it's not on GFWL.

 

How do you guys even know it's that bad? Stop f*cking lying. Be happy it's not on GFWL.

 

AMEN to that

[Spider-Vice]

516 user(s) are reading this topic

18 members, 497 guests, 1 anonymous users

wat, 497 guests?

 

Huh, indeed weird. Probably a glitch or simply load-testing by adding fake guests.

[ZZCOOL]

what ash said about this

 

[01:03:08] ASH: I like how mostly everything I said about GTAV has come true

[01:03:16] ASH: The specs for the console versions I was told

[01:03:18] ASH: all true

[01:03:26] ASH: and now the PC DRM that wants to screw people over

[01:03:29] ASH: now being true

but yeah if this happens then i see a few possible futures for gta all old time gta fans like me will leave gta will slowly but steadily become free to play dlcs will release often i will play the game for a few weeks maybe months then never look back

a sad ending if thats true also an ending to my channel aswell

[BlackNoise]

Really? People WILL crack your game. This just makes it more annoying for people who purchase the game.

 

 

 

516 user(s) are reading this topic

18 members, 497 guests, 1 anonymous users

wat, 497 guests?

 

Huh, indeed weird. Probably a glitch or simply load-testing by adding fake guests.

 

 

Go to google and type "GTA V drm". It's probably actual guests.

[Phil Cassidy7]

Well the news are coming, at least this one gives credit to GTAforums

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/11/06/grand-theft-auto-v-pc-version-to-use-denuvo-drm-on-top-of-steam/

(Is this going to be like the rumor of the First Person View...?)

[Spider-Vice]

Really? People WILL crack your game. This just makes it more annoying for people who purchase the game.

 

 

 

516 user(s) are reading this topic

18 members, 497 guests, 1 anonymous users

wat, 497 guests?

 

Huh, indeed weird. Probably a glitch or simply load-testing by adding fake guests.

 

 

Go to google and type "GTA V drm". It's probably actual guests.

I guess it got indexed fast, makes sense. Even Facebook was indexing this thread earlier.

[DaRkL3AD3R]

Such ignorance about programming, you can have two different exe's for different parts of the game that require different parts of data to load. They could change the Online tihng with PC. Come on, your negativity is starting to be near troll-like.

 

 

 

I doubt it's going to be as bad as it seems. Rockstar has said with IV that they indeed despised stuff like GFWL, and MP3 didn't have intrusive DRM at all, Rockstar may make bad decisions but they aren't dumb.

 

And you should seriously know better. The most critical change to GTA V was the addition of multiple characters and the way you change from single player to multiplayer. It is all one world, one process. How can you not see this?

 

Yes I am begin negative, but I am also being realistic. I don't know how anyone could see how GTA V and GTAO work and not expect it to be one process...

[Spider-Vice]

 

Such ignorance about programming, you can have two different exe's for different parts of the game that require different parts of data to load. They could change the Online tihng with PC. Come on, your negativity is starting to be near troll-like.

 

 

 

I doubt it's going to be as bad as it seems. Rockstar has said with IV that they indeed despised stuff like GFWL, and MP3 didn't have intrusive DRM at all, Rockstar may make bad decisions but they aren't dumb.

 

And you should seriously know better. The most critical change to GTA V was the addition of multiple characters and the way you change from single player to multiplayer. It is all one world, one process. How can you not see this?

 

Yes I am begin negative, but I am also being realistic. I don't know how anyone could see how GTA V and GTAO work and not expect it to be one process...

 

I recognise I was wrong about the seamless switching part, I had forgotten, but really, nothing stops Rockstar from implementing some kind of new system, I don't know. You may think whatever you want of them, but they really don't shoot themselves in the foot as much as you think. It's all speculation until we actually reach the 27th of January.

[SilverRST]

Lets go on a internet rampage hunting down any gaming news sites to tell them don't buy GTAV PC because of CurseRM.

Edited November 7, 2014 by SilverRST

[DaRkL3AD3R]

I recognise I was wrong about the seamless switching part, I had forgotten, but really, nothing stops Rockstar from implementing some kind of new system, I don't know. You may think whatever you want of them, but they really don't shoot themselves in the foot as much as you think. It's all speculation until we actually reach the 27th of January.

 

I will toss out one shred of optimism. Rockstar's official stance on GTAO is that they want it to be it's own standalone package in the future, almost like an MMO that you buy into through GTA V right now. So they package it together as of today because it uses all the same assets and it flows well with the character wheel. But in the long off future they might be separate entities and there will be a game listing just called Grand Theft Auto Online. But honestly, for January 27th and for GTA V on PC, I am not expecting this to be the case.

 

It really is all speculation right now. And whenever it comes down to this type of uncertainty I always er to the side of caution and pessimism as it drastically reduces the feeling of disappointment when things take a turn for the worst.

 

Christ, listen to me go on about this like it's a family member dying of cancer. It's a f*cking video game. We are all sick in the head lol

[BunnyBoy21]

I could care less about the DRM as long as modding is as easy as it was on SA and IV

[CarpeDemon]

So if this ends up happening GTA V is going to have 3 layers of DRM: Steam, RSC and Denuvo. I can't wait.

 

Edit: So apperently the Rockstar logo has been there longer than today. And the guys that worked on Denuvo also worked on SecuROM.

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20140517195428/http://denuvo.com/

Edited November 7, 2014 by SuperHolySheep

[ZZCOOL]

I could care less about the DRM as long as modding is as easy as it was on SA and IV

in a year or so maybe 1.5 years

[r34ld34l]

I wouldn't be worried about it. I will get Steam version anyway, but a lot of groups/guys will join the hunt for cracking it down after this news.

I'm not sure of this DRM works, but if there is offline thing, then it shouldn't be too hard. It can be hard when someone needs to emulate server...
But mods, those will be missed if they f*ck it up with this DRM.

Edited November 7, 2014 by r34ld34l