Grand Theft Auto III Pre-Release Discussion

[universetwisters]

24 minutes ago, Caps king said:

but imagine a another 80s station in gta 3 named "New Liberty Wave FM" that radio station be a rival of flashback fm

IMO that’d be a waste of disc space for a station that wouldn’t be much different than Flashback, especially considering how they didn’t know how much they could get away with on a disc when III was made (compared to when SA was being developed and they knew exactly how far to push the disc space and how to do it)

[Caps king]

I find these beta peds interesting, the cop had a mustache, and its evolution, first stage: https://imgur.com/1EpxfsL the cop looks cartoonish, 2nd stage: https://imgur.com/fMUEpbv their faces kind of look less cartoonish and kind of look like an actual face of a man, 3rd stage: https://imgur.com/EhXNEFo now his face looks like a Italian man, 4rd stage: he now looks frightened, now he doesn’t have a mustache

[Son Of Big Boss]

On 5/2/2023 at 8:45 PM, suicidehummer said:

This is wild. Is this really real? It makes the police car look like a '90s Audi.

 

 

In fact, that's exactly what it's modeled after. Even down to the little bumps for the headlight washers:

 

 

This is crazy, was it never a Caprice or Crown Vic after all?!

[Szironator]

Just a minor detail I think I haven't seen mentioned before - the cutscene version of the Rumpo is named rebel.dff/txd in the files, so maybe that the beta name of the van?
And then 12 years later, they reused the name for the pickup in GTA V.

 

Also, the cutscene Rumpo is less detailed than the ingame model, it lacks the rectangular panels on the doors and the sides. Could it be a beta model that R* forgot to update?
Ironically, this is one of the few things that was fixed in the Definitive Edition, where it looks the same as the ingame model.

[Yutes of Cards]

Question, Where did this rumor about Tom Novy's Back to the Street song appear on head radio? I know the song was going to appear but i can't find anything that it was supposed to appear on the head radio station.

[_Rob_]

1 hour ago, Yutes of Cards said:

Question, Where did this rumor about Tom Novy's Back to the Street song appear on head radio? I know the song was going to appear but i can't find anything that it was supposed to appear on the head radio station.

It's heard in one of the trailers, and a fully modelled Tom Novy ped is in the files. Afaik it's an educated guess based on these two facts.

[Yutes of Cards]

1 hour ago, _Rob_ said:

It's heard in one of the trailers, and a fully modelled Tom Novy ped is in the files. Afaik it's an educated guess based on these two facts.

I mean like i know its in a trailer and theirs an model, im saying where did the rumor that it was going to be on head radio?

[unopescio]

On 9/3/2023 at 5:31 AM, Yutes of Cards said:

I mean like i know its in a trailer and theirs an model, im saying where did the rumor that it was going to be on head radio?

Someone just said it and its been parroted since then. It was never confirmed, its just a rumor.

[jaydeedilla]

https://www.bnr.nl/nieuws/technologie/10524045/gta-5-bestaat-10-jaar-hoe-werd-deze-miljardengame-gemaakt

 

A new interview is up with technical lead Obbe Vermeij. It's in Dutch, so good thing I speak the language. He talks a bit about the deleted multiplayer mode for GTA 3.

 

He doesn't go into all that much detail but mentions how he worked on it by himself for 3 weeks, and that it functioned well on a fundamental level. The several game modes (he explicitly mentions death matches and races) apparently were mostly done as well. However, it ended up being scrapped following an evaluation by the team, who came to the conclusion that it simply just wasn't up to standard.

 

It would've taken too much time to perfect before the game's projected release window, meaning work on it must've begun very late. It apparently wasn't worth delaying the game for. 

 

He also briefly mentions that they had tried experimenting with it in Vice City (which corroborates some of the MP code leftovers), and how they hadn't even bothered getting it to work in San Andreas.

 

He also mentioned how QA testers apparently got through GTA 3 in an hour and 20 minutes. Goddamn.

Edited September 16 by jaydeedilla

[Lioshenka]

On 9/16/2023 at 1:07 AM, jaydeedilla said:

It would've taken too much time to perfect before the game's projected release window, meaning work on it must've begun very late. It apparently wasn't worth delaying the game for. 

Ah, the olden days when the game delelopers didn't realise they could milk the game by releasing it in parts over 10 years.

[Going_To_Aruba_01]

On 8/27/2023 at 3:06 PM, Szironator said:

Just a minor detail I think I haven't seen mentioned before - the cutscene version of the Rumpo is named rebel.dff/txd in the files, so maybe that the beta name of the van?
And then 12 years later, they reused the name for the pickup in GTA V.

 

Also, the cutscene Rumpo is less detailed than the ingame model, it lacks the rectangular panels on the doors and the sides. Could it be a beta model that R* forgot to update?
Ironically, this is one of the few things that was fixed in the Definitive Edition, where it looks the same as the ingame model.

It is?

Wow, I never knew that.

Although maybe it could be named that due to how it's used in the Give Me Liberty cutscene (like the Columbian "rebels" use it to break out the O.O.G lol but idk.) 

 

It's a shame the Capital Autos website is gone, we could've been trying to brute force it with the car name Rebel like in the old days, as afiak, the render for the beta Rumpo hasn't been found, if it even exists on the site at all. 

[Szironator]

On 9/18/2023 at 9:29 PM, Going_To_Aruba_01 said:

Although maybe it could be named that due to how it's used in the Give Me Liberty cutscene (like the Columbian "rebels" use it to break out the O.O.G lol but idk.) 

 

Maybe you are right, I haven't even thought about that.

I doubt that the Rumpo ever had a render though  - it's one of the few vehicles that weren't mentioned in the design document, so I think it was added to the game at a later stage.

Edited Thursday at 09:45 PM by Szironator