burger_mike 3,295 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 4 hours ago, universetwisters said: I mean keep in mind they were also working on LCS and VCS too well that was rockstar leeds, dont imagine ALOT of work had to go into those games. Link to post Share on other sites
universetwisters 34,515 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Equatecurl said: well that was rockstar leeds, dont imagine ALOT of work had to go into those games. But still I wouldn’t doubt that the main boys at rockstar would stick around to have some kind of control over it. It’s not like they would give Leeds the keys to the kingdom and say “do whatever you want”. Curiously enough, I like to think that VCS was rockstars testing grounds for a protagonist who you’re supposed to feel for, kinda like Niko. Vic’s story and motivations for doing crime things was pretty different to the rest of the protagonists before him and not too unlike Niko’s after him. KarimNTerr, DownInThePMs, Legomanarthur and 5 others 8 Link to post Share on other sites
DOUGL4S1 5,826 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 8 hours ago, universetwisters said: Curiously enough, I like to think that VCS was rockstars testing grounds for a protagonist who you’re supposed to feel for, kinda like Niko. Vic’s story and motivations for doing crime things was pretty different to the rest of the protagonists before him and not too unlike Niko’s after him. Maybe VCS and GTA IV were written very close together, so Dan Houser was in the "state of mind" to write a more serious, down-to-earth story where you care about the protagonist, so he could write for GTA IV. VCS was only released 2 years earlier because it was a simpler game in an engine that Rockstar has used for years. Liberty-TG, universetwisters, burger_mike and 6 others 9 Link to post Share on other sites
cctcat70 48 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Sorry for off-topic question but when do you think development of GTA:SA started? Link to post Share on other sites
Duhillestpunk 552 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 8 hours ago, cctcat70 said: Sorry for off-topic question but when do you think development of GTA:SA started? According to the (fantastic) book. Jacked: The Outlaw Story of Grand Theft Auto, it’s development or talks about it started literally after Vice City’s release NightmanCometh96, Ivan1997GTA, D.VA and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites
PowerGamingU 21 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 On 10/2/2019 at 2:31 AM, Equatecurl said: Crazy, was RAGE a factor back then? I think at the time, they where using the Renderware engine, but it was similar to Bully and Manhunt. Link to post Share on other sites
universetwisters 34,515 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Found this comment on this video about unused wasted music. Very interesting, yet as usual, should be taken with a grain of salt. It doesn't seem too impossible though, seeing as how V had ambient music during gameplay. mads1153, UltraGizmo64, Spy Fox and 15 others 18 Link to post Share on other sites
Wghost17 1 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Anybody here knows where can I find The Dead Fish - Shallowlead (2007) ? According to wiki it is one of those cut beta tracks for GTA IV. I can't find it on the internet. Link to post Share on other sites
D T 3,363 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 On 10/23/2019 at 2:03 AM, universetwisters said: Found this comment on this video about unused wasted music. Very interesting, yet as usual, should be taken with a grain of salt. It doesn't seem too impossible though, seeing as how V had ambient music during gameplay. Yo somebody mod that sh*t in. That actually sounds pretty awesome. burger_mike and Jago 2 Link to post Share on other sites
universetwisters 34,515 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Wghost17 said: Anybody here knows where can I find The Dead Fish - Shallowlead (2007) ? According to wiki it is one of those cut beta tracks for GTA IV. I can't find it on the internet. Check soulseek or one of those programs Link to post Share on other sites
Wghost17 1 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 On 10/29/2019 at 3:59 AM, universetwisters said: Check soulseek or one of those programs Nope. Still can't find it. Strangely this is the only IV beta song I couldn't find anywhere. I have only seen it on Myspace but I guess it's one of those deleted songs. It won't play if you click it. Still there must be some players who downloaded it when it was avaliable. Link to post Share on other sites
universetwisters 34,515 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Wghost17 said: Nope. Still can't find it. Strangely this is the only IV beta song I couldn't find anywhere. I have only seen it on Myspace but I guess it's one of those deleted songs. It won't play if you click it. Still there must be some players who downloaded it when it was avaliable. You could probably ask on Reddit then since there's few searches going on for mysterious songs with no origin like here Link to post Share on other sites
♡mercy♡ 34 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Someone have posted the Dead Fish song on yt before it got deleted. At first I thought it was the brazilian band with the same name but soon i realized it wasn't. I have the song but i don't know if i can post an link to download it here Link to post Share on other sites
PowerGamingU 21 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 20 hours ago, ♡mercy♡ said: Someone have posted the Dead Fish song on yt before it got deleted. At first I thought it was the brazilian band with the same name but soon i realized it wasn't. I have the song but i don't know if i can post an link to download it here Can you try Google Drive or Media Fire? Dobble post whoops! https://imgur.com/dTThPVj Is this a beta version of LC or not? If you have no clue then I don't blame you. Link to post Share on other sites
Motka 134 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Attempted to replace The Journey's logo with the early one. Leaves a lot to be desired since the pause menu image with the early logos is kind of low-res. BrownieBear, Reizov, D.VA and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites
PowerGamingU 21 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 10 hours ago, Motka said: Attempted to replace The Journey's logo with the early one. Leaves a lot to be desired since the pause menu image with the early logos is kind of low-res. Did you try to replace San Juan Sounds logo with the 2007 one? Link to post Share on other sites
Motka 134 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 44 minutes ago, PowerGamingU said: Did you try to replace San Juan Sounds logo with the 2007 one? Nah. I only replaced The Journey's since I usually listen to that station. I can try if you like. Link to post Share on other sites
Motka 134 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) On 11/14/2019 at 8:24 PM, PowerGamingU said: Did you try to replace San Juan Sounds logo with the 2007 one? It looks like absolute ass. 1. The quality of it looks laughable next to the other logos 2. I tried to make some adjustments to it like color adjusting to make it match the other ones but it looked even worse. If someone could link me to the source where @cctcat70 found those pause menu pictures then I may be able to do something with it. EDIT: Turns out @Kalvin already did a fantastic remake of The Journey's early logo 3 years ago. Whoops. Edited November 17, 2019 by Motka D.VA and Kalvin 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ApolloThunder 436 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 (edited) Not really beta related but something interesting i found is that Rockstar reused textures from gta 4 in gta chinatown wars SOURCE: https://web.archive.org/web/20150220021456/http://www.pingpunger.com/ Edited December 26, 2019 by ApolloThunder D.VA, universetwisters, cctcat70 and 3 others 6 Link to post Share on other sites
rollschuh2282 8,158 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 hold up...i thought the chars were just drawn in those scenes!. they were modelled!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Duhillestpunk 552 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 On 12/26/2019 at 12:54 PM, ApolloThunder said: Not really beta related but something interesting i found is that Rockstar reused textures from gta 4 in gta chinatown wars SOURCE: https://web.archive.org/web/20150220021456/http://www.pingpunger.com/ That’s so cool. They also reused the Russian Shop storefront in Broker. Oddly enough it’s only viewable In the PSP version. Liberty-TG and ApolloThunder 2 Link to post Share on other sites
SgtQ 10 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) On 10/23/2019 at 5:03 AM, universetwisters said: Found this comment on this video about unused wasted music. Very interesting, yet as usual, should be taken with a grain of salt. It doesn't seem too impossible though, seeing as how V had ambient music during gameplay. Edit (gave out way too much info): Pretty much right. Not sure if lucky guess but the music just didn't fit so it was axed in like RC2. :) Without getting in to grave detail... If you have some burning questions related to GTA IV, feel free to PM me in a private setting. Edited January 2, 2020 by SgtQ billiejoearmstrong8, B Dawg and D.VA 3 Link to post Share on other sites
SgtQ 10 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 10/9/2019 at 7:36 AM, PowerGamingU said: I think at the time, they where using the Renderware engine, but it was similar to Bully and Manhunt. Yup. Link to post Share on other sites
PowerGamingU 21 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 On 10/28/2019 at 7:40 PM, Wghost17 said: Anybody here knows where can I find The Dead Fish - Shallowlead (2007) ? According to wiki it is one of those cut beta tracks for GTA IV. I can't find it on the internet. https://sonichits.com/video/The_Dead_Fish/Shallowlead Link to post Share on other sites
ApolloThunder 436 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) I found this on a portfolio of a former Rockstar employee,btw this is taken from a book called "the art of rockstar games' SOURCE: https://cargocollective.com/iamdavidsantana/Grand-Theft-Auto-Design Edited January 16, 2020 by ApolloThunder BlackScout, D.VA, D T and 5 others 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ROCKSTAR MANIC 2,049 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 @ApolloThunder Thats artwork from the special edition of IV. BlackScout and Spy Fox 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Ash_735 17,438 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) Not quite GTA IV but TLAD, a recent finding shows an earlier background colour used for the loading screens in TLAD, in the final they opted for the basic faded white backgrounds which were the same as the PC version of GTA IV, leaving TBOGT being the odd one out which changes the background on the loading screens. Now for those with a very keen eye you might be thinking that you've seen those colours before, and yes you would be right, here's the game backing image on the Xbox 360 version of EFLC: Edited January 20, 2020 by Ash_735 Kalvin, kubon352, NightmanCometh96 and 13 others 16 Link to post Share on other sites
kubon352 786 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 ... and as you can see above, Johnny's TLMC patch above his hip could be black in beta, as it is actually white in the final game. Link to post Share on other sites
universetwisters 34,515 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Found this going through police scanner files; would it have been possible to have robbed these places in multiplayer? Or were these used during Mafiya work Ivan1997GTA 1 Link to post Share on other sites
B Dawg 10,407 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 ^ Can't rob those places in Multiplayer. Link to post Share on other sites
