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San Andreas: BETA Edition


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Closest to Beta CJ mod I saw was this one (it's a good work, but not close enough):

 

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Can be found at http://libertycity.ru/files/gta-san-andreas/55289-beta-lico-cjja-i-odezhda-iz-bety..html

 

It remembers this version:

 

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But I'll stick with the Beta version I posted above.

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Anyways, here is mine with a beta bandana, by this way he doesn't look that creepy since half of his face is hidden :D

 

 

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Anyways, here is mine with a beta bandana, by this way he doesn't look that creepy since half of his face is hidden :D

 

 

YFLidiu.jpg

 

 

 

Yeah but still, this is not beta stuff at all, anyway nice rims !

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Anyways, here is mine with a beta bandana, by this way he doesn't look that creepy since half of his face is hidden :D

 

 

YFLidiu.jpg

 

 

 

Yeah but still, this is not beta stuff at all, anyway nice rims !

 

Why not beta stuff at all? I mean it's just a very early texture left in game files, maybe R* started doing it and eventually left it when they saw how creepy it is. There is also another model with a texture like this one - csplas1.dff/txd in the cutscene img, he also looks like a very early made model since he is very different from all other characters. It's strange how his name is Carver but his file name is csplas which is very close to Pulaski.

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Anyways, here is mine with a beta bandana, by this way he doesn't look that creepy since half of his face is hidden :D

 

 

YFLidiu.jpg

 

 

 

Yeah but still, this is not beta stuff at all, anyway nice rims !

 

Why not beta stuff at all? I mean it's just a very early texture left in game files, maybe R* started doing it and eventually left it when they saw how creepy it is. There is also another model with a texture like this one - csplas1.dff/txd in the cutscene img, he also looks like a very early made model since he is very different from all other characters. It's strange how his name is Carver but his file name is csplas which is very close to Pulaski.How is his name Carver?

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To be honest, I was wondering the same but admitted it after GTA Series Videos, Deezire in his mod and GTA Wiki called him this.

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And how did GTA Series Video's , Deezire and GTA Wiki know that he was Officer Carver? :p Oh and how is CJ shooting like that?

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Oh and how is CJ shooting like that?

 

better question, how is he driving?

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To be honest, I was wondering the same but admitted it after GTA Series Videos, Deezire in his mod and GTA Wiki called him this.

1. GTA Wikia - haha okay

2. GTA Series - they made false claims as well

3. TTDISA is not a beta mod

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Closest to Beta CJ mod I saw was this one (it's a good work, but not close enough):

 

Can be found at http://libertycity.ru/files/gta-san-andreas/55289-beta-lico-cjja-i-odezhda-iz-bety..html

 

It remembers this version:

 

But I'll stick with the Beta version I posted above.

Tried that too back in time:

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What happens when you use Dr.Dre's eyes and all that stuff (pretty much what R* did):

w9uiueK.png

 

So all it'd need is to apply some eye changes to the head model(s).

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To be honest, I was wondering the same but admitted it after GTA Series Videos, Deezire in his mod and GTA Wiki called him this.

1. GTA Wikia - haha okay

2. GTA Series - they made false claims as well

3. TTDISA is not a beta mod

Well if we follow the logic, there is really officer Carver somewhere in the game and this guy(csplas1) is the only other cop ped(officer) which is unused. So this leads to him. There has to be a reason everyone to believe that it's him.

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What happens when you use Dr.Dre's eyes and all that stuff (pretty much what R* did):

 

 

w9uiueK.png

 

 

Haha, damn. Scary as f*ck.

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Oh and how is CJ shooting like that?

 

better question, how is he driving?

 

Only he know's :p

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To be honest, I was wondering the same but admitted it after GTA Series Videos, Deezire in his mod and GTA Wiki called him this.

1. GTA Wikia - haha okay

2. GTA Series - they made false claims as well

3. TTDISA is not a beta mod

Well if we follow the logic, there is really officer Carver somewhere in the game and this guy(csplas1) is the only other cop ped(officer) which is unused. So this leads to him. There has to be a reason everyone to believe that it's him.I do believe that cplas1 is "cutscene Pulaski 1" but that aside Carver has the voice of a black man, and was quiet possibly just a random generic per

Edit:Ped* autocorrect sorry lol

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To be honest, I was wondering the same but admitted it after GTA Series Videos, Deezire in his mod and GTA Wiki called him this.

1. GTA Wikia - haha okay

2. GTA Series - they made false claims as well

3. TTDISA is not a beta mod

Well if we follow the logic, there is really officer Carver somewhere in the game and this guy(csplas1) is the only other cop ped(officer) which is unused. So this leads to him. There has to be a reason everyone to believe that it's him.
I do believe that cplas1 is "cutscene Pulaski 1" but that aside Carver has the voice of a black man, and was quiet possibly just a random generic per

Edit:Ped* autocorrect sorry lol

 

Was going to say this! But yeah he do have a voice of Black Man

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Something is missing here. So the voice is of a black male but Vadim M was saying in his video that Carver isn't used in cutscenes. Why then he would have those quotes? And so cplas1 is either some unused pedestrian or beta Pulaski as Vadim said in his video.

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Something is missing here. So the voice is of a black male but Vadim M was saying in his video that Carver isn't used in cutscenes. Why then he would have those quotes? And so cplas1 is either some unused pedestrian or beta Pulaski as Vadim said in his video.

So right now you contradicted your self, Vadim said that he wasn't seen in Cutscenes yet the model you and many people on GTA Wikia believe to be Carver is a cutscene ped?

 

Anyway the audio is heard during gameplay and is still used in the Retail doberman, plus that cutscene model does actually look like Pulaski, though a bit older

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You probably didn't understand me or I just didn't write it well but anyway, I meant the same you said.

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Dunno why did I write this huge wall of text. Anyways, This is my thought of csplas1 model.

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If we listen to that unused cutscene sound file we hear conversation between CJ, Tenpenny and Pulaski and, according to the lines, there was also Hernandez. Since it was a cutscene, cs# models were in use.

Apparently, when the cutscene ended, CJ received instructions what to do on that mission. a.k.a no more cutscene and "cs" models.

 

Let's start. We have a strange "csplas1" model left in the cutscene files, which was definitely used in the cutscene.

 

Why we can't say that he is Carver.

1) Carver, according to the lines, wasn't featured in the cutscene.

I tried to use csplas1 in-game, but the game crashed. It must be converted.

 

2) Why developers didn't name this model as Carver or something similar, carv... crver?

 

3) According to Tenpenny, Carver works for DEA, not for CRASH. This specific model has the CRASH badge.

 

Why we can say that he is Carver.

 

No clue

 

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Why we can say that he is Pulaski?

 

1) plas might mean Pulaski but shortened.

 

2) He has CRASH badge.

 

3) He looks somewhat similar.

 

4) It is a cutscene model.

What I must point here is that the model doesn't have a "proper" face animations for the cutscene model. I mean, he can move only his jaws as in-game ped. Early model?

 

Why we cannot say that he is Pulaski?

 

1) As I said, he has no proper face animations for the cutscene model.

 

2) plas might mean something else like [pl-police as-....no clue]

 

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If he is not Carver or even Pulaski

 

This is the most interesting part of all. Of course we know just a little about the beta stage and there is always something which will remain uncovered or lost forever. Basically we are trying here to solve a big puzzle with only a few pieces and we don't even know if they were placed here in the first place.

 

Just think, what if he was used in a cutscene for the background or he was yet another cut character in the story line, or he was a placeholder or a concept.
I am really curious why the model has number "1" in the name.

 

The more you think, the more questions you have. Saying that he is Carver means nothing. People think that it is a true fact just because everyone says so. Trust me, under my video there are some people who still think that he is Ralph Pendelbury what is absolutely nonsense to me.

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2) plas might mean something else like [pl-police as-....]

 

I saw somewhere similar analysis, but it was: p-police, la-Los Angeles, s-service

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Nice thoughts Vadim. Ralph Pendelbury is just a regular cop from the final version with blonde hair color instead of brown... nothing special about him. So csplas1 really looks like Pulaski but slightly changed, then who is Carver and are there an clues of how he looked like and what he did, if he wasn't used in any cutscenes then the only thing remaining is that he was a pedestrian or appeard in some mission(Badlands?). We all have seen the beta cops which are bald so he could be a beta version of beta cop... hahah. Just thoughts lol, I'm not even thinking properly right now, writing some bullsh*t.

 

Anyway, looks like it will be a mystery unless R* ever decide to reveal to us all the beta mysteries we can't solve. Oh, and nice note Vadim M.

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1) As I said, he has no proper face animations.

Bones differed in different stages of development, mainly hierarchy

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Can I hafe the download link? BTW Dont forget thad OG LOC'S house big smokes house is. (Only in the beta)

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Nice english, proves how well you can read as well. OP LOOK THE AT!

 

Edit: Edited my post so he can understand it easier.

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I mean, to be fair, clicking an image isn't that obvious.

 

Can I hafe the download link? BTW Dont forget thad OG LOC'S house big smokes house is. (Only in the beta)

Click the GTAGarage logo on the first post to get to the place to download it, instead of you having to go back and scroll down through it, I'll just quote it for you.

 

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OG Loc's house is also done, an image of it is in the Screenshots section on the first post.

 

Happy modding!

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