zuckmeslow Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 for those of you (like me) that think GTA V is not the best gta game or, not the best game in general. how do you think your opinion will change once the next gen release comes out. do you think this is something that could in fact change your opinion on the game. me personally i give gta v on the xbox 360 a 5.5/10 but i wonder, what will my opinion be once i get the game for ps4. it seems that they are adding or putting back things that the game did not have last gen. it could be assumed that this ps4/xbox one version of the game is the real version of gta v, the one that looked alive in trailer 1, 2 and the character trailers. hopefully, we dont get the same gta v we got last year with better graphics. hopefully this is the real one. how do you think your opinion will change? feel the magic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan-KCR Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Of course it will be better. This is indeed what it was meant to be, but LG couldn't handle much more. theGTAking101 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaCosta Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 I'm not going to attack your opinion of GTA (I personally find it impossible to think someone could genuinely mark it beneath a 8/10) but I don't think next-gen could improve the game for you unless: - You rate a game purely on its graphics, framerate, number of NPC models being processed simultaneously. - You rate GTA's purely on the number of interiors you can enter. Because I think the "Next-Gen" GTA will certainly be the same game, with the same characters, the same story, the same missions and the same "Los Santos feel". (But probably with more enterable interiors.) If you already don't like the feel of GTA - the vibe - then you wont like the next-gen version. For me, I can't wait, because I love the "current-gen" (last-gen) feel of Los Santos (10/10) - I love exploring and living in that city and surrounding countryside/desert/coastline, even after a year - and the next-gen will enhance that whole vibe thoroughly. If I see animals in GTA: Online I will cry. But yes, the changes will only be cosmetic. Although I do hope (beyond hope) that they will also release new DLC, new mappage and GTA: Online 2. Sigh. If only!!! Shmaf, Majewski79, fac316 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.O.D.88 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) My opinion on Next-Gen release depends on whether or not Rockstar properly restores single-player to the magic of trailers 1 and 2 and restores the massive amount of content that was cut. If they continue with their online obsession then I'm done with this game and the rest of crockstar games. Ubisoft, Volition and bethesda and Naughty Dog are much more Single-Player friendly Devs anyway. Edited October 6, 2014 by A.O.D.88 Luddite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlitoDorito Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 My opinion of the animals fur will change, so will my opinion on the grass. NEEGOLAZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaCosta Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 My opinion on Next-Gen release depends on whether or not Rockstar properly restores single-player to the magic of trailers 1 and 2 and restores the massive amount of content that was cut. So is it true to say that you are just after better rendered graphics then? Because I think you might be in luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXVIII Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 New-Gen Grand Theft Auto: V is poised to be a really scintillating gem as demonstrated by all of the content that eyes can bare right now, though the experience and the true joy will be measured with your controller firmly ascertained, and a sample of just a few minutes of the New-Gen action. You will be able to put in your best terms after perceptive listening is triggered, whilst being serenaded by the 1980s-esque 'North Yankton Memories' The new additions will enhance the cosmetic and altruistic beauty that was introduced in Last-Gen Grand Theft Auto: V and leap from the rudimentary level to the: 'Wow, these are vehicle interiors, water ripples, sinking sunsets and emergency vehicles' strobes / light bar luminosity in 1080p level!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyper Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) Unless there is some very noticeable changes in the next-gen verison, the game is going to be the same. I mean, I don't like fighting mechanics, the shooting, the driving.. I honestly don't expect Rockstar to make the game more appealing for me - I have all my hope (and trust) in modders. Rockstar is aiming for the casual, no-brain audience and that's their choice. Edited October 6, 2014 by Cyper robban and A.O.D.88 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.O.D.88 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Unless there is some very noticeable changes in the next-gen verison, the game is going to be the same. I mean, I don't like fighting mechanics, the shooting, the driving.. I honestly don't expect Rockstar to make the game more appealing for me - I have all my hope (and trust) in modders. Rockstar is aiming for the casual, no-brain audience and that's their choice. Yep pretty much sums up their Online obsession! robban 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaCosta Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) Unless there is some very noticeable changes in the next-gen verison, the game is going to be the same. I mean, I don't like fighting mechanics, the shooting, the driving.. I honestly don't expect Rockstar to make the game more appealing for me - I have all my hope (and trust) in modders. Rockstar is aiming for the casual, no-brain audience and that's their choice. Yep pretty much sums up their Online obsession! I don't think they are going to change the fighting mechanics, the shooting or the driving. Just as they won't update the story or the characters. They might be obsessed with Online but they didn't sacrifice the single-player in any way (except due to console limitations.) They were just as obsessed with their design of single player - an utterly fantastic spectacle of a game - and next-gen will enhance their vision. Edited October 6, 2014 by DaCosta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyper Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) Unless there is some very noticeable changes in the next-gen verison, the game is going to be the same. I mean, I don't like fighting mechanics, the shooting, the driving.. I honestly don't expect Rockstar to make the game more appealing for me - I have all my hope (and trust) in modders. Rockstar is aiming for the casual, no-brain audience and that's their choice. Yep pretty much sums up their Online obsession! I don't think they are going to change the fighting mechanics, the shooting or the driving. Just as they won't update the story or the characters. They might be obsessed with Online but they didn't sacrifice the single-player in any way (except due to console limitations.) They were just as obsessed with their design of single player - an utterly fantastic spectacle of a game - and next-gen will enhance their vision. Whenever it was due to console limitations is an open question. But console limitation isn't all of it - the fact is that Rockstar is trying to appeal to a wider audience. The only way to do that is to dumb down the game. Anyway, the 'console limitation' is an open question that you will see an answer to when GTA V is released to the PC. My guess is this: Don't get your hopes up and expect features that were lacking in the console version to suddenly be added or polished. Edited October 6, 2014 by Cyper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 I don't think it will. A new coat of paint won't heal the damage done. Unless, they greatly expand North Yankton to the point where it's actually a visitable, solid place. And even then, that's being generous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuckmeslow Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) Unless there is some very noticeable changes in the next-gen verison, the game is going to be the same. I mean, I don't like fighting mechanics, the shooting, the driving.. I honestly don't expect Rockstar to make the game more appealing for me - I have all my hope (and trust) in modders. Rockstar is aiming for the casual, no-brain audience and that's their choice. Yep pretty much sums up their Online obsession! I don't think they are going to change the fighting mechanics, the shooting or the driving. Just as they won't update the story or the characters. They might be obsessed with Online but they didn't sacrifice the single-player in any way (except due to console limitations.) They were just as obsessed with their design of single player - an utterly fantastic spectacle of a game - and next-gen will enhance their vision. i personally feel like the single player was way too short and poorly written. it had fantastic voice acting and performances from every actor but unfortunately many characters either got shoehorned into the story with little to no development or they got written out of the story extremely fast. when i saw franklins trailer, i thought simeon was going to play a bigger part of the game. no hes only in 2 missions and is never heard from again what about tanisha, she shows up randomly and we are to assume that franklin has feelings for her but, us as the players dont feel any connection because as soon as she shows up, she gets removed from the game. what about franklins aunt. she has no relevance to the story. we got a couple of jokes from her but there is no tension. no "oh sh*t i have to go home before the ballas kill my aunt" none of that. agent sanchez, i didnt even know who this dude was until my second play through because his appearence is so generic i thought he was some random agent who gets shot in the head. but no hes actually a "character" that we are supposed to have feelings towards. Madrazo gets plopped into the story and is built up to be the antagonist. nope hes just a minor character that disapears halfway into the game. wei cheng. who is wei cheng? is he the guy from sleeping dogs? is he the real main villain? i dont know, but one thing i do know is the old couple that calls trevor "jock cranley" has more character development than wei cheng. im sorry if this mini rant might be views as off topic, these are just my opinions so please if you disagree with me i dont mean to disrespect. im just clarifying why i gave it a 5.5/10. i know the story wont get changed around too much but maybe we can see more side missions and expansions of the characters Edited October 6, 2014 by zuckmeslow A.O.D.88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaCosta Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Unless there is some very noticeable changes in the next-gen verison, the game is going to be the same. I mean, I don't like fighting mechanics, the shooting, the driving.. I honestly don't expect Rockstar to make the game more appealing for me - I have all my hope (and trust) in modders. Rockstar is aiming for the casual, no-brain audience and that's their choice. Yep pretty much sums up their Online obsession! I don't think they are going to change the fighting mechanics, the shooting or the driving. Just as they won't update the story or the characters. They might be obsessed with Online but they didn't sacrifice the single-player in any way (except due to console limitations.) They were just as obsessed with their design of single player - an utterly fantastic spectacle of a game - and next-gen will enhance their vision. Whenever it was due to console limitations is an open question. But console limitation isn't all of it - the fact is that Rockstar is trying to appeal to a wider audience. The only way to do that is to dumb down the game. Anyway, the 'console limitation' is an open question that you will see an answer to when GTA V is released to the PC. My guess is this: Don't get your hopes up and expect features that were lacking in the console version to suddenly be added or polished. I don't think they are going to un-dumb down the game either (I presume through changing driving physics to GTA IV's and removing mission checkpoints or auto-health restore etc) We will find out whether console limitations was an issue if they open up stuff like the casino, the strip clubs, the fast food joints, the Fleeca banks in Online, animals in Online etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnocchi Flip Flops Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 If V has... : - enterable restaurants (clubs especially) - purchaseable safehouses in SP (beach houses, maybe a mansion, a beach house in Paleto, and a house in Vespucci along the Canals) - more cars from IV and polished up cars (maybe even an option for IV driving physics) - more things to buy, period - better ways to make money - more interesting CRIME related activities ... then my opinion of it will change. But if not then my opinion won't change and I simply wouldn't buy it, it would pretty much be just prettied up pos. A.O.D.88 and Kampret 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaCosta Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 i personally feel like the single player was way too short and poorly written. it had fantastic voice acting and performances from every actor but unfortunately many characters either got shoehorned into the story with little to no development or they got written out of the story extremely fast. when i saw franklins trailer, i thought simeon was going to play a bigger part of the game. no hes only in 2 missions and is never heard from again what about tanisha, she shows up randomly and we are to assume that franklin has feelings for her but, us as the players dont feel any connection because as soon as she shows up, she gets removed from the game. what about franklins aunt. she has no relevance to the story. we got a couple of jokes from her but there is no tension. no "oh sh*t i have to go home before the ballas kill my aunt" none of that. agent sanchez, i didnt even know who this dude was until my second play through because his appearence is so generic i thought he was some random agent who gets shot in the head. but no hes actually a "character" that we are supposed to have feelings towards. Madrazo gets plopped into the story and is built up to be the antagonist. nope hes just a minor character that disapears halfway into the game. wei cheng. who is wei cheng? is he the guy from sleeping dogs? is he the real main villain? i dont know, but one thing i do know is the old couple that calls trevor "jock cranley" has more character development than wei cheng. im sorry if this mini rant might be views as off topic, these are just my opinions so please if you disagree with me i dont mean to disrespect. im just clarifying why i gave it a 5.5/10. i know the story wont get changed around too much but maybe we can see more side missions and expansions of the characters I don't disagree with a lot of your points above. The story is the weak point of GTA V - but I feel the same about all GTA's. They have great moments and good characters but generally drift after a confident start. I felt this way about all GTA's, with possibly the exception of Vice City, which had good escalation - property and business acquirement, building an empire - and some really harsh twists, plus a great ending. So I guess I don't play GTA's for the story (although each game is crying out for an absolute top-quality plotline!) The main characters could have better story arcs and the extras are pretty average but who would write Trevor out of the GTA universe? Or Madrazo? Or Michael and his family? Or the Epsilon Society? Or that old couple that worships celebrity? They're not all terrible characters. They're just typical GTA characters. But yes, I agree though that there are no enemies as good as Tenpenny or Lance Vance. Story is good - not best ever. Characters are good - not best ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjansing82 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Alot of missions got cut, I'm hoping that they are put back in. A.O.D.88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.O.D.88 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 If V has... : - enterable restaurants (clubs especially) - purchaseable safehouses in SP (beach houses, maybe a mansion, a beach house in Paleto, and a house in Vespucci along the Canals) - more cars from IV and polished up cars (maybe even an option for IV driving physics) - more things to buy, period - better ways to make money - more interesting CRIME related activities ... then my opinion of it will change. But if not then my opinion won't change and I simply wouldn't buy it, it would pretty much be just prettied up pos. Post of the thread right here guys! This list that Sting4S has posted right here is a must for me if I'm going to buy the PS4 version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.O.D.88 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Alot of missions got cut, I'm hoping that they are put back in. Yep and we can thank Online for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaCosta Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Alot of missions got cut, I'm hoping that they are put back in. Do you reckon? Is this known info - and if so, do you know what the cut missions were? (Interested.) If V has... : - enterable restaurants (clubs especially) - purchaseable safehouses in SP (beach houses, maybe a mansion, a beach house in Paleto, and a house in Vespucci along the Canals) - more cars from IV and polished up cars (maybe even an option for IV driving physics) - more things to buy, period - better ways to make money - more interesting CRIME related activities ... then my opinion of it will change. But if not then my opinion won't change and I simply wouldn't buy it, it would pretty much be just prettied up pos. Post of the thread right here guys! This list that Sting4S has posted right here is a must for me if I'm going to buy the PS4 version. Rumours are that club interiors are in the code and restaurants were enterable and functionable in GTA IV, so - considering they're all around Los Santos - I'm pretty sure this will be true. Purchasable safehouses in SP? Maybe not, but I very much hope so too. More cars? Yes. GTA IV driving physics option? I doubt it (although I'd be curious to see what percentage actually turned it on (10%? Less?)), more things to buy? Yes. There's more things to buy every month. Better ways to make money? Difficult to define but there will be more mini-games so... More interesting crime related activities? Let's hope so! Basically, some of these things are very likely. A.O.D.88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlitoDorito Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) Alot of missions got cut, I'm hoping that they are put back in. Do you reckon? Is this known info - and if so, do you know what the cut missions were? (Interested.) If V has... : - enterable restaurants (clubs especially) - purchaseable safehouses in SP (beach houses, maybe a mansion, a beach house in Paleto, and a house in Vespucci along the Canals) - more cars from IV and polished up cars (maybe even an option for IV driving physics) - more things to buy, period - better ways to make money - more interesting CRIME related activities ... then my opinion of it will change. But if not then my opinion won't change and I simply wouldn't buy it, it would pretty much be just prettied up pos. Post of the thread right here guys! This list that Sting4S has posted right here is a must for me if I'm going to buy the PS4 version. Rumours are that club interiors are in the code and restaurants were enterable and functionable in GTA IV, so - considering they're all around Los Santos - I'm pretty sure this will be true. Purchasable safehouses in SP? Maybe not, but I very much hope so too. More cars? Yes. GTA IV driving physics option? I doubt it (although I'd be curious to see what percentage actually turned it on (10%? Less?)), more things to buy? Yes. There's more things to buy every month. Better ways to make money? Difficult to define but there will be more mini-games so... More interesting crime related activities? Let's hope so! Basically, some of these things are very likely. http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php?t=62849 you can find the cut missions (and the other cut stuff) here. Edited October 6, 2014 by CarlitoDorito DaCosta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.O.D.88 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Alot of missions got cut, I'm hoping that they are put back in. Do you reckon? Is this known info - and if so, do you know what the cut missions were? (Interested.) If V has... : - enterable restaurants (clubs especially) - purchaseable safehouses in SP (beach houses, maybe a mansion, a beach house in Paleto, and a house in Vespucci along the Canals) - more cars from IV and polished up cars (maybe even an option for IV driving physics) - more things to buy, period - better ways to make money - more interesting CRIME related activities ... then my opinion of it will change. But if not then my opinion won't change and I simply wouldn't buy it, it would pretty much be just prettied up pos. Post of the thread right here guys! This list that Sting4S has posted right here is a must for me if I'm going to buy the PS4 version. Rumours are that club interiors are in the code and restaurants were enterable and functionable in GTA IV, so - considering they're all around Los Santos - I'm pretty sure this will be true. Purchasable safehouses in SP? Maybe not, but I very much hope so too. More cars? Yes. GTA IV driving physics option? I doubt it (although I'd be curious to see what percentage actually turned it on (10%? Less?)), more things to buy? Yes. There's more things to buy every month. Better ways to make money? Difficult to define but there will be more mini-games so... More interesting crime related activities? Let's hope so! Basically, some of these things are very likely. See that's thing, the Single-Player gameplay trailer advertised this as being in the game but at the last minute they made it an online only feature. If they can put it in last gen online, they surely can for Next-Gen version single-player due to the greatly increased RAM and Processing power. Console limitations will no longer be a convenient excuse for Rockstar anymore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.O.D.88 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php?t=62849 you can find the cut missions here. Look at all that cut content! What's utterly rediculous is that you have some posters here that have the audacity to call the Single-Player a "Complete Game" Yeah, a hollowed out and gutted product is a "Complete Game" alright! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DopeFresh Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 it will be practically the same game. just better graphics, more ai, new animals, and new cars. and maybe a few new features. Not worth spending another $60. A.O.D.88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjansing82 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Regardless of why they felt like they had to cut it, you have to admit what would the story look like if it was put back in. Hell there we supposed to be 2 heist I believe. Plus more randoms and SAF missions. A.O.D.88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan-KCR Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 it will be practically the same game. just better graphics, more ai, new animals, and new cars. and maybe a few new features. Not worth spending another $60. Don't forget first person. And possibly timed exclusive DLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlitoDorito Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 One cut mission involved stealing a horse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.O.D.88 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 it will be practically the same game. just better graphics, more ai, new animals, and new cars. and maybe a few new features. Not worth spending another $60. Yep more than likely that's exactly what Onlinestar will do. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they also cancelled the SP DLC and moved all its content to the Online! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjansing82 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) I plan on buying this game regardless of how it turns out, mostly out of the fact I like the PS4 better and to get off of the last gen. Rockstar has said that the remaster will be better than what we can imagine, which I take with a grain of salt cause if it were better than we could imagine it would never come out. But regardless that is a bold statement that I intend on taking up, I hope that it is thought. Edited October 6, 2014 by mjansing82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fac316 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 I want more life in the game, and you know what I mean when you go up to most of the mountains, robban 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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