frostbite91 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I used to enjoy flying jets. I am decently skilled, but with more and more people complaining about jets, R* has made it nearly impossible to grab a jet without forking out $5K and once you are in one, the fun doesn't last. I wish I had a PVR to show video. This may not apply to everybody, but it happens to me quite often. First off, NPC jet is now indestructible. It can catch on fire, but after unloading into, and crashing into it, it shot me after I spawned, then flew away... still on fire...And why is the NPC jet 3 times faster than you, with it's landing gear down??? I even got shot by it, when I was BEHIND IT. It literally shot 1 bullet out of it's ass and blew me up. I understand there has to be a difficulty, but this is just plain cheating, and yet, we aren't allowed to cheat. Teach by example eh? My jet has fallen out of the sky like a brick, for no reason. I shot down a couple tanks and helicopters before this happened. It was undamaged when it fell, engine was still on...Just today, I was hunting a heli down. for some reason the rockets wouldn't lock on, so I used bullets, SOMEHOW my explosive bullets bounced off the helicopter, and hit me, causing suicide... the helicopter flew on as nothing happened. This was a player heli btw, not an NPC. No prior evidence of hacking, we were shooting him earlier. Things like this happen more often than they used to, and it seems to only happen when I am killing players a bunch. Is this the games way of handicapping the jets, to please everybody who's complaining? I feel like the game is worse off than it was a year ago. We still have horrible network issues. Due to the freezing epidemic, my PS3 Slim's hard drive is actually damaged from all the hard reset's. It got so bad, it could barely load textures anymore. I have since switched to my GF's Super Slim. Kafonix and ANDERSON961596 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justind71 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Hey, yeh they are handicapping the jets now, ala tanks what they did with them a few updates back. My son was flying one the other day and he said it just dropped out of the sky like you described, happened several times and the NPC jets definitely heating up with better accuracy and super tough. Its because people bitch and complain, soon they will make the guns weaker. Freezing is HORRIBLE, son has anger issues and broke his new cool controller on the desk last night as it just freezes all the time. They say to go into random job then back out of it, I havent froze since then, so give that a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbite91 Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 I freeze for half a second every time i make my minimap larger lol. It's horrible. I really hope all this is fixed with the better hardware in the new consoles. I doubt it though. R* went too big too fast. They dont know how to handle the load this game creates. Fist-fighting is a joke, riding a bike is ridiculous too. unless it's guns and cars, GTA can't do it right. I truly believe these issues wouldnt be as apparent if XBOX could have gone Blueray. They have to cut the game down to 16 GB's so it will fit on 2 dvd's. Bluerays are 50GB, they could have done so much more... Kafonix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RajunKjun Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Not seeing it dude. I take a helicopter in from North of zancudo right over the hangered jet, drop in and 180 into the hanger just as 4 stars pop up. Hop into jet and fly straight up until out of missle lock range, click right thumbstick to check for tailing jet and off I go. Easy. 2Chains4Bracelets and Neuling2000 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jehannum Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Hey, yeh they are handicapping the jets now, ala tanks what they did with them a few updates back. My son was flying one the other day and he said it just dropped out of the sky like you described, happened several times and the NPC jets definitely heating up with better accuracy and super tough. Its because people bitch and complain, soon they will make the guns weaker. Freezing is HORRIBLE, son has anger issues and broke his new cool controller on the desk last night as it just freezes all the time. They say to go into random job then back out of it, I havent froze since then, so give that a try. Did he break his old controller too? 2Chains4Bracelets, PandaLambpaws and don ovdi' island 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainsoar Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I shot down an NPC jet with a single rocket two nights ago. Try again. 2Chains4Bracelets 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMFtwstdHICK Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I don't know why they have to totally mess with the jets. or Tanks.. Part of the game. Some folk need that sh*t in their lives. Most can't fly , so , it's not really a big deal.. I can't fly for sh*t, so, I don't try. ahahhhaahah.. Kafonix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoobulon Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 blame griefers and griefing before blaming R* Phantomspirit, 2Chains4Bracelets and ten-a-penny 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malibu454 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I noticed that too with the jet imploding for no reason I think the R* contracted the new jets out to some hack company in China.. lol I did tear up an NPC jet that took off right behind my friend the other night. It's hit or miss for me. maybe it's the day of week or time of day. When the Iceman and Maverick are on patrol at the base your as good as dead Goose.. lol justind71 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justind71 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I freeze for half a second every time i make my minimap larger lol. It's horrible. I really hope all this is fixed with the better hardware in the new consoles. I doubt it though. R* went too big too fast. They dont know how to handle the load this game creates. Fist-fighting is a joke, riding a bike is ridiculous too. unless it's guns and cars, GTA can't do it right. I truly believe these issues wouldnt be as apparent if XBOX could have gone Blueray. They have to cut the game down to 16 GB's so it will fit on 2 dvd's. Bluerays are 50GB, they could have done so much more... Well we are all hoping it will be much much better and smoother in the next gen versions, they are vastly more powerful so they will kick ass. I agree entirely with the bluray idea. The freezes in my house dont go away and you have to reset the ps3. I don't know why they have to totally mess with the jets. or Tanks.. Part of the game. Some folk need that sh*t in their lives. Most can't fly , so , it's not really a big deal.. I can't fly for sh*t, so, I don't try. ahahhhaahah.. Haha, I thought everyone in here were elite pilots, I have a try but end up smashing into the ground and hoping the players in the surrounding area I crashed don't realise I was trying to destroy them lol Hey, yeh they are handicapping the jets now, ala tanks what they did with them a few updates back. My son was flying one the other day and he said it just dropped out of the sky like you described, happened several times and the NPC jets definitely heating up with better accuracy and super tough. Its because people bitch and complain, soon they will make the guns weaker. Freezing is HORRIBLE, son has anger issues and broke his new cool controller on the desk last night as it just freezes all the time. They say to go into random job then back out of it, I havent froze since then, so give that a try. Did he break his old controller too? No he didn't, the standard ps3 one wouldnt have broken, the new one was see through plastic and the part that broke was the part at the bottom thats down near your palm when you play, hopefully he learns a little lesson as he bought that with his own money. Jehannum and PandaLambpaws 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony_Spilotro Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Settle your problems on the ground. If you NEED a jet try flying straight up so the NPC's have a harder time getting you. Preferably above the clouds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don ovdi' island Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Now to ask the bigger question: Why TF do we have access to such military equipment such as a fighter jet or tank anyways? This type of stuff is not used by the public. Im a good pilot and honestly don't understand why this stuff is in the game. Phantomspirit, 2Chains4Bracelets and chainsoar 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xX_HailHydra_Xx Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I used to enjoy flying jets. I am decently skilled, but with more and more people complaining about jets, R* has made it nearly impossible to grab a jet without forking out $5K and once you are in one, the fun doesn't last. I wish I had a PVR to show video. This may not apply to everybody, but it happens to me quite often. First off, NPC jet is now indestructible. It can catch on fire, but after unloading into, and crashing into it, it shot me after I spawned, then flew away... still on fire... And why is the NPC jet 3 times faster than you, with it's landing gear down??? I even got shot by it, when I was BEHIND IT. It literally shot 1 bullet out of it's ass and blew me up. I understand there has to be a difficulty, but this is just plain cheating, and yet, we aren't allowed to cheat. Teach by example eh? My jet has fallen out of the sky like a brick, for no reason. I shot down a couple tanks and helicopters before this happened. It was undamaged when it fell, engine was still on... Just today, I was hunting a heli down. for some reason the rockets wouldn't lock on, so I used bullets, SOMEHOW my explosive bullets bounced off the helicopter, and hit me, causing suicide... the helicopter flew on as nothing happened. This was a player heli btw, not an NPC. No prior evidence of hacking, we were shooting him earlier. Things like this happen more often than they used to, and it seems to only happen when I am killing players a bunch. Is this the games way of handicapping the jets, to please everybody who's complaining? I feel like the game is worse off than it was a year ago. We still have horrible network issues. Due to the freezing epidemic, my PS3 Slim's hard drive is actually damaged from all the hard reset's. It got so bad, it could barely load textures anymore. I have since switched to my GF's Super Slim. Jets are just a waste. They are annoying to myself and other players because the people who steal them constantly kill people who are minded there own business. An example? I was using my cheetah after update 1.16 and going to buy the new clothes, but some jerk decided it would be fun to blow up my car for no reason other than to receive satisfaction at the death of an innocent player who did nothing to them. What was my excuse? Was he HYDRA? No? Was he some criminal? No? He was just some person who likes to make others miserable. Not surprisingly, a lot of people in GTA Online are like that. They just can't leave others alone who are busy or doing something important. Passive Mode doesn't help either, it's a waste. So Basically, the Lazer-P90 is an insult to GTA Online and to players who don't want trouble. I don't like it and I don't care if people who are having trouble using it aren't having fun with it or as a matter of fact if they took it out of the game. Phantomspirit and 2Chains4Bracelets 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyWorka Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I used to enjoy flying jets. I am decently skilled, but with more and more people complaining about jets, R* has made it nearly impossible to grab a jet without forking out $5K and once you are in one, the fun doesn't last. I wish I had a PVR to show video. This may not apply to everybody, but it happens to me quite often. First off, NPC jet is now indestructible. It can catch on fire, but after unloading into, and crashing into it, it shot me after I spawned, then flew away... still on fire... And why is the NPC jet 3 times faster than you, with it's landing gear down??? I even got shot by it, when I was BEHIND IT. It literally shot 1 bullet out of it's ass and blew me up. I understand there has to be a difficulty, but this is just plain cheating, and yet, we aren't allowed to cheat. Teach by example eh? My jet has fallen out of the sky like a brick, for no reason. I shot down a couple tanks and helicopters before this happened. It was undamaged when it fell, engine was still on... Just today, I was hunting a heli down. for some reason the rockets wouldn't lock on, so I used bullets, SOMEHOW my explosive bullets bounced off the helicopter, and hit me, causing suicide... the helicopter flew on as nothing happened. This was a player heli btw, not an NPC. No prior evidence of hacking, we were shooting him earlier. Things like this happen more often than they used to, and it seems to only happen when I am killing players a bunch. Is this the games way of handicapping the jets, to please everybody who's complaining? I feel like the game is worse off than it was a year ago. We still have horrible network issues. Due to the freezing epidemic, my PS3 Slim's hard drive is actually damaged from all the hard reset's. It got so bad, it could barely load textures anymore. I have since switched to my GF's Super Slim. It's really not that difficult to steal a jet the old fashioned way. If you get shot down just go steal another one. You just need to be patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Lynx 23 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Think I'll try an invite only session to try stealing a jet and see how long it'll fly if it doesn't get shot down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X S Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) This method was given to me a few months ago, and it's completely flawless. Fly the jet as low as can and as close as you can to the fence surrounding the Fort on your way out. The NPC jet will never spawn if you do this. Edited October 13, 2014 by Crossed Sabres erkwang and PandaLambpaws 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaltonWilliams123 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 If a Lazer tries to give me trouble, I just fly towards him then parachute out, guess the rest.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RajunKjun Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 If a Lazer tries to give me trouble, I just fly towards him then parachute out, guess the rest.. He effortlessly turns and avoids your feeble attempt at colliding with them in mid air? Respect the history of the kamikaze pilots. You fly that mofo til it crashes. Phantomspirit, 2Chains4Bracelets, Muluu and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbite91 Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 I've had the NPC spawn behind me randomly because i got away from the base too quickly for it. I've also had the npc shoot me on the ground right after I spawn 3 times in a row just because it wanted to be a dick. I didnt even have stars, and it just shot my jet down. This latest thing pissed me off though. yesterday was in a jet, saw a guy parachuting to get a crate, so i go to fly into the chute to make him fall to his death... no... my jet f*cking blew up... and he 'chuted down like nothing happened. WTF man, now parachutes are stronger than jets? I give up on this game... BL Pre-sequel is comming out tues, I could use a gta break for a bit. PandaLambpaws 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbite91 Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 I used to enjoy flying jets. I am decently skilled, but with more and more people complaining about jets, R* has made it nearly impossible to grab a jet without forking out $5K and once you are in one, the fun doesn't last. I wish I had a PVR to show video. This may not apply to everybody, but it happens to me quite often. First off, NPC jet is now indestructible. It can catch on fire, but after unloading into, and crashing into it, it shot me after I spawned, then flew away... still on fire... And why is the NPC jet 3 times faster than you, with it's landing gear down??? I even got shot by it, when I was BEHIND IT. It literally shot 1 bullet out of it's ass and blew me up. I understand there has to be a difficulty, but this is just plain cheating, and yet, we aren't allowed to cheat. Teach by example eh? My jet has fallen out of the sky like a brick, for no reason. I shot down a couple tanks and helicopters before this happened. It was undamaged when it fell, engine was still on... Just today, I was hunting a heli down. for some reason the rockets wouldn't lock on, so I used bullets, SOMEHOW my explosive bullets bounced off the helicopter, and hit me, causing suicide... the helicopter flew on as nothing happened. This was a player heli btw, not an NPC. No prior evidence of hacking, we were shooting him earlier. Things like this happen more often than they used to, and it seems to only happen when I am killing players a bunch. Is this the games way of handicapping the jets, to please everybody who's complaining? I feel like the game is worse off than it was a year ago. We still have horrible network issues. Due to the freezing epidemic, my PS3 Slim's hard drive is actually damaged from all the hard reset's. It got so bad, it could barely load textures anymore. I have since switched to my GF's Super Slim. Jets are just a waste. They are annoying to myself and other players because the people who steal them constantly kill people who are minded there own business. An example? I was using my cheetah after update 1.16 and going to buy the new clothes, but some jerk decided it would be fun to blow up my car for no reason other than to receive satisfaction at the death of an innocent player who did nothing to them. What was my excuse? Was he HYDRA? No? Was he some criminal? No? He was just some person who likes to make others miserable. Not surprisingly, a lot of people in GTA Online are like that. They just can't leave others alone who are busy or doing something important. Passive Mode doesn't help either, it's a waste. So Basically, the Lazer-P90 is an insult to GTA Online and to players who don't want trouble. I don't like it and I don't care if people who are having trouble using it aren't having fun with it or as a matter of fact if they took it out of the game. there is much butthurt with this one... DirtyWorka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Lynx 23 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I managed to steal a jet after a few attempts. Tanks kept getting me. And dog fighting the npc jet...I used a missile or two to blow a wing off it, it fell and exploded after hitting the ground. It was still alive when it got hit with two missiles though, so I guess they aren't killable with your jet. But you can still take them out. And I'll have to check if a trick I've done before will work. Two friends stole jets and flew past me when I was outside the fence. I shot two npc jets that went after them with my heavy sniper rifle. One round each, and the npc jets tried to lose altitude to avoid being shot some more. They both plowed right into the runway and exploded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaltonWilliams123 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 If a Lazer tries to give me trouble, I just fly towards him then parachute out, guess the rest.. He effortlessly turns and avoids your feeble attempt at colliding with them in mid air? Respect the history of the kamikaze pilots. You fly that mofo til it crashes. So far its worked 100% of the time.I either do that or fly into his engine, taking my prop out but he gets the most of it. I then effortlessly jump out and avoid his feeble attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbite91 Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) I managed to steal a jet after a few attempts. Tanks kept getting me. And dog fighting the npc jet...I used a missile or two to blow a wing off it, it fell and exploded after hitting the ground. It was still alive when it got hit with two missiles though, so I guess they aren't killable with your jet. But you can still take them out. And I'll have to check if a trick I've done before will work. Two friends stole jets and flew past me when I was outside the fence. I shot two npc jets that went after them with my heavy sniper rifle. One round each, and the npc jets tried to lose altitude to avoid being shot some more. They both plowed right into the runway and exploded. I've noticed usually the third time getting killed by a tank they (tanks) dont spawn... I ALSO noticed if your grab a jet and just start killing the whole lobby, when you go to get another jet few-none will spawn. a few times I have sat in the military base for over 10 min driving around and none would spawn unless another player was near. just yesterday the only one that spawned was in the hanger luckly. Edited October 25, 2014 by frostbite91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEEZYR Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Jets are for pussies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misanthrope Z Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 because not everyone's ideal freeroam experience involves getting harassed by a basement dwelling dweeb in a jet same reason tanks got nerfed ten-a-penny, DirtyWorka and Zombichh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyWorka Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Jets are for pussies Yes that males sense. Anyone who kills another player in a jet must be a female body part. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fn0000rd Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Jets are for pussies Yes that males sense. Anyone who kills another player in a jet must be a female body part. LOL Hush, you dirty vagina. Personally, I only fly jets when I'm not feeling fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthrocker Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) I don't mind the lazers being in the game. I don't mind players using them to kill others. I can understand why it bothers people, but it doesn't bug me too greatly. The thing that does bother me is the Lazer is pretty much invincible to players on foot. If someone is in a buzzard, you can get aim on the pilot, and about half the time, you can gun him down. Maybe even get him with a rocket launcher if you're quick about it. It isn't a one-sided fight. Granted, I still think it's weak for people to hunt down innocent players in a buzzard, but at least you can combat them. If someone is tormenting you in a Lazer, you might as well leave the session. You're at their mercy until they crash, or decide to stop being a dick. I really think Rockstar should give us an anti-aircraft weapon in a DLC, especially with all this speculation that the Hydra is coming back. Just something like a high speed rocket launcher that tracks like Buzzard n' Lazer missiles. Edited October 29, 2014 by earthrocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoolock Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I don't mind the lazers being in the game. I don't mind players using them to kill others. I can understand why it bothers people, but it doesn't bug me too greatly. The thing that does bother me is the Lazer is pretty much invincible to players on foot. If someone is in a buzzard, you can get aim on the pilot, and about half the time, you can gun him down. Maybe even get him with a rocket launcher if you're quick about it. It isn't a one-sided fight. Granted, I still think it's weak for people to hunt down innocent players in a buzzard, but at least you can combat them. If someone is tormenting you in a Lazer, you might as well leave the session. You're at their mercy until they crash, or decide to stop being a dick. I really think Rockstar should give us an anti-aircraft weapon in a DLC, especially with all this speculation that the Hydra is coming back. Just something like a high speed rocket launcher that tracks like Buzzard n' Lazer missiles. Would love a missile to fend off the jets or they could just give us an option via Merryweather so we can call in the NPC jet if your getting hassled by another player in a laser or buzzard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kafonix Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 It honestly feels like we were flying some German military gear. Just falling from the sky randomly is not a realistic jet handling code outside Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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