Do You Think We Will See Some Sort Of Map Expansion On Next Gen?

[Charles_Lee_Raye]

 

 

 

Nope. This game is winding down, on either gen console. They're going to be shifting resources to the new Red Dead pretty soon.

Lol... lets see what next gen sales figures are from nov 18th till the end of the year before we put our foot in our mouths huh bud?

 

Yeah, I'm sure people will be running out to spend $70 bucks on that advanced foliage system and new tunes on the car radio.

 

This game is already a year old. They should've had a major expansion by now in order to keep people interested and draw in new players, but they've been too busy fixing bugs and chasing hackers. Even the port doesn't have much fresh material to make it worth buying the game on the new console. They'll sell a bunch of copies to the devoted and dwindling base of fanboys, but they really need to draw in NEW players to stay alive, and that won't happen when there are a plenty of brand new games out there to play.

I find it incredibly odd that every person on this forum. Yes nearly every single poster ignores the current gen market as a standalone entity.

 

Ps4/xBone users are out there that have ditched their ps3/360 already and therefore have not been a part of Gta5 yet. Meaning there is an entire uptapped market out there for rockstar to engage. Sales I believe have not surpassed 10 mil on either system since last I checked but that will change.

 

This coming xmas/holiday season many will make the upgrade regardless of Gta. Thats a whole other batch of potential customers.

 

Now you are right in saying the population now as compared to launch is significantly lower. That happens with all persistent online games plus the upgrading to current gen is still ignored. Theres probly people that have upgraded and quit playing but could return with the new gen release.

 

And I love how everyone assumes theres only new foliage and a couple vehicles. Its much more than that.

[DaCosta]

Sadly, I voted no to both. I think it's unlikely we'll see an expansion - at least initially.

 

Personally I'd consider them having a new island, accessible by boat or plane, with its own airport and town. Somewhere, midway in the game, a new story arc could break with the main characters heading to the island for a couple of extra hours gameplay before returning to Los Santos for the finale. They could all do with some holidaying before the sh*t hits the fan later down the line!

 

Most likely expansion would be North Yankton, but you would only be able to access it via loading screen from the airport.

 

In the future, they've promised us a "World" of online - so there's no doubt there's more mappage in the pipeline.

[LonerStoner97]

Im kind of expecting r* to let us fly to NY, idk about LC though.

[CarimboHanky]

i dont think we would see such thing as map expansions for V...

 

now for VI is a whole different story. they should take advantge of the power of the new consoles and bring us a vast world!

[Nomad0202]

 

No. It took about 4 years and tens of millions of dollars to make this one.

 

$265 Million to be exact, but how do you know they weren't already planned during the initial stages of development?

 

Just playing devil's advocate here...

 

Edit: Just to add, they made $1 Billion in sales in the first three days. That's about a 400% return on their investment.

 

Yeah. It's not that simple is it? That $265m includes things like the enormous marketing costs, music licensing, software licensing etc., The profits go many different ways to Take-Two's share holders, to fund new titles, etc... not forgetting Microsoft and Sony's cut. Most of it was already earmarked. If they are spending millions on maps I think it's for GTA 6. That's all got to come out of the profit. How much will GTA6 cost? More than $265m that's for sure. In any case, the game has not come out on next gen, were they to add to the map now it would be seen as admission that it is not good enough after just 12 months. How would that look? And even worse to send us all back to 2008 and Liberty City.

Edited September 24, 2014 by Nomad0202

[Charles_Lee_Raye]

 

 

No. It took about 4 years and tens of millions of dollars to make this one.

This. Let's be realistic guys. Rockstar aren't going to create a brand new city as dlc, that's ridiculous. If we're lucky we'll get the yacht that was featured in the single player mission when Micheal crashes Tracy's boat party with the porn producers. The extent of future dlc will probably remain as it has, with new cars, planes, boats, clothes, and missions.

 

God some of you guys have the worst business sense ive seen. Youre plain morons when it comes to running a business and generating profits.

 

As another poster said they made 1 $ billion in 3 days and so had a 400% ROI in 3 fvcking days!!!.

 

Thats excluding future sales beyond those three days plus cash card sales. And yah there is the continued maintenance cost of keeping servers running but nothing costing hundreds of millions.

 

After those three days alone they had 700 $ mil in the bank. They could make and release two more 265 million $ projects that would probly generate more profit maybe not 1bil in 3 days but yab I bet they could flip it.

[Angerbox]

Wtf? When did they announce ps5?

[AlienTwo]

Who votes "maybe"?

[K.Walters]

I think we`ll get it at some point. Maybe together with a short Story DLC. You know the DLC takes place on that map and once you finish it you can travel there via airport. Online would have it instantly unlocked. Would probably cost around 20-30 euros. My bets are on North Yankton or Liberty City, since NY is already started and LC just needs a bit of expanding and porting.

[Slasher]

Maybe, not expecting them too but they've done it with Midnight Club: Los Angeles so there's a chance they'll expand the map or maybe even add North Yankton (highly doubt it though).

[SpidersWeb]

So I have been thinking ever since the next gen announcement if there could possibly be some map expansion since those consoles could handle it. Somewhere like North Yankton. I think its a possibility but im not getting my hopes up on it

 

The previous generation could handle it fine. You only load one at a time.

They didn't do it because making a new city takes a ton of time and investment.

 

While we'd all like the map to expand a bit, more content etc, we'll probably be waiting for GTA6 or at least a new version of GTAV (kind of like Vice City and San Andreas were to GTA3).

[DopeFresh]

if it cant go on last gen consoles then it wont happen. the only thing that I could see happening is a port of liberty city from gta 4.

[X S]

if it cant go on last gen consoles then it wont happen. the only thing that I could see happening is a port of liberty city from gta 4.

 

Problem solved

 

[Tekno_Gecko]

i feel like Liberty city could be a thing since they already have a decent map already textured for that from GTAIV which they could probably just pretty up a little and north yankton is already textured in conjunction to GTAV so that could also be a thing but north yankton is kinda small so it might be hard to fit i with the rest of the game.

[S-M-O-K-E]

R* said before this game even released that online would be an ever growing & expanding world. Weather it be from DLC content, or cities from future GTA titles, or both, im sure at some point we will have some sort of addition.

 

As already said, they wont create a new online for future GTA releases on current gen. They will likely just add those maps/cities.

 

R* knows just how much potential GTA:O has & with the power of the new consoles & PC, they will be able to capitalize. At least i really hope so!

[Shabazz916]

R* said before this game even released that online would be an ever growing & expanding world. Weather it be from DLC content, or cities from future GTA titles, or both, im sure at some point we will have some sort of addition.

 

As already said, they wont create a new online for future GTA releases on current gen. They will likely just add those maps/cities.

 

R* knows just how much potential GTA:O has & with the power of the new consoles & PC, they will be able to capitalize. At least i really hope so!

rock star knows if they create extra land.. say triple the map ppl will pay for dlc eventually

if it cant go on last gen consoles then it wont happen. the only thing that I could see happening is a port of liberty city from gta 4.

thats sounds stupid... if u want ppl to switch over to kill old gen... ppl wnt like it but new ppl turn 18 everyday who dnt have the game

[Darth_Rob]

 

 

 

Nope. This game is winding down, on either gen console. They're going to be shifting resources to the new Red Dead pretty soon.

Lol... lets see what next gen sales figures are from nov 18th till the end of the year before we put our foot in our mouths huh bud?

 

Yeah, I'm sure people will be running out to spend $70 bucks on that advanced foliage system and new tunes on the car radio.

 

This game is already a year old. They should've had a major expansion by now in order to keep people interested and draw in new players, but they've been too busy fixing bugs and chasing hackers. Even the port doesn't have much fresh material to make it worth buying the game on the new console. They'll sell a bunch of copies to the devoted and dwindling base of fanboys, but they really need to draw in NEW players to stay alive, and that won't happen when there are a plenty of brand new games out there to play.

I find it incredibly odd that every person on this forum. Yes nearly every single poster ignores the current gen market as a standalone entity.

 

Ps4/xBone users are out there that have ditched their ps3/360 already and therefore have not been a part of Gta5 yet. Meaning there is an entire uptapped market out there for rockstar to engage. Sales I believe have not surpassed 10 mil on either system since last I checked but that will change.

 

 

 

 

We're talking about a game that's been out for over a year. It's not going to generate as much excitement as you think - not unless they add a TON of new content at LAUNCH, which they aren't. Are the new gen consoles are getting is the stuff they had to strip out of the old gen version at the last minute. It's like the "Director's Cut" of "Talladega Nights" on Blue Ray. Sure, it might be interesting to see, but are you really going to run out and buy the movie again for a few little extras?

[am30]

The map size was reduced for the current version of the game. It would be good if the cut areas were included in the newer version of the game. The current map with 30 players is going to be pretty crowded.

[Shabazz916]

 

 

 

 

Nope. This game is winding down, on either gen console. They're going to be shifting resources to the new Red Dead pretty soon.

Lol... lets see what next gen sales figures are from nov 18th till the end of the year before we put our foot in our mouths huh bud?

 

Yeah, I'm sure people will be running out to spend $70 bucks on that advanced foliage system and new tunes on the car radio.

 

This game is already a year old. They should've had a major expansion by now in order to keep people interested and draw in new players, but they've been too busy fixing bugs and chasing hackers. Even the port doesn't have much fresh material to make it worth buying the game on the new console. They'll sell a bunch of copies to the devoted and dwindling base of fanboys, but they really need to draw in NEW players to stay alive, and that won't happen when there are a plenty of brand new games out there to play.

I find it incredibly odd that every person on this forum. Yes nearly every single poster ignores the current gen market as a standalone entity.

 

Ps4/xBone users are out there that have ditched their ps3/360 already and therefore have not been a part of Gta5 yet. Meaning there is an entire uptapped market out there for rockstar to engage. Sales I believe have not surpassed 10 mil on either system since last I checked but that will change.

 

 

 

 

We're talking about a game that's been out for over a year. It's not going to generate as much excitement as you think - not unless they add a TON of new content at LAUNCH, which they aren't. Are the new gen consoles are getting is the stuff they had to strip out of the old gen version at the last minute. It's like the "Director's Cut" of "Talladega Nights" on Blue Ray. Sure, it might be interesting to see, but are you really going to run out and buy the movie again for a few little extras?

 

this is a game where they have added alot... already... we all have seen this when the game does not render all the way and lags at times... you need more power to make this better... ps3 was maxed out... now we have more storage and power... same with ps2 to ps3

[Darth_Rob]

 

this is a game where they have added alot... already... we all have seen this when the game does not render all the way and lags at times... you need more power to make this better... ps3 was maxed out... now we have more storage and power... same with ps2 to ps3

 

 

 

 

 

Well, yeah, that would sell the game to people who have been playing it steady for the past year. But people on the new gen consoles already expect ALL games to look better. If you want to draw them in, you'll need something better than wildlife and new plants. R* doesn't seem to be investing in new players, only getting the old players to buy the game again, which suggests that they aren't going to be investing much more time into it. I'd expect some graphics upgrades, new cars clothes, etc., some new single-player content, but nothing major for the online version until GTAVI, and that's a LONG way away.

 

 

Who votes "maybe"?

 

Probably the same people who call up CNN and vote "Undecided" on their public opinion polls.

Edited September 24, 2014 by Darth_Rob

[Testarossa]

Well, they did say they would be adding map updates.

[Shabazz916]

 

 

this is a game where they have added alot... already... we all have seen this when the game does not render all the way and lags at times... you need more power to make this better... ps3 was maxed out... now we have more storage and power... same with ps2 to ps3

 

 

 

 

 

Well, yeah, that would sell the game to people who have been playing it steady for the past year. But people on the new gen consoles already expect ALL games to look better. If you want to draw them in, you'll need something better than wildlife and new plants. R* doesn't seem to be investing in new players, only getting the old players to buy the game again, which suggests that they aren't going to be investing much more time into it. I'd expect some graphics upgrades, new cars clothes, etc., some new single-player content, but nothing major for the online version until GTAVI, and that's a LONG way away.

 

 

Who votes "maybe"?

 

Probably the same people who call up CNN and vote "Undecided" on their public opinion polls.

 

they will not keep making different versions of gta online that would be dumb.. they will only make one version but make different versions of single players

[CrazyRay]

Being realistic, this is all we are going to get.

Yup, people are only voting "yes" on this poll because they WANT there to be...

 

Ps4/xBone users are out there that have ditched their ps3/360 already and therefore have not been a part of Gta5 yet. Meaning there is an entire uptapped market out there for rockstar to engage. Sales I believe have not surpassed 10 mil on either system since last I checked but that will change.

10+ on PS4, and somewhere around 4 million for XBox one, the numbers are not official because Microsoft is too embarassed to announce the numbers...

 

163 million consoles sold 33 million copies...so if we go with that ratio with 14 million consoles, you're looking at an absolute best 2.8 million copies of the "new" game...the game is dominant on PS3/360 and always will be until GTA 6

 

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Edited September 24, 2014 by CrazyRay

[Guest Billy Russo]

Only one I can see is North Yankton personally.

 

Even though Liberty City is already 'rendered' and has been a HD Era title, I see North Yankton before that because it fits more in to GTA V's 'world' and isn't as a huge. North Yankton only seems like a small place, and has been featured as a part of that story. Plus, we glitched to it, and lot of it was solid, at least the main parts, aside from the exterior where you fell through the floor.

[Nomad0202]

 

 

 

No. It took about 4 years and tens of millions of dollars to make this one.

This. Let's be realistic guys. Rockstar aren't going to create a brand new city as dlc, that's ridiculous. If we're lucky we'll get the yacht that was featured in the single player mission when Micheal crashes Tracy's boat party with the porn producers. The extent of future dlc will probably remain as it has, with new cars, planes, boats, clothes, and missions.

God some of you guys have the worst business sense ive seen. Youre plain morons when it comes to running a business and generating profits.

As another poster said they made 1 $ billion in 3 days and so had a 400% ROI in 3 fvcking days!!!.

Thats excluding future sales beyond those three days plus cash card sales. And yah there is the continued maintenance cost of keeping servers running but nothing costing hundreds of millions.

After those three days alone they had 700 $ mil in the bank. They could make and release two more 265 million $ projects that would probly generate more profit maybe not 1bil in 3 days but yab I bet they could flip it.

No. The $1b was the retail sales figure. Edited September 24, 2014 by Nomad0202

[Charles_Lee_Raye]

 

 

 

 

No. It took about 4 years and tens of millions of dollars to make this one.

This. Let's be realistic guys. Rockstar aren't going to create a brand new city as dlc, that's ridiculous. If we're lucky we'll get the yacht that was featured in the single player mission when Micheal crashes Tracy's boat party with the porn producers. The extent of future dlc will probably remain as it has, with new cars, planes, boats, clothes, and missions.

God some of you guys have the worst business sense ive seen. Youre plain morons when it comes to running a business and generating profits.

As another poster said they made 1 $ billion in 3 days and so had a 400% ROI in 3 fvcking days!!!.

Thats excluding future sales beyond those three days plus cash card sales. And yah there is the continued maintenance cost of keeping servers running but nothing costing hundreds of millions.

After those three days alone they had 700 $ mil in the bank. They could make and release two more 265 million $ projects that would probly generate more profit maybe not 1bil in 3 days but yab I bet they could flip it.

No. The $1b was the retail sales figure.

Care to elaborate? Those were the retail sales figures after the first 3 days of sale, are you disputing that fact?

 

Or that the game costed 265 $ mil to produce.

[Zankou]

Even if they ported GTA IV, they'd probably have to take into account that five years have passed between Liberty City's 2008 and Los Santos' 2013. The skyline of New York has changed since then (with the new One World Trader Center and probably a few other things), though they can just simply ignore all of that, which wouldn't be that big of a deal.

It seems the most likely right after North Yankton.

Personally, I'd love to see them parody Washington D.C., but that's just a highly unlikely fantasy.

[Charles_Lee_Raye]

 

Being realistic, this is all we are going to get.

Yup, people are only voting "yes" on this poll because they WANT there to be...

 

Ps4/xBone users are out there that have ditched their ps3/360 already and therefore have not been a part of Gta5 yet. Meaning there is an entire uptapped market out there for rockstar to engage. Sales I believe have not surpassed 10 mil on either system since last I checked but that will change.

10+ on PS4, and somewhere around 4 million for XBox one, the numbers are not official because Microsoft is too embarassed to announce the numbers...

 

163 million consoles sold 33 million copies...so if we go with that ratio with 14 million consoles, you're looking at an absolute best 2.8 million copies of the "new" game...the game is dominant on PS3/360 and always will be until GTA 6

 

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Again you are excluding another market. The people that own the game and will make the upgrade. Thats a huge number considering current gen is almost in its second year and is finally pushing out titles worthy of upgrading.

 

Ive been waiting to upgrade but havent yet because of lack of titles. Thats over this holiday season not even including Gta as a factor.

 

Now that there are some decent games coming out I will upgrade. Am I the only person on the planet doing so? Highly doubtful. Does Gta rerelease effect my decision?

Yes it does as it will also effect all the "fanboys" as you guys call them.

 

Your numbers are way off because you willfully choose to ignore certain demographics for whatever the reason.

 

I know all this and im only In my 3 rd year of business school. Im pretty confident the people making decisions at Rockstar are much more educated/ creative etc. and so know exactly what their doing.

 

Also why naysay about the people voting yes only want addons? As many posters have said Rockstar stated its an ever growing and evolving world. And they have done so thus far. Are certain things promised still undelivered absolutely.

 

But why start over? Los santos is made. North yankton already exists people even glitched to get there online so its there. Liberty city might only need some touching up or it could be a real complex task. The point is theres already landmasses it would be stupid to erase them and start over. They only need add new cities and travel between them.

 

Talk about cutting costs and increasing profit margins..

[Darth_Rob]

I think you're misreading the reasons why Rockstar is porting to the new consoles. You think it's so they can create a dynamic, ever-growing world on a game system that can finally handle it. As a cynic, I believe it's for one simple reason: it's CHEAP. They don't have to spend millions on development. Everything has already been written and coded. They can release essentially the same game with better graphics, toss in a few little extras like new cars and music, and enjoy a HUGE profit margin for very little effort.

 

What do they have to gain by creating a whole new area? They won't be able to charge people 70 bucks for it. The amount of profit won't justify the expenses.

 

Now they might release new content in the same world, like Skyrim and Fallout have done. I could even see them opening Yankton - because it's already been made. But to create a whole new city like Detroit or Miami? Not likely.

Edited September 25, 2014 by Darth_Rob

[Charles_Lee_Raye]

I think you're misreading the reasons why Rockstar is porting to the new consoles. You think it's so they can create a dynamic, ever-growing world on a game system that can finally handle it. As a cynic, I believe it's for one simple reason: it's CHEAP. They don't have to spend millions on development. Everything has already been written and coded. They can release essentially the same game with better graphics, toss in a few little extras like new cars and music, and enjoy a HUGE profit margin for very little effort.

 

What do they have to gain by creating a whole new area? They won't be able to charge people 70 bucks for it. The amount of profit won't justify the expenses.

 

Now they might release new content in the same world, like Skyrim and Fallout have done. I could even see them opening Yankton - because it's already been made. But to create a whole new city like Detroit or Miami? Not likely.

Im kinda with you. Im not thinking we would get another city for free but if gta6 came out and took place in another city it would be easy now to just connect the two landmasses via a load screen.

 

I think well get North Yankton or even the other 2 san Andreas cities but as paid dlc.

 

If I misinterpreted the Op I apologize. I dont think well get a new landmass with the rerelease I think well get them when we get a dlc like 4 had Gay tones and the bikers.