Rockstar hatred is absurd...

[Fuzzknuckles]

 

I've hardly seen any body hating Rockstar...

 

It takes about 5 minutes to find a bunch of threads where people claim R* have betrayed them, disappointed them, and so on. You should know, you've been in most of them.

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/738978-do-you-think-rockstar-betrayed-us/

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/737820-does-anyone-feel-disappointed-with-r/

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/736159-oh-rockstar-you-never-cease-to-disappoint/

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/658433-r-focused-way-too-much-on-pointless-sht-like-dialogue/

 

It just goes on and on and on. Bilious whining and bitching, endlessly, every day, from the same handful of joyless morons that would find a reason to complain if you gave them a million dollars.

I find it funny that the first topic you link to there - a poll - "Do you think Rockstar betrayed us?" gives a most conclusive answer. That answer is No - Rockstar did not betray us.

 

I'm sure of the 20% that voted 'Yes', some of them will be buying the "next-gen" version just as soon as it becomes available!

 

And within a few responses, there's some fairly colourful, angry posts which resort instantly to the old favourites - greed and profit. Same old same old.

[DaCosta]

 

 

I've hardly seen any body hating Rockstar...

 

It takes about 5 minutes to find a bunch of threads where people claim R* have betrayed them, disappointed them, and so on. You should know, you've been in most of them.

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/738978-do-you-think-rockstar-betrayed-us/

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/737820-does-anyone-feel-disappointed-with-r/

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/736159-oh-rockstar-you-never-cease-to-disappoint/

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/658433-r-focused-way-too-much-on-pointless-sht-like-dialogue/

 

It just goes on and on and on. Bilious whining and bitching, endlessly, every day, from the same handful of joyless morons that would find a reason to complain if you gave them a million dollars.

I find it funny that the first topic you link to there - a poll - "Do you think Rockstar betrayed us?" gives a most conclusive answer. That answer is No - Rockstar did not betray us.

 

I'm sure of the 20% that voted 'Yes', some of them will be buying the "next-gen" version just as soon as it becomes available!

 

And within a few responses, there's some fairly colourful, angry posts which resort instantly to the old favourites - greed and profit. Same old same old.

 

That very vocal 20%

[bfett21]

and worst of all is they probably didn't even buy it. but had mommy and daddy buy it for them. kids are ruining games I'll tell you what.

[lol232]

Imagine you go to a shop to buy strawberry ice cream, only to realize back at home that the container only has frozen ice in it. Strawberries need to be purchased separately for a price of $3.00. OR, you can buy strawberries + chocolate sprinkles in a bundle for just $1.99!

 

Now apply this to virtually every recently released game and maybe you will understand why the hate. Especially against Rockstar, who in the past weren't anywhere near this greedy, and especially against effin players who support these ill practices.

Only except:

-you expected your strawberry ice cream to come with chocolate and vanilla as well

-we got what we were told - strawberry ice cream

-we were never forced to buy ca-*cough* syrup cards, but we get free sprinkles monthly

 

And by the way, there was no paid DLC so far (except for SE/CE DLC). Nobody ever forces you to buy cash cards, and they've been boosting payouts for a sh*t ton of missions recently. Greed Ye-no. Stop talking about GTA V like it's an EA Game, it's not, every single DLC we got was free (except for SE/CE), and that's a sh*t ton of DLC.

Edited September 26, 2014 by lol232

[Algonquin Assassin]

i've been lurking around these forums for the past few months, and the amount of hatred towards Rockstar is shocking. Hating on Rockstar on not releasing an update/DLC soon enough or not having enough cool stuff to buy/do in it is totally unnecessary. Rockstar is not required to release updates, especially FREE DLC, and they've been doing it once a month since the beginning of the year. Call of Duty releases gun camos once in a while and they charge you $2.99! be grateful that Rockstar loves its community enough to do this for us.

 

 

 

I honestly don't know why people act like R* are being saints. A lot of developers give free content away in their games so why are R* loving and caring in this regard? Besides the latest update especially is annoying for the fact when you start a new save the hangar, marina and helipad are given to the player straight away to accommodate the new vehicles rather than being encouraged for in game purchase.

 

Anyway I've been a supporter of R* for the last 16 years and whilst I enjoy their games I'm not going to deny they've made countless questionable decisions with GTA V. None of us are paid employees so defending their decisions doesn't achieve anything.

 

At least when people rise up and voice their complaints it may make them (R*) think twice for the future rather than just being "grateful" and taking it how it is. I'm not advocating childish slander, but people shouldn't have to be grateful because others feel like R* are being warm and caring.

[krashr]

people shouldn't have to be grateful because others feel like R* are being warm and caring.

 

 

you must be new.. hi and thanks for joining gtaf, please be advised that your varied opinions and well thought out criticisms are not welcome here. you must love the game in it's entirety or gtfo. cheers

[Osho]

^ Exactly

Ready to rant about the criticisms drawn against the game by speaking things, I have never seen a majority trying to indulge themselves in meaningless hate, since there are all sorts of players, and sometimes few of them make us seem likely going overboard, but when looking at the larger picture, it is even more absurd to wipe all the discussions presented as hatred towards Rockstar.

If the defenders have an allergy reading to everything that speaks "against" GTA V, then, well the only answer would be, perhaps you should accept that the game wasn't as good as Rockstars' previous titles, otherwise start getting used to the fact that not everyone wants to be the most adorable fanboy ever who stays blind to many important issues, whether you like it or not!

[minifat]

I don't have a strong dislike for Rockstar not because they don't release updates, I have one because of what they did to GTA.

 

The realism is BAD. Go ahead and test this out: Play GTA 3/VC/SA and with the camera facing forward, move the analog towards you. Okay, now quickly jump forward, then right, then towards you, then left. Now do those things in GTA 4/5. The characters is 4/5 will move awkwardly and give you a terrible, auto-moving camera angle.

 

No Monster Truck in 5, really? Oh, a timed vehicle, I see.

 

I die when I hit the water/land my motorcycle on the ground from a skyscraper? Thanks for making stunting not fun.

 

I don't hate Rockstar, but they make some very dumb decisions for a very wealthy company (like Google). I have to praise them for bringing back some fun weapons even though it ruins their realistic BS and for making the map not as dull as 4.

Edited September 27, 2014 by minifat

[Official General]

i've been lurking around these forums for the past few months, and the amount of hatred towards Rockstar is shocking. Hating on Rockstar on not releasing an update/DLC soon enough or not having enough cool stuff to buy/do in it is totally unnecessary. Rockstar is not required to release updates, especially FREE DLC, and they've been doing it once a month since the beginning of the year. Call of Duty releases gun camos once in a while and they charge you $2.99! be grateful that Rockstar loves its community enough to do this for us.

 

Also complaining about shark cards and re-releasing GTA 5 on next-gen because "[email protected] iz s0 gr33dy lulz" is also the dumbest thing i have ever heard. Rockstar sells shark cards so they can make some money back from all the DLC they create. developing and releasing updates/DLC AND running and maintaining the servers necessary to host GTAO is not free. Rockstar is not re-releasing GTA 5 on next-gen just to make more money. They're releasing it so YOU (if you are so inclined to purchase the game again) have the opportunity to relive one of the, if not THE, greatest GTA game ever released in a much more beautiful, detailed, and immersive way. They aren't required to release it on next-gen, so i'm sure if they didn't everyone would be bitching.

 

Anyways, all i'm trying to say is that be grateful for what you have and be patient with Rockstar, because they are doing everything they can to give you guys the greatest possible gaming experience.

Oh great, another unpaid Rockstar PR spokesperson. I guess there is a recruitment drive going on right now.

[Osho]

@ minifat

I agree with you, "realism" is indeed getting on my nerves, too, and I must say, hardly anyone raise this point which makes me wonder, anyone really tried playing the old games, or just don't care about the fun aspect, and rather, those memories of "good old fun" days are simply forgotten after coming so far, and used to the modern gaming?

Though, realism isn't bad per se, but when you try to make sure, that many things which made unrealistic elements, quite appealing and more enjoyable, then it becomes a problem.

Too much realism simply ruins the "GTA" fun, and kills the interest in the long run, nowhere as cool as the 3D titles!

[The Odyssey]

Basically, I believe what R* are doing with their free DLC's is undoubtably generous, but It's nothing special in terms of how they respect their fans. They're nice, but they're not saints.

 

On the other hand, they are being too abused for unnecessary reasons.

 

 

i've been lurking around these forums for the past few months, and the amount of hatred towards Rockstar is shocking. Hating on Rockstar on not releasing an update/DLC soon enough or not having enough cool stuff to buy/do in it is totally unnecessary. Rockstar is not required to release updates, especially FREE DLC, and they've been doing it once a month since the beginning of the year. Call of Duty releases gun camos once in a while and they charge you $2.99! be grateful that Rockstar loves its community enough to do this for us.

Also complaining about shark cards and re-releasing GTA 5 on next-gen because "[email protected] iz s0 gr33dy lulz" is also the dumbest thing i have ever heard. Rockstar sells shark cards so they can make some money back from all the DLC they create. developing and releasing updates/DLC AND running and maintaining the servers necessary to host GTAO is not free. Rockstar is not re-releasing GTA 5 on next-gen just to make more money. They're releasing it so YOU (if you are so inclined to purchase the game again) have the opportunity to relive one of the, if not THE, greatest GTA game ever released in a much more beautiful, detailed, and immersive way. They aren't required to release it on next-gen, so i'm sure if they didn't everyone would be bitching.

Anyways, all i'm trying to say is that be grateful for what you have and be patient with Rockstar, because they are doing everything they can to give you guys the greatest possible gaming experience.

Oh great, another unpaid Rockstar PR spokesperson. I guess there is a recruitment drive going on right now.

 

If you hate Rockstar so much, why are you still on this forum? I understand that people like to share their opinions on the game, but for you It's evolved to the point where you're just becoming an frustrating troll who can't accept any positive feedback.

[Official General]

@ Odyssey

 

You cannot force yourself to give positive feedback on something if you don't see much positivity in the first place. In this case, that's just my situation.

 

And I never once said I hated Rockstar, I have no idea why you even said that to begin with. Don't try and pin statements to me that I did not make at all.

Edited September 27, 2014 by Official General

[The Odyssey]

Well, I kind of got the sense when you called a Rockstar defender a unpaid spokesperson.

Also, I'm not saying you should give positive feedback. I'm saying you don't have to criticise every person who gives positive feedback.

[stobe187]

The R* hating is sometimes such hardcore business that I wish South Park would do an episode on it.

[Lelouch The Zero]

The R* hating is sometimes such hardcore business that I wish South Park would do an episode on it.

Give it time and I'm sure they will. Cartman and co. might have accounts on GTAForums and they bash Rockstar and stuff, making threads and being an absolute troll. Yeah I'd love to see that episode get made. I'm being completely serious.

[Jimbatron]

i've been lurking around these forums for the past few months, and the amount of hatred towards Rockstar is shocking.

 

Yes it is.

 

And the typical response that always gets wheeled out is that you're an R* fanboy/PR spokesperson for stating this etc. I'm not saying that flaws shouldn't be aired. I've bored everyone to death already with how disappointed I was that CnC isn't in the new online. I'm also a bit miffed they delayed the PC version again. That doesn't stop me appreciating the good things that R* does. I had great fun with the monster truck races, and the new flight school challenges. I would have happily paid say £5 for the extra download, but I got it for free.

 

The point is that there's a group of individuals who seem only able to criticise, and in an excessive manner at that. If every tiny detail isn't exactly as they want it, a hissy fit ensues. These are exactly the sort of people who the "entitled generation" jibes in V are aimed at. I'm still not certain if it went over their heads altogether, or if it was so close to the bone that the recent waves of criticism are a backlash to it.

[TheGr8Cornholio]

I understand why some people is mad at Rockstar but I still enjoy their games, they never disappoint (IMO).

[VolkXue]

This is a chicken or egg subject. What came first the fanboy or the troll? In the end it doesnt matter because both fuel eachother equally lol. The only people who actually pay are the few normal people who get caught in the middle. They are almost guaranteed to be attacked by one side or the other lol I can honestly and easily say that fanboys and trolls are equally damaging to the community itself.

Like it or not R* is one of the best gaming companies out there and the GTA V has won the hears of many players.

Like it or not R* is changing as a company. GTA V and R* itself have quite a few legitimate flaws and ongoing issues which other players have every right to discuss without interruption.

[lol232]

 

i've been lurking around these forums for the past few months, and the amount of hatred towards Rockstar is shocking. Hating on Rockstar on not releasing an update/DLC soon enough or not having enough cool stuff to buy/do in it is totally unnecessary. Rockstar is not required to release updates, especially FREE DLC, and they've been doing it once a month since the beginning of the year. Call of Duty releases gun camos once in a while and they charge you $2.99! be grateful that Rockstar loves its community enough to do this for us.

I honestly don't know why people act like R* are being saints. A lot of developers give free content away in their games so why are R* loving and caring in this regard? Besides the latest update especially is annoying for the fact when you start a new save the hangar, marina and helipad are given to the player straight away to accommodate the new vehicles rather than being encouraged for in game purchase.

 

I agree with the helipad/hangar/marina part, but not many companies actually release DLC's for free, I've haven't seen Activision do that (except for the PC versions of CoD 4 and WaW, but that was years ago), EA games (I can't think of any, look at so f*cking many expansion packs they've released for Sims 3, it takes a crap ton of time to pirate them all let alone earn enough money to buy them), and besides, there may have been one or two DLC that other game companies/developers released for free, but Rockstar released 6 free DLC's, and people complain about them like it made some money out their pocket fly out.

 

The main problem here, people are complaining about cash cards as if they are DLC's, MANDATORY DLCS, they're not.

Edited September 27, 2014 by lol232

[Jimbatron]

The main problem here, people are complaining about cash cards as if they are DLC's, MANDATORY DLCS, they're not.

 

I thought they were a bad idea, but they don't bother me. Why? I've been able to buy everything I want to from job earnings in game. I'm borderline baffled that anyone has ever bought one. If purchasing them had been necessary to stand a chance in the game, then I might have been a bit annoyed. But they're not.

 

SOL is right though about the SP impact of new vehicles. At the least, they should have made them come free with the garage/marina/helipad/hangar when you bought the property. Hopefully that's the way they will set it up for the new gen / PC versions, or just make you buy the vehicles too. It doesn't work too well the our characters aren't supposed to be flush with cash at the start, but have a private jet and a super car.

Edited September 27, 2014 by Jimbatron

[Osho]

The main problem here, people are complaining about cash cards as if they are DLC's,

MANDATORY DLCS, they're not.

I don't think people are so gullible to think that cash cards are MANDATORY DLC's! ..lol

Seriously, no one thinks like that, other than the ones who use cash cards as a tool to confuse, otherwise, or just running an awareness campaign about the importance of playing ONLINE.

If it's the latter, then, no thanks, I'm sticking with the single-player only!

[CallumL]

Agreed, a lot of people rage towards Rockstar due to "late" DLC, however they don't announce it, they get their information from Youtubers, which is obviously only in speculation. Another thing they should be grateful for is the DLC is free, and that in its self is enough.

[lol232]

 

The main problem here, people are complaining about cash cards as if they are DLC's,

MANDATORY DLCS, they're not.

I don't think people are so gullible to think that cash cards are MANDATORY DLC's! ..lol

Seriously, no one thinks like that, other than the ones who use cash cards as a tool to confuse, otherwise, or just running an awareness campaign about the importance of playing ONLINE.

If it's the latter, then, no thanks, I'm sticking with the single-player only!

 

Well, people talk about them as if they're mandatory.

[DonMichaelCorleone]

I hate rockstar because they are greedy assholes.the people who run rockstar are crazy.they torture their employees.i also hate them for delaying the games and not releasing dlc in time as promised.f*ck you rockstar.otherwise i love them.

Edited September 27, 2014 by DonMichaelCorleone

[HaythamKenway]

The reason why I'm harsher on R* is because I expect better of them. Watching them slipping like they do for the last three years is painful, since I know they did better and are able to do better. For example, when Ubisoft pulls out some of their horrible anti-consumer stunts, it pis*es me off far less than when R* decides to push out bad and pointless, but free DLCs instead of expansions like TLaD and TBoGT. It's because it's not surprising from Ubi to try screw with the consumers. But it is in R*'s case.

 

Is it fair? No. But the bar is simply higher, so R* have more to live up to. It's the same reason why people love to gang up on Valve and Gabe Newell from time to time. It's not because they hate them, exactly the opposite.

[Tilemaxx]

 

I find it funny that the first topic you link to there - a poll - "Do you think Rockstar betrayed us?" gives a most conclusive answer. That answer is No - Rockstar did not betray us.

 

I'm sure of the 20% that voted 'Yes', some of them will be buying the "next-gen" version just as soon as it becomes available!

 

Honestly, who cares?

 

The number of haters in this forum is so small, that it fits in the range of statistical error when scaled up to the actual number of people that bought the game. Even a hypothetical very finest game of all time will get a volume of haters after it's release, and that applies to everything, not only in videogames.

[Im2akillerfish]

Why don't people don't complain to Naughty dog like this. U3 MP got more patches than SP, the game turned to microtransaction hell (85% of items need real money to unlock them) and then they released a remastered edition of an older game.

 

There are some things R* does absolutely wrong. But not everything is their fault.

 

IMO fans in 2014 suck compared to fans 10 years ago. If a fan saw an activity they didn't like back in 2004, they just moved on and said: "I just do something else, the next activity awaits." Nowadays, If they see an activity they don't care about, they complain about why did they add this instead of *random activity here*. Nowadays there is lot of complaints how Yoga isn't criminal enough, and took everything good from the game. Does that mean that Dancing took away Drugs back in SA?

 

People say that console limitations dont exist. 8 year old hardware is nowhere as powerful as todays hardware. It's like comparing a 2005 Nokia and 2014 samsung. And if somebody says that Just cause 2 had bigger map so V should have too, I'll scream. I really don't think JC2 had to keep track of Traffic and a big amount of traffic at the same time.

 

Some people also lack the basic of patience. They want the game as soon as possible, and complain if it takes long to make the game. If they happen to get it early, they complain how the devs didn't playtest it properly.

Then we have those who want the game to be exactly like the previous game. When Assassin's creed did it, people whined about how there wasn't enough changes. It's the classic, "I want you to move forward and the guy next to me wants you to stay still. Who you are going to listen?"

 

And if Rockstar released SA remake with more music, traffic and pedestrians, better graphics and a couple of other additions like a car or two, NOBODY WOULD COMPLAIN FROM SOME REASON!!!

 

And now, I going away from Gtaforums for around 2 weeks. I need a break from all this hate, negativity and complaining. So don't bother replying, I won't be here to read it.

[woggleman]

In an industry like gaming you adapt or die. I will always prefer SP to online though I do enjoy online with the right people but it's just stupid from a business perspective to ignore such a lucrative market.

 

I wish we got a bunch of DLCs like TLAD and TBOGT because they were great and if more people bought EFLC we would be getting it. From a commercial perspective it was a complete failure. They are not going to release another DLC that nobody buys because everybody hates the Vanilla game. The backlash against IV is a big reason why they failed and right now we are seeing a similar backlash against V and R isn't letting that happen again.

 

I wish they would do some things differently but I blame the fans more than I blame them. Hate the game and not the player adapting so he can stay successful in it.

[KingKock]

Imagine you go to a shop to buy strawberry ice cream, only to realize back at home that the container only has frozen ice in it. Strawberries need to be purchased separately for a price of $3.00. OR, you can buy strawberries + chocolate sprinkles in a bundle for just $1.99!

 

Now apply this to virtually every recently released game and maybe you will understand why the hate. Especially against Rockstar, who in the past weren't anywhere near this greedy, and especially against effin players who support these ill practices.

There has yet to be any payed DLC's so I can't really see why this applies to Rockstar...

[ClanAllStars]

I'm a long time player of GTA and new to the forum, but I can't agree more. All of Rockstar's games have been spot on and I've never had a problem with any of them. Keep doing what your doing R*!