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GTAKid667

Grand Theft Auto III Pre-Release Discussion

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Jacek_K

I like how those two photos are exactly the same wall

Yes it's great, especially seeing full wall, not covered by those two guys after all these years. I hope there are close-up photos of the cars too.

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RacingFreak

Oh wow, finally there's a more clear photo of that wall! Thanks!

So, is it me or.. that sports car is actually a convertible? I have enlarged the crop a bit:
oUMo5Rx.png

I really wonder what is it now. I kinda have the feeling it could have been this:
18iXJbB.png

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BMWSauberF1.08

The front seems to be more extended on the render than the in-game picture/render.

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*Vírus*
Hi, guys! I'm new here and I found interesting this forum and decided to participate and share ideas. Let the point.

I greatly admire the GTA III and so I am "investigating" all this game for how would the city before the final release.

1st question: Do you think there could be a WTC? (I believe he would be in the Jefferson St. Credit Union court and later taken after the terrorist attack)

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spaceeinstein

There's no evidence that GTA III was planned to have WTC or anything resembling it.

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Gtaultimatefanboy

Since theres nothing to talk for now and i followed this thread since it started, Anyone thinks that we should start to make an analysis of the Beta map?

 

For example like when shoreside vale didnt had the airport and was totally different, or those unkwown cut parts of staunton.

i think it would be very interesting, even more that we have those renders that show things like houses, power plants, etc.

its something that has not been talked about before.

g7L7tnF.jpg

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Gtaultimatefanboy

Well heres my analysis of the from all i could found, if you have anything else, show it.

 

1. Lets start with Shoreside vale:

probably the most mysterious beta district, First we have the top of the island which in the final at the end of it theres was more of the top near the Dam, in the final half of the top part is cut off and the tunnel is there, either you could go to that tunnel that tunnel and that part was there at the end of it or they just put it there as a replacement. i wonder if uptown state existed while that part was there.

 

Maybe this was the inside of Shoreside vale tunnel in this render screenshots?

of3lsy.jpg

w8uk1y.jpg

 

it maybe the porter tunnel,

However this tunnel looks straight, and in the second theres Cones in there. so yeah the tunnel was indeed a place to go in the beta. (damn Rockstar u liars)

 

The second part is also interesting, it originally didnt had the airport and it seems like originally was more suburban than in the final where a very cockroach small part of it is, part of which also originally you entered on shoreside and to support that this. here are some development screenshots from 1999/2000. (you can find more in this thread)

gta3-image-02.jpg

 

And this paint shop also seems like it was in Shoreside vale since it defentely looks like a building you would see in a suburban area.

2ltrog4.jpg

 

and for those who says theyre just beta versions of the houses/mansions seen in the final shoreside vale, its unlikely bacause these houses are rich houses, and these are medium- type houses so this island probably had different classes of streets?

sad how in the final they turned it from suburban to almost all commercial but with a really small suburban part and that also made super rushed like it is now.

 

i know this was already mentioned, but no one ever explained it in detail

ill post more to analyse but tell me what you think?

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Intergold

... First we have the top of the island which in the final at the end of it theres was more of the top near the Dam, in the final half of the top part is cut off and the tunnel is there, either you could go to that tunnel that tunnel and that part was there at the end of it or they just put it there as a replacement. i wonder if uptown state existed while that part was there.

 

Maybe this was the inside of Shoreside vale tunnel in this render screenshots?

of3lsy.jpg

w8uk1y.jpg

 

...

 

And this paint shop also seems like it was in Shoreside vale since it defentely looks like a building you would see in a suburban area.

2ltrog4.jpg

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1-that tunnel looks too modern for both the concept and final versions of SSV, it looks more like a specially designed environment than an in-game location.

2-that building looks very much like Portland-ish... just look at that barred windows - if that building was meant to be located at ssv, then it would look more refined and modern... so that building also fits to industrial districts, not only the suburbs...

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Gamerjman19

The only things from Shoreside Vale most likely are the Suburban Houses.

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Gtaultimatefanboy

@Intergold

 

yeah, youre right maybe its just a render, however you can cleary see that atleast a concept its the shoreside vale tunnel.

in the second screenshots theres cones and its a straight tunnel which perfectly fits the one in the actual game.

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Intergold

...

 

yeah, youre right maybe its just a render, however you can cleary see that atleast a concept its the shoreside vale tunnel.

in the second screenshots theres cones and its a straight tunnel which perfectly fits the one in the actual game.

 

I don't think so, the tunnel itself looks very, very hi-tech for such a location. it also looks and feels like an underground tunnel, whereas the so-called "Upstate" tunnel you're talking about is a mountain tunnel. again, only Rockstar North team knows the truth...

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ermaccer

And they won't share it :p.

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Gamerjman19

I wish they could be lenient with this stuff. I don't understand the big deal. The game is almost 15 years old.

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RM76

Non disclosure agreement, that's what you need to understand.

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Gamerjman19

Non disclosure agreement, that's what you need to understand.

yeah

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R4gN0r0K

i wanted to upload them on my pastebin (http://pastebin.com/u/R4gn0r0k), but since they have a 25 posts per 24h limit i decided to upload the files on gta3d.net, because why not. anyway. i uploaded every mission .sc file from the iOS release and the links are here in case you want to check them out:

www.gta3d.net/missions/files.txt

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Gamerjman19

i wanted to upload them on my pastebin (http://pastebin.com/u/R4gn0r0k), but since they have a 25 posts per 24h limit i decided to upload the files on gta3d.net, because why not. anyway. i uploaded every mission .sc file from the iOS release and the links are here in case you want to check them out:

www.gta3d.net/missions/files.txt

Have you noticed anything cool or odd while looking through these?

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R4gN0r0K

i havent had time too look at them really, i only noticed that the names were different sometimes. but when im done uploading all to pastebin i take a look at them

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Intergold

...i only noticed that the names were different sometimes. but when im done uploading all to pastebin i take a look at them

frank = salvatore, right? come on man, that's old news...

 

besides, there's lots of differences between .sc files and final script, particularly the Portland mission set, for example, early script of Luigi's Girls mission shows that you were meant to pick up a second girl, named Trixie, from St. Marks, along with Misty.

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R4gN0r0K

more like Pulp Friction, Kill Chunky Dave/Mike Lips. the mission names

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spaceeinstein

You don't really have to upload the script source code to Pastebin. They're all available here.

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JustCarl

I looked up all the magazines on site abandonware-magazines.org. Here are some more previews found.

 

 

Playmag%20053%20-%20Page%20046%20(juille

Dreamzone%20N%B025%20-%20Page%20086%20(J

Playbox%2005%20-%20Page%20010%20(avril%2

 

 

I also found a few Review, if you're interested, you also upload the scans here.

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Sweet Bellic

I looked up all the magazines on site abandonware-magazines.org. Here are some more previews found.

 

 

Playmag%20053%20-%20Page%20046%20(juille

Dreamzone%20N%B025%20-%20Page%20086%20(J

Playbox%2005%20-%20Page%20010%20(avril%2

 

 

I also found a few Review, if you're interested, you also upload the scans here.

Can you upload the reviews cause I´d like to see them.

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JustCarl

Reviews

 

 

Consoles%20Max%2031%20-%20Pag%20054%20(m

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Gaming-005---Page-034-(2004-03).jpg

Gaming-005---Page-084-(2004-03).jpg

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Jeux%20Vid%C3%A9o%20Micro%2004%20-%20Pag

Jeux%20Vid%C3%A9o%20Micro%2004%20-%20Pag

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Playbox%2012%20-%20Page%20015%20(d%E9cem

Playbox%2012%20-%20Page%20025%20(d%E9cem

Playbox%2012%20-%20Page%20026%20(d%E9cem

Playbox%2012%20-%20Page%20027%20(d%E9cem

Playbox%2012%20-%20Page%20028%20(d%E9cem

Playbox%2012%20-%20Page%20029%20(d%E9cem

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PSM2%20n13_p098-099.jpg

PSM2%20n13_p100-101.jpg

PSM2%20n13_p102-103.jpg

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Consoles%20%2B%20120%20-%20Page%20121%20

Consoles%20%2B%20120%20-%20Page%20120%20

 

 

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Intergold

Reviews

 

 

 

...

Consoles%20%2B%20120%20-%20Page%20121%20

Consoles%20%2B%20120%20-%20Page%20120%20

 

 

those last two scans aren't reviews, but a documentation of cheat codes. also, some scans make this page crash, just to let you know.

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universetwisters

Boy, I wish I could read the language of rifle dropping cowards French.

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angeldust

m84FoFo.png

 

incredibly beta docks? can't tell if my minds playing tricks on me but it doesnt look right

 

also ship railing and floor textures are different i think

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Sergiu

m84FoFo.png

 

incredibly beta docks? can't tell if my minds playing tricks on me but it doesnt look right

 

also ship railing and floor textures are different i think

There's actually a higher quality Gouranga shot of that. You can really see how similar it looks to GTA 2's docks. :p

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Cr!minal

Higher quality.

 

iwhyjl.jpg

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angeldust

I was confusing that ship with the one that gets blown up. Either way I went onto that ship and took some comparison pictures; fun fact, the place where the beta pic is taken is not solid, only the top deck and some of the stairs is solid.

 

Differences I can see:

 

- no saint marks or beach area (either early on in the game or draw distance clipping)

- lots of different textures (boat flooring and railing, shipping crates, cranes, warehouses etc.)

- cranes look shorter

- claudes clothes somewhat different

 

eNzAqvB.png

 

If you wanna snoop around use Ultimate Trainer TP and enter:

 

X: 1640.25073242188

Y: -700.921142578125

Z: 30.8261489868164

 

Be careful though as not much of it is solid so if you're unsure just fire at the floor; If there's sparks its solid.

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