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Fully upgraded car, top speed decreased.

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Forget the stats. They aren't accurate. Test the lap times of the stock and modded Serrano and see which is faster. That is the only way to know for sure. I'm not sure how the Serrano stacks up against other suv's. But I hear it isn't the fastest. I own a Huntley, Baller, Dubsta and Bee Jay XL. I've tested the lap times on all four and the Huntley was by far the quickest. If you don't want the Huntley. I hear the next fastest SUV is the Radius then the new style Baller.

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The Deadite

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Rip off the armor.

 

The armor mods slow you down.

That's not true in anyway.. why would you troll a noob for.

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Have you tried a different race? It might be the terrain type that effects it?

It's just regular street races but I have'nt tried it in Long Haul or any like that.

Forget the stats. They aren't accurate. Test the lap times of the stock and modded Serrano and see which is faster. That is the only way to know for sure. I'm not sure how the Serrano stacks up against other suv's. But I hear it isn't the fastest. I own a Huntley, Baller, Dubsta and Bee Jay XL. I've tested the lap times on all four and the Huntley was by far the quickest. If you don't want the Huntley. I hear the next fastest SUV is the Radius then the new style Baller.

Kk, thx. I'll try some different races and see. The thing is, i really like the looks of it. Maybe I should just keep it for that and get a new one for races, LOL! I can cruise with it.

Have you tried a different race? It might be the terrain type that effects it?

It's just regular street races but I have'nt tried it in Long Haul or any like that.

Forget the stats. They aren't accurate. Test the lap times of the stock and modded Serrano and see which is faster. That is the only way to know for sure. I'm not sure how the Serrano stacks up against other suv's. But I hear it isn't the fastest. I own a Huntley, Baller, Dubsta and Bee Jay XL. I've tested the lap times on all four and the Huntley was by far the quickest. If you don't want the Huntley. I hear the next fastest SUV is the Radius then the new style Baller.

Kk, thx. I'll try some different races and see. The thing is, i really like the looks of it. Maybe I should just keep it for that and get a new one for races, LOL! I can cruise with it.
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Rip off the armor.

The armor mods slow you down.

 

That's not true in anyway.. why would you troll a noob for.Who are you calling a noob kid?
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Rip off the armor.

The armor mods slow you down.

 

That's not true in anyway.. why would you troll a noob for.
Who are you calling a noob kid?

I'm pretty sure it's you he's calling a noob. :)

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Perhaps this is a bit off-topic, but it does involve the "stat bars" OP mentioned, so...

 

Has anyone else noticed how the Oracle and Oracle 2 both have a "Top Speed" rating of just a sliver over four bars at LSC in SP, but in MP it's right at the four bar mark (maybe a touch less)?

 

I haven't noticed this for other vehicles, but there are probably other examples of this.

 

So, if I go by these stat bars, the fastest (top speed rating), non-premium vehicle would be the Benefactor Schwartzer?

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Rip off the armor.

The armor mods slow you down.

That's not true in anyway.. why would you troll a noob for.
Who are you calling a noob kid?

I'm pretty sure it's you he's calling a noob. :)

Yeah LOL! Me too..LOOOOL!

Perhaps this is a bit off-topic, but it does involve the "stat bars" OP mentioned, so...

 

Has anyone else noticed how the Oracle and Oracle 2 both have a "Top Speed" rating of just a sliver over four bars at LSC in SP, but in MP it's right at the four bar mark (maybe a touch less)?

 

I haven't noticed this for other vehicles, but there are probably other examples of this.

 

So, if I go by these stat bars, the fastest (top speed rating), non-premium vehicle would be the Benefactor Schwartzer?

No I have'nt noticed. But I do have the Schwartzer though and it's really fun to drive!

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i'd suggest u either radius or granger

radius : better handling & top speed than huntley S ( as well one of fastest SUV ) . but the top speed still beaten by granger ( radius 191 mph / kmh vs granger mph / kmh ) . but lower suspension , too . this SUV capable battling aganist sultan or blista

granger : ideal for offroad transporting 7 men troops as well no diffculty navigating mountainous , rocky or even sandy areas . this SUV also durable , can resist more head ons and drive by shootings , making it favorite of NOOSE teams ( which is odd , they drive FIB variant ) . downside of this SUV has low ride height , making it obstacle for steep stairs and steep incilnes but compensated by immense torque allows driver to barrel cars , roadblocks , fences and even larger cars

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those bars are not accurate and they dont even move at all for any upgrades other than engine and turbo. if im paying 20K for brake and 40K for transmission upgrades that do nothing if those bars are accurate, well then f*ck you rockstar, suck my dick is all i gotta say. they feel faster an stop quicker than without though, so im sticking with the bars aint accurate, lol

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That's how it's always worked.. Stock cars have always been faster than tuned cars.

True. Thats also how it work irl.
Do you tune cars?
Since gta doesn't say how detailed it actually is, certain cars' modifications would be a lot more complex than just 'Enginr upgrade 1'.

The only thing that directly improves hp and torque are the cams and faster cams are a lot heavier, leading to slightly slower top speed. Although it's unnoticeable, gta still has it wrong in that it's decreased significantly.

Pretty much the same as any other modification. Turbochargers are heavy as f*ck since it needs a lot of oomf to transport exhaust gases and natural air flow through to the engine via dual turbines, often with intercoolers since they assist in cooling.

Pretty much common knowledge, I know little about cars.

What are load of sh*t, are you eight years old?. Don't talk about stuff you have no idea about.

Yeah I did say I know little but I like to go and see the work my dad does at his garage. Since yeah, he's a self employed mechanic and all. (Y)

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Can anybody verify that armor slows you down?

It does not slow you down in this game.

 

To add to that, upgrade bars are useless and bugged, some stock cars in the game are faster then the exact same car fully modded, also the bars that the game shows you when racing is actual your car at stock and the upgrades you added in general are useless, the only useful upgrade are off-road tires and spoiler.

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Can anybody verify that armor slows you down?

It does not slow you down in this game.

 

To add to that, upgrade bars are useless and bugged, some stock cars in the game are faster then the exact same car fully modded, also the bars that the game shows you when racing is actual your car at stock and the upgrades you added in general are useless, the only useful upgrade are off-road tires and spoiler.

 

tires have zero effect for me, doesnt matter which kind i use, in freemode anyway, you mean race mode?

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That's how it's always worked.. Stock cars have always been faster than tuned cars.

True. Thats also how it work irl.
Do you tune cars?

Since gta doesn't say how detailed it actually is, certain cars' modifications would be a lot more complex than just 'Enginr upgrade 1'.

 

The only thing that directly improves hp and torque are the cams and faster cams are a lot heavier, leading to slightly slower top speed. Although it's unnoticeable, gta still has it wrong in that it's decreased significantly.

 

Pretty much the same as any other modification. Turbochargers are heavy as f*ck since it needs a lot of oomf to transport exhaust gases and natural air flow through to the engine via dual turbines, often with intercoolers since they assist in cooling.

 

Pretty much common knowledge, I know little about cars.

 

 

You're missing some big chunks there. What you're saying is mostly incorrect - although changing camshaft profiles will increase horsepower output and torque (which actually leads to a higher top speed in general unless you run out of gears).

 

Extra weight isn't a big deal, once you get past about 120mph it's wind resistance that's really causing the issue.

 

But the original point still stands - you get people these days with a sports car who throw on massive spoilers and 18" chrome rims - and wonder why it's slower!

 

Edit: now I have more time, I'll elaborate. The amount of force (power) required to push through air as you speed up is exponential. If you've ever driven up to 120mph you'll notice how long it takes your car to get from 90-120 is probably just as much (if not more) as it took to get from 0 to 60. At high speed this is the biggest factor - so anything that increases wind resistance (crappy spoilers) or wastes power (big rims) will have a negative effect on top speed - but anything that improves power output (such as turbochargers, cold air intakes, free flow exhausts etc etc) allows you to reach a higher top speed because you've got more power to push through the air - the 10 or 15kg of static weight is negligible.

 

Of course you still need a gearbox setup capable of doing that speed - my old Evo would redline in 5th at ~220KPH - I couldn't go any faster because I'd kill the engine.

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The Deadite

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Can anybody verify that armor slows you down?

It does not slow you down in this game.

 

To add to that, upgrade bars are useless and bugged, some stock cars in the game are faster then the exact same car fully modded, also the bars that the game shows you when racing is actual your car at stock and the upgrades you added in general are useless, the only useful upgrade are off-road tires and spoiler.

 

tires have zero effect for me, doesnt matter which kind i use, in freemode anyway, you mean race mode?

 

Off-road tyres make the bumbs on teh sidewalk glide along them and makes you faster.

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Rip off the armor.

The armor mods slow you down.

I was reading through the post seeing if anyone posted about the armor.

This is true, it's got a post on either here on this forum or somewhere in google search from 2013 December or 2014 January about armor making your car heavy and slowing it down. They compared stats through R* social club? I think it was or iFruit app as the armor stat don't show in LSC what it increases or decreases on your rides. You need armor for some races my adder almost blew up at stock in JUMPS R US when I landed on a players car from the jump and had to finish the car blowing smoke out my Adders ass-end. Mothafukcers would been laughing at me..

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I realized this too long time ago when I was joining a compact race.

 

I saw my (not fully) modded Issi has lower Top Speed than stock one.

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I realized this too long time ago when I was joining a compact race.

 

I saw my (not fully) modded Issi has lower Top Speed than stock one.

yeah it's a bug in the game (atleast I think), hopefully will be fixed in the PS4,Xbone & PC version.

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Thats because you did'nt add the sticker bomb option yo!... Stickers add horsepower.... it's science! :p

 

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Thats because you did'nt add the sticker bomb option yo!... Stickers add horsepower.... it's science! :p

 

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LOL! Sweet Ride!

OP left "Catchup" on.

LOL?

No LOL, I don't host every race I join, LOL!
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That's how it's always worked.. Stock cars have always been faster than tuned cars.

True. Thats also how it work irl.

Do you tune cars?

 

its a joke. There's absolutely ZERO chance of a car being slower than the exact same car with a turbo added

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