Would you agree with these car reassignments?

[justinlynch3]

1) Buffalo S - Muscle.

 

This is currently a sports car and I can't understand why. The engine sounds like a muscle car, modded right it looks like a muscle car, and it's based off the modern Dodge Charger, which far as I know counted as a muscle (though maybe it's a sedan these days being a 4 door, not really sure). This car just don't seem like a sport to me. It doesn't have that tuner vibe which sports cars has. The Buffalo S just screams bad ass muscle in it's design.

 

2) Manana - Muscle.

 

Technically we need a low riders class, but since we don't have one would anyone else this this car would be better suited to perhaps muscle then sports classic? I've heard it said before that this car doesn't fit the sports classic theme, and as the game stands, muscle is the only other place I can see it going.

 

3) Rancher XL - Off Road & SUV's.

 

Currently this truck is only selectable if you own one, it doesn't show up by default which is a crying shame. Currently a off road truck I think this should double for the SUV class and be added as a default selection for both.

 

4) Sadler - Vans.

 

For whatever reason pickup trucks are classed with van.... cause that makes total sense right? But why is the Sadler classed utility? It's clearly massively OP for that class and is no more a utility then the Bison.

 

5) Paradise - Vans.

 

I mean what do I have to say... it's a van... I mean you need no further explanation... it's literally a van. So whys it classed Off-Road?

 

 

While I'm here I want to suggest a new class, Off Road - Light. Right now a number of off road vehicles makes everything else completely obsolete. Separating Off Road into 2 classes of Light and Heavy might just help in solving this issue. Here would be my listing.

 

Off Road - Light.

- Sanchez Livery.

- Sanchez 2.

- Blazer.

- Hot-rod Blazer.

- Dune Buggy.

- BF Injection.

- Bifa (may be spelled wrong).

 

Off Road - Heavy.

- Dubsta 6X6.

- Sandking SWB.

- Sandking XL.

- Rebel.

- Rebel (rustic).

- Rancher XL.

- Patriot.

Edited September 22, 2014 by justinlynch3

[HEISENBERG6749]

Any way to thumbs down a thread? That is what is really needed here.

[DevilDaRebel]

HEISENBERG6749, on 22 Sept 2014 - 5:49 PM, said:HEISENBERG6749, on 22 Sept 2014 - 5:49 PM, said:

Any way to thumbs down a thread? That is what is really needed here.

 

Get out.

 

On topic: I agree OP, I've always wondered why the Buffalo S was never in the muscle class.

 

I don't agree too much with the Off Road classes, but I can see why would you want to.

Edited September 22, 2014 by Ibareny

[Mach1bud]

Yes I agree.

 

I also think there should be a lowrider class and a pickup truck class.

[Giantsgiants]

No. I like having my Sadler in the utility class. Otherwise, I won't be able to massively own people in utility races.

 

[eroch]

This and make the Cognoscenti Cab a sports.

[Testarossa]

The Penumbra should be in Coupes.

[Grichka Bogdanoff]

The Futo should be in Compacts

[Halal Cyborg]

I like the off road heavy but that's it

 

we just need a lowrider a class and a tuner class tbh

 

the buffalo would be OP for muscle probably

[eroch]

The Futo should be in Compacts

I think the same reason the Futo is in compacts is the same reason there are a few 4-doors in coupes (which makes literally no sense), as balance.

[Ubermacht]

 

The Futo should be in Compacts

I think the same reason the Futo is in compacts is the same reason there are a few 4-doors in coupes (which makes literally no sense), as balance.

 

R* are just getting down with all these '4-Door Coupes' coming out at the moment. Yes, I'm looking at you Germany.

 

Totally agree with the Off-Road classes though. The Sanchez, Injection and Bifta are stupidly overpowered compared to everything else, unless it's really serious off-roading, and will leave the bigger, heavy-duty trucks behind, unless of course the Dubsta and Sandking use their considerable heft to, shall we say, 'modify' the outcome of the race.

[who-dat]

 

HEISENBERG6749, on 22 Sept 2014 - 5:49 PM, said:HEISENBERG6749, on 22 Sept 2014 - 5:49 PM, said:

 

Any way to thumbs down a thread? That is what is really needed here.

 

Get out.

 

On topic: I agree OP, I've always wondered why the Buffalo S was never in the muscle class.

 

I don't agree too much with the Off Road classes, but I can see why would you want to.

He can be in this thread and state his opinion....that's what a forum is for, discussion. Heisenberg doesn't agree w/OP and he stated it, doesn't mean he cannot participate in this discussion.

 

OT: I like the 2 classes of off-road idea. And IMO, all modern cars in GTA that are or could be considered muscle, should in fact be classed in the sports car class....true muscle cars rely on raw torque and horsepower, whereas the modern cars that are classed as muscle rely on modern technology and computers to produce more power than just a large motor can offer.....they use the 'brain' of the car to augment the 'muscle' of the car.

Edited September 22, 2014 by who-dat

[HEISENBERG6749]

Buffalo based off of a Dodge Charger is not a muscle car at all. It is a sedan, with FOUR DOORS. Sports sedan at most. Muscle, definitely not.

 

Manana is based on what, a 1970's Buick Lesabre? Not a muscle car. It's a cruiser/lowrider capable. Nothing more.

Edited September 22, 2014 by HEISENBERG6749

[caz95]

can you add the impreza as i dont see it as a sports car?

[eroch]

Buffalo based off of a Dodge Challenger is not a muscle car at all. It is a sedan, with FOUR DOORS. Sports sedan at most. Muscle, definitely not.

 

Manana is based on what, a 1970's Buick Lesabre? Not a muscle car. It's a cruiser/lowrider capable. Nothing more.

The Gauntlet is a Challenger. Sorry if that was a typo. Also, cars don't need 2 doors to be muscle. Plenty of German sedans with tons of torque and bhp are muscle as far as the meaning of the word is concerned.

[V HoneyBadger V]

Buffalo based off of a Dodge Challenger is not a muscle car at all. It is a sedan, with FOUR DOORS. Sports sedan at most. Muscle, definitely not.

 

Manana is based on what, a 1970's Buick Lesabre? Not a muscle car. It's a cruiser/lowrider capable. Nothing more.

 

Buffalo is based off the Dodge Charger, not Challenger. Idiot

 

EDIT: Ninja'd by eroch, dammit!

Edited September 22, 2014 by V HoneyBadger V

[who-dat]

can you add the impreza as i dont see it as a sports car?

The Subaru Imprezza, mitsu EVO, and Toyota Altezza (the 3 cars the Sultan is based on) are all sports cars IRL.

[eroch]

 

can you add the impreza as i dont see it as a sports car?

The Subaru Imprezza, mitsu EVO, and Toyota Altezza (the 3 cars the Sultan is based on) are all sports cars IRL.

 

^ Yep. Also balance issues involved with using a car like the Sultan against speed demons like the Stanier.

[caz95]

 

can you add the impreza as i dont see it as a sports car?

The Subaru Imprezza, mitsu EVO, and Toyota Altezza (the 3 cars the Sultan is based on) are all sports cars IRL.

 

i guess as the evo and impreza are rally breed, but i looked at cars between Sedan (where id put it) and sports; Tailgater (Sedan), Corvett (Sports), Comet (Sports) and Super Daimond (Sedans) as example ok a few are there for good reason Corvet and Comet are no doubt sports, and Super Dimaond is too heavy to be considered sporty. but as it said it must be cause of it being rally bread.

Edited September 22, 2014 by carigun

[HEISENBERG6749]

 

Buffalo based off of a Dodge Challenger is not a muscle car at all. It is a sedan, with FOUR DOORS. Sports sedan at most. Muscle, definitely not.

 

Manana is based on what, a 1970's Buick Lesabre? Not a muscle car. It's a cruiser/lowrider capable. Nothing more.

The Gauntlet is a Challenger. Sorry if that was a typo. Also, cars don't need 2 doors to be muscle. Plenty of German sedans with tons of torque and bhp are muscle as far as the meaning of the word is concerned.

 

I realize my mistake and meant Charger instead of Challenger, which is a 2 door coupe. The point remains however. Muscle cars, AS THEY ARE DEFINED, are confined to 2 door American made cars. Look up the definition for yourself.

 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/muscle%20car

 

 

Buffalo based off of a Dodge Challenger is not a muscle car at all. It is a sedan, with FOUR DOORS. Sports sedan at most. Muscle, definitely not.

 

Manana is based on what, a 1970's Buick Lesabre? Not a muscle car. It's a cruiser/lowrider capable. Nothing more.

 

Buffalo is based off the Dodge Charger, not Challenger. Idiot

 

EDIT: Ninja'd by eroch, dammit!

 

If you are so smart yourself, you would have realized that the Challenger has 2 doors and the Charger has 4 and you would have known what I meant when it was clearly a mistake of the name.

[eroch]

 

 

Buffalo based off of a Dodge Challenger is not a muscle car at all. It is a sedan, with FOUR DOORS. Sports sedan at most. Muscle, definitely not.

 

Manana is based on what, a 1970's Buick Lesabre? Not a muscle car. It's a cruiser/lowrider capable. Nothing more.

The Gauntlet is a Challenger. Sorry if that was a typo. Also, cars don't need 2 doors to be muscle. Plenty of German sedans with tons of torque and bhp are muscle as far as the meaning of the word is concerned.

 

I realize my mistake and meant Charger instead of Challenger, which is a 2 door coupe. The point remains however. Muscle cars, AS THEY ARE DEFINED, are confined to 2 door American made cars. Look up the definition for yourself.

 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/muscle%20car

 

 

Buffalo based off of a Dodge Challenger is not a muscle car at all. It is a sedan, with FOUR DOORS. Sports sedan at most. Muscle, definitely not.

 

Manana is based on what, a 1970's Buick Lesabre? Not a muscle car. It's a cruiser/lowrider capable. Nothing more.

 

Buffalo is based off the Dodge Charger, not Challenger. Idiot

 

EDIT: Ninja'd by eroch, dammit!

 

If you are so smart yourself, you would have realized that the Challenger has 2 doors and the Charger has 4 and you would have known what I meant when it was clearly a mistake of the name.

 

By this definition, an AC Cobra, Ford GT, GT40, etc. are muscle card. They also don't have to be American. Holden developed several of their own Muscle cars around the time the trend picked up in the States. They don't need to be 2-door either. The original Dart had 4-door variants, but otherwise the car was the same.

Edited September 22, 2014 by eroch

[Nacho Z]

Should the Massacro be classed as a supercar? I think the Vanquish is classed as a supercar in real life and the Massacro is a little too dominant in the sports class.

[eroch]

Should the Massacro be classed as a supercar? I think the Vanquish is classed as a supercar in real life and the Massacro is a little too dominant in the sports class.

Eh, I don't think any Aston has been a super for a while. They're GT cars if anything. Even the One-77 was a bit more GT than Super.

Edited September 22, 2014 by eroch

[who-dat]

 

Should the Massacro be classed as a supercar? I think the Vanquish is classed as a supercar in real life and the Massacro is a little too dominant in the sports class.

 

Eh, I don't think any Aston has been a super since the Xj220. They're GT cars if anything. Even the One-77 was a bit more GT than Super.

XJ220 is a jag, not an Aston....

[eroch]

 

 

Should the Massacro be classed as a supercar? I think the Vanquish is classed as a supercar in real life and the Massacro is a little too dominant in the sports class.

Eh, I don't think any Aston has been a super since the Xj220. They're GT cars if anything. Even the One-77 was a bit more GT than Super.

XJ220 is a jag, not an Aston....

 

HOLY CRAP I'M BRAINDEAD TODAY. MY GOD. Earlier today I nearly thought Ford Monte Carlo after seeing that Chevy on the road.

[HEISENBERG6749]

By this definition, an AC Cobra, Ford GT, GT40, etc. are muscle card. They also don't have to be American. Holden developed several of their own Muscle cars around the time the trend picked up in the States. They don't need to be 2-door either. The original Dart had 4-door variants, but otherwise the car was the same.

 

Things can be mutually exclusive. Just because an American made car with lots of power has 2 doors, doesn't mean it is a muscle car. But, all muscle cars are American and have 2 doors with high power. I'm just going by the definition here. Don't blame me for setting the definition as I didn't do it.

[Stringer Bell]

No. I like having my Sadler in the utility class. Otherwise, I won't be able to massively own people in utility races.

 

 

 

your taste in customizations is improving

[S-M-O-K-E]

I agree with the OP.

 

In addition, i feel both the Sentinels should be in a different class. Just my opinion, but they feel like more of a sports car then a coupe. Although, they cant hang with most of the sports class.

 

Also, the Mesa would also fall in your "heavy" class of off road vehicles.

[eroch]

 

By this definition, an AC Cobra, Ford GT, GT40, etc. are muscle card. They also don't have to be American. Holden developed several of their own Muscle cars around the time the trend picked up in the States. They don't need to be 2-door either. The original Dart had 4-door variants, but otherwise the car was the same.

 

Things can be mutually exclusive. Just because an American made car with lots of power has 2 doors, doesn't mean it is a muscle car. But, all muscle cars are American and have 2 doors with high power. I'm just going by the definition here. Don't blame me for setting the definition as I didn't do it.

 

Holden created their own Muscle car(s) as well. Just because they're GM owned doesn't mean they weren't bred and built in Australia.

Edit: I think we're getting kinda off topic. let's just talk about other cars that should be moved, like the Exemplar from Coupes into Sports.

Edited September 22, 2014 by eroch

[who-dat]

^all good! just a conversation....

you're not an idiot for naming the wrong auto/maker, unless you ask honeybadger, then, I don't know what he'll say