South Carolina trooper shoots unarmed black man

[Kampioen]

Holy sh*t. That was insane. So explain to me again how a high likelyhood of random citizens carrying a gun makes everyone safer? Oh yeah, to protect yourself against the police state right? I guess the victim should have shot the cop first then, and everything would have been cool?

 

By the way, I don't think shooting a gun inside a gas station would blow up the gas station. Probably a one in a million shot to blow it up or even set fire to it. I watch a lot of Mythbusters.

[make total destroy]

Holy sh*t, they sell guns in a store yet they call police when somebody holds one? lol

Not a real gun, mind you, but a BB/pellet gun. In the cop's defense--a phrase I seldom utter--the person that made the 911 call said Crawford was walking around the store, waving the gun at shoppers--a claim he would later deny. Hardly seems like a reason to execute someone on the spot, though.

[gtamann123]

Lol wow thank god I'm not black. I guess I was actually born with one privilege in this world and that's the ability to not be killed by police over nothing.

Edited September 28, 2014 by gtamann123

[Skeever]

I normally support cops, but this guy getting fired (and possibly facing prison/charges) is for the best. Clearly he isn't responsible enough for a badge and gun.

The driver wasn't even doing anything suspicious, just turning around and casually retrieving his license after the officer asked him to. The cop firing his weapon at the driver with little to no warning doesn't help his case, either.

[make total destroy]

Lol wow thank god I'm not black. I guess I was actually born with one privilege in this world and that's the ability to not be killed by police over nothing.

You can still be killed by the police over nothing--I had a cop threaten to "blow my head off" for trespassing--it's just statistically far less likely to happen to us white folks. I'm glad you're willing to acknowledge that white privilege is very much real, though.

[Mr. House]

Police are much less likely to give a sh*t and are much more likely to stick the boot in if you're in a poor neighbourhood too, even if you're white. Even if you call them they still treat you like a c*nt. That is if they bother to turn up at all.

[QuackinAColdOne]

There really is no getting away from "racism / anti-racism" sh*t. The way I see it, everything is associated with color, whether people are defending the cop or defending the black person. In my view, black people are more racist than white people now (at least more publicly racist). They can get away with it.

 

Every go on Twitter? Black people tweeting "White people be like" and "#StopWhitePeople2014". I know it's a joke and it's funny. But, if a white guy did the same thing but, vice versa, he would be harassed and called a racist.

 

The thing is that, you can never really tell if people are racists because, some people are less sensitive than others and don't take things like that to heart. Those are the people I associate with most since, it's a more laid back type of humor and you are not worried about what you say.

 

Back on to the cop video, the cop is a dumbass for: not only shooting him after following orders, but shooting (not accurately) at a gas station, putting many lives in danger. He obviously didn't follow protocol: "Hands behind your head, reach into your vehicle very slowly" or reaching in himself. I don't know how it works. Maybe he's racist, or scared, we'll never know.

 

We can all learn one thing from this, though:

 

Always wear your seatbelt.

 

[Mr. House]

There really is no getting away from "racism / anti-racism" sh*t. The way I see it, everything is associated with color, whether people are defending the cop or defending the black person. In my view, black people are more racist than white people now (at least more publicly racist). They can get away with it.

 

Every go on Twitter? Black people tweeting "White people be like" and "#StopWhitePeople2014". I know it's a joke and it's funny. But, if a white guy did the same thing but, vice versa, he would be harassed and called a racist.

 

The thing is that, you can never really tell if people are racists because, some people are less sensitive than others and don't take things like that to heart. Those are the people I associate with most since, it's a more laid back type of humor and you are not worried about what you say.

 

Back on to the cop video, the cop is a dumbass for: not only shooting him after following orders, but shooting (not accurately) at a gas station, putting many lives in danger. He obviously didn't follow protocol: "Hands behind your head, reach into your vehicle very slowly" or reaching in himself. I don't know how it works. Maybe he's racist, or scared, we'll never know.

 

We can all learn one thing from this, though:

 

Always wear your seatbelt.

 

The twitter thing is no big deal for the same reason 'cracker' is nowhere near as offensive as 'ni**er' white people aren't oppressed or discriminated against.

 

You can't justifiably hold two groups by the same standard when one group is oppressed and the other the oppressor.

[gtamann123]

Police are much less likely to give a sh*t and are much more likely to stick the boot in if you're in a poor neighbourhood too, even if you're white. Even if you call them they still treat you like a c*nt. That is if they bother to turn up at all.

I currently live in a poor neighborhood and the police are here almost nightly. So I think they bother to show up. But yeah they generally aren't as helpful to poor folks as they are rich folks. I've known that ever since I lived in that section 8 apartment place when I was like 10. The cops just showed up and did whatever half asset job they could to take care of the situation and then left as quick as possible because they had better sh*t to do then to help us poor ass motherf*ckers out.

 

@Your post directly above me: I don't think blanketing all White people as "Oppressors" helps out at all. Like 99% of white people aren't in a position of power and are unable to oppress anyone. The whole issue is more of a class issue than a racial issue. If Black people happened to have been the dominant race that colonized the land and rose to power in this country some 200+ years ago they would have oppressed whites the same way whites oppressed blacks.

 

So it's not that "100% of white people are evil oppressors of blacks" it's more of "the economic elite, which happens to be white put of circumstance, oppresses and exploits everyone below them as much as they can. And blacks were the easiest target so they got the sh*t ties end of the stick. But they will oppress and exploit poor whites the same way if they have to power to"

 

I think that when people take issues that are linked more to Economic Class and instead blame them solely on race it overcomplicates the issues. The economic elite will oppress and exploit anyone they can regardless of race.

Edited September 29, 2014 by gtamann123

[Mr. House]

 

Police are much less likely to give a sh*t and are much more likely to stick the boot in if you're in a poor neighbourhood too, even if you're white. Even if you call them they still treat you like a c*nt. That is if they bother to turn up at all.

I currently live in a poor neighborhood and the police are here almost nightly. So I think they bother to show up. But yeah they generally aren't as helpful to poor folks as they are rich folks. I've known that ever since I lived in that section 8 apartment place when I was like 10. The cops just showed up and did whatever half asset job they could to take care of the situation and then left as quick as possible because they had better sh*t to do then to help us poor ass motherf*ckers out.

 

@Your post directly above me: I don't think blanketing all White people as "Oppressors" helps out at all. Like 99% of white people aren't in a position of power and are unable to oppress anyone. The whole issue is more of a class issue than a racial issue. If Black people happened to have been the dominant race that colonized the land and rose to power in this country some 200+ years ago they would have oppressed whites the same way whites oppressed blacks.

 

So it's not that "100% of white people are evil oppressors of blacks" it's more of "the economic elite, which happens to be white put of circumstance, oppresses and exploits everyone below them as much as they can. And blacks were the easiest target so they got the sh*t ties end of the stick. But they will oppress and exploit poor whites the same way if they have to power to"

I'm not blanketing anyone as anything. Apologies if my statement was unclear. What I mean to say is that the current social and political systems are geared towards white males and blacks were actively systematically oppressed via slavery as opposed to passive oppression of the majority of people.

 

A black person making jokes about white people being bad dancers or being uptight or whatever isn't offensive to white people because these aren't words or stereotypes used to actively keep people down.

 

I agree that class issues are in a sense a big factor, but you can't make judgment calls on poor people by the way they look and that is the whole point.

Edited September 29, 2014 by Myron

[gtamann123]

Fair enough. It's just that I have seen enough white people be sh*t on and pushed to the limit both economically and socially that I really don't see poverty or social issues as a solely black issue like some people do. When I lived in that low income housing project when I was younger it was about 40% white and 40% black with the other 20% being Asians and Hispanics. White poverty and struggle exists it's just not as visible as black poverty because white people who are poor are less likely to speak out or to actively seek asistance because they are humiliated or embarrassed. And white people are more likely to be members of the working poor. Who work and are ineligible for government assistance but bring in roughly the same amount of money as blacks who are out of the workforce on welfare so their standard of living isn't any higher despite being considered to be in a "higher" economic class. (This was my family most of my childhood).

 

But yes I agree that in the past the disparities were more dramatic and blacks have been systematically discriminated against. But I think the modern age it's growing less and less about race and race is almost irrelevant in some areas now. It's only Rich vs. Poor with race having no factor of who get sh*t on. If a black man rises up and becomes wealthy he sh*ts in everyone. If an Asian man rises up and becomes wealthy he sh*t's on everyone.

 

We need to focus more on economic class than race. Literally all forms of systematic discrimination can be tied to economics and who is the easiest and most vulnerable target. Who will be the easiest to exploit and oppress. It doesn't mater if you are white, black, yellow, blue or purple if you are poor. Vulnerable. And desperate you will be taken advantage of and sh*t on. If you take care of some of the wealth inequality issues than the racial issues will start to take care of themselves. But it would be a very long process.

Edited September 29, 2014 by gtamann123

[Dumb guy]

Where is the outrage over non black victims of police killings? It's not a race issue. Its a police issue.

It's the way police are trained and the laws they enforce.

As someone who has had LOTS of contact with law enforcement,I know to speak camly. Move slowly.

They have a gun. They will use it. They get a easy out. Until the citizenry demand change in how police use of force is judged, people will continue to die from cop.