Russian Mafia 138 Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Hi guys got some news for PC players. Rockstar will use new DRM system in GTA 5 for PC. This system is Denuvo, which also used in FIFA 15 and Lords of the Fallen. This System uses special code which changes every time so this DRM is still not hacked, and I think it wont be. No more piracy on PC and only way you can play GTA 5 its Steam. Got this info today. Also today Denuvo updated partners on their site. Rockstar now here too. So its confirmed. Site http://www.denuvo.com I think it is good they fight piracy, but Denuvo is very hard DRM and some people can have crashes or another issues like in Lords of the Fallen. What are you think? Edited November 6, 2014 by Russian Mafia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evan-KCR 2,666 Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Hi guys got some news for PC players. Rockstar will use new DRM system in GTA 5 for PC. This system is Denuvo, which also used in FIFA 15 and Lords of the Fallen. This System uses special code which changes every time so this DRM is still not hacked, and I think it wont be. No more piracy on PC and only way you can play GTA 5 its Steam. Got this info today. Also today Denuvo updated partners on their site. Rockstar now here too. So its confirmed. Site http://www.denuvo.com I think it is good they fight piracy, but Denuvo is very hard DRM and some people can have crashes or another issues like in Lords in the Fallen. What are you think? WHAT?!!! But... no... No. Wait... is this required once you play the game? Edited November 6, 2014 by Evan-KCR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Cassidy7 340 Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Hi guys got some news for PC players. Rockstar will use new DRM system in GTA 5 for PC. This system is Denuvo, which also used in FIFA 15 and Lords of the Fallen. This System uses special code which changes every time so this DRM is still not hacked, and I think it wont be. No more piracy on PC and only way you can play GTA 5 its Steam. Got this info today. Also today Denuvo updated partners on their site. Rockstar now here too. So its confirmed. Site http://www.denuvo.com I think it is good they fight piracy, but Denuvo is very hard DRM and some people can have crashes or another issues like in Lords of the Fallen. What are you think? As long as it doesn't ruin the experience, it's good, I bought none of those games so i don't know how it works. Although never underestimate pirates, didn't Fifa 14 had the same? and it got hacked too, it just took longer. Edited November 6, 2014 by Loveint Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evan-KCR 2,666 Posted November 6, 2014 Yeah... is it like Uplay, or Origin? Or does it only require activation...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fefenc 2,624 Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) DRMs are only worthy to annoy who buys original games because someone will manage to crack it within days and play it as it's meant to be played, without requiring internet connection bullsh*t. Now I'm in doubt if I'll pay to be annoyed by a stupid DRM while pirate users plays the game as it's meant to be played. This sh*t will be the new GFWL and it can make the game unmoddable. R* showing to us, the PC community, their hate and their middle finger again. EDIT: To they do the last blow against us, they only need to say that GTA V PC will be powered by NVADIA Edited November 6, 2014 by fefenc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evan-KCR 2,666 Posted November 6, 2014 F*ck. I just hope this will work well with mods... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zer0w5 861 Posted November 6, 2014 Russian Mafia if what you're saying is true then the scene has a competition who can crack it faster. But I'll still buy it on Steam full price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Russian Mafia 138 Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Hi guys got some news for PC players. Rockstar will use new DRM system in GTA 5 for PC. This system is Denuvo, which also used in FIFA 15 and Lords of the Fallen. This System uses special code which changes every time so this DRM is still not hacked, and I think it wont be. No more piracy on PC and only way you can play GTA 5 its Steam. Got this info today. Also today Denuvo updated partners on their site. Rockstar now here too. So its confirmed. Site http://www.denuvo.com I think it is good they fight piracy, but Denuvo is very hard DRM and some people can have crashes or another issues like in Lords of the Fallen. What are you think? As long as it doesn't ruin the experience, it's good, I bought none of those games so i don't know how it works. Although never underestimate pirates, didn't Fifa 14 had the same? and it got hacked too, it just took longer.No. Fifa 14 don't have Denuvo, because Denuvo was created not much ago and as you can see all rich companies uses it now.Denuvo cant be hacked also, because all game code have DRM which changes everytime. Im 100% sure it will not be hacked. Rockstar will not accept GTA 4 situation and they will do everything to push PC sales. Edited November 6, 2014 by Russian Mafia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evan-KCR 2,666 Posted November 6, 2014 But does anybody know how this works? Since Russian Mafia is ignoring us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Breitsmeister 141 Posted November 6, 2014 DRMs are only worthy to annoy who buys original games because someone will manage to crack it within days and play it as it's meant to be played, without requiring internet connection bullsh*t. Now I'm in doubt if I'll pay to be annoyed by a stupid DRM while pirate users plays the game as it's meant to be played. This sh*t will be the new GFWL and it can make the game unmoddable. R* showing to us, the PC community, their hate and their middle finger again. what if denuvo is just a guard for preventing hackers that will crack the game and they use steam workshop for the mods we can make Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fefenc 2,624 Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Yeah I know how it works. You will find a lot of difficulty to play the game due to the new GFWL while people that haven't supported the game will play it without crashes and internet problems related to the new GFWL. Some companies never learns how PC works: DLC = Not much sales and low rate on their precious IGN. Edited November 6, 2014 by fefenc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evan-KCR 2,666 Posted November 6, 2014 Yeah I know how it works. You will find a lot of difficulty to play the game due to the new GFWL while people that haven't supported the game will play it without crash and internet problems. Some companies never learns how PC works: DLC = Not much sales. Stop being so negative FFS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deissp 1,064 Posted November 6, 2014 As long as I can just install the game on Steam and click "Play" and get launched straight into the game, I'm happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Breitsmeister 141 Posted November 6, 2014 steam is a good platform for releasing new games it wont be that bad as you're telling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris194 245 Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) No. Fifa 14 don't have Denuvo, because Denuvo was created not much ago and as you can see all rich companies uses it now.Denuvo cant be hacked also, because all game code have DRM which changes everytime. Im 100% sure it will not be hacked. Rockstar will not accept GTA 4 situation and they will do everything to push PC sales. You're wrong, it had Denuvo protection system. Quote from their site 46 days. That’s how long the latest Denuvo-protected EA game (FIFA 14) lasted before being cracked. That’s simply unprecedented and it’s a testament to one of Denuvo’s core principles: always keep innovating. Our latest innovation, Denuvo Anti-Tamper, allows EA to reap the benefits of stamping out all piracy attempts in the crucial first weeks of a title’s release. We’d love to do the same for you. Denuvo Anti-tamper and SecuROM can be ordered through our close partnership with Sony DADC. Edited November 6, 2014 by Kris194 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarshallRawR 1,660 Posted November 6, 2014 Impossible to crack? Doubt it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fefenc 2,624 Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Yeah I know how it works. You will find a lot of difficulty to play the game due to the new GFWL while people that haven't supported the game will play it without crash and internet problems. Some companies never learns how PC works: DLC = Not much sales. Stop being so negative FFS. I'm not being negative, I'm being realistic. I've seen where this DRM bullsh*t goes a lot of times. EDIT: Simcity 2013 Edited November 6, 2014 by fefenc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evan-KCR 2,666 Posted November 6, 2014 I'm curious. Does anybody here have FIFA 15, or Lords of the Fallen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Cassidy7 340 Posted November 6, 2014 Hi guys got some news for PC players. Rockstar will use new DRM system in GTA 5 for PC. This system is Denuvo, which also used in FIFA 15 and Lords of the Fallen. This System uses special code which changes every time so this DRM is still not hacked, and I think it wont be. No more piracy on PC and only way you can play GTA 5 its Steam. Got this info today. Also today Denuvo updated partners on their site. Rockstar now here too. So its confirmed. Site http://www.denuvo.com I think it is good they fight piracy, but Denuvo is very hard DRM and some people can have crashes or another issues like in Lords of the Fallen. What are you think? As long as it doesn't ruin the experience, it's good, I bought none of those games so i don't know how it works. Although never underestimate pirates, didn't Fifa 14 had the same? and it got hacked too, it just took longer. No. Fifa 14 don't have Denuvo, because Denuvo was created not much ago and as you can see all rich companies uses it now.Denuvo cant be hacked also, because all game code have DRM which changes everytime. Im 100% sure it will not be hacked. Rockstar will not accept GTA 4 situation and they will do everything to push PC sales. Well then, January is going to be an interesting month. If NASA servers were hacked in 2000-2001, i will never be 100% sure that a software isn't hackable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaRkL3AD3R 3,313 Posted November 6, 2014 Figures Rockstar would do this with the most awful DRM to date. The last middle finger to the pc fans. Gotta milk that money to the last drop though that's how they roll. Money money money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
utack 562 Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Figures Rockstar would do this with the most awful DRM to date. The last middle finger to the pc fans. Gotta milk that money to the last drop though that's how they roll. Money money money. Is it horrible? From what I read the game is launched from Steam and that's it. My understanding of horrible would be something like: - launch a own copy protection software - plug in a usb drive - bind the license to one machine with MAC adresses etc. As long as it works and does not annoy that sounds ok. Edited November 6, 2014 by utack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fefenc 2,624 Posted November 6, 2014 Figures Rockstar would do this with the most awful DRM to date. The last middle finger to the pc fans. Gotta milk that money to the last drop though that's how they roll. Money money money. well, I'll be sticky to DMC 3, it's a horrible PC port, but at least I can play it without internet connections o/ o/ o/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Russian Mafia 138 Posted November 6, 2014 You can read more info here http://megagames.com/news/new-drm-denuvo-challenges-game-crackers Dont think it will destroy mods, its just good system for checking your license, but I'm really worry about crashes and it will be -fps for low end systems. Also game maybe won't start with out internet connection. I hope Rockstar will do their best for optimise this DRM for all Steam users. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deissp 1,064 Posted November 6, 2014 To be honest there's no solid proof this is going ahead in GTA V. I think it's all scaremongering so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evan-KCR 2,666 Posted November 6, 2014 How do you guys even know it's that bad? Stop f*cking lying. Be happy it's not on GFWL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spider-Vice 30,194 Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) This system will probably be for GTA Online mostly. It will probably check for checksums, differences in files, differences in memory addresses, data that doesn't go through in the same way, etc. Edited November 6, 2014 by Spider-Vice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fefenc 2,624 Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) If the game not be DRM free = pice of crap With exception of "STEAM", GabeN is the boss, GabeN is the savior Edited November 6, 2014 by fefenc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NTAuthority 2,542 Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) >'anti-tamper' enjoy no script hooks, engine improvements, ENB, and so on, it's even worse than CEG Edited November 6, 2014 by NTAuthority Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evan-KCR 2,666 Posted November 6, 2014 This would've been interesting if Ash was still here... Well, I guess we'll just have to wait until it releases to see how it works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snorlax 541 Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Hi guys got some news for PC players. Rockstar will use new DRM system in GTA 5 for PC. This system is Denuvo, which also used in FIFA 15 and Lords of the Fallen. This System uses special code which changes every time so this DRM is still not hacked, and I think it wont be. No more piracy on PC and only way you can play GTA 5 its Steam. Got this info today. Also today Denuvo updated partners on their site. Rockstar now here too. So its confirmed. Site http://www.denuvo.com I think it is good they fight piracy, but Denuvo is very hard DRM and some people can have crashes or another issues like in Lords of the Fallen. What are you think? f*cking DRM. this is a bit disconcerting to me. these super aggressive anti-piracy measures come with a cost like you mentioned. the DRM in lords of the fallen and fifa 2015 apparently offloads itself to the CPU and causes performance loss as a result, which is bullsh*t. on another note, rockstar must be getting scared. they're aware of just how pissed off they've made PC users, so they're probably anticipating lots of vengeful pirates. i'm against piracy, but i feel companies like rockstar sometimes deserve it. a part of me wishes they feel the sting of pirates lol. hopefully this DRM sh*t doesn't make it's way into gta v pc. drm is bad enough as it is. we don't need even more aggressive crap that potentially makes the game unmoddable or hampers performance. Edited November 6, 2014 by Snorlax Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
