debunking shark card conspiracy people

[garvdart]

All you shark card haters can now stop the rant.

 

Depending on your play style you will or Will not ever need too buy a shark card ever. You do have a choice it's called change the way you play.

 

"But I like to play the way I like too." Well if your wasting resources, your falling for the oldest trick in the business, you are literally in a grocery store and checking out waiting next in line, look at all that expensive candy, soda , and other guilty pleasures are. It's called impulse buying and you just fell for it.

 

Free roam , rampager; that never does missions and jobs and blows everything up, you my friend are screwed unless you are a bounty hunter and actually join a session with lots of bounties. The problem is your expenditures exceed your profits. Easy fix rampage all you want but you have too mix; robbing stores, and Lester targets, and then selling Lester's targets cars, avoid blowing things up with explosives.

 

Racers; your set even if you don't win, it's a grind though since you really can't win without having the right vehicle fully modded. Easy fix host it non custom, or customize a rarely used class and then host your own (created)

race...bingo your rolling in the dough avoid the first 3 tiers of turbo/engine upgrades. Avoid cosmetic only changes too vehicles.

 

The poke Mon ; or gotta have it all player, stop avoid non combat vehicles. There are so many crappy Pegasus vehicles that are "neat" but you will never use, do you really need 3+ super cars, evaluate which ones do you use the most sell the others. Avoid cosmetic only car changes. Ignore buying the next tier of weapon unlocks, do so for free from a survival or deathmatch that features it then buy ammo for your newly acquired weapon, this will save the weapon saving you thousands. Also play test new vehicle dlc in races and in single player this will save 100's if not millions of dollars.

 

The deathmatch enthusiast, forced and pickup = free ammo without expending any of your own, except for the weapon your spawned in with (avoid Rpg, grenade launcher ones this will actually screw up your ammo, forcing you too restock) if owned and pick up, seriously stop spamming Rpg's when a rifle will do.

 

These are just examples but if you waste your resources in frivolous ways rock star is targeting you for a shark card purchase, because frankly put your being naive.

 

Your falling into the money sink without knowing it, and rock star loves it. The fact is, you have only your self too blame.

 

Last but not least, you are the one in control, but here's the true evil and guess where it is.

 

Your brain, whenever your pleasure center in the brain is stimulated you release serotonin, or the feel good drug.

 

Win a race, win a deathmatch , buy that new car, win 2$ on a scratch ticket, grief another player,fall in love, they all release serotonin , dopamine,adrenaline, and the other countless "ines" your own body produces and unfortunately anything ending in in(e) or ol is highly addictive and requires greater amounts too feel the same way.

 

Rock star isn't alone and there isn't a single company out there that doesn't capitalize on our base needs. From star bucks with its caffeine levels too the makers of candy crush saga.

 

So the next time your moaning about cash cards, your actually going through withdrawal. It's not a conspiracy it's your brain on drugs.

Edited October 11, 2014 by garvdart

[fw3]

The chemicals released by the brain that cause the most concern are:
• neorepinephrine - affects mood, motivation, and pleasure. All of which can be a result of negative gaming.
• adrenalin - elevated in advanced competitive action, affecting heart rate, accelerating thinking, and anxiety.
• dopamine - the pleasure chemical. released as the body's "reward" for attaining success through rigorous physical activity, like exercise, or through potentially stressful mental advancement (ie. leveling up).
• serotonin, from my limited understanding, is typically related to diet and metabolism, affecting mood, anxiety, and obsessive compulsivity.

You definitely make a valid point. Gaming is going to be exposed eventually, for likely being the cause of a lot of major issues, especially with young people, within the next 10-15 years. Wait...

Edited October 11, 2014 by fw3

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

i agree, people complain to much

still yea, like you say it, the fact is they are playing their shark cards tactical

[Miss Malevolent]

I'm not a cash card conspiracy theorist, but...I dunno if your arguments are really going to hold sway with those that are. I don't see where you debunked anything. You just mainly put together a cash flow/time management outline for folks which in the countless threads on this topic have already been enumerated.

Edited October 11, 2014 by Miss Malevolent

[TheJasonGallant]

All I'll say is I feel like deathmatches and races don't pay enough.

[garvdart]

Of course, you fail to mention the one elite, omnipotent presence in this game that debunks your debunkery:

And just for the record, your information is a bit off.

The chemicals released by the brain that cause the most concern are:

neorepinephrine - affects mood, motivation, and pleasure. All of which can be a result of negative gaming.

adrenalin - elevated in advanced competitive action, affecting heart rate, accelerating thinking, and anxiety.

dopamine - the pleasure chemical. released as the body's "reward" for attaining success through rigorous physical activity, like exercise, or through potentially stressful mental advancement (ie. leveling up).

serotonin, from my understanding, is typically related to diet and metabolism, affecting mood, anxiety, and obsessive compulsivity.

Your point is made and it's a valid one. I don't know a lot, but I've read quite a bit. Just saying is all.

And yes, I buy cash cards because I work in real life and don't have time to grind out my game time doing mindless jobs. Cheers!

 

You got my point exactly. Thanks for chiming in. I might not have debunked it but I think I hit the nail pretty freaking hard.

 

I used serotonin as a example only because of the fact it is directly involved in compulsion, and obsessive behavior. Which fuels all the rest.

Edited October 11, 2014 by garvdart

[SIM-1]

TL:dr. Cash cards are the devil

[Dottie]

TlDr version

GTA O is a Free 2 play game

F2P game = low rewards, high item cost, and microtransactions that are available to players who do not want to spend eons trying to obtain something

 

The fact that it is a F2P (and a very buggy one) lead to all of the money glitching, all of the resets, all of the bans for money glitching, and all of the problems due to player patience levels and the game code. Basically saying its both the playerbase and the developers fault why things are the way they are

Edited October 11, 2014 by Winning001

[garvdart]

All I'll say is I feel like deathmatches and races don't pay enough.

Think time/expenditure of resources usually races,team deathmatches and missions are the most lucrative aspects of the game as off right now.

 

And if you participate in these you actually never need too buy a shark card.

Edited October 11, 2014 by garvdart

[garvdart]

TlDr version

GTA O is a Free 2 play game

F2P game = low rewards, high item cost, and microtransactions that are available to players who do not want to spend eons trying to obtain something

 

The fact that it is a F2P (and a very buggy one) lead to all of the money glitching, all of the resets, all of the bans for money glitching, and all of the problems due to player patience levels and the game code. Basically saying its both the playerbase and the developers fault why things are the way they are

After writing my post and reading yours I had too laugh, since well you nailed it. In less than 400 words but will have too say/ add free 2 play is all about the brain chemistry of a consumer base.

[Gay Tony]

Nothing you said debunked shark card conspiracy.

 

The thinking behind these shark card conspiracies is they give developers an incentive to make the game stupidly more challenging than it should be so you buy your way out.

 

That they purposly make playing a chore because they make money from making players feel miserable, unfulfilled, and frustrated from trying to make money. In a video game.

 

 

[garvdart]

Nothing you said debunked shark card conspiracy.

 

The thinking behind these shark card conspiracies is they give developers an incentive to make the game stupidly more challenging than it should be so you buy your way out.

 

That they purposly make playing a chore because they make money from making players feel miserable, unfulfilled, and frustrated from trying to make money. In a video game.

 

Seriously, miserable, unfulfilled, frustrated....sounds like your going through some withdrawal symptoms my friend.

[matajuegos01]

if the conspiracy wasn't real the jobs would pay more, the clothing wouldn't be too f*cking expensive and there wouldn'tbe money sinks

[Sasuke Uzumaki]

I agree with your opinions on the impulse buyer.

When someone sees a tank on the warstock page, they want it really bad, even though it costs over a million dollars, then they see the cost of the buzzard, then they move on to the vehicle sites and see the cars there, but they think that they'll never get that much money by farming. Some cave in and buy shark cards, some farm, and some hate how little payouts for missions are.

Cheers to you OP!

[garvdart]

if the conspiracy wasn't real the jobs would pay more, the clothing wouldn't be too f*cking expensive and there wouldn'tbe money sinks

 

 

Jobs would pay more; 30k for a survival, 10+k for a deathmatch/team deathmatch winner, race winner depends on total players, 15 minute mission 15k+

 

Survival 10-15minutes + deathmatch 5-10 minutes(full lobby = 15-20k) + 15 minute mission = 30- 45 minutes earning 30-80k in less then a hour ... play 12 hours and you can buy a tank.

 

 

 

Clothing is cosmetic and you don't have too buy.

 

Money sink, every game has them, and 3/4 of the ones in this game can be avoided/ignored.

 

=)

Edited October 11, 2014 by garvdart

[HollywoodVice]

The fact is most are just entitled, #FOMO sufferers that think everything should be free.

 

When someone here sucks at the game they make up bullsh*t excuses for why the game itself sucks. It's typical kid behavior.

 

Just man up already, glitchers, cheaters, and illegitimates. You suck at the game. PERIOD.

[clevelandbasement]

The shark card conspiracy doesn't claim that we will be forced to buy them...

 

The idea is that virtually every aspect of online will lean toward curbing our income rate and increase the costs of items.

 

In other words, they make it increasingly difficult to resist just paying for money instead of grinding.

[Gay Tony]

The shark card conspiracy doesn't claim that we will be forced to buy them...

 

The idea is that virtually every aspect of online will lean toward curbing our income rate and increase the costs of items.

 

In other words, they make it increasingly difficult to resist just paying for money instead of grinding.

 

This. ^^

 

It's a very simple concept.

Edited October 11, 2014 by mr toasterbutt

[garvdart]

 

The shark card conspiracy doesn't claim that we will be forced to buy them...

The idea is that virtually every aspect of online will lean toward curbing our income rate and increase the costs of items.

In other words, they make it increasingly difficult to resist just paying for money instead of grinding.

 

This. ^^

 

It's a very simple concept.

And falls directly in line with the addictive nature of video games, it's not the shark card it's ones own inability too resist said temptation. That is truly the problem. Edited October 11, 2014 by garvdart

[Dumb guy]

Entirely TL. I didn't read.

Rockstar sells shart cards.

Buy one if you want.

There is no conspiracy.

[Gay Tony]

 

 

The shark card conspiracy doesn't claim that we will be forced to buy them...

The idea is that virtually every aspect of online will lean toward curbing our income rate and increase the costs of items.

In other words, they make it increasingly difficult to resist just paying for money instead of grinding.

This. ^^

 

It's a very simple concept.

And falls directly in line with the addictive nature of video games, it's not the shark card it's ones own inability too resist said temptation. That is truly the problem.

 

In this particular case, R* is making money off this very temptation. As with many, many other micro-transactions from other series.

 

You honestly think this doesn't give them any encouragement?

[garvdart]

Entirely TL. I didn't read.

Rockstar sells shart cards.

Buy one if you want.

There is no conspiracy.

Done....lock thread

 

Just kidding.

[BoeserBengel83]

Entirely TL. I didn't read.

Rockstar sells shart cards.

Buy one if you want.

There is no conspiracy.

 

Yes, no one forces a gamer to buy a shark card.

 

I'm just an average gamer and even i can make more than 100.000 a day. Just a few days of "work" and i can buy a supercar (with upgrades) oder tons of weapons and ammo.

[Gay Tony]

Entirely TL. I didn't read.

Rockstar sells shart cards.

Buy one if you want.

There is no conspiracy.

 

In the meantime, R* makes missions more difficult, nerfs payouts, and lowers the bar on how much money you can make legitimately by playing the game.

 

.....pushing and tempting more and more people to buying shark cards.

[BoeserBengel83]

Entirely TL. I didn't read.

Rockstar sells shart cards.

Buy one if you want.

There is no conspiracy.

 

Yes, no one forces a gamer to buy a shark card.

 

I'm just an average gamer and even i can make more than 100.000 a day. Just a few days of "work" and i can buy a supercar (with upgrades) oder tons of weapons and ammo.

[HollywoodVice]

 

 

Entirely TL. I didn't read.

Rockstar sells shart cards.

Buy one if you want.

There is no conspiracy.

In the meantime, R* makes missions more difficult, nerfs payouts, and lowers the bar on how much money you can make legitimately by playing the game.

 

.....pushing and tempting more and more people to buying shark cards.

"Tempting". Key word. Be strong or be weak.

 

The choice is yours only.

[fw3]

 

>snipped<

You got my point exactly. Thanks for chiming in. I might not have debunked it but I think I hit the nail pretty freaking hard.

 

I used serotonin as a example only because of the fact it is directly involved in compulsion, and obsessive behavior. Which fuels all the rest.

 

sorry, just noting that I edited my post to be more relevant and less wordy. cheers!

[Gay Tony]

"Tempting". Key word. Be strong or be weak.

The choice is yours only.

 

Yes it is a choice. Never bought a shark card and never will. Personally, I'm satisfied playing as is.

 

But that doesn't debunk shark card conspiracy. It's not about the player.

 

It's about R* making the game more of a chore overtime, so an increasing amount of the playerbase will be tempted to say to hell with it and buy a shark card.

 

That's where the shark card anger is coming from.

Edited October 11, 2014 by mr toasterbutt

[Bozzah]

it takes you about 10 hours of gameplay (missions+loading times etc) to earn 1 million dollars

 

the great white cash card costs 10 bucks and gives you 1.25 millions.... that's like one or two hours of work (for the sh*ttiest jobs)

 

 

if I had a job, I'd buy cash cards instead of grinding the money.... or just wait for another easy money glitch

[fish61324]

The OP is just another kid who just doesn't get it.

 

Shark Cards affect the way R* handles this game. All the things R* allows us to do and not do in this game is based around shark cards.

 

The cops for example. R* does not give us a choice to turn them off because having them on costs people more in game money, thus creating more shark card sales. There are countless other examples.....or at least near countless

 

Your play style doesn't matter because shark cards affect EVERYTHING in the game.

 

It's not a conspiracy, kid. It's fact. Why do you think R* is releasing only a little bit of content every now and then over the course of the last year?? It's to keep the flow of shark card sales going.

 

DLC/Microtransactions/Shark Cards..... however you want to look at it... all those things have ruined GTA V.

 

Could you imagine how marvelous and amazing GTA V would have been if DLC/Microtransaction did not exist at all. If games were released with everything already on the disc (like the good old days)

 

My guess is that the OP is around 15 years old. Too young to really remember the days where DLC didn't exist and games were released with the full intention of "wowing" the gamer, instead of just making a huge profit.

 

Anyone who was a gamer during the PS2/Xbox era and earlier..... they are wise enough to know how bad GTA V is and how bad these shark cards are.

Edited October 11, 2014 by fish61324