GTA V NG Impressions from the GameStop managers conference

[Tilemaxx]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=893498

 

Fellow Junior "The Shogun" had the chance to check it out at the GameStop managers conference.

Here are his (or her) impressions:

I saw 30 minutes of gameplay of this game yesterday.

Guys the changes are astounding. Really incredible stuff. Rockstar said their goal was to push PS4 / X1 like how they pushes PS3 and 360. The environment changes they've done are incredible.

This remaster is the real deal. New trailer should be going out soon.

Ok so a few responses.

1. I saw this at the GameStop managers conference in Anehiem. Rockstar gave a 45 minute closed doors presentation.

2. They showed us multiple locals. The city, underwater areas, country side etc.

3. Foliage has been completely reworked. Tree barks been redone, individual grass blades, wild flowers etc. This applies to underwater areas as well. Completely reworked coral reefs and underwater plants.

4. Draw distance now is INSANE. One example they showed us was the main city at night. They showed it on PS3 first amd showed us how all lighting at a distance was pre baked. In the remaster its all pre loaded in real time and is dynamic. You can see lights and traffic flow from massive distances.

5. Water rendering system has been completely redone. Rivers / Ocean / rain are gorgeous

6. No release date given. They simply said soon.

7. Animal texture work has been 100 % re done.

8. Anti Aliasing looked great with little to no jaggies. Looked 1080p to me. It was demoed on PS4.

9. Promised "new" content. One example was new songs / soundtrack / radio stations.

10. Best remaster Ive seen by far. I literally gasped at the differences.

Ok thanks for the questions I'll answer what I can.

1. Character models have been improved for sure.

2. Street detail is massively improved. Rain water now pools up on the road and honestly reminded me of Infamous Second Sons wet roads.

3. Animal and Wildlife count has been upped. They specifically mentioned how much they learned from Red Dead Remption and the original GTA5 and wanted to improve animal interactions even more.

4. Animals now sport actual fur. As in strands of hair that stick out from the actual body not just flat textures like in the original release.

5. I believe this has been in development since before GTA5s actual release as they said its been heavily worked on for over a year. Believe me you can tell. This is a complete remaster not just an uprezzed port. A huge chunk of staff have to be working on this.

Cars on the road appeared 2x more or so to me.

Cant comment on physics and such guys as much of what they showed was environmental without tons of action. They showed a lot of the beautiful vistas from a debug mode where they were free camera.

Looked 30 to me. But I believe its not locked down the FPS yet.

considering the visuals I'll be shocked if its 60 at launch but Im not confirming anything.

Thats really all Ive got on impressions guys sorry I don't have more.

Considering how much they showed I think a new trailer / release date are coming shortly but haven't had confirmation of that. It appeared to me though they were gearing up for a big reveal.

 

[HOW'S ANNIE?]

Well I can say after reading this, assuming it hasn't been over hyped by the author, this is the first time I've actually felt excited for the next-gen release.

[Lowi]

nothing interesting

Edited September 12, 2014 by LowiPL

[Son of Zeus]

nothing interesting

And nothing new. All this we already know.

[bensons]

Did they have any in car camera? New locations?

[Cutter De Blanc]

REAL FUR ON ANIMALS!

 

f*ck yeah, nice to know they were spending their time working on something worthwhile

 

...

Edited September 12, 2014 by Cutter De Blanc

[Sussus Amongus]

Soon they said...

[S1N0D3UTSCHT3K]

 

nothing interesting

And nothing new. All this we already know.

 

 

I think some of it clarifies things a bit. The topics aren't new but some of the specifics weren't very clear or certain. We knew there would be better draw distance but a comment on quality is nice to hear. We knew about animal improvements but the quality of improvements weren't particularly clear from the trailer, such as the fur comments or animal interaction (we knew the animals would look better, cougars may interact with animals different, and that new animals like pets could interact with people more, but some of the details about improved visual quality are still reassuring). The 'water pooling' isn't new per se.... I mean even GTA V on PS3 had pretty cool water pooling, to be fair, and the PS4 trailer shows better water pooling. But he said it was similar to Infamous Second Son, which is 'new' in terms of quality because the PS3 version or the PS4 trailer didn't really show the water would be 'that' good. We also don't really know much about new content, other than the new music, so again it's reassuring that more content is coming I guess...

 

Also, we have no idea if it'll be 30 or 60 FPS on PS4, and he seemed to suggest that it looked 30 FPS, which would be very new info. But he said it looked like debug mode to show off the environment so that could easily be taxing the PS4 more since debug modes are not optimized in the same way a locked game mode is. Debug modes will usually not have a locked frame rate and can vary a lot more as you can so easily fly around terrain and put so many more assets into your RAM, so the framerate looking like 30 FPS doesn't for sure mean the final PS4 version will be 30 FPS.

 

More than anything, sure, it's nothing terribly new per se, but it's reassuring and provides a bit of clarification about stuff we know. And, more than anything, this guy seems to have been super impressed, so there's that. It's better than if he just wrote "meh" "it looks next-gen that's all"

Edited September 12, 2014 by S1N0D3UTSCHT3K

[liniuxs]

Its weird to me. If he/she saw 30min of gameplay and says its improved massively, how come he/she managed to mention only the details which we saw our self in the trailer?!

[Braindawg]

sounds like a load of crap to me.

[mobe]

Its weird to me. If he/she saw 30min of gameplay and says its improved massively, how come he/she managed to mention only the details which we saw our self in the trailer?!

 

They weren't shown live gameplay. It was basically a a very long trailer. It sounds like 30 minutes might have been a bit of an exaggeration though.

[VolkXue]

So how legit is this info? Because most of what mentioned you could allude from trailers and i didnt see R* mentioned in the gamestop expo information before hand? Another question is who the f*ck is running things at R* if they are giving sneak peaks to gamestop managers when their own community growing this edgy? lol Thats got to be one of the most failed ideas ever just because it not productive in any way..

Edited September 12, 2014 by VolkXue

[Son of Zeus]

Too bad the only new content mentioned is new songs/soundtrack. I think its bad news. This could mean no new places/interiors. Only pretty graphics.

 

NO! WAIT! REAL ANIMAL FUR!

 

Yeah, I'm hyped as f*ck.

[S1N0D3UTSCHT3K]

So how legit is this info? Because most of what mentioned you could allude from trailers and i didnt see R* mentioned in the gamestop expo information before hand? Another question is who the f*ck is running things at R* if they are giving sneak peaks to gamestop managers when their own community growing this edgy? lol Thats got to be one of the most failed ideas ever just because it not productive in any way..

 

that's like a fraction of 1% of their consumers tho, they care a lot less about OCD fanboys like us than the managers of a retailer that will be decided how much front door shelf space the game gets during a pretty blockbuster-laden holiday season. revenue-wise, giving them info is much more important.

 

as for legit... seems at least 3 other people verified the event and the general idea of what was shown, and 1 other said there was 'new content' that was incredible and surprising but wouldn't risk leaking it... neogaf is a pretty risky place to fake a leak on so it's probably the most legit 'leak' you'll get outside of anything official. if the post isn't locked in 2 days after the mods email/phone the users asking for some sort of real life verification, you'll know how legit it was

Edited September 12, 2014 by S1N0D3UTSCHT3K

[Osho]

Why would they risk to reveal anything "new" outside the improvements, before the right time arrives to break the surprise?

I'm quite excited to read so far.

[VolkXue]

 

So how legit is this info? Because most of what mentioned you could allude from trailers and i didnt see R* mentioned in the gamestop expo information before hand? Another question is who the f*ck is running things at R* if they are giving sneak peaks to gamestop managers when their own community growing this edgy? lol Thats got to be one of the most failed ideas ever just because it not productive in any way..

 

that's like a fraction of 1% of their consumers tho, they care a lot less about OCD fanboys like us than the managers of a retailer that will be decided how much front door shelf space the game gets during a pretty blockbuster-laden holiday season. revenue-wise, giving them info is much more important.

 

as for legit... seems at least 3 other people verified the event and the general idea of what was shown, and 1 other said there was 'new content' that was incredible and surprising but wouldn't risk leaking it... neogaf is a pretty risky place to fake a leak on so it's probably the most legit 'leak' you'll get outside of anything official. if the post isn't locked in 2 days after the mods email/phone the users asking for some sort of real life verification, you'll know how legit it was

 

I'd actually say its the majority of their community. Anywhere from forums to Rockstar facebook to youtubers are full of complaints.

 

GTA can carry itself at this point.. Every retailer will have GTA posters etc up. I dont disagree that might be the reasoning but its totally pointless for a company like R* and a title like GTA. I did look up one news article on the subject that claimed all sources where unverified so far.

[Staten]

So how legit is this info? Because most of what mentioned you could allude from trailers and i didnt see R* mentioned in the gamestop expo information before hand? Another question is who the f*ck is running things at R* if they are giving sneak peaks to gamestop managers when their own community growing this edgy? lol Thats got to be one of the most failed ideas ever just because it not productive in any way..

The poster doesn't seem to be verified yet (usually, if they're legit, a mod over there posts to say they check out, which doesn't seem to have happened yet). Even if they were, the information is stuff someone could guess based on the trailer. That said, if they were showing Gamestop managers, they would be showing magazines and websites too, with everyone would be under an NDA until R* wanted to publically announce it.

[Bill Williamson]

 

 

So how legit is this info? Because most of what mentioned you could allude from trailers and i didnt see R* mentioned in the gamestop expo information before hand? Another question is who the f*ck is running things at R* if they are giving sneak peaks to gamestop managers when their own community growing this edgy? lol Thats got to be one of the most failed ideas ever just because it not productive in any way..

 

that's like a fraction of 1% of their consumers tho, they care a lot less about OCD fanboys like us than the managers of a retailer that will be decided how much front door shelf space the game gets during a pretty blockbuster-laden holiday season. revenue-wise, giving them info is much more important.

 

as for legit... seems at least 3 other people verified the event and the general idea of what was shown, and 1 other said there was 'new content' that was incredible and surprising but wouldn't risk leaking it... neogaf is a pretty risky place to fake a leak on so it's probably the most legit 'leak' you'll get outside of anything official. if the post isn't locked in 2 days after the mods email/phone the users asking for some sort of real life verification, you'll know how legit it was

 

I'd actually say its the majority of their community. Anywhere from forums to Rockstar facebook to youtubers are full of complaints.

 

GTA can carry itself at this point.. Every retailer will have GTA posters etc up. I dont disagree that might be the reasoning but its totally pointless for a company like R* and a title like GTA. I did look up one news article on the subject that claimed all sources where unverified so far.

 

I think he was being generous with that estimate; it s the same as COD being criticised everywhere and then on release day it breaks records; it s the loud minority...your complaints are irrelevant

 

Anyway, I do hope they put new features that will make the city more interactive but this sounds great so far.

[Drill Sergeant]

Sounds dope asf

[Cyper]

Not that interesting, to be honest.

 

It's not like I expected something else - improvement in graphics is vital for a PS4/PC release.

 

The graphics have never bothered me while playing on my PS3. What do have bothered me is the lack heart put into Singleplayer, and the drastic changes to the vehicle physics, fighting mechanics, and shooting mechanics.

[Dope_0110]

No news here.. we all knew the graphics will be pushed to new lengths, which is a must since they want to set their foot and start at the top of this generation as well, which won't be too hard considering WD didn't really prove to be much of a competition.

Hope to see that new trailer, just so we can see something new, but I'll only be excited when they change ''soon'' to a date.

[theworldfamous]

I dunno, most of the actual info in this can be glanced from the trailer, or deduced in some other way.

 

Still sounds good, and kinda matches what I expect

[Braindawg]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=893498

 

 

 

Fellow Junior "The Shogun" had the chance to check it out at the GameStop managers conference.

 

Here are his (or her) impressions:

 

 

I saw 30 minutes of gameplay of this game yesterday.

 

 

 

Guys the changes are astounding. Really incredible stuff. Rockstar said their goal was to push PS4 / X1 like how they pushes PS3 and 360. The environment changes they've done are incredible.

 

 

 

This remaster is the real deal. New trailer should be going out soon.

 

 

Ok so a few responses.

 

 

 

1. I saw this at the GameStop managers conference in Anehiem. Rockstar gave a 45 minute closed doors presentation.

 

 

 

2. They showed us multiple locals. The city, underwater areas, country side etc.

 

 

 

3. Foliage has been completely reworked. Tree barks been redone, individual grass blades, wild flowers etc. This applies to underwater areas as well. Completely reworked coral reefs and underwater plants.

 

 

 

4. Draw distance now is INSANE. One example they showed us was the main city at night. They showed it on PS3 first amd showed us how all lighting at a distance was pre baked. In the remaster its all pre loaded in real time and is dynamic. You can see lights and traffic flow from massive distances.

 

 

 

5. Water rendering system has been completely redone. Rivers / Ocean / rain are gorgeous

 

 

 

6. No release date given. They simply said soon.

 

 

 

7. Animal texture work has been 100 % re done.

 

 

 

8. Anti Aliasing looked great with little to no jaggies. Looked 1080p to me. It was demoed on PS4.

 

 

 

9. Promised "new" content. One example was new songs / soundtrack / radio stations.

 

 

 

10. Best remaster Ive seen by far. I literally gasped at the differences.

 

 

Ok thanks for the questions I'll answer what I can.

 

 

 

1. Character models have been improved for sure.

 

 

 

2. Street detail is massively improved. Rain water now pools up on the road and honestly reminded me of Infamous Second Sons wet roads.

 

 

 

3. Animal and Wildlife count has been upped. They specifically mentioned how much they learned from Red Dead Remption and the original GTA5 and wanted to improve animal interactions even more.

 

 

 

4. Animals now sport actual fur. As in strands of hair that stick out from the actual body not just flat textures like in the original release.

 

 

 

5. I believe this has been in development since before GTA5s actual release as they said its been heavily worked on for over a year. Believe me you can tell. This is a complete remaster not just an uprezzed port. A huge chunk of staff have to be working on this.

 

 

Cars on the road appeared 2x more or so to me.

 

 

Cant comment on physics and such guys as much of what they showed was environmental without tons of action. They showed a lot of the beautiful vistas from a debug mode where they were free camera.

 

 

Looked 30 to me. But I believe its not locked down the FPS yet.

 

 

 

considering the visuals I'll be shocked if its 60 at launch but Im not confirming anything.

 

 

Thats really all Ive got on impressions guys sorry I don't have more.

 

 

 

Considering how much they showed I think a new trailer / release date are coming shortly but haven't had confirmation of that. It appeared to me though they were gearing up for a big reveal.

 

 

1. -

2. Why? No new locations were added as far as we know. Why bother?

3. Lies. Textures have a higher resolution. Nothing was reworked, rewatch the trailer.

 

4. Like in the trailer? -_-

5. No it wasn't. Watch the trailer.

6. Nothing new.

7. Nope, sorry. Just higher resolution textures. MAYBE 1024x1024(unlikely but whatever)

8. ...Like the trailer. Again.

9. Actually plausible.

 

"questions part"

 

1. Nope sorry. just tessellation

2. Rain water "pools up" on the street in the current version too. It's just a texture triggered to appear after it's been raining for a while. Been used by R* since Red Dead on 360/ps3

3. Not only does the new trailer show more animals, it's the game files and code that confirm some animals we havent seen yet. Horses and sh*t, maybe. (found in code, not working in game.)

4. lol no. just... no. watch the f*cking trailer.

5. Most likely. It's all content that was removed to either sell as DLC or the remastered version that were expecting now.

 

 

My diagnosis: This is a load of horse sh*t, lock this topic.

 

EDIT: Oh yeah, to anyone pissed at my negative diagnosis, be realistic and stop believing these topics.

 

 

 

Edited September 12, 2014 by MinnieMan121249

[ZZCOOL]

now let's wait for the dogs to come barking and fighting over it

 

it's like you threwa piece of food now they will come barking for it

[RichyBeats]

Well the trailer didn't highlight how the draw distance was insane so in glad about that and maybe with this draw distance they will have cops actually patrolling the city.

[IIDeathCubeKII]

sounds like a load of crap to me.

Well, thanks for those words of wisdom. Your insight knows no bounds.

[Braindawg]

Re-watch the trailer and read that list again. Most of the stuff in it is stuff seen in the trailer, or old and or false info. Actual fur? lolno. it's just a texture with bumpmaps.

[theworldfamous]

 

 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=893498

 

 

 

Fellow Junior "The Shogun" had the chance to check it out at the GameStop managers conference.

 

Here are his (or her) impressions:

 

I saw 30 minutes of gameplay of this game yesterday.

 

Guys the changes are astounding. Really incredible stuff. Rockstar said their goal was to push PS4 / X1 like how they pushes PS3 and 360. The environment changes they've done are incredible.

 

This remaster is the real deal. New trailer should be going out soon.

Ok so a few responses.

 

1. I saw this at the GameStop managers conference in Anehiem. Rockstar gave a 45 minute closed doors presentation.

 

2. They showed us multiple locals. The city, underwater areas, country side etc.

 

3. Foliage has been completely reworked. Tree barks been redone, individual grass blades, wild flowers etc. This applies to underwater areas as well. Completely reworked coral reefs and underwater plants.

 

4. Draw distance now is INSANE. One example they showed us was the main city at night. They showed it on PS3 first amd showed us how all lighting at a distance was pre baked. In the remaster its all pre loaded in real time and is dynamic. You can see lights and traffic flow from massive distances.

 

5. Water rendering system has been completely redone. Rivers / Ocean / rain are gorgeous

 

6. No release date given. They simply said soon.

 

7. Animal texture work has been 100 % re done.

 

8. Anti Aliasing looked great with little to no jaggies. Looked 1080p to me. It was demoed on PS4.

 

9. Promised "new" content. One example was new songs / soundtrack / radio stations.

 

10. Best remaster Ive seen by far. I literally gasped at the differences.

Ok thanks for the questions I'll answer what I can.

 

1. Character models have been improved for sure.

 

2. Street detail is massively improved. Rain water now pools up on the road and honestly reminded me of Infamous Second Sons wet roads.

 

3. Animal and Wildlife count has been upped. They specifically mentioned how much they learned from Red Dead Remption and the original GTA5 and wanted to improve animal interactions even more.

 

4. Animals now sport actual fur. As in strands of hair that stick out from the actual body not just flat textures like in the original release.

 

5. I believe this has been in development since before GTA5s actual release as they said its been heavily worked on for over a year. Believe me you can tell. This is a complete remaster not just an uprezzed port. A huge chunk of staff have to be working on this.

Cars on the road appeared 2x more or so to me.

Cant comment on physics and such guys as much of what they showed was environmental without tons of action. They showed a lot of the beautiful vistas from a debug mode where they were free camera.

Looked 30 to me. But I believe its not locked down the FPS yet.

 

considering the visuals I'll be shocked if its 60 at launch but Im not confirming anything.

Thats really all Ive got on impressions guys sorry I don't have more.

 

Considering how much they showed I think a new trailer / release date are coming shortly but haven't had confirmation of that. It appeared to me though they were gearing up for a big reveal.

1. -

2. Why? No new locations were added as far as we know. Why bother?

3. Lies. Textures have a higher resolution. Nothing was reworked, rewatch the trailer.

 

 

4. Like in the trailer? -_-

5. No it wasn't. Watch the trailer.

6. Nothing new.

7. Nope, sorry. Just higher resolution textures. MAYBE 1024x1024(unlikely but whatever)

8. ...Like the trailer. Again.

9. Actually plausible.

 

"questions part"

 

1. Nope sorry. just tessellation

2. Rain water "pools up" on the street in the current version too. It's just a texture triggered to appear after it's been raining for a while. Been used by R* since Red Dead on 360/ps3

3. Not only does the new trailer show more animals, it's the game files and code that confirm some animals we havent seen yet. Horses and sh*t, maybe. (found in code, not working in game.)

4. lol no. just... no. watch the f*cking trailer.

5. Most likely. It's all content that was removed to either sell as DLC or the remastered version that were expecting now.

 

 

My diagnosis: This is a load of horse sh*t, lock this topic.

 

EDIT: Oh yeah, to anyone pissed at my negative diagnosis, be realistic and stop believing these topics.

 

 

 

Agreed most of the improvements are ones afforded by moving to dx11 (tessellation, better post fx) and heavier machines (draw distance, textures).

 

I don't think anything was 'redone'. Things have been scaled up (same water solution but more detailed, same lighting but more vibrance and nuance). They went back to the original texture work and either used that or less downsampled versions of it.

 

I do believe foliage was redone. They certainly added quite a lot of it and it looks different than before. But there's also evidence that the foliage in the past gen version was overhauled at some point during development and removed in places to improve performance. As far as upgrades go, it's a pretty obvious one. Adding the animals is a simple addition and improved AI is also something that can be kinda plugged into the existing game.

 

As for kids expecting entirely new or remodeled areas and brand new chunks of gameplay. Prepare to be disappointed.

[Alvarez]

I hold my excitement in bounds.

 

So far, there was only talk about new bombastic graphics and new music. "New features" could be done pro-forma, ("we added new yoga positions, so there, new feature, as promised"), but i hope it wouldn't be that shameless.

 

What excites me most, is the modding possibility. If Rockstar don't add something, modderbase will.

Edited September 12, 2014 by Alvarez

[Braindawg]

Exactly. Everything will be smoother, sharper and shinier. That's about it, My point is that I highly doubt Rockstar had a reason to show anyone anything.

We know how the game looks. It just looks and works better now.