Bar Brawl BP FP PCJ?

[HeroBrineR007 524]

Today i wabted to do Bar Brawl and get the BP/FP PCJ for my vehicle collection.

But whatever i do, they are not BP/FP.

After getting them i shot them a few times and it exploded. I tried exploding it and pushing it into a garage and more possible solutions but it didn't help. Any solutions or is this the same like the Securicar in GTA VC Android?

 

Same thing with Hilary's Sabre Turbo.

Edited September 9, 2014 by HeroBrineR007

[Harerama Chakraborty 92]

Well, the Hilary's Sabre Turbo must be EP/FP/BP but not Damage Proof. If I remember to get Hilary's Sabre Turbo you must shoot him through the windshields then destroy his car with a Rhino (its locked and trying to take it to a garage with other heavy vehicles might explode it halfway). Also try saving it it the Link's view Apartment or El Swanko Casa (if you bought them) as they are very close.

And I think the PCJs were only BP/FP during the mission.

I don't think these Unique vehicles were cut in Android version.

Edited September 18, 2014 by Harerama Chakraborty

[HeroBrineR007 524]

Well i found it out, i got them both but the PCJ got eaten by a garage -_▪

 

Edit: Shooting him eats the BP/FP/EP.

You must drive onto him with the Rhino and push it in a garage. Same with the PCJ.

And if you don't explode it in the mission the BP/FP/EP will be eaten

Edited September 18, 2014 by HeroBrineR007

[Harerama Chakraborty 92]

Starting over VC again, let me see the properties of these cars.

[HeroBrineR007 524]

Well atleast on PC and Mobile they get eaten.

For the PCJ you have to get the Rhino in the cutscene to explode the bikes.

Otherwise it won't work.

[Harerama Chakraborty 92]

True. Tried it.

[Lethal Vaccine 7,177]

When I did VC, I obtained the BP/EP/FP Sabre Turbo from "The Driver." I am not sure what people are saying here, but on the PS2 Version, all you gotta do is this: Get the Adrenaline Pill that is close by to where the race starts. It's near the Pizza Boy shop. Then all you do is wait for him to come around the corner toward the end of the race, and simply snipe him in the head. Hillary will fall out and the door will be open. All you gotta do is get inside of it and drive it to the garage. The method on using a Rhino Tank is basically worthless, and the vehicle's remains disappear sometimes while pushing it to a garage. It's much easier to just snipe Hillary, get inside the vehicle, and drive it into a garage. It keeps the BP/EP/FP property...I assure you...

 

As for the BP/EP/FP PCJ-600...This one I could never obtain. It's very tricky and only SOMETIMES the bike keeps the proofings. It's hit or miss and one of the most odd vehicles in all of GTA history. Nobody really knows why the proofings are sometimes there and sometimes not. But I tried for this vehicle myself a whole bunch of times and I could never obtain it. I used the Tank to jump out early, let the Tank roll into both PCJ-600's and then push one of them back to the garage...Never worked...

 

Anyways, other than the BP/EP/FP PCJ-600, the EP/FP Hotring Racer is another tricky vehicle to obtain.

 

All I can say, is at least the AP Admiral from "Guardian Angel" is simple to get and it's the best special vehicle to obtain in the game, next to the BP/EP/FP Sabre Turbo from "The Driver."

 

Out of all of VC proof vehicles, there is only 10 in total. AP Admiral, BP/EP/FP Sabre Turbo, BP/EP/FP PCJ-600, BP/EP/FP Squalo, EP/FP Squalo, EP/FP Hotring Racer, Unique/FP Romero, FP Cheetah, FP Infernus, and FP Banshee.

 

I have 6 out of 10. I didn't care to get either of the Squalo's, and I didn't get the EP/FP Hotring Racer nor the BP/FP/EP PCJ-600. However, good news is the EP/FP Hotring Racer can be obtained at any time, even after you reach 100%...As the "Hotring" side mission can be replayed as many times as you want...So someday, I'll obtain it and have 7 out of 10 proof vehicles from VC...

 

Here is my collections in all 5 3D Era GTA Games:

 

GTA III: BP/FP Securicar, AP/EC Stretch, BP/FP Trashmaster, BP/DP Barracks OL, AP Bobcat, BP/DP Patriot, AP Cheetah

 

GTA VC: AP Admiral, Unique/FP Romero's Hearse, BP/EP/FP Sabre Turbo, FP Cheetah, FP Infernus, FP Banshee, Unique Love Fist Limo, Unique Spand Express, EC Maverick, EC Stretch, EC Walton, EC PCJ-600, EC Admiral, EC Sanchez, EC Rancher

 

GTA SA: AP Tampa, AP Admiral, AP Sentinel, BP/EP/FP/MP Patriot, AP Sabre, AP Sadler, BP/EP/FP/MP Fortune, BP/EP/FP/MP Elegy, Off-Road/FP ZR-350, AP Merit, AP Savanna, AP Boxville, DP/EP/FP/MP Rancher, DP/FP Rumpo, AP/EC Maverick, AP Mothership, AP Buffalo, AP Newsvan, AP/EC Vortex, AP Infernus, AP Glendale, Unique/BP/FP SWAT Tank, AP Feltzer

 

GTA LCS: H/DP/EC Sentinel, H/BP/FP/WP/EC PCJ-600, BP/DP/FP/PP Stretch, AP Forelli Exsess, AP Banshee, AP Cheetah, AP Stinger, AP Patriot, AP BF Injection, H/BP/DP/FP/PP/TP/EC/PC Landstalker, Unique/BP/FP/PP/EC Avenger, H/DP Yardie Lobo

 

GTA VCS: H/FP/PP/EC Walton, BP/FP/EC Pony, UH Freeway, UH Wintergreen, H/PP/TP/EC Sentinel XS, H/EP/FP/PP/EC Infernus, BP/FP/PP/EC Stretch, EP/FP PCJ-600, AP/EC Sentinel XS, EP/FP/TP Admiral, FP/PP/TP/EC Stinger, H/WP Sanchez

Edited September 25, 2014 by Militia

[Harerama Chakraborty 92]

Nice collection and explanation, and sniping was a good idea .

[Lethal Vaccine 7,177]

Thanks man. Yeah, I really like my collections, too. Really happy I went through all these games recently and went for 100% Completion, Perfect Stats, and a Proof Vehicle Collection. I always have 0 Deaths, 0 Busted, 0 Cheats, and 0 Missions Failed. The ONLY time I fail a mission or have a death is when it's REQUIRED to obtain a vehicle. Most vehicles require the mission failure, but only a handful require a death. I only have deaths in SA, and I have 3 deaths. I had to die to obtain the AP Boxville, AP/EC Maverick, and AP Mothership.

 

Also, the method on sniping Hillary for the BP/EP/FP Sabre Turbo has been known for years. I did this same method in my first playthrough of VC back in 2007 with a friend. We obtained the vehicle by sniping him and just driving it to a garage. It was very easy, tbh. The Tank method of destroying it and then pushing it to a garage bearly works cuz the car vanishes right in front of you a lot when you get near the closest garage and the Tank is so wide it's difficult to push it into the garage...So the sniping method is quickest and easiest.

 

As for the BP/EP/FP PCJ-600....This vehicle I could never obtain. It's strange...

[HeroBrineR007 524]

I got all except the Hotrimg Racer and FP Banshee and Infernus. Still working on it.

[Lethal Vaccine 7,177]

Well, the three FP vehicles from the races aren't hard at all. You just "scare" the driver out by shooting the car or ramming the car, and take it to the garage. Very simple. The EP/FP Hotring Racer can be obtained anytime since it's from the Hotring side mission which can be played anytime you want, even after 100% Completion. However, I never even attempted it yet, knowing I can get it eventually...I just gotta turn on the game and try...

Edited September 25, 2014 by Militia

[HeroBrineR007 524]

Well the FP Vehicles aren't that easy.

When the cars come, always the Cheetah wins (of course, Cheetah is the best) and the other cars just dissapear.

[Harerama Chakraborty 92]

Thanks man. Yeah, I really like my collections, too. Really happy I went through all these games recently and went for 100% Completion, Perfect Stats, and a Proof Vehicle Collection. I always have 0 Deaths, 0 Busted, 0 Cheats, and 0 Missions Failed. The ONLY time I fail a mission or have a death is when it's REQUIRED to obtain a vehicle. Most vehicles require the mission failure, but only a handful require a death. I only have deaths in SA, and I have 3 deaths. I had to die to obtain the AP Boxville, AP/EC Maverick, and AP Mothership.

 

Also, the method on sniping Hillary for the BP/EP/FP Sabre Turbo has been known for years. I did this same method in my first playthrough of VC back in 2007 with a friend. We obtained the vehicle by sniping him and just driving it to a garage. It was very easy, tbh. The Tank method of destroying it and then pushing it to a garage bearly works cuz the car vanishes right in front of you a lot when you get near the closest garage and the Tank is so wide it's difficult to push it into the garage...So the sniping method is quickest and easiest.

 

As for the BP/EP/FP PCJ-600....This vehicle I could never obtain. It's strange...

Same for me. I always try my best to have 0 times wasted, busted, and 0 mission failures. After completing a mission, I save the game. So if I fail or die, I always load the old savegame where I never died

[Andreaz1 1,065]

Well, the three FP vehicles from the races aren't hard at all. You just "scare" the driver out by shooting the car or ramming the car, and take it to the garage. Very simple. The EP/FP Hotring Racer can be obtained anytime since it's from the Hotring side mission which can be played anytime you want, even after 100% Completion. However, I never even attempted it yet, knowing I can get it eventually...I just gotta turn on the game and try...

Stealing one is easy, but getting them out of the stadium isn't possible.

[Lethal Vaccine 7,177]

Well the FP Vehicles aren't that easy.

When the cars come, always the Cheetah wins (of course, Cheetah is the best) and the other cars just dissapear.

 

? That's odd...Cuz the Infernus, Cheetah, and Banshee would win/lose in my game for PS2. It wasn't ALWAYS the Cheetah. They don't disappear, either. All you gotta do is fail the race. Simply follow the car you want (FP Infernus, FP Banshee, FP Cheetah) until the very end of the race. Once the race is either won or failed, the car is still in sight. Of course if you don't have your camera on the vehicle of your choice, it'll be long gone. You can't just hurry up to the end of the race, come in 1st, and wait for the other cars to cross the finish line. It won't work like that. All I did for 2 out of the 3 vehicles was just stayed behind in the race and when all 4 of us passed the finish line, or 2 of us, or 3 of us, I would target the car of my choice, do a drive by on the vehicle and usually, about 60% of the time, the driver would leave the car and all I do is drive it to the garage. Honestly, one of the easiest vehicles to get in all GTA games with proof vehicles...

Same for me. I always try my best to have 0 times wasted, busted, and 0 mission failures. After completing a mission, I save the game. So if I fail or die, I always load the old savegame where I never died

 

Yup. That's exactly what I do, too. Of course I die sometimes. Of course I fail a mission sometimes, etc. But if I do, I reload, like you said. By the end, I ALWAYS have 0 Deaths, 0 Busted, 0 Cheats, 0 Missions Failed. I ONLY fail a mission or have a death if it's required to obtain a vehicle, but my only game with deaths in it is SA, to obtain the AP Boxville, AP Mothership, and AP/EC Maverick.

 

Well, the three FP vehicles from the races aren't hard at all. You just "scare" the driver out by shooting the car or ramming the car, and take it to the garage. Very simple. The EP/FP Hotring Racer can be obtained anytime since it's from the Hotring side mission which can be played anytime you want, even after 100% Completion. However, I never even attempted it yet, knowing I can get it eventually...I just gotta turn on the game and try...

Stealing one is easy, but getting them out of the stadium isn't possible.

 

 

Dude, you're very wrong...You can get the EP/FP Hotring Racer, easily. It's tricky, but not even close to impossible, very doable...

 

 

 

 

[Harerama Chakraborty 92]

Well the FP Vehicles aren't that easy.

When the cars come, always the Cheetah wins (of course, Cheetah is the best) and the other cars just dissapear.

Well, even for me, mostly the Cheetah wins in my game, some 70%. Infernus wins only about 25% of the time and the Banshee is mostly out of my sight. But they don't disappear, stop in the middle of the road for half a minute or one, and all three cars should pass through.

[Lethal Vaccine 7,177]

 

Well the FP Vehicles aren't that easy.

When the cars come, always the Cheetah wins (of course, Cheetah is the best) and the other cars just dissapear.

Well, even for me, mostly the Cheetah wins in my game, some 70%. Infernus wins only about 25% of the time and the Banshee is mostly out of my sight. But they don't disappear, stop in the middle of the road for half a minute or one, and all three cars should pass through.

 

 

Yup, that's another way to do it. Come in 1st, but do NOT pass the finish line. Just sit there at the end and use the "look back camera" and when they come to the finish line...Follow one. It's really easy, imo. As I said above, probably some of the easiest vehicles out of all of GTA III, VC, SA, LCS, and VCS proof vehicles.

[Harerama Chakraborty 92]

Finally came to know that:

The PCJ-600 is only BP/FP in the mission, and after passing or failing or saving it in a garage makes it lose its entire proofing.

And for the Sabre Turbo it's only BP/EP/FP in the PS2 version of the game. It was no longer BP/EP/FP in the PC, Xbox and Mobile version of the game.

[HeroBrineR007 524]

Actually not. I made the title wrong. It's BP FP EP DP.

You need to blow it up DURING the cutscene where they drive out of the alleyway otherwise you can't get it.

 

And the Sabre Turbo is the same, you have to explode it during the mission.

And if you don't believe me, download Vice City on your phone and download my save file or try it yourself

Edited October 1, 2014 by HeroBrineR007

[Harerama Chakraborty 92]

Playing from the beginning.

These are the vehicles I want to save:

1. Snow White Admiral (SAVED)

2. Spand Express from Jury Fury and Riot

3. Diaz's AP Admiral

4. Black Washington from All Hands on Deck! (Would be really hard)

5. The Silver PCJ-600, The Light Blue PCJ-600 and the Black N' Red Bobcat from Autocide.

6. Black Admiral from Check Out At The Check In

7. Some Black Vehicles and the Light Blue Helicopter from Loose Ends

8. Golden Stretch from Martha's Mug Shot

9. Silver Stretch from Keep Your Friends Close....

10. The EP/BP/FP Sabre Turbo from The Driver

11. The PCJs from Bar Brawl

12. Black Sentinel from Hit The Courier

And probably some others I forgot.

Also thanks for telling that you have to blow it, I thought it was not EP/BP/FP on PC.

[HeroBrineR007 524]

It's DP too, if you're talking about the PCJ

 

And you forgot the FP vehicles, Black Sanchez and why is the Black Washington very hard?

Edited October 1, 2014 by HeroBrineR007

[Harerama Chakraborty 92]

It's DP too, if you're talking about the PCJ

 

And you forgot the FP vehicles, Black Sanchez and why is the Black Washington very hard?

Black Sanchez should be easy and the Black Washington CAN be acquired if you take a boat from one of the dead men or else it would be hard (atleast for me).

And yes, I will also collect the FP Banshee, Infernus and Cheetah from Sunshine Auto Street Races.

[HeroBrineR007 524]

You could've said, ALL special vehicles

Well if a boat drives near Cortez's yacht, jump on it immediatly even though the french aren't dead. Then immediatly kill them and drive to the Black Washington.

You must get wasted to get it (atleast on Mobile version, which is a PC port) though cause you CAN'T leave the vehicle after. So you must let the car explode in a garage.

 

Currently i am doing my 25th gameplay ( ) and i have EVERYTHING collected till Two Bit Hit.

I only have FP vehicles, Romero's Hearse, Black Voodoo, FP EP Hotring Racer and Silver Stretch left

 

And, good luck for the AP PCJ, you'll need it.

 

 

 

Really, you'll need it

 

Edited October 1, 2014 by HeroBrineR007

[Lethal Vaccine 7,177]

I am confused here....You guys might be right about the PC Version with the BP/EP/FP Sabre Turbo, it MUST be blown up to obtain it, I am almost positive, but in PS2 I could snipe Hillary while using an Adrenaline Pill to fail the mission and simply drive it to my garage and it kept the BP/EP/FP properties.

 

As for the PCJ-600, it's NOT DP, no matter what version of the game, on PS2 and PC, all you gotta do is..........Well, why I am I explaining it? It's right here, see for yourself, and it's only BP/EP/FP, never is DP...No matter what version...

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bikes never show "damage" and dents, just drive into a few buildings, walls, cars, fall off your bike a few times and it'll start smoking eventually....It's not DP, guys. It's only BP/EP/FP...

 

Black Washington? Not hard, and it does NOT require a death, either -

 

 

 

Just so you guys understand, ALL the videos I am showing you are on PC FORMAT OF VICE CITY!!!!! So I honestly don't know what you guys are saying...

 

 

Also, he wouldn't be getting ALL Special vehicles....Considering nobody has mentioned the BP/EP/FP Squalo, or the EP/FP Squalo -

 

There is 10 proof vehicles in VC, and about 15-20 EC vehicles...

Edited October 1, 2014 by Militia

[HeroBrineR007 524]

Yeah but there's no reason to get the squalo.

You have to push it for hours to your safehouse.

I wanted to get it but there's not much space for another vehicle cause often my gsrages eat them...

[Harerama Chakraborty 92]

And some more hours for pushing it to the water.

[Lethal Vaccine 7,177]

There is surely enough space as you can have over 30-40 vehicles in VC. Just like fnxrak and jam8tone who have 65 to 75 special vehicles in SA....Anything is possible as garages have what is called an "absolute capacity." No matter how many vehicles that are "supposed" to fit, you can always fit more...

 

Hours?

 

The video is 4 minutes long...So it took less than 5 minutes to get it from the mission and into a garage! It's still a proof vehicle to collect is all I am saying. Watch 4emp2008's special vehicle collection video for Vice City. It's broken up into a few videos, he shows that he collected EVERY vehicle in the entire game that is known and also demonstrates their properties...

 

It's the same issue with the EC Blue Maverick. It took me at least 10-15 minutes to get it into the Hyman Condo's Garage. It'll probably take roughly the same time to get it out of the garage and hopefully without damaging it to much........It's no different than obtaining the BP/EP/FP Squalo which easily is pushed on the ground and slides very nicely without much trouble...

 

Also, I will add that on PC, you CAN get the BP/EP/FP Sabre Turbo, but it must be blown up on PC ONLY, not PS2. If you don't believe me, there is some videos on Youtube about it as well...

Edited October 2, 2014 by Militia

[blaze 13,517]

As someone who spent a solid 4 hours trying to get it and finally managed to acquire it at 6:54AM this morning I figured I'd share my little insight for those who want to try to get it or those who haven't been successful.

 

1. Make sure the Ocean Heights garage is empty. By a stroke of luck I managed to blow both up on the first attempt of trying to get it, so I pushed the wreck down to the garage and remember the Spand Express was still inside. Got out of the car to get the Spand Express out and the PCJ wreck disappeared: I'm not sure if it's directly related but had the garage been empty I would have got it alot earlier.

 

2. Right when the mission completed sign comes up, you'll get a phone call from Lance; don't answer that as it is one of the most bullsh*t drawn out phonecalls of Lance whining in the game and will reduce the amount of time you have to get the wreck to the garage.

 

3. Make sure you have full health and armor! There's 5 guards; when you kill them make sure you kill both who guard the door. I made the mistake of leaving one of those guards and he did not move from there so I had to start again. The best way to do it in my opinion is; run up the stairs in the alleyway and basically spray at the two guards at the door and then the two next to the car, and thankfully due to Vice City's terrible AI system the final guard will run into the wall below you. At that point you may have one wanted star so run up the alley and grab the bribe. After this I would run out into the street to the building to the left of DBP Security, and then go diagonally across the street towards the tank; this ensured that the last guard would follow me and not get caught up in the alleyway. Ideally you want him to run inbetween the wall and the lampost so he is directly in the tanks trajectory.

 

4. Make sure the turret is spun around, I f*cked up by not spinning it around and not getting enough speed to bail out in time. You should be able to get 4 shots from it at whichpoint you should bail.

 

5. Make sure that the tank blows up BOTH PCJ's (thanks to Militia for informing me of that); otherwise it simply wont work/make it BP/FP/EP; I blew up one and sniped the guy who got away then pushed the wreck to the garage; no BP/FP/EP.

 

6. As for pushing the wreck, I used the Hermes since it was the closest vehicle but it worked quite well. I find vehicles such as the Hermes work better; lighter vehicles (such as the Banshee and Admiral) tend to drive over the wreck easily and get stuck on it, but with the Hermes I got it down to the garage in about four minutes. It was easiest when the PCJ was horizontal along the front of the vehicle as it would just roll over and over and keep going but the wreck is extremely volatile and will bounce everywhere. Another technique I found was if there's a long, straight wall you can just get the wreck up against it and drive straight down against the wall and it should keep the PCJ in place; be careful doing that though as there's alot of alleyways and you don't want to spend time getting it out.

 

Also, if you get a terrible color on the PCJ (I got the beige one) you can respray it and it'll keep the proofings; I made mine cherry red

[HeroBrineR007 524]

Took me around 15 minutes. It was easy.

 

Btw, wrecks aren't timed to dissapear. Just keep looking at them. I went afk for 50 minutes and i forgot to pause my game, the wreck was still there. Just push it as quick as possible inside when you get near the garage

[blaze 13,517]

I kept f*cking up consistently haha but hey I just started collecting I'm allowed to make mistakes

 

It was strange, the wreck was literally outside the garage and I got out to move the Spand Express and as soon as I did that it disappeared .

Edited December 17, 2014 by blazeGTAS

[HeroBrineR007 524]

Keep looking at the wreck.