Snoops27 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) It's nice, but flickers between ps2 style colour and pc colour when I move the camera around. Controller and mouse 14,383,616 bytes EDIT: Flickering was caused by enabling twopassrendering in silentpatch Edited October 8, 2014 by snoops26 Inadequate, RyanDri3957V and Neddo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erorcun Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) I actually found out how the effect is done a few months ago and contacted Dexx who implemented it, although it's not bug free. I'm not sure that what I found out is 100% correct since the rendering in pcsx2 is a bit messed up, but it's already damn close. The formula is this: out.rgb = color*(rgb1 + rgb2*a2)*2 This is the latest version he sent me. I'm not sure if he's ok with me posting the source, so this is the binary only for now. http://aap.papnet.eu/gta/d3d9_post.zip Just place the files into your SA directory and hope that it will work with your version of the exe. He also set the fog far value to constant 450.0 like on the PS2. You can make screenshots for comparison with the unprocessed screen. The bug I was talking about is that the HUD sometimes disappears (seems to be weather or zone dependent). This is because he didn't know where exactly in the code to do the effect. If it were somehow possible to do it the same place the PC version does it's thing it should look perfect. Maybe someone else can figure that out once the source is released. So, have fun with it. Default SA formula is already color * (rgb1 + rgb2) so it was only lacking *2 ? That's it? Damn. From my assumptions, NTAuthority can easily do it. He's lovely.asi is bugfree. And thanks for finding formula Edited October 8, 2014 by erorcun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hero Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) What do you mean by 'default formula'? The PC version doesn't even use the RGBA1/2 values from the timecyc.dat as far as I know. Changing them to zero had no effect for me at least. I don't know where the PC game gets its color values from and I don't quite remember how it renders the frame with them but I think it's quite different from the PS2 version. But this doesn't matter now anyway. Edited October 8, 2014 by THE HERO re3, reVC Tools: RenderWare file converter, DFF importer and exporter for 3ds max III, VC, SA: SkyGfx: PS2 and Xbox graphics for PC, PS2 and Xbox vehicles for PC, Debug menu III, VC: rwd3d9, sharptrails, PS2 and Xbox map for PC III: Skin and Bones, Into TheTimecycle!!!, LC98 VC: Beta Infernus, Phoenix and Cop car SA: PS2 to PC map General: Simple DLL loader My Workshop. Also visit me on github. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erorcun Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 What do you mean by 'default formula'? The PC version doesn't even use the RGBA1/2 values from the timecyc.dat as far as I know. Changing them to zero had no effect for me at least. I don't know where the PC game gets its color values from and I don't quite remember how it renders the frame with them but I think it's quite different from the PS2 version. But this doesn't matter now anyway. It uses; http://gtaforums.com/topic/661961-gta-sa-mobile-to-pc-research-project/page-23?do=findComment&comment=1066289364 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dorado Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) Now wait a minute, I was not good at math while in college, so explain it to me. All there is to do is double the values from CC RBG? Chances there's is no need of a plugin to do it then. And heh, there is still something missing Edited October 8, 2014 by format c: mirh, RyanDri3957V, Snoops27 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-KING- Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Color Saturation is missing Snoops27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erorcun Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) Now wait a minute, I was not good at math while in college, so explain it to me. All there is to do is double the values from CC RBG? Chances there's is no need of a plugin to do it then. And heh, there is still something missing Doubling could do the job. About images, I don't think we can do that with color correction, it may need sun modification. (But it's still awesome ) Could you try copying RGB2 value to RGB1? without using asi or doubling values. Edited October 8, 2014 by erorcun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoops27 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Maybe silent could patch it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erorcun Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 Maybe silent could patch it? Of course he can, but firstly we should find perfect formula =D Snoops27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hero Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 It's the sun that's wrong. I haven't exactly figured out how it's rendered differently but it's much larger and one pass is rendered without ztest/-write. Snoops27 1 re3, reVC Tools: RenderWare file converter, DFF importer and exporter for 3ds max III, VC, SA: SkyGfx: PS2 and Xbox graphics for PC, PS2 and Xbox vehicles for PC, Debug menu III, VC: rwd3d9, sharptrails, PS2 and Xbox map for PC III: Skin and Bones, Into TheTimecycle!!!, LC98 VC: Beta Infernus, Phoenix and Cop car SA: PS2 to PC map General: Simple DLL loader My Workshop. Also visit me on github. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoops27 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 seabed.ipl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dorado Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 What, CC RGB 2 to CC RGB 1? You mean both with the same values? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erorcun Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 What, CC RGB 2 to CC RGB 1? You mean both with the same values? Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dorado Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) Sun's a little bigger? (Of course this is without the plugin) Here's the timecyc https://www.sendspace.com/file/2r17p9 EDIT - Seabed does the trick. The formula by the hero is correct. However there is a bit of blur/bloom missing. So if anyone are planning to redo the plug'in, apart from fixing the mentioned bugs, could scrap the 450 smog distance... it's really not needed Edited October 8, 2014 by format c: Snoops27 and VERSA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erorcun Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) Only difference between copying RGB2 to RGB1 and Hero's formula is 2xRGB1, so RGB1 makes sense too. It seems Hero already found it months ago. Btw, what's seabed trick? Edited October 8, 2014 by erorcun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hero Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Ok, here is the source: http://aap.papnet.eu/gta/d3d9_dll_stripped.zip I have no idea why you guys are changing values in the timecyc.dat, the file is correct already. As I said, the sun isn't rendered the same way, that's why it looks different. Snoops27, rainlys and Concavax 3 re3, reVC Tools: RenderWare file converter, DFF importer and exporter for 3ds max III, VC, SA: SkyGfx: PS2 and Xbox graphics for PC, PS2 and Xbox vehicles for PC, Debug menu III, VC: rwd3d9, sharptrails, PS2 and Xbox map for PC III: Skin and Bones, Into TheTimecycle!!!, LC98 VC: Beta Infernus, Phoenix and Cop car SA: PS2 to PC map General: Simple DLL loader My Workshop. Also visit me on github. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoops27 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) Btw, what's seabed trick? seabed.ipl contains bigger sun and draw distance from PS2 http://www.mediafire.com/download/3dpql7i3a0pddyf/GTA+SA+PS2+Stuff.zip Edited October 8, 2014 by snoops26 erorcun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dorado Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) I have no idea why you guys are changing values in the timecyc.dat, the file is correct already. Trying to achieve the same effect without a plug in Edited October 8, 2014 by format c: Snoops27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erorcun Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) Btw, what's seabed trick? seabed.ipl contains bigger sun and draw distance from PS2 http://www.mediafire.com/download/3dpql7i3a0pddyf/GTA+SA+PS2+Stuff.zipOmg it makes big difference. There is nothing left. It seems founding PS2's secret took 10 years Thanks to everyone. Edited October 8, 2014 by erorcun Snoops27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dorado Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 soft as silk RyanDri3957V, Lowi, Neddo and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowi Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Holy sh*t, that looks amazing! Snoops27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-KING- Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erorcun Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) @NTAuthority We're awaiting your asi with new formula in Mod Showroom Edited October 8, 2014 by erorcun Snoops27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_CP_ Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 @format:c? What did you used to recreate that effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erorcun Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 @format:c? What did you used to recreate that effect? Uhmm, read thread? Seabed and hero's dll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dorado Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Sadly Alexander's Blade Motion Blur Advanced don't work with that CP - Plug'in provided by The Hero, timecycp renamed as timecyc and PS2 seabed.ipl Snoops27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hero Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Don't forget this was done by Dexx, I just found out how the effect was done. re3, reVC Tools: RenderWare file converter, DFF importer and exporter for 3ds max III, VC, SA: SkyGfx: PS2 and Xbox graphics for PC, PS2 and Xbox vehicles for PC, Debug menu III, VC: rwd3d9, sharptrails, PS2 and Xbox map for PC III: Skin and Bones, Into TheTimecycle!!!, LC98 VC: Beta Infernus, Phoenix and Cop car SA: PS2 to PC map General: Simple DLL loader My Workshop. Also visit me on github. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 ...how can seabed.ipl affect the environment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_CP_ Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 @format:c? What did you used to recreate that effect? Uhmm, read thread? Seabed and hero's dll. I just wanted to get actual files, I have read entire topic few hours ago. It's weird, why seabed.ipl have something to do with draw distance of objects and sun size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dorado Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) PC seabed.ipl doesn't have these lines, present in PS2 version tcyc6.2478, -2892.36, -158.185, 2997.18, -766.354, 141.815, 450, 0, 0, 350, 1532.768, 742.559, -39.3255, 2932.84, 2803.39, 260.674, 550, 0, 0, 350, 1-2969.91, -980.713, -133.391, -1675.44, 1555.12, 140.909, 550, 0, 0, 250, 12103.31, -12.2417, 0, 2583.41, 309.758, 100, 850, 0, 0, 250, 11029.24, -23.6125, 0, 1509.34, 298.388, 100, 850, 0, 0, 250, 1-2110.79, -84.827, -96.3997, -1910.79, 675.173, 52.6743, 450, 0, 0, 150, 1-2836.4, 860.261, -92.9883, -2636.4, 1342.18, 56.0855, 450, 0, 0, 150, 1-1451.74, -1842.4, -11.5075, -811.741, -760.216, 180.992, 1000, 0, 0, 100, 0.9 Edited October 8, 2014 by format c: Agem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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