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Gay Tony

Should polygamy be legalized?

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Gay Tony

If they're all consenting adults and it's just between them, and in no way violating my freedoms....why not?

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Niobium

i normally see marriage as a partnership, but i don't see what's too bad about polygamy tbh. as long the people being married are happy with it, i am okay with it.

 

dat profile pic tho

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Ai®a©ob®a

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PinkRibbonScars

Sure, why not?

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Rown

If we consider monogamy to be a partnership and essentially a contract between two consenting adults then I see no reason to restrict more parties from entering into that partnership. If it really does take a village to raise a child why not have them under one roof? I'm only being slightly facetious there, since there's probably an upper limit to the number of cohabiting spouses you could have.

 

There is a question of form to the polygamy, though. Would it be equal partners? Or could you have like first, second, third spouses with decreasing levels of influence or legal co-authority? Like if you're on life support, can all of your husbands and/or wives individually elect to remove the tubes? Would the primary be the sole decider? Would they take a vote?

 

Other than the design my biggest concern is the potential for greater abuse. A sufficiently charming or charismatic person could ensnare multiple partners the same way a cult leader draws others to themselves. They could use that power to cause physical and emotional harm to several people instead of just one. Peer pressure could also be an issue in a polygamous marriage.

 

However, we can't form judgements based on the anecdotes I've supplied since polygamy isn't widespread enough to have been studied for its effects on spousal happiness, child development, etc. My expectation is that people are pretty socially resilient and that having varying circumstances in living or upbringing won't end badly so long as the family unit, however composed, is stable and supportive.

 

Rown :rampage:

 

 

edit: Post 2500 apparently. It only took nearly 10 years. Everyone who reads this post is now my lawfully wedded other and I want a divorce and half your sh*t.

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ByePolar

Be my luck I get two bipolar wives and one of them end up cutting my dick off, because I spent too much time with the other one.

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Gay Tony

If we consider monogamy to be a partnership and essentially a contract between two consenting adults then I see no reason to restrict more parties from entering into that partnership. If it really does take a village to raise a child why not have them under one roof? I'm only being slightly facetious there, since there's probably an upper limit to the number of cohabiting spouses you could have.

 

There is a question of form to the polygamy, though. Would it be equal partners? Or could you have like first, second, third spouses with decreasing levels of influence or legal co-authority? Like if you're on life support, can all of your husbands and/or wives individually elect to remove the tubes? Would the primary be the sole decider? Would they take a vote?

 

Other than the design my biggest concern is the potential for greater abuse. A sufficiently charming or charismatic person could ensnare multiple partners the same way a cult leader draws others to themselves. They could use that power to cause physical and emotional harm to several people instead of just one. Peer pressure could also be an issue in a polygamous marriage.

 

However, we can't form judgements based on the anecdotes I've supplied since polygamy isn't widespread enough to have been studied for its effects on spousal happiness, child development, etc. My expectation is that people are pretty socially resilient and that having varying circumstances in living or upbringing won't end badly so long as the family unit, however composed, is stable and supportive.

 

Rown :rampage:

 

Loved reading through that. You pointed out some issues I hadn't entirely thought about.

 

Basically, it'd make things a hell of a lot more complicated within the legal system, uncharted waters, ect.

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Kaiju Blue

Yes, it definitely should be legal. If all parties involved give their consent, there is LITERALLY nothing wrong with it. Anyone who says otherwise is quite close-minded.

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Gay Tony

Yes, it definitely should be legal. If all parties involved give their consent, there is LITERALLY nothing wrong with it. Anyone who says otherwise is quite close-minded.

 

The other guy makes some good points.

 

But I think it's better to face those legal issues having to deal with insurance, lifesupport, inheritance, ext. then to deny them polygamy outwright.

 

Let them figure it out.

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gtamann123

Move to Utah

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lil weasel

Seems rather one-sided. I think women should be allowed to have many spouses, if men can.

Considering that the Christian Church(s) are run by homosexual priests and the Church runs most of the 'free' world it would certainly be difficult to get passed into law, or the restrictive laws (fostered by the Church) repealed.

Free Love meaning just that, deprives the Church of money. Say no more, nudge, nudge... :)

 

 

Oh, it would make it more difficult for ugly people (without money) to find partners. :v:

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Gay Tony

Seems rather one-sided. I think women should be allowed to have many spouses, if men can.

Considering that the Christian Church(s) are run by homosexual priests and the Church runs most of the 'free' world it would certainly be difficult to get passed into law, or the restrictive laws (fostered by the Church) repealed.

Free Love meaning just that, deprives the Church of money. Say no more, nudge, nudge... :)

 

Sorry if I wasn't clear. Polygamy incorporates both.

 

A man being married to more than one woman at a time is polygyny, if it's a woman it's polyandry.

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TheFoxRiverFugitive

I have no issues with it. I believe consenting adults should be able to do whatever so long as it doesn't harm an outside party or break any laws. This includes someone being a voluntary victim of something that is normally a criminal act. For example, I don't think Armin Miewes (a man who was able to find someone willing to offer his body up to be consumed) should have been arrested. Yeah, the guy is f*cked in the head and cannibalism is generally viewed as abhorrent, but it was all within the realm of consent.

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K^2

At the face value, sure, why not? There are some legal problems, though.

 

First of all, the way polygamy works in some cultures, where a man can marry another woman without asking his wives what they think about it, is not the way to go. What I'm picturing as a much more viable system is something where each person needs to be married to each other person. So if a married couple picks up a third partner, each one of them must enter into a binding union with the new person individually.

 

This accomplishes several things. It establishes a more balanced union, it makes sure that everyone is on board with it, and it makes some legal problems a bit easier.

 

But only some. Think about how much of a mess a divorce is already. Try to picture a polygamous divorce. That is going to be a total nightmare.

 

But I think we should have machinery set up for it. It's an important part of some cultures, and the only way to make the world go forward is to move towards less of a marriage system and more of a civil union system. Anything else is going to hold us back.

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DeafMetal

No. I think that would actually be "violating the sanctity of western marriage." I was fortunate enough to grow up with excellent examples of good marriage where both parties were equal partners and both pulled their own weight for the family. My mom and dad were and are like that, and so is my sister and her husband. I think by adding more people to that, then the sense of partnership is lost and the people in it become objects rather than partners. It becomes more a game of "collect wives/husbands" rather than finding someone you actually give a f*ck about, who you can confide in and count on.

 

Sure, a lot of marriages don't end up like that. I'd say most don't. But I think it's worth it for the ones that do. I think legalizing it would be inserting it into the mainstream, and thus this eventually taking over traditional marriage for the same reason that most marriages don't work out... because people are stupid when they're young and get married. I think I could tweak a Churchill quote to my fit the idea: “The inherent vice of traditional marriage is the unequal distribution of successful partnerships; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal distribution of misery.”

 

Edit: now that I think about it, all of the people I've met who've grown up in those kind of marriages seem very disconnected with their families. A good friend of mine's father had four wives and over two dozen kids (I don't remember the exact number, but it was 20+). When he talks about his dad, he always talks about him like he would a former boss or something, not the way I talk about mine. The way he described his father, too, left a really bad taste in my mouth - he treated his wives like objects that could be easily replaceable, and his children like trophies. It left a pretty bad taste in his mouth too, I guess, since he opted for one wife who he's been married to now for 30 years or so.

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Gay Tony

No. I think that would actually be "violating the sanctity of western marriage." I was fortunate enough to grow up with excellent examples of good marriage where both parties were equal partners and both pulled their own weight for the family. My mom and dad were and are like that, and so is my sister and her husband. I think by adding more people to that, then the sense of partnership is lost and the people in it become objects rather than partners. It becomes more a game of "collect wives/husbands" rather than finding someone you actually give a f*ck about, who you can confide in and count on.

 

Sure, a lot of marriages don't end up like that. I'd say most don't. But I think it's worth it for the ones that do. I think legalizing it would be inserting it into the mainstream, and thus this eventually taking over traditional marriage for the same reason that most marriages don't work out... because people are stupid when they're young and get married. I think I could tweak a Churchill quote to my fit the idea: “The inherent vice of traditional marriage is the unequal distribution of successful partnerships; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal distribution of misery.”

 

It's not your reponsibility if people do dumb things and get married to more people than they should and end up regreting it.... that's entirely on them.

 

I still don't think most people would honestly start marrying multiple people, and if they do that's their choice.

 

Remember, you can always have two person relationship.

 

I really enjoyed reading this though. You put some thought into it.

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Mr. House

No. I think that would actually be "violating the sanctity of western marriage." I was fortunate enough to grow up with excellent examples of good marriage where both parties were equal partners and both pulled their own weight for the family. My mom and dad were and are like that, and so is my sister and her husband. I think by adding more people to that, then the sense of partnership is lost and the people in it become objects rather than partners. It becomes more a game of "collect wives/husbands" rather than finding someone you actually give a f*ck about, who you can confide in and count on.

 

Sure, a lot of marriages don't end up like that. I'd say most don't. But I think it's worth it for the ones that do. I think legalizing it would be inserting it into the mainstream, and thus this eventually taking over traditional marriage for the same reason that most marriages don't work out... because people are stupid when they're young and get married. I think I could tweak a Churchill quote to my fit the idea: “The inherent vice of traditional marriage is the unequal distribution of successful partnerships; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal distribution of misery.”

Churchill gassed Africans for fun. f*ck Churchill.

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DeafMetal

^^ Churchill was a pretty sh*tty person, but he said some very smart things.

 

 

No. I think that would actually be "violating the sanctity of western marriage." I was fortunate enough to grow up with excellent examples of good marriage where both parties were equal partners and both pulled their own weight for the family. My mom and dad were and are like that, and so is my sister and her husband. I think by adding more people to that, then the sense of partnership is lost and the people in it become objects rather than partners. It becomes more a game of "collect wives/husbands" rather than finding someone you actually give a f*ck about, who you can confide in and count on.

 

Sure, a lot of marriages don't end up like that. I'd say most don't. But I think it's worth it for the ones that do. I think legalizing it would be inserting it into the mainstream, and thus this eventually taking over traditional marriage for the same reason that most marriages don't work out... because people are stupid when they're young and get married. I think I could tweak a Churchill quote to my fit the idea: “The inherent vice of traditional marriage is the unequal distribution of successful partnerships; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal distribution of misery.”

 

It's not your reponsibility if people do dumb things and get married to more people than they should and end up regreting it.... that's entirely on them.

 

I still don't think most people would honestly start marrying multiple people, and if they do that's their choice.

 

Remember, you can always have two person relationship.

 

No arguments there in that I have my own free will. However, I could see this becoming the norm after two or three generations, which I think would be a real shame. I say this because when people are young, the ages when they get married, they're horny, reckless, and have a very poor idea of what a real partnership is. If I would ask my college friends if they'd rather marry one woman or more, they'd go for the latter without a second thought. I don't think it's a wild statement to make - especially as having children out of wedlock is becoming an everyday thing now, when a generation or two ago, it was taboo.

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Gay Tony

 

No arguments there in that I have my own free will. However, I could see this becoming the norm after two or three generations, which I think would be a real shame. I say this because when people are young, the ages when they get married, they're horny, reckless, and have a very poor idea of what a real partnership is. If I would ask my college friends if they'd rather marry one woman or more, they'd go for the latter without a second thought. I don't think it's a wild statement to make - especially as having children out of wedlock is becoming an everyday thing now, when a generation or two ago, it was taboo.

 

I guess I just think people should have the right to f*ck up.

 

If they end up marrying more people than they want, they can always get divorced.

 

Some people want polygamy, and because there are few horny college idiots who don't take it seriously it screws them over?

 

 

Edit: now that I think about it, all of the people I've met who've grown up in those kind of marriages seem very disconnected with their families. A good friend of mine's father had four wives and over two dozen kids (I don't remember the exact number, but it was 20+). When he talks about his dad, he always talks about him like he would a former boss or something, not the way I talk about mine. The way he described his father, too, left a really bad taste in my mouth - he treated his wives like objects that could be easily replaceable, and his children like trophies. It left a pretty bad taste in his mouth too, I guess, since he opted for one wife who he's been married to now for 30 years or so.

 

But couldn't much of this be applied to large families in general, with parents unable to constantly connect with each child individually?

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DeafMetal

I'm just saying that legalizing this in the western world has a very high potential of making it the norm, which is not something I support. AFAIK, polygamy is only disallowed in legal proceedings; i.e., marriage, so those who want to keep an open relationship can do so, but they just can't marry all of their partners. And yes - but the fact of the matter is that, the more partners there are, the bigger the potential family.

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Doc Rikowski

"violating the sanctity of western marriage."

Who said there's sanctity only in western marriage?

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*Qi*

Polygamy will be good only until You have Sex with multiple partners which would lead to AIDS. It should be given a thought about such diseases that tend to happen. I dont see any other problems with polygamy which is being practiced today at a number of places.

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I cucked Alex Jones

Polygamy will be good only until You have Sex with multiple partners which would lead to AIDS. It should be given a thought about such diseases that tend to happen. I dont see any other problems with polygamy which is being practiced today at a number of places.

Having sex doesn't lead to AIDS.

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El Dildo

it's not a popular topic, but you know honestly, I cannot think of any logical reason why polygamy amongst consenting adults should be illegal.

I personally wouldn't want to share the person that I love.

 

but I don't see why others shouldn't be allowed to, if they want to.

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eroch

No. Polygamy shouldn't be legalized if for no other reason than that children shouldn't be raised by more than 2 people. Furthermore, many laws in first world countries establish statutes that pass on duties or possessions to the spouse due to criteria such as death. How would this work with polygamy? What if it was a marriage with multiple men and women? The legal loopholes would stretch to the moon and back. Also, the point of a marriage is the establishment of a partnership between two people, which is why I don't have any issue with LGBTQ marriages, but multiple spouses is ridiculous. Would a marriage of >2 people have a cap? Could you have a harem? What would stop me from having a harem of 100 women if they all want to marry me?

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Clem Fandango

A more interesting question would be "is polygamy f*cked up?" I have no strong opinion on the legality of it (most who have any opinion on it whatsoever are either social conservatives or they support it as part of a broader ideology of societal non-interventionism), but the fact that it's usually one man and five women suggests to me that, no, society wouldn't benefit from facilitating polygamous marriages.

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*Qi*

 

Polygamy will be good only until You have Sex with multiple partners which would lead to AIDS. It should be given a thought about such diseases that tend to happen. I dont see any other problems with polygamy which is being practiced today at a number of places.

Having sex doesn't lead to AIDS.

 

 

Not just Sex man. Sex with multiple partners. It leads to HIV and AIDS, At least as much as I know.

 

I might be wrong, But not 100% wrong.

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I cucked Alex Jones

Having unprotected sex with someone with AIDS can lead to you contracting AIDS. You can sex with a million people; if they don't have AIDS, you won't get AIDS.

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*Qi*

Having unprotected sex with someone with AIDS can lead to you contracting AIDS. You can sex with a million people; if they don't have AIDS, you won't get AIDS.

 

Really?

Thanks man; that a new thing to learn. Schools taught me Something different.

So; Knowledge Updated. :)

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Otter

The concept itself is harmless, but polygamy in practice has almost always led to the further subjugation of women.

 

How do we presume to police these practices in a free society? This is difficult to reconcile with our responsibility to protect our fellow men.

 

Legally, if people end up with multiple wives and multiple husbands or whatever other combination, we're looking at a clusterf*ck.

 

So, to be honest, when we talk about polygamy we're really talking about multiple wives, as that's about the only relevant cultural practice that exists still in Western society, and it's insidiously self-replicating and damaging to women. We couldn't allow this to happen without some significant oversight.

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