Grand Theft Auto III Pre-Release Discussion

[Gamerjman19 1,004]

 

Can these people share any beta screenshots without permission from R*?

Of course. It's not like they're gonna care. Their heads are so far up their own asses they don't care about anything unless it's cash cards or riceburners.

 

riceburners?

[RM76 1,899]

 

 

Can these people share any beta screenshots without permission from R*?

Of course. It's not like they're gonna care. Their heads are so far up their own asses they don't care about anything unless it's cash cards or riceburners.

 

riceburners?

 

Japanese cars.

Edited June 2, 2015 by RM76

[Gamerjman19 1,004]

 

 

 

Can these people share any beta screenshots without permission from R*?

Of course. It's not like they're gonna care. Their heads are so far up their own asses they don't care about anything unless it's cash cards or riceburners.

 

riceburners?

 

Japanese cars.

 

I know what they are. What does Rockstar have to do with riceburners?

[RM76 1,899]

 

 

 

 

Can these people share any beta screenshots without permission from R*?

Of course. It's not like they're gonna care. Their heads are so far up their own asses they don't care about anything unless it's cash cards or riceburners.

 

riceburners?

 

Japanese cars.

 

I know what they are. What does Rockstar have to do with riceburners?

 

With the way you worded it, it sure as hell sounded like you were inquiring as to what "riceburner" meant.

Anyways, he's referring to the fact R* panders to the 12 year old sports car loving crowd in GTA V big time.

[Gamerjman19 1,004]

 

 

 

 

 

Can these people share any beta screenshots without permission from R*?

Of course. It's not like they're gonna care. Their heads are so far up their own asses they don't care about anything unless it's cash cards or riceburners.

 

riceburners?

 

Japanese cars.

 

I know what they are. What does Rockstar have to do with riceburners?

 

With the way you worded it, it sure as hell sounded like you were inquiring as to what "riceburner" meant.

Anyways, he's referring to the fact R* panders to the 12 year old sports car loving crowd in GTA V big time.

 

Oh, they have a hard on for super cars in that game for sure. I really want some muscle, tuner, or biker DLC's.

 

"Off-topic over"

Edited June 2, 2015 by Gamerjman19

[Gamerjman19 1,004]

Any updates or discoveries?

[X/R// 445]

Any updates or discoveries?

 

Yeah, anything new?

 

btw, has anybody done anything about the stuff i posted a long time ago?

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/745716-grand-theft-auto-iii-pre-release-discussion/?p=1066815998

[Gamerjman19 1,004]

 

Any updates or discoveries?

 

Yeah, anything new?

 

btw, has anybody done anything about the stuff i posted a long time ago?

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/745716-grand-theft-auto-iii-pre-release-discussion/?p=1066815998

 

I think they might have used the fist icon for the beta hud. The only thing in the textures that looks like it was from the alpha is the road textures.

[thehambone 2,296]

 

Any updates or discoveries?

Yeah, anything new?

 

btw, has anybody done anything about the stuff i posted a long time ago?

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/745716-grand-theft-auto-iii-pre-release-discussion/?p=1066815998

 

Nothing yet, unfortunately

[X/R// 445]

unfortunately

Edited June 17, 2015 by X/R//

[Inadequate 3,321]

 

Nice catches dude. The pulp fiction 'mission' reads more like pulp friction, look closely.

[X/R// 445]

well i wasnt sure, so i went with pulp fiction, but thanx

[PhillBellic 24,362]

 

-Snip-

 

Nice catches dude. The pulp fiction 'mission' reads more like pulp friction, look closely.

 

I can confirm that, Inadequate.

[Sergiu 4,738]

Hello!

I've been looking into beta main characters quite a lot recently and besides the already found stuff that is lesser known (for example, Toni's alpha name - Tony Facile) I've been able to find some other interesting stuff.

Note: I've been mostly looking into lesser known details about beta main characters and not the stuff everyone knows about.

 

Maria

Sketch


Renders

(full body render)

(face render)

-will be added later as I cannot render the head right now-

We know for a fact that her head is featured in the leftover file, peds.dff. It's a generic female head model but the texture's name is still maria.bmp. Sadly, there's no texture anymore - just the 3DS Max directory.

 

 

Tony

 

 

Sketch

Renders

(Toni alongside Salvatore/Frankie/ in the render below)

(full body render)

The earliest name we know of - Tony Facile.

Curtly?

 

Render

Facts:
Main character model. All the main character models shared the same feet/hands in these renders.
Made full mesh for previews - only main characters were modified in order to look nice for previews.

Similar body structure:

This type of body structure is only meant for main characters. Much like the suits in the final version, I suppose.
All we know is that the arms are modified early cop ones and that Darkel still has these hands in his model.

Alright, these prove the fact that he's a main character due to having a full mesh and high quality model for the time but who could he be? At least we managed to confirm that this is, indeed, a main character model. Logically, this leads straight to...

Well, the only character we heard about that was cut and never witnessed? Curtly.
His voice actor was Curtis L. McClarin who is an African American individual. Makes sense since the character seems to be dark skinned as well. No racism intended.

 

All characters have a "Reward X" note on the board after their first mission, for example - Reward Joey.
May or may not be his name but this is the longest name I can imagine ending in "y" when it comes to GTA 3 character names.

^I'm far from sure on this one but I'm gonna go with it. It's really speculative so I wouldn't take it too seriously.

 

There's also a possible connection between Curtly and Joey since he appears in Joey's section of the storyboard. Out of place unless there's some more context to it if you'd ask me...
That's all I could find for now. This theory makes perfect sense so that's the reason I decided to make a post about it.

 

Still, it's our only lead to this mysterious character called "Curtly" and it's a damn good one, in my opinion. Wanna know why?

Because even if he's not Curtly (which is highly unlikely) he's still a cut main character.

There's no other cut character that would fit Curtly's description so well, in fact, there's no other fully cut character we've never seen that we know of.

 

I mean, we've seen Darkel...

 

 

Credits for the source material:
Gallardo555
//XP//
Mr. Jago

 

Quick fact: Both voice actors of Curtly and Darkel died last year (2014). Sinister coincidence, isn't it?

 

Thank you for reading! It took me a while selecting all of this information and putting it together.

Edited June 16, 2015 by Sergiu

[WorthlessYouth 200]

Wow, those development pictures are fascinating!

 

Just when you think you've seen it all, huh?

[Sergiu 4,738]

Wow, those development pictures are fascinating!

 

Just when you think you've seen it all, huh?

You never see it all...

 

Just like we've discovered the unreleased vehicle renders recently.

Although these development pictures have been out for a while nobody has really looked into them closely.

[Vadim M. 642]

This information will be useful if someone remembers my video. Basically,this is an update for "Camera Pickup" section.

 

 

 

A good friend of mine made "main.scm" file, where he placed all these camera pickups so I could film them. As you remember, you can pick them only by car but nothing happens. I didn't point in a video, he made these pickups to use an unused pickup function, which he found long time ago. He was 100% sure that this function belonged to the camera pickup and I didn't argue, since he had pretty good GTA 3 knowledge.

 

After one year I decided to put this modded scm file in PS2 version just for

... I was pretty amused. This function works perfectly on PS2 only.

 

Edited June 17, 2015 by Vadim M.

[Gamerjman19 1,004]

I found this on Dimzet's Site. I think I shared it on GTA 3D, but not here.

http://dimzet13.3dn.ru/photo/gta_3_beta/5

 

Vadim, maybe you could find more cut models?

Edited June 17, 2015 by Gamerjman19

[thehambone 2,296]

A good friend of mine made "main.scm" file, where he placed all these camera pickups so I could film them. As you remember, you can pick them only by car but nothing happens. I didn't point in a video, he made these pickups to use an unused pickup function, which he found long time ago. He was 100% sure that this function belonged to the camera pickup and I didn't argue, since he had pretty good GTA 3 knowledge.

 

After one year I decided to put this modded scm file in PS2 version just for

... I was pretty amused. This function works perfectly on PS2 only.

*snip*

I wonder if that camera pickup (in hidden form), or something like it, is used for the Unique Stunt Jump cameras.

Edited June 17, 2015 by thehambone

[unopieceo 1,266]

I reckon the code must be included in the unique stunt code. What purpose could it serve on its own though? I'm guessing to make the original trailers and pre release screenshots.

[thehambone 2,296]

That's highly possible, and it'd make sense. Simply hit "record" and drive through the marker. Edit out the first few seconds of the clip and BAM! you've got a cool trailer clip.

[Edgrd 531]

Taken from gouranga

 

During the game you will interact with well over 60 different characters, some of which will be crime bosses and characters from GTA, GTA: London, and GTA2.

can anyone confirm this ? i can't remember seeing any characters from GTA 2D era.

Edited June 18, 2015 by SkyHunted

[PhillBellic 24,362]

That's highly possible, and it'd make sense. Simply hit "record" and drive through the marker. Edit out the first few seconds of the clip and BAM! you've got a cool trailer clip.

That's a very reasonable explanation for the existence of that Camera Pick Up.

[Sergiu 4,738]

 

Taken from gouranga

 

During the game you will interact with well over 60 different characters, some of which will be crime bosses and characters from GTA, GTA: London, and GTA2.

can anyone confirm this ? i can't remember seeing any characters from GTA 2D era.

 

It's probably exaggerated. Or at least that's what we think.

 

There are some characters from the 2D era but they play a really small role (the likes of El Burro).

In my personal opinion I'd say that they meant to have more characters returning but not over 60. I'd be impressed if the number was just slightly above 10.

[Vadim M. 642]

Investigating cut FPS mode. Things are going extremely slowly, this mode is just a whole bugfest. More info soon, I hope.

 

 

Edited June 19, 2015 by Vadim M.

[WorthlessYouth 200]

This information will be useful if someone remembers my video. Basically,this is an update for "Camera Pickup" section.

 

A good friend of mine made "main.scm" file, where he placed all these camera pickups so I could film them. As you remember, you can pick them only by car but nothing happens. I didn't point in a video, he made these pickups to use an unused pickup function, which he found long time ago. He was 100% sure that this function belonged to the camera pickup and I didn't argue, since he had pretty good GTA 3 knowledge.

 

After one year I decided to put this modded scm file in PS2 version just for

... I was pretty amused. This function works perfectly on PS2 only.

 

 

I'm willing to bet that this was a developer tool left in. Although, it does seem odd that they would create an icon specifically for it, so maybe they had plans to expand on it for player use.

 

As someone already mentioned, it would make creating screenshots and trailers much easier. All you'd need to do is disable the HUD, walk / drive into the icon and capture.

Edited June 20, 2015 by Azurex

[Inadequate 3,321]

Amazing find Vadim! Why R* cut that feature?! damn it!

I would liked the original release of GTA III in PS2 was be in December instead of October so they would have more time for add all cool sh*t was they planned. Again, damn it!

Edited June 25, 2015 by GTAKid667

[Filip 407]

 

A good friend of mine made "main.scm" file, where he placed all these camera pickups so I could film them. As you remember, you can pick them only by car but nothing happens. I didn't point in a video, he made these pickups to use an unused pickup function, which he found long time ago. He was 100% sure that this function belonged to the camera pickup and I didn't argue, since he had pretty good GTA 3 knowledge.

 

After one year I decided to put this modded scm file in PS2 version just for

... I was pretty amused. This function works perfectly on PS2 only.

*snip*

I wonder if that camera pickup (in hidden form), or something like it, is used for the Unique Stunt Jump cameras.

 

 

 

Because it is a pickup with a stunt jump camera function. In stunt jumps, the pickup is just hidden.

[Vadim M. 642]

 

 

A good friend of mine made "main.scm" file, where he placed all these camera pickups so I could film them. As you remember, you can pick them only by car but nothing happens. I didn't point in a video, he made these pickups to use an unused pickup function, which he found long time ago. He was 100% sure that this function belonged to the camera pickup and I didn't argue, since he had pretty good GTA 3 knowledge.

 

After one year I decided to put this modded scm file in PS2 version just for

... I was pretty amused. This function works perfectly on PS2 only.

*snip*

I wonder if that camera pickup (in hidden form), or something like it, is used for the Unique Stunt Jump cameras.

 

 

 

Because it is a pickup with a stunt jump camera function. In stunt jumps, the pickup is just hidden.

 

But this camera function doesn't work on PC only on PS2. A friend of mine checked it on Android version. Doesn't work there as well.

 

~~~

 

Camera pickup in the leaked sources has PICKUP_ON_STREET function. I found a list, where it states to be type 2 pickup, the same one, which I used to test it in-game. If someone interested.

 

//pickups

PICKUP_IN_SHOP = 1

PICKUP_ON_STREET = 2

PICKUP_ONCE = 3

PICKUP_OUT_OF_STOCK = 6

PICKUP_ON_STREET_SLOW = 14

~~~

 

 

Please, could you film the rest of locations? Maybe these pickup were places in cool looking places? Say what you say but this place you've filmed with the sunshine and green area looks beautiful with that "camera mode"

 

Nothing special about these places. BTW, I showed all these camera locations in my video.

Edited June 20, 2015 by Vadim M.

[spaceeinstein 1,753]

Anyone want to speculate this? The map.zon file controls the loading areas of the islands:

 

But there are three zones that were commented out and ignored by the game:

 

Do you think it's the old Shoreside Vale?