Rockstar hatred is absurd...

[iam2fresh]

 

im honestly surprised OG or osho hasn't showed up and give us a long ass reason why 5 was disappointing to them

 

Why not? If it's disappointing for them and the next guy, what's the matter? Is that too hard for you or the next guy to fathom?

 

If they don't like it, they don't like it. It should be nobody's concern but their own. They can share their opinion...

 

I can understand this for osho. but OG is incredibly rude for someone that wants to share his opinion its like he wants to start fights here.

[im_stoned]

For what it's worth, I don't hate them. Just disappointed by their newest game and marketing strategies. They're just following suit in the modern gaming industry, which as a whole, is terrible right now.

Yep and that's why I urge everyone to give saints row 4 a go.

 

Don't give me that rock star loyalty they weren't loyal to you when they made that trash known as GTA v

 

Now I know saints row is rough around the edges but its a video game GTA v is nothing more than an interactive movie

 

I'm being serious right now. I had no faith in saints row 4 either but I can honestly say I'm really enjoying it. If your open minded give it a try you might like it. That's all I'm saying

Edited September 26, 2014 by im_stoned

[Lethal Vaccine]

 

 

im honestly surprised OG or osho hasn't showed up and give us a long ass reason why 5 was disappointing to them

 

Why not? If it's disappointing for them and the next guy, what's the matter? Is that too hard for you or the next guy to fathom?

 

If they don't like it, they don't like it. It should be nobody's concern but their own. They can share their opinion...

 

I can understand this for osho. but OG is incredibly rude for someone that wants to share his opinion its like he wants to start fights here.

 

 

Fair enough, lol

[S1N0D3UTSCHT3K]

i never understand why people think Rockstar lied so much about Heists or falsely advertised Heists....

 

 

where exactly was all the Online Heist promises that they broke?

 

 

Rockstar barely advertised Online Heists... official website NEVER had any real info about Online Heists other than for a while it say 'Online Heists' were a feature and that's it... no scale at all..

 

and the Online Gameplay trailer is 3 minutes long and mentions Online Heists for 5 seconds....

 

 

 

I think people seem to forget it was idiots like IGN and Kotaku doing adverticles and fanboy hype parades that blew up people's expections for heists but Rockstar never confirmed ANY details other that giving it a title...

 

 

heck, the ONLY time Rockstar even mentioned Heists in a trailer before release was for 5 seconds and they compared Heists to Cashier Hold-ups....

 

OK so Heists are on par with Cashier Holdups LOL

 

 

that's why Heists were delayed

 

 

online Heists were going to be a smaller feature and that was what R* advertised, but then they saw how people got far bigger expectations, so R* had to completely change their plans and make a totally new Heist system

 

that's why it's been delayed so much

 

 

 

 

oh, and it'll be free

 

unlike COD or Sleeping Dogs where every extra gun or costume is $2.... Rockstar has given us probably $75 in free content and Heists will be free too

Edited September 26, 2014 by S1N0D3UTSCHT3K

[fish61324]

i've been lurking around these forums for the past few months, and the amount of hatred towards Rockstar is shocking. Hating on Rockstar on not releasing an update/DLC soon enough or not having enough cool stuff to buy/do in it is totally unnecessary. Rockstar is not required to release updates, especially FREE DLC, and they've been doing it once a month since the beginning of the year. Call of Duty releases gun camos once in a while and they charge you $2.99! be grateful that Rockstar loves its community enough to do this for us.

 

Also complaining about shark cards and re-releasing GTA 5 on next-gen because "[email protected] iz s0 gr33dy lulz" is also the dumbest thing i have ever heard. Rockstar sells shark cards so they can make some money back from all the DLC they create. developing and releasing updates/DLC AND running and maintaining the servers necessary to host GTAO is not free. Rockstar is not re-releasing GTA 5 on next-gen just to make more money. They're releasing it so YOU (if you are so inclined to purchase the game again) have the opportunity to relive one of the, if not THE, greatest GTA game ever released in a much more beautiful, detailed, and immersive way. They aren't required to release it on next-gen, so i'm sure if they didn't everyone would be bitching.

 

Anyways, all i'm trying to say is that be grateful for what you have and be patient with Rockstar, because they are doing everything they can to give you guys the greatest possible gaming experience.

You need to pay attention kid..... that's not what is going on. The hate for R* is fully justifiable.

[Geralt of Rivia]

 

For what it's worth, I don't hate them. Just disappointed by their newest game and marketing strategies. They're just following suit in the modern gaming industry, which as a whole, is terrible right now.

they weren't loyal to you when they made that trash known as GTA vLolwat.

 

R* addressed a lot of complaints from IV with V. At least the major ones.

 

That makes no sense.

Edited September 26, 2014 by TheMasterfocker

[Choco Taco]

i never understand why people think Rockstar lied so much about Heists or falsely advertised Heists....

 

 

where exactly was all the Online Heist promises that they broke?

 

 

http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/52217/Grand-Theft-Auto-Online-Spring-Updates

 

"Heists: Coming this spring to Grand Theft Auto Online"

[S1N0D3UTSCHT3K]

yeah... but what else?

 

delaying a post-release patch that has a feature with zero description is a lot different than heavily advertising the exact details of a feature before release

 

for example, the former would legally have grounds as false advertising

 

that, however, does not.

 

and don't misunderstand... i probably play and care about GTA V as much as anyone so there are probably very very few gamers that will benefit and use heists as much as me

 

but there's a difference between being excited for a feature and hating someone because you feel entitled to something they lied to you about lol and the sense of entitlement some ppl feel about heists is so odd and i don't understand where it comes from

Edited September 26, 2014 by S1N0D3UTSCHT3K

[CrazyTommy74]

I agree with the OP. GTAV is until now the best supported game ever. For me, it's the best game ever, too. I have a PS4 here with four games (Infamous, Watch Dogs, TLOU and Tomb Raider), but i play GTAV on a PS3/XBOX360. All other games seems boring to me.

 

Until now, i started my 7th Online Character (Level 35 to 125). And think of the graphics on old gen. looks even better, then Watch Dogs on PS4. Ok, there are no heists, but this seems to me the only real things, that deserves critics.

 

The shark cards a heavily overpriced in my opinion, but if you really want to play the game, they are not needed. The cash comes during the missions automatically (at least for me).

 

 

[OneManCrimeWave]

The shark cards a heavily overpriced in my opinion, but if you really want to play the game, they are not needed. The cash comes during the missions automatically (at least for me).

I agree and at the same time, this is what I don't understand with some people. If you bought one of those shark cards, then you shouldn't be blaming anyone but yourself for buying it. Yet, if you didn't buy one, why are you b*tching about them? R* never forced those things on us, it surely won't be affecting their future games and money is pretty easy to get in GTA Online without them.

[GN 92]

The problem is that most of the fanbase are 14 yr old idiots who thinks rockstar owns them something.

[Fuzzknuckles]

 

The shark cards a heavily overpriced in my opinion, but if you really want to play the game, they are not needed. The cash comes during the missions automatically (at least for me).

I agree and at the same time, this is what I don't understand with some people. If you bought one of those shark cards, then you shouldn't be blaming anyone but yourself for buying it. Yet, if you didn't buy one, why are you b*tching about them? R* never forced those things on us, it surely won't be affecting their future games and money is pretty easy to get in GTA Online without them.

 

They are indeed overpriced. But as we all know, optional. The way people around here talk about them, you'd think they were being forced at gun point to buy 10 a day. Which, clearly, isn't the cases.

 

You'll also note that a lot of the people bitching about cash cards are also in the 'I refuse to play Online' camp, so have, really, not one f*cking reason to complain about them.

 

Let's be clear about cash cards:

 

1. They're optional.

2. They're only necessary if you want to skip earning money in missions, which in turn prevents you from leveling up, so really, they're pointless. You should just play missions and level up, and earn cash legitimately.

3. FFS grow up.

 

As you say, OMCW, they aren't forcing them on us. They are something that we play an active role in choosing to buy, there's no passive decision of 'oh, I should get one because they exist and therefore I must have one'. So, why does anyone complain about something that you consciously have to decide to buy yourself?

 

OMG THOUGH, THEY MUST JUST WANT ALL OUR CASH.

 

Yes, of course they do, but I'm sure that, if there was a way to release games for free, and pay staff creating those games with f*cking thin air and acorns, I'm sure they would give it a try. Because they NEED their audience, as much as we want them to make games for us.

 

They have not said f*ck you to anyone by releasing the game on multiplatforms. Only an actual moron would believe that. They have not said f*ck you by creating two fully featured games and giving one away for free. They have not said f*ck you by having a team that handles SP and a team that handles MP and focusing on both equally. Because, believe me, I can see from my experience in games that there has been a HUGE amount of effort put into both, and both received an equal amount of attention as far as I can tell.

 

The haters on here are so childish, immature and dunder-headed that it's a wonder how they get through the day without being struck on the head by a cartoon anvil.

[Osho]

I've hardly seen any body hating Rockstar.

But, if at all, they are most likely expressing their disappointments, towards the single player game, and every other "bad" decision related to the overall experience!

OP seems to be getting influenced by some wrong people around here, who are actually spreading this false claims.

[LawasDS]

 

 

Bro, don't even bother to explain this, I have explained this already like 10 times, and many others.

 

Still in a couple of days there will be someone again saying:

 

DUDE THEIR ARE FREE DLC SHUT UP ROCKSTAR ARE A VERY NICE COMPANY!!!!!!!

 

 

And again and again for eternity.

 

 

 

Except that the DLC is completely free. I don't understand how this issue keeps coming up. Now, I do agree that any and all of us have a right to complain if we disagree with the quality of said DLC, it's frequency, or content. But whether a player likes it or not, it is free. I paid $150 for the game over a year ago because I got the collector's edition, and since that day, I haven't spent another penny. Of course, everyone has the option to buy cash cards if they want, but is not a requirement. I certainly haven't. I have no need for them, but I have no problem with anyone that does either. It's their game to play however they choose. The production of the DLC does however cost Rockstar money. Artists, programmers, and managers all have to be paid. If the game were made by some other companies, we would have probably been paying for each of these DLC packs, but we haven't. They could have charged for each individual car, gun, and added mission since launch. But they haven't. This is why I feel like the complaints are unjustified.

 

Yes, I feel like some complaints are completely fair, and I have several of my own. I am frustrated about the heists as much as everyone else. I wish R* wasn't always so tight lipped about their plans. I agree with many that as much as the mountains are breathtaking and fun to explore, I would have gladly traded one or two for another small town. But we could nitpick forever on things like that. Those complaints are perfectly fair though. What isn't, is the constant complaining about cash cards, how Online "ruined" single player, why we aren't getting such and such a car, and how greedy Rockstar is. Anyway, I'm getting carried away, so I'll stop. lol I'm not angry with anyone at all, and I love the debates on this forum. The only thing I hate is the repeated and rehashed complaints that resurface every two days.

 

 

The content download is free, but to unlock it into your game, you will have to spend a ridiculous amount of hours farming money or BUY SHARK CARDS. But hey the download is free right? Everyone is wrong and shouldn't blame Rockstar.

Edited September 26, 2014 by Luismy_MMD

[LawasDS]

 

 

The shark cards a heavily overpriced in my opinion, but if you really want to play the game, they are not needed. The cash comes during the missions automatically (at least for me).

I agree and at the same time, this is what I don't understand with some people. If you bought one of those shark cards, then you shouldn't be blaming anyone but yourself for buying it. Yet, if you didn't buy one, why are you b*tching about them? R* never forced those things on us, it surely won't be affecting their future games and money is pretty easy to get in GTA Online without them.

 

They are indeed overpriced. But as we all know, optional. The way people around here talk about them, you'd think they were being forced at gun point to buy 10 a day. Which, clearly, isn't the cases.

 

You'll also note that a lot of the people bitching about cash cards are also in the 'I refuse to play Online' camp, so have, really, not one f*cking reason to complain about them.

 

Let's be clear about cash cards:

 

1. They're optional.

2. They're only necessary if you want to skip earning money in missions, which in turn prevents you from leveling up, so really, they're pointless. You should just play missions and level up, and earn cash legitimately.

3. FFS grow up.

 

As you say, OMCW, they aren't forcing them on us. They are something that we play an active role in choosing to buy, there's no passive decision of 'oh, I should get one because they exist and therefore I must have one'. So, why does anyone complain about something that you consciously have to decide to buy yourself?

 

OMG THOUGH, THEY MUST JUST WANT ALL OUR CASH.

 

Yes, of course they do, but I'm sure that, if there was a way to release games for free, and pay staff creating those games with f*cking thin air and acorns, I'm sure they would give it a try. Because they NEED their audience, as much as we want them to make games for us.

 

They have not said f*ck you to anyone by releasing the game on multiplatforms. Only an actual moron would believe that. They have not said f*ck you by creating two fully featured games and giving one away for free. They have not said f*ck you by having a team that handles SP and a team that handles MP and focusing on both equally. Because, believe me, I can see from my experience in games that there has been a HUGE amount of effort put into both, and both received an equal amount of attention as far as I can tell.

 

The haters on here are so childish, immature and dunder-headed that it's a wonder how they get through the day without being struck on the head by a cartoon anvil.

 

 

Well, if you play the missions as you say you may know that the payouts are completely sh*t and that you have to use weapons which their ammo is not expensive, because if you go C4 mode, you will be in fact losing money because C4 is overprized and the payout for completing the mission is minimal and insufficient.

 

And no, single player and online haven't been treated the same. Rockstar forgot about Single Player back in October 2013.

The problem is that most of the fanbase are 14 yr old idiots who thinks rockstar owns them something.

 

Those 14 year old idiots are usually rat kids that only do what their Youtube idols tell them to do and they are typicially the ones that are ruining Gta by supporting GTA Online and Cash Cards in a hardcore way.

 

Those same kids helped f*cking up the COD franchise, as well as Battlefield and many other franchises that used to be good, but then jumped into the 99% online - DLC's fashion.

[Fuzzknuckles]

I've hardly seen any body hating Rockstar.

But, if at all, they are most likely expressing their disappointments, towards the single player game, and every other "bad" decision related to the overall experience!

OP seems to be getting influenced by some wrong people around here, who are actually spreading this false claims.

It takes about 5 minutes to find a bunch of threads where people claim R* have betrayed them, disappointed them, and so on. You should know, you've been in most of them.

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/738978-do-you-think-rockstar-betrayed-us/

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/737820-does-anyone-feel-disappointed-with-r/

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/736159-oh-rockstar-you-never-cease-to-disappoint/

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/658433-r-focused-way-too-much-on-pointless-sht-like-dialogue/

 

It just goes on and on and on. Bilious whining and bitching, endlessly, every day, from the same handful of joyless morons that would find a reason to complain if you gave them a million dollars.

 

It starts with general disappointment, then rapidly turns into 'Cockstar hate their fans' and 'Cockstar juts want our money', angry, belligerent, childish whinging and baseless accusations leveled at R* JUST FOR DOING THEIR JOBS.

 

OP was absolutely spot on, and there's been a couple of people in this thread that have completely validated his point. They are so unaware of how aggressive and impotent they are, and that is priceless.

 

 

 

The content download is free, but to unlock it into your game, you will have to spend a ridiculous amount of hours farming money or BUY SHARK CARDS. But hey the download is free right? Everyone is wrong and shouldn't blame Rockstar.

 

"I just spent $50 on this game and now you expect me to actually play it? What the f*ck man??"

 

Logic. We need some.

Edited September 26, 2014 by Fuzzknuckles

[autotheftgrand]

Where's that crying baby meme?!

 

For real, people are just bitter because they can't afford new consoles, fact. Last gen is over, finished, move with the future or get left behind, simple really..

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

Boy this forum just loves to discuss the same drivel over and over, both the no-life defenders and the petty as f*ck haters. I'm going to take a break from this pile of rubbish section.

[THE_TREVALEV]

i never understand why people think Rockstar lied so much about Heists or falsely advertised Heists....

 

 

where exactly was all the Online Heist promises that they broke?

 

 

Rockstar barely advertised Online Heists...

derrr wat.

It was supposed to be a giant if not main feature of GTAO. It's been over a year. They stopped mentioning it when their promises became hallow. Hell, to make up for it, they gave original SP DLC to you, and we got nothing. Don't act as if R* did no wrong and had words taken out of their mouth. Heists were originally supposed to be in the game from day one. A year later, it's the same damn game but with lower payouts and a few new vehicles and clothing options.

 

Where's that crying baby meme?!

 

For real, people are just bitter because they can't afford new consoles, fact. Last gen is over, finished, move with the future or get left behind, simple really..

Do I really need to spend 460 bucks to finally download the sh*t I've been waiting on for over a year? Come on. Not everyone takes video games as seriously as you. Edited September 26, 2014 by THE_TREVALEV

[Fuzzknuckles]

Do I really need to spend 460 bucks to finally download the sh*t I've been waiting on for over a year? Come on. Not everyone takes video games as seriously as you.

 

Yes you do. Move on or get over it.

 

You seem to be taking it pretty seriously, I must say.

[simonp92]

 

 

Rockstar sells shark cards so they can make some money back from all the DLC they create.

 

I really think it's other way around. R* gives Online the free DLC to keep people playing so they keep buying shark cards. I don't think R* deserves all the hate their getting, but I certainly don't think anyone should be defending them, no matter how good their games are. Make them earn your money, otherwise it will get allot worse in the future.

[Geralt of Rivia]

 

 

 

 

Rockstar sells shark cards so they can make some money back from all the DLC they create.

I really think it's other way around. R* gives Online the free DLC to keep people playing so they keep buying shark cards. I don't think R* deserves all the hate their getting, but I certainly don't think anyone should be defending them, no matter how good their games are. Make them earn your money, otherwise it will get allot worse in the future.

You both have it right.

 

R* gives out free DLC so people will buy Shark Cards, and they sell Shark Cards so they can continually make money after release to keep making DLC.

[King Vercetti]

"I just spent $50 on this game and now you expect me to actually play it? What the f*ck man??"

 

Logic. We need some.

 

This guy gets it.

Edited September 26, 2014 by King Vercetti

[TheDeathRises]

 

 

 

Rockstar is not re-releasing GTA 5 on next-gen just to make more money.

 

Uh, yes they are. They're not doing anything just to be nice.

 

Sure, whatever you say. If you aren't upto date with the google cache leak, you'll find out soon enough the improvements their adding to the game, especially first person mode in a vehicle and on foot. And that's just the beginning. If you think they're releasing the same game without adding ANYTHING at all, then you must be one thick anti-Rockstar tool.

 

I think you missed the point - sure, they aren't just increasing the resolution and repackaging the game, but at the same time they aren't giving it away either. They aren't even offering any sort of trade in on old copies. I'm not complaining, but don't act like R* are doing us all a favor by releasing this, they stand to make a hell of a lot of money from it.

 

Trade-in options? I'll give you a trade-in option: sell your LG copy and you just got 30-40 bucks and only need to spend 30-20 bucks on NG versions! Why would they have to hand you everything, at every step you make? Can't you just figure out stuff like this yourself?

[Cutter De Blanc]

I think the Gamestop guy said my copy of GTA V was worth 23 bucks a couple months ago. I paid 80 for it.

[Breitsmeister]

I agree with the op because they're saving the best version for last.

Like every GTA on PC will last many years while the console versions will only last a couple of months, then it will be dead.

GTA on PC is a game that never ends, i'm still playing GTA SA because of the unlimited mods. Same for GTA IV.

 

When GTA V will be released for PC i will be a happy man, until then we have to wait..

[LordZekrom]

Good point. But we all know that these DLCs are a reason to buy shark cards, which is money for Rockstar.

 

These DLCs can go under the guise of being free, and while technically they are, it sure takes alot of time to get the money to pay for these overly expensive things.

 

It's marketing genius.

 

 

Basically to get all this expensive stuff, you'll want to pay through money from your wallet or pay through time in your life, either way you're paying something. Rockstar are some clever bastards.

Edited September 26, 2014 by LordZekrom

[Smith John]

This thread has provided me with a slight inclination to start visiting this section of the forums again. Pretty refreshing to see the usual collective of whiners kept at bay; perhaps we're finally at the point where the latest GTA's dedicated forum returns to some sort of positive discourse (at least until the PS4/Xbone release when the inevitable resurges once again).

 

And when will Fuzzknuckles get his medal? The guy f*cking deserves it for his contribution to the V forum, and more so for the amount of times he completely annihilates the miserably, negative-fuelled brats with his refutes.

[S1N0D3UTSCHT3K]

derrr wat.

It was supposed to be a giant if not main feature of GTAO. It's been over a year. They stopped mentioning it when their promises became hallow. Hell, to make up for it, they gave original SP DLC to you, and we got nothing. Don't act as if R* did no wrong and had words taken out of their mouth. Heists were originally supposed to be in the game from day one. A year later, it's the same damn game but with lower payouts and a few new vehicles and clothing options.

 

Based on what, can you show me the google archives or official marketing that shows this?

 

i'm genuinely curious because i've looked myself and i can't find anything that comes from Rockstar... it's only non-R* previews by IGN, Kotaku, GameSpot, etc

[DaCosta]

I've hardly seen any body hating Rockstar...

 

It takes about 5 minutes to find a bunch of threads where people claim R* have betrayed them, disappointed them, and so on. You should know, you've been in most of them.

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/738978-do-you-think-rockstar-betrayed-us/

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/737820-does-anyone-feel-disappointed-with-r/

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/736159-oh-rockstar-you-never-cease-to-disappoint/

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/658433-r-focused-way-too-much-on-pointless-sht-like-dialogue/

 

It just goes on and on and on. Bilious whining and bitching, endlessly, every day, from the same handful of joyless morons that would find a reason to complain if you gave them a million dollars.

I find it funny that the first topic you link to there - a poll - "Do you think Rockstar betrayed us?" gives a most conclusive answer. That answer is No - Rockstar did not betray us.

 

I'm sure of the 20% that voted 'Yes', some of them will be buying the "next-gen" version just as soon as it becomes available!