HeroBrineR007 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I want to try to complete SA 100% for the secomd time, but now i want to collect special vehicles and want to do all stuff before Big Smoke mission. I posted no save file cause i feel like there's no need to upload a empty save. Plz do it on Android cause iOS saves get corrupted sometimes after saving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khsh97 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 http://gtasnp.com/download/43978 This is my basic starter save. It has firefighter, paramedics, taxi, pimping, Robbie's courier mission and burglary completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroBrineR007 Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Thanks! Now i'll have to do every mission without a single save. Or i'll use CLEO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khsh97 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Can you explain what you want to say in the above post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroBrineR007 Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Well, after saving my game blocks me of entering mission markers or stadium events. Nothing happens. So i will have to do everything without saving or just use a CLEO script to start every single mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Do saves, CLEO is the corrupter from what I have read before. If you are going to stay up 30 hours to do everything without saving you might as well do saves and just continue playing. At least then if you do have to quit there might be a working save for you. Also, use all eight save slots in rotation, do not rely on a single save slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroBrineR007 Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Well that's the prob. After saving i can't start ANY missions or stadium events at all. Thst's why i will either not save or just use CLEO to force stsrt any mission in the correct order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khsh97 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Update the game to v1.05 and see if the problem is solved. Can you provide screenshots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroBrineR007 Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 Well, i've deleted the OBB files, ALL saves, and all other SA files and cleared SA dalvik cache and normal cache and then reinstalled, and it is fixed. Well, i can upload an old save as proof if you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Retitled and Moved [snP] to trouble shooting for the continuing problem with the saves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroBrineR007 Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) Well actually i temporarily fixed it, so topic can be locked i guess. But it would be awesome if someone could find out what was causing it. Maybe some coder or idk. I'll post the corrupted save here: http://gtasnp.com/download/43995 Edited September 19, 2014 by HeroBrineR007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrionSR Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Please leave the topic open. I don't have the tools to check on this now but I might take it up at a later date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroBrineR007 Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 Ok. I hope there will be a fix cause i love that save file. Even though i am using khsh's starter save and his 99,47% save with 2 sprays remaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroBrineR007 Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share Posted October 17, 2014 Please leave the topic open. I don't have the tools to check on this now but I might take it up at a later date. If you have the tools now, could you look into my new save? I just encountered the same problem so now i had to install CLEO to start the missions. The save is here: http://gtasnp.com/download/44374 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrionSR Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 No, I don't have the proper tools, mainly a phone with CleoA that can run a few tests. I'm also likely to be short on time for a while. As much as I enjoy hunting down save glitches I'm not very optimistic about this project. I have very few clues to work with. Is this a glitch that propagates in a single save file? Strong evidence of a save glitch include: You can send the save to someone else and they get the same problem. This glitch only effects a single save and any saves derived from that save. Your other saves, new saves, and good saves downloaded from other players work just fine. Before and after saves - first it works and now it doesn't with as few changes in between as possible. Your notes suggest that you were able to temporarily fix the problem by reinstalling. This should have no effect on a save related glitch. Since the evidence is leaning strongly away from a save problem I'll hold off on my questions that might help isolate the problem. You haven't offered much detail to work with. I don't know anything about these saves or the conditions that led up to the problem. I suggest a pseudo-scientific approach to this problem; your closest approximation to a true scientific approach without getting so obsessive about it that it's no fun anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroBrineR007 Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share Posted October 17, 2014 Ik reinstalling, and other saves work fine. But this is my 3th corrupted save!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrionSR Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) Ik reinstalling, I do not understand. Details please. Missions and stadiums don't trigger. Do the radar markers appear? Can you buy clothes, trigger couriers, BMX/NRG/Chiliad, races, chili dog vendors, hotdog trucks, fast food vendors, vending machines, dates, cranes, ammu-nation, transfender, video games, gambling machines, pool, etc. Three saves, what similarities? What point in the game. Where is the save from just before the glitch? What was the last thing you did before the glitch, besides saving. Also, once you've touched the save with cleo scripts I'm no longer interested in tracking down the problem. Not that there's much I can do at this point anyway. Edited October 17, 2014 by OrionSR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroBrineR007 Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share Posted October 17, 2014 I haven't used CLEO. I started to use CLEO to trigger the missions after i noticed it didn't work. And idk when it started, it's a starter save. And i can't start Stadium events and missions, all other markers work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khsh97 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 He have used my half master save and completed the tags, snapshots, horseshoes and oysters. I think the problem is his phone or game data. I have never experienced such a problem with my game and also my master save. I think, we need to apply the similar strategy which we applied during hunting burning desire glitch. He need to provide us a save which was working before he got that glitch. The idea is that he need to backup save files to sdcard until he got that glitch, then he should provide us the save which he backed up before the glitch save. I will load the save on my phone and will see what will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroBrineR007 Posted October 18, 2014 Author Share Posted October 18, 2014 (edited) The last save that (might) be working is the save after NRG-500. Might be, cause idk Edit: Yes, that's the last working save. I'll just delete my master save and move my old save and save every 25 gang tags in one save, and if they all work i do the same with photo ops. Then i'll save every 10. And if it works after that, i can finnaly start collecting special vehicles... Edited October 18, 2014 by HeroBrineR007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrionSR Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 (edited) Wow. So you are telling me the only (primary?) difference between your post NRG save and the glitched one are the collections? I would be very much surprised to learn that collecting anything other than the last in the collection could cause any trouble. But when the last is collected a script kicks in to create pickups or give bonuses - so there is more potential for problems; this is weak evidence but worth checking. I like you strategy of progressing in chunks and double checking for the glitch. If you can narrow things down to a before and after glitch pair of saves I've got a much better chance of tracking down the problem. It would help if you could provide more details. Are you always working on a phone so it's tough to enter a lot of info? I can't load your save and look around. Paint me a picture. Add little details that don't seem significant or seem unrelated. Include "All 4" before "stadiums won't trigger" so I don't need to ask for clarification. Be specific about "all other" and include the full list of everything tested. Which "missions" cannot start? Story missions? Side-missions? The red rings that mark the mission locations don't actually do anything other than mark the spot. Something else triggers the mission, so these events need to be described separately. Do the markers (red rings, radar and map blips) display properly? An example, " When CJ enters the red ring at the 8-track stadium nothing happens, even though his driving skill is above 18%." khsh97. Have you been able to verify the glitch is in the save by testing it on your device? Edited October 18, 2014 by OrionSR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroBrineR007 Posted October 18, 2014 Author Share Posted October 18, 2014 The markers are there but it doesn't trigger ALL story missions and all Stadium events. I can trigger all things apart from those. "Can you buy clothes, trigger couriers, BMX/NRG/Chiliad, races, chili dog vendors, hotdog trucks, fast food vendors, vending machines, dates, cranes, ammu-nation, transfender, video games, gambling machines, pool, etc." ↑↑↑↑↑↑ Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khsh97 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 (edited) Yeah, I have been able to verify the glitch by testing it on my phone. See the screenshots! Edited October 18, 2014 by khsh97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrionSR Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) Really? If this is an unmodified master save, how are you triggering clothes stores, street races, ammu-nation and transfender? Please verify that the taxi, vigilante, paramedic, fire fighter, pimping and burglary missions are working properly. I suspect you are frustrated by my demanding questions, but take heart. If I'm asking these types of questions then you've gained my curiosity. I'll start poking around inside the save tomorrow. Thanks, khsh97. Verification is an important part of this process. It's game on. Do you want to play too? Replication is also key to this process. Anything that is inconsistent with Brine's results could provide an important clue. Would you be willing to run a few cleo scripts to test various settings? Should compile them for you? For that matter? Brine, do you still have CleoA installed? Can you compile your own scripts using Sanny Builder on PC? Cleo, by itself, won't cause any problems. It's cleo scripts that can cause all the problems. Have you made any progress on your post-NRG collections? I'm considering just setting all collections to done minus one. Then all you need to do is collect one to trigger the bonus scripts. Tags are the most problematic. It would be helpful if you made this test a priority. Can you still trigger missions when you save with all tags? Damn. This is going to be a difficult puzzle. My only save tool that still works on mobile saves is a hex editor. Maybe I can cram important parts of the save into a PC version template that can at least be read by SASE. That would speed up the hunt considerably. Yeah, I'll try that tomorrow. Added: Brine. Please send me a link of your working save for comparison. Edited October 19, 2014 by OrionSR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khsh97 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) I will complete master save myself with all the rare vehicles and unique stunts jumps. Then I will replay SA. I like to work on hunting save glitches. Yes, I can run Cleo tests. Send me text version of the script. Also, compile it for me. Edited October 19, 2014 by khsh97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroBrineR007 Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 I can run them to, but writing them myself, i have never done that. So i don't know if i can. And the save that's still working is right here, click it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrionSR Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Please check to see if this edited save works any better. http://gtasnp.com/44399 If this works, I'll be disappointed if you give up looking for a cause. All I did was change global variable $408, the flag that indicates that CJ is $On_Mission, back to 0. That very rarely happens on PC. I find it odd that it would happen to one person 3 times. I'm surprised that the mission markers were displayed. Are the save disks working on your glitched save? Do save icons and house markers appear on radar? When you load this save does CJ spawn in the usual spot and direction for that disk? Or where he was when he touched the disk and facing north? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroBrineR007 Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) I'll try it now But, did you edit the corrupted save or the save that was working? Cause well, the save that was working, was working fine It hasn't fixed anything. Is it possible to add the photo ops and gang tags to the working save? Edited October 19, 2014 by HeroBrineR007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrionSR Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Thanks for the quick reply. Please load my edited version of your glitched save, save, and send it back. So, not so easy after all. I'm too tired and dropping hard. I only had 3 hours sleep between work shifts last night so despite my curiosity I'm going to bed. I'm unlikely to have a chance to pick this up again for 13 hours (Go Hawks!). I'm not sure if it will be needed, but if you can compile your own scripts then I can write a complete code with lots of things to try that might work. And if it does you can recompile with fewer and fewer codes and zero it down to only the required lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroBrineR007 Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 Well i don't know how to make those scripts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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