Rockstar hatred is absurd...

[Payne Killer]

For what it's worth, I don't hate them. Just disappointed by their newest game and marketing strategies. They're just following suit in the modern gaming industry, which as a whole, is terrible right now.

I second this.

[fefenc]

 

For what it's worth, I don't hate them. Just disappointed by their newest game and marketing strategies. They're just following suit in the modern gaming industry, which as a whole, is terrible right now.

I second this.

 

I third this.

[SkylineGTRFreak]

Imagine you go to a shop to buy strawberry ice cream, only to realize back at home that the container only has frozen ice in it. Strawberries need to be purchased separately for a price of $3.00. OR, you can buy strawberries + chocolate sprinkles in a bundle for just $1.99!

 

Now apply this to virtually every recently released game and maybe you will understand why the hate. Especially against Rockstar, who in the past weren't anywhere near this greedy, and especially against effin players who support these ill practices.

Your comment is just plain stupid. I have bought GTA V. What did I get? GTA V, a nice single player experience with a beautiful map and a multiplayer with dozens of races and different kind of versus matches.

 

What the f*ck is complete for you? GTA V has packed more stuff into it than most other games today. Yes, some things are disappointing, but when you see the whole product.... Goddamit, it's well worth the 60$. Just look up your playtime, divide it by 60$ and calculate how much you have paid for an hour of enjoyment. You can thank me later.

[Lelouch The Zero]

The thing is; and let me just say this so all the assholes will stop calling me out.; is that Rockstar Games is not a bad company, by all means. They make very good games, and I will buy every one of them that they make. GTA V is a very good game, so is GTA IV (Which is my favorite GTA by far). People are complaining because Rockstar is pulling a big dick move by making a vehicle (and other vehicles) which people requested extremely for last gen (The Dukes) and putting it in the NG version as a bait to lure in players from LG to buy the game again. On top of that, they're putting new radio content in the game that should have been in the LG versions from the start. Remember when there was no such thing as DLC? And whenever the game was released, that is what you got, with bugs and all. Oh how I wish times were still like those. BUT, R* really needs to stop pulling a bait and switch by luring in new players and old to NG, because let me tell you something, these free DLC's they've been releasing are GREAT, Now why can't they release the new vehicles for free on LG consoles? Is that so hard for them to do? They should just bundle it up with all the new radio content, put it with the new story DLC that's coming, and release it for LG so that everyone will be happy. I'm thinking that even though it might not be free, I'd say the DLC should go for like $10.00 tops.

[Gay Tony]

Alot of you from both sides of the shark card argument (kesh kurd conspirators, R* apologists alike) don't seem to realize shark cards aren't the only way they make money in order to run servers and/or come out with updates.

 

GTA V disk contains single player and Online.

 

A sh!t ton purchase GTA V solely for Online aspect, and a sh!t ton purchase for single player. Then there's everyone else who falls somewhere in the middle buying for both aspects.

 

R* makes money by selling more copies.

 

The sole purpose for Online isn't for those kesh kurds like some of you are saying.

 

Those Shark Cards are the icing on the cake.

Edited September 25, 2014 by mr toasterbutt

[zynlen101]

I find both the Rockstar hate circlejerkers as well as apologists annoying as hell.

 

At least when they're at their extremes.

[OneManCrimeWave]

 

Seriously OP, I agree with everything you've stated. The sad thing is that you'd expect to hear the sh*tty and childlike insults like "Cockstar" or "R* are the new EA" from the SR or Watchdog fanboys. But, no, it's from R*'s own fanbase.

Edited September 25, 2014 by OneManCrimeWave

[FranklinDeRoosevelt]

I'd like to point out that I agree with people that hate the way DLC's and updates work, because you pay for the game and on top of that you might need to buy DLC's that could have been in the game anway which makes you feel like a brainwashed f*cker. But you can't blame Rockstar for following the trend because it is a BUSINESS that wants to make money, they've simply realised how much they can make through this method and do it for business purposes, not moral purposes. It's definitely a sad thing for the gaming industry which I fully comprehend, but don't forget companies have started this a long time ago now.

[Choco Taco]

Rockstar is not re-releasing GTA 5 on next-gen just to make more money.

 

Uh, yes they are. They're not doing anything just to be nice.

[MonsterCockDude]

The thing is; and let me just say this so all the assholes will stop calling me out.; is that Rockstar Games is not a bad company, by all means. They make very good games, and I will buy every one of them that they make. GTA V is a very good game, so is GTA IV (Which is my favorite GTA by far). People are complaining because Rockstar is pulling a big dick move by making a vehicle (and other vehicles) which people requested extremely for last gen (The Dukes) and putting it in the NG version as a bait to lure in players from LG to buy the game again. On top of that, they're putting new radio content in the game that should have been in the LG versions from the start. Remember when there was no such thing as DLC? And whenever the game was released, that is what you got, with bugs and all. Oh how I wish times were still like those. BUT, R* really needs to stop pulling a bait and switch by luring in new players and old to NG, because let me tell you something, these free DLC's they've been releasing are GREAT, Now why can't they release the new vehicles for free on LG consoles? Is that so hard for them to do? They should just bundle it up with all the new radio content, put it with the new story DLC that's coming, and release it for LG so that everyone will be happy. I'm thinking that even though it might not be free, I'd say the DLC should go for like $10.00 tops.

If R* released a DLC that included the Dukes and Dodo and new radio songs for $10 people would complain and say R* is ripping them off and they should have been with the game when they first came out.

 

The only way that they could win in your scenario ( in a public relations setting ) would be to release that DLC for free.

 

But also keep in mind that a lot of PS3 and 360 consoles hard drives might not be able to fit the new DLC anyway, keep in mind that they could have not updated the radio stations at all in the PS4 version and this complaint wouldn't even be brought up. Also don't act like R* hasn't done this before, for GTA IV the DLC's and re releases featured more music and some new radio stations. Why didn't people complain that they had to buy the DLC for that game to hear certain songs or DJs? Why didn't they complain that people had to buy the disc version of Episodes of Liberty City to get a certain radio station?

[ribon]

 

Imagine you go to a shop to buy strawberry ice cream, only to realize back at home that the container only has frozen ice in it. Strawberries need to be purchased separately for a price of $3.00. OR, you can buy strawberries + chocolate sprinkles in a bundle for just $1.99!

 

Now apply this to virtually every recently released game and maybe you will understand why the hate. Especially against Rockstar, who in the past weren't anywhere near this greedy, and especially against effin players who support these ill practices.

Your comment is just plain stupid. I have bought GTA V. What did I get? GTA V, a nice single player experience with a beautiful map and a multiplayer with dozens of races and different kind of versus matches.

 

What the f*ck is complete for you? GTA V has packed more stuff into it than most other games today. Yes, some things are disappointing, but when you see the whole product.... Goddamit, it's well worth the 60$. Just look up your playtime, divide it by 60$ and calculate how much you have paid for an hour of enjoyment. You can thank me later.

 

 

I'm not even gonna reply to this since everything's been said already anyway. When the next GTA game comes in installments with ~10 hours of gameplay, the rest being in purchaseable DLCs (Mass Effectish), remind yourself of this topic and how it all started. I rest my case.

[King Vercetti]

Long story short, a lot of people would be miserable no matter what rockstar does these days. Would I be upset if I was anxious for a specific car and I didn't get it? Maybe, but I would probably just go drive one of the OVER 200 cars already in the game instead. Because I never bought GTA V for just ONE CAR.

[FranklinDeRoosevelt]

 

Rockstar is not re-releasing GTA 5 on next-gen just to make more money.

 

Uh, yes they are. They're not doing anything just to be nice.

 

Sure, whatever you say. If you aren't upto date with the google cache leak, you'll find out soon enough the improvements their adding to the game, especially first person mode in a vehicle and on foot. And that's just the beginning. If you think they're releasing the same game without adding ANYTHING at all, then you must be one thick anti-Rockstar tool.

[MonsterCockDude]

 

 

Imagine you go to a shop to buy strawberry ice cream, only to realize back at home that the container only has frozen ice in it. Strawberries need to be purchased separately for a price of $3.00. OR, you can buy strawberries + chocolate sprinkles in a bundle for just $1.99!

 

Now apply this to virtually every recently released game and maybe you will understand why the hate. Especially against Rockstar, who in the past weren't anywhere near this greedy, and especially against effin players who support these ill practices.

Your comment is just plain stupid. I have bought GTA V. What did I get? GTA V, a nice single player experience with a beautiful map and a multiplayer with dozens of races and different kind of versus matches.

 

What the f*ck is complete for you? GTA V has packed more stuff into it than most other games today. Yes, some things are disappointing, but when you see the whole product.... Goddamit, it's well worth the 60$. Just look up your playtime, divide it by 60$ and calculate how much you have paid for an hour of enjoyment. You can thank me later.

 

 

I'm not even gonna reply to this since everything's been said already anyway. When the next GTA game comes in installments with ~10 hours of gameplay, the rest being in purchaseable DLCs (Mass Effectish), remind yourself of this topic and how it all started. I rest my case.

 

This GTA has more gameplay then any other GTA game though.

 

 

Rockstar is not re-releasing GTA 5 on next-gen just to make more money.

 

Uh, yes they are. They're not doing anything just to be nice.

 

Sure, whatever you say. If you aren't upto date with the google cache leak, you'll find out soon enough the improvements their adding to the game, especially first person mode in a vehicle and on foot. And that's just the beginning. If you think they're releasing the same game without adding ANYTHING at all, then you must be one thick anti-Rockstar tool.

 

Yes, of course R* is a business that is out to make money like any other business, however they realize that a part of running a good business is releasing a good product. If your a fan of GTA and posting on this forum you would agree that they have released quality products. This re release is a way for R* to make more money, and release a game closer to their original vision of what GTA V was meant to be, a game that is less limited by hardware then the older version. If they just wanted a quick buck and didn't care about releasing a quality title, they would have just re released GTA V much earlier and made it 1080P with a better frame rate and no other new features and sold it already.

[Lelouch The Zero]

 

 

Rockstar is not re-releasing GTA 5 on next-gen just to make more money.

 

Uh, yes they are. They're not doing anything just to be nice.

 

Sure, whatever you say. If you aren't upto date with the google cache leak, you'll find out soon enough the improvements their adding to the game, especially first person mode in a vehicle and on foot. And that's just the beginning. If you think they're releasing the same game without adding ANYTHING at all, then you must be one thick anti-Rockstar tool.

 

There's also a possibility that the game could have more missions added as well, which will be a DLC for LG .

[fac316]

I was mad originally, but then I realized i can still enjoy the PS3 version just fine (for now @ least) I go to school so I don't play it as much as I would like, so its prolly better this way (Seeing as how V came out last year and f*cked up my studying habits for like a month lol)

[Drunken Cowboy]

Nobody here hates Rockstar.

In my (and many) cases, we've just felt let-down or disappointed by V and GTA:O. As consumers, we have the right to voice our complaint toward a product. We are not entitled to anything better, but Rockstar should identify grievances if they want to remain a quality company.

 

The true fanboys are NOT who have a preferred style of GTA game, it's those who swear undying allegiance towards Rockstar no matter what.

[ramtastic]

 

 

Rockstar is not re-releasing GTA 5 on next-gen just to make more money.

 

Uh, yes they are. They're not doing anything just to be nice.

 

Sure, whatever you say. If you aren't upto date with the google cache leak, you'll find out soon enough the improvements their adding to the game, especially first person mode in a vehicle and on foot. And that's just the beginning. If you think they're releasing the same game without adding ANYTHING at all, then you must be one thick anti-Rockstar tool.

 

I think you missed the point - sure, they aren't just increasing the resolution and repackaging the game, but at the same time they aren't giving it away either. They aren't even offering any sort of trade in on old copies. I'm not complaining, but don't act like R* are doing us all a favor by releasing this, they stand to make a hell of a lot of money from it.

[bfett21]

I think you missed the point - sure, they aren't just increasing the resolution and repackaging the game, but at the same time they aren't giving it away either. They aren't even offering any sort of trade in on old copies. I'm not complaining, but don't act like R* are doing us all a favor by releasing this, they stand to make a hell of a lot of money from it.

You understand how capitalism works yes?

Edited September 26, 2014 by Andreas
Removed quote-train.

[ramtastic]

You understand how capitalism works yes?

I should hope so - my time spent studying for a degree in economics would have been a huge waste if I didn't understand it. What part of my sentence contradicts knowledge of capitalism?

Edited September 26, 2014 by Andreas
Removed quote-train.

[MonsterCockDude]

 

 

 

Rockstar is not re-releasing GTA 5 on next-gen just to make more money.

 

Uh, yes they are. They're not doing anything just to be nice.

 

Sure, whatever you say. If you aren't upto date with the google cache leak, you'll find out soon enough the improvements their adding to the game, especially first person mode in a vehicle and on foot. And that's just the beginning. If you think they're releasing the same game without adding ANYTHING at all, then you must be one thick anti-Rockstar tool.

 

There's also a possibility that the game could have more missions added as well, which will be a DLC for LG .

 

What incentive would R* have to do this?

 

Releasing new missions as DLC on old consoles would be worse quality then new missions on new consoles as they would have more hardware limitations.

 

Re releasing the game and DLC on new consoles and making it so people who would have bought the DLC for the game in the first place, also re buy the game would make a lot more money for R* as well.

 

 

Basically from a game design standard and a money making standard, developing mission or story DLC and having it on the last gen consoles would hurt R* more.

[fefenc]

How wouldn't we bitch and complain about how R* is treating their fanbase? Some fellas from the forums has questioned R* about they promoting money glitchers and god mode glitchers that ruins the game (aka Dom and Teddy) on their livestreams at R* site and R* has deleted the questioning threads and they've suspended the right of our buddies from posting on their support forums.

 

Yes, we have a lot of reasons to get disappointed with R*.

Edited September 25, 2014 by fefenc

[Choco Taco]

 

 

Rockstar is not re-releasing GTA 5 on next-gen just to make more money.

 

Uh, yes they are. They're not doing anything just to be nice.

 

Sure, whatever you say. If you aren't upto date with the google cache leak, you'll find out soon enough the improvements their adding to the game, especially first person mode in a vehicle and on foot. And that's just the beginning. If you think they're releasing the same game without adding ANYTHING at all, then you must be one thick anti-Rockstar tool.

 

 

Like I said, they're not doing anything to be nice. They're trying to get as many people as they can to re-purchase the game to maximize profits. They know that a lot more people will buy it again if they include some new features.

 

Things like first-person view and the Dukes could have easily been in the last gen versions. They didn't include them because they needed to keep things to add in current gen. They did the same thing with online. Some of the online features would have been useful in single player, but they made it online only to get people to play online where they can make more money.

 

So, one more time - They're not doing anything just to be nice. If you can't understand that, then you must be one dumb tool.

[THE_TREVALEV]

Rockstar sells shark cards so they can make some money back from all the DLC they create.

Stopped reading there. If you think it costs 65+ million to make a few retextured vehicles, you don't know much video game development. How much it did it take to create the map? A billion? They're releasing it free for psychological reasons. They release it free, people see it as them being the good guy developer, and in return, buy shark cards to buy the crap and fit in with the rest of the players. It's genius. Instead of making 99 cents for a plane, they can make 50 from a guy buying a shark card so that he can afford it.

Edited September 25, 2014 by THE_TREVALEV

[DopeFresh]

because giving people who buy the game again cars that we all loved in the previous game is showing that they care about the community.... If they really did care about the community, they would release the cars a little after next gen is released. But they wont because they will lose money if they care.

[LawasDS]

 

Rockstar sells shark cards so they can make some money back from all the DLC they create.

Stopped reading there. If you think it costs 65+ million to make a few retextured vehicles, you don't know much video game development. How much it did it take to create the map? A billion? They're releasing it free for psychological reasons. They release it free, people see it as them being the good guy developer, and in return, buy shark cards to buy the crap and fit in with the rest of the players. It's genius. Instead of making 99 cents for a plane, they can make 50 from a guy buying a shark card so that he can afford it.

 

 

Bro, don't even bother to explain this, I have explained this already like 10 times, and many others.

 

Still in a couple of days there will be someone again saying:

 

DUDE THEIR ARE FREE DLC SHUT UP ROCKSTAR ARE A VERY NICE COMPANY!!!!!!!

 

 

And again and again for eternity.

[Lethal Vaccine]

Nobody here hates Rockstar.

In my (and many) cases, we've just felt let-down or disappointed by V and GTA:O. As consumers, we have the right to voice our complaint toward a product. We are not entitled to anything better, but Rockstar should identify grievances if they want to remain a quality company.

 

The true fanboys are NOT who have a preferred style of GTA game, it's those who swear undying allegiance towards Rockstar no matter what.

 

This.

 

I don't hate Rockstar at all. I simply, like you said, think V is the weakest one to date for my tastes and it's the first one in the series thus far that left a sour taste in my mouth.

 

I may criticize V a lot...But just cuz I am pointing out negatives doesn't mean I think it's a 0/10 or something pathetic. I still rate it a 6/10, but it's just not the "game(s)" I used to love in the series, that's for sure.

 

Am I the only one on this forum who doesn't give a damn about PC, Xbox One, PS4 Versions of this game? GTA V on my PS3 is the only GTA V I will ever know and I am satisfied with it. It certainly has some major discrepancies, though, thus the low(er) score as a 6/10 instead of the usual 8+/10 that I rated all 5 3D Era Games and IV + Episodes.

 

I criticize the game. I don't throw my hands up in the air and freak the f*ck out and call Rockstar, Cockstar and all these stupid names and say that Rockstar is robbing everyone, etc, etc. That's just laughable. I get the FULL experience out of these games by doing everything possible and it's surely worth the money.

 

EDIT: I forgot to add. Yes, I hate GTAO. But do I like any Online games, period? No. And when it comes to GTA, a game that never bothered to obsess over Online and was always a game you played by yourself or with a friend that came over to your house going through the story and to 100%, it could of been just as good if not better without the Online component. I honestly believe the single player experience could of been 10 times better if there wasn't the Online to focus on.

Edited September 26, 2014 by Militia

[iam2fresh]

im honestly surprised OG or osho hasn't showed up and give us a long ass reason why 5 was disappointing to them

[Lethal Vaccine]

im honestly surprised OG or osho hasn't showed up and give us a long ass reason why 5 was disappointing to them

 

Why not? If it's disappointing for them and the next guy, what's the matter? Is that too hard for you or the next guy to fathom?

 

If they don't like it, they don't like it. It should be nobody's concern but their own. They can share their opinion...

[King Vercetti]

 

Bro, don't even bother to explain this, I have explained this already like 10 times, and many others.

 

Still in a couple of days there will be someone again saying:

 

DUDE THEIR ARE FREE DLC SHUT UP ROCKSTAR ARE A VERY NICE COMPANY!!!!!!!

 

 

And again and again for eternity.

 

 

 

Except that the DLC is completely free. I don't understand how this issue keeps coming up. Now, I do agree that any and all of us have a right to complain if we disagree with the quality of said DLC, it's frequency, or content. But whether a player likes it or not, it is free. I paid $150 for the game over a year ago because I got the collector's edition, and since that day, I haven't spent another penny. Of course, everyone has the option to buy cash cards if they want, but is not a requirement. I certainly haven't. I have no need for them, but I have no problem with anyone that does either. It's their game to play however they choose. The production of the DLC does however cost Rockstar money. Artists, programmers, and managers all have to be paid. If the game were made by some other companies, we would have probably been paying for each of these DLC packs, but we haven't. They could have charged for each individual car, gun, and added mission since launch. But they haven't. This is why I feel like the complaints are unjustified.

 

Yes, I feel like some complaints are completely fair, and I have several of my own. I am frustrated about the heists as much as everyone else. I wish R* wasn't always so tight lipped about their plans. I agree with many that as much as the mountains are breathtaking and fun to explore, I would have gladly traded one or two for another small town. But we could nitpick forever on things like that. Those complaints are perfectly fair though. What isn't, is the constant complaining about cash cards, how Online "ruined" single player, why we aren't getting such and such a car, and how greedy Rockstar is. Anyway, I'm getting carried away, so I'll stop. lol I'm not angry with anyone at all, and I love the debates on this forum. The only thing I hate is the repeated and rehashed complaints that resurface every two days.