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henry_™

Grand Theft Auto IV Beta Hunt

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DOUGL4S1

 

Sure, I'll give the guy the benefit of doubt. Just don't be the guy back in page 47 posting minute-long modded game's footage and passing it as real.

 

Also, if this is by end 2007, it's by the time the

was recorded. There may be some significant differences, like mission objectives and visual stuff, but don't expect to be driving any cut vehicles.

 

Also, now that you've commited to this, play the entire game and record any interesting stuff you notice compared to the final.

If it is playable at all :p Most devkit leaks aren't really playable because they need specific things to run, but its files are definitely readable.

 

Which would already be a very good breakthrough. Rockstar is lazy enough to clean their files by the game's release, imagine on a dev. version. The ammount of flies left empty or unused in GTA IV is very very high already. And as rollschuh2282 said, we may be able to modify the PC version with this version's scripts and files to have access to possibly cut or changed features. Then again, assuming this is real or possible.

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CarsonGT

Yeah, i lurk around on those sites. That's where i know most of my people from/got most of my racing and other builds from.

I was planning on doing that, Elgato still works so....

 

Again i don't know all details yet. All i really know for now is:

It's either late 2007 or early 2008 (i'm guessing Novemeber or December of 2007)

It's a PS3 build

He couldn't find a debug menu

 

Reason why he doesen't remember much is that he only played it once or twice a long time ago. Plus take into the account he has 200 other builds of games (not counting pre-release art, console firmware and source code) He left the collecting scene a while ago and now is giving away his stuff.

 

I don't know how long it will take as the person i'm getting it from is under certain circumstances and is kind of busy, but i reckon it won't take more than a month for my friend to get the HDD (it won't get sent through mail, they will both actually meet up)

 

I also don't know for sure if it's an devkit leak, or a beta disc.

 

I will do both an in-depth video on it/video's you request.

I'll let you all know when i have more details on it/actually get it. When i recieve it, request stuff you want me to show from the build and i'll deliver. Wether it be files/actual gameplay.

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_CP_

Smells like C&D to me.

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Darealbandicoot

Kinda weird that it's a ps3 build as almost all the journalists played on xbox 360 builds as it was the lead platform but hey nice finds! More than likely this build will have the fingerless gloves and maybe the diffrent coloured health bar as seen in some screenshots but I guess we will have to wait and see.

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sebbellic01

Yeah, i lurk around on those sites. That's where i know most of my people from/got most of my racing and other builds from.

I was planning on doing that, Elgato still works so....

 

Again i don't know all details yet. All i really know for now is:

It's either late 2007 or early 2008 (i'm guessing Novemeber or December of 2007)

It's a PS3 build

He couldn't find a debug menu

 

Reason why he doesen't remember much is that he only played it once or twice a long time ago. Plus take into the account he has 200 other builds of games (not counting pre-release art, console firmware and source code) He left the collecting scene a while ago and now is giving away his stuff.

 

I don't know how long it will take as the person i'm getting it from is under certain circumstances and is kind of busy, but i reckon it won't take more than a month for my friend to get the HDD (it won't get sent through mail, they will both actually meet up)

 

I also don't know for sure if it's an devkit leak, or a beta disc.

 

I will do both an in-depth video on it/video's you request.

I'll let you all know when i have more details on it/actually get it. When i recieve it, request stuff you want me to show from the build and i'll deliver. Wether it be files/actual gameplay.

If this isn't bullsh*t, keep this down so you don't get a cease and desist from Rockstar. I suggest you remove all the content from your comments so they don't discover anything, if they haven't already.

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DOUGL4S1

If this isn't bullsh*t, keep this down so you don't get a cease and desist from Rockstar. I suggest you remove all the content from your comments so they don't discover anything, if they haven't already.

That's what I said last page. I can already see the anonymous users seeing this page...

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Ash_735

Why would he get a C&D? He'd get a Takedown Notice at most, but he's doing nothing that warrants a C&D.

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DOUGL4S1

Why would he get a C&D? He'd get a Takedown Notice at most, but he's doing nothing that warrants a C&D.

The only way I see how is if he copies the Beta files into a final PC game as a mod.

 

And I'd love to see if the swingset glitch happens in the Beta version, as if it was a dev. oversight or some last-minute change that caused it.

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sebbellic01

Why would he get a C&D? He'd get a Takedown Notice at most, but he's doing nothing that warrants a C&D.

This is Rockstar we are talking about. They made an ex-employee remove some early screenshots of GTA IV and V from his portfolio. And they even blocked the Wayback Machine (an internet archive) from keeping a copy of the screenshots. You think that they aren't going to stop an unfinished version of GTA 4 from leaking to the public?

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CarsonGT

Let's just wait and see what Rockstar is willing to do... if it does get taken down then i really can't do anything about it.

 

But again, we'll see. And a C&D is a bit too extreme lol

 

Also i don't think this build will get uploaded fully because of other reasons (it will get me in even more trouble, NDA)

Hope you all understand that. But i really don't know at this stage on what i'm planning on doing with the build (other than gameplay footage, showing stuff in files etc) I probaly can do a walkthrough.

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Pastry

 

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Sam Lake

 

If this isn't bullsh*t, keep this down so you don't get a cease and desist from Rockstar. I suggest you remove all the content from your comments so they don't discover anything, if they haven't already.

That's what I said last page. I can already see the anonymous users seeing this page...

 

til i work for R*

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DOUGL4S1

>implying that ticking the anonymous option when you log in immediately means you're with Rockstar

Not really, but I doubt Rockstar employees that are here just to delete stuff have an account, and I kinda mistook anonymous users with guests, so my bad with that.

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Ash_735

Also i don't think this build will get uploaded fully because of other reasons (it will get me in even more trouble, NDA)

Ahh I see, backing out already, so you've announced this BEFORE getting your hands on it, knowing that it'll prevent you from uploading the material, but don't worry, we can go to your YouTube channel and watch it right? Brilliant.
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CarsonGT

Uploading as in the actual build files? I ofcourse plan to do the video's and everything. I had never said i would make the build a public download. I can't back out from something i never stated i would do.

 

You expect everyone to just release anything valueable and rare they have to the public like that?

Sorry, but come on...

 

Again if somebody wants me to look through something in the files, i'll be happy to do that. I'll do anything really footage/screenshot/file related. I won't upload the entire build. I even think sharing some files are fine but not the entire thing.

 

Actually, who knows. I might make this thing public sometime, not for now.

 

Also, move on with this thread if possible.

I apologize for announcing it this early (stupid i know)

I again will update you all when i recieve it. Sorry for any inconvinience. You all got my word.

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BlackScout

Just post the video and let's see what happens...

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lol232

Yes, I CAN expect you to do that. I do that all the time, I get some extremely rare bootlegs of gigs of my favorite bands, I upload it.

Only time I don't give stuff out is if I get an album early so that I don't damage a band's sales before the album is out (looking at you, DragonForce's Reaching Into Infinity)

 

If I was in your shoes, I would DEFINITELY release it all, because I sure as sh*t don't have time or energy to dig through all that sh*t alone.

It can get you in trouble? Not really, there's plenty of ways to release stuff publicly without being traced.

 

But hell, I can somehow still understand you since I was in your shoes before.

Once you prove that it's indeed a legit beta, what would it take for you to release it?

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CarsonGT

Well i don't really know what it would take, i mean, i do but i don't really feel like mentioning them as i'll probaly get crap for it.

 

I think (just as BlackScout said) it's just best to wait for the video's and screens to come out and then ask more questions. Not trying to be rude at all or avoiding anything but i don't want this thread getting "heated" if that makes sense?

 

Again you all got my word on that it's a real build and that i will show footage/files/screens and more. I understand some if not most of you are skeptical. That's fine. We'll all see when footage/screens come out.

Also, don't let my (kinda) off-topic posts discourage you from posting any more findings.

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Ash_735

Yeah, we expect you to upload some stuff, at the very least pass it on to the guys of OpenIV so they can check it out, verify the build and scrub any attached information that might lead back to where you got this from.

 

Mentality wise I don't get this trend of people finding rare things and then NOT sharing it with fellow fans , especially when the content can be copied digitally. I've uploaded content from a band I like because I spent years tracking down B-Sides and importing bonus discs that are long since unavailable.

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CarsonGT

Yeah, we expect you to upload some stuff, at the very least pass it on to the guys of OpenIV so they can check it out, verify the build and scrub any attached information that might lead back to where you got this from.

 

Mentality wise I don't get this trend of people finding rare things and then NOT sharing it with fellow fans , especially when the content can be copied digitally. I've uploaded content from a band I like because I spent years tracking down B-Sides and importing bonus discs that are long since unavailable.

I might look into doing that, actually.

I completely understand where you're coming from, although theres alot of other private (altho legal but still private) stuff i rather not go into here that are an factor to me not making it public. But again a few files seems fine to me.

 

Also, i'm not really part of the "im not releasing it because im the only one that has it" mentality. (Especially since i'm not the only person that will recieve it) There are some other factors. Legal issues mostly don't bother me when it comes to stuff like Need For Speed or Burnout with EA, but GTA and Rockstar is very different from EA...

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DOUGL4S1

Yeah, we expect you to upload some stuff, at the very least pass it on to the guys of OpenIV so they can check it out, verify the build and scrub any attached information that might lead back to where you got this from.

 

Mentality wise I don't get this trend of people finding rare things and then NOT sharing it with fellow fans , especially when the content can be copied digitally. I've uploaded content from a band I like because I spent years tracking down B-Sides and importing bonus discs that are long since unavailable.

It depends on that it is: Most dev. builds don't have lots of things compressed and encrypted, if anything at all, so if they need to close the game and make a minor change, they can. As for early builds for journalists and stuff, I'm not so sure.

 

And this trend probably comes because people who have early access to stuff probably love their job too much to just leak everything to make a few fans happy.

 

And what I don't understand is Rockstar's urge to delete any Beta leaks, even if they are leaked 7 YEARS after the game's release (like Josimar's portfolio). I mean, what the hell R*, that's way in the past.

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CarsonGT

 

Yeah, we expect you to upload some stuff, at the very least pass it on to the guys of OpenIV so they can check it out, verify the build and scrub any attached information that might lead back to where you got this from.

 

Mentality wise I don't get this trend of people finding rare things and then NOT sharing it with fellow fans , especially when the content can be copied digitally. I've uploaded content from a band I like because I spent years tracking down B-Sides and importing bonus discs that are long since unavailable.

It depends on that it is: Most dev. builds don't have lots of things compressed and encrypted, if anything at all, so if they need to close the game and make a minor change, they can. As for early builds for journalists and stuff, I'm not so sure.

 

And this trend probably comes because people who have early access to stuff probably love their job too much to just leak everything to make a few fans happy.

 

And what I don't understand is Rockstar's urge to delete any Beta leaks, even if they are leaked 7 YEARS after the game's release (like Josimar's portfolio). I mean, what the hell R*, that's way in the past.

 

Is November/December 2007 even considered early? I always thought that November 07 to April 08 was bug testing and fixing/improving on smaller features of the game

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DOUGL4S1

 

It depends on that it is: Most dev. builds don't have lots of things compressed and encrypted, if anything at all, so if they need to close the game and make a minor change, they can. As for early builds for journalists and stuff, I'm not so sure.

 

And this trend probably comes because people who have early access to stuff probably love their job too much to just leak everything to make a few fans happy.

 

And what I don't understand is Rockstar's urge to delete any Beta leaks, even if they are leaked 7 YEARS after the game's release (like Josimar's portfolio). I mean, what the hell R*, that's way in the past.

Is November/December 2007 even considered early? I always thought that November 07 to April 08 was bug testing and fixing/improving on smaller features of the game

 

I say early for everything before release. I'ts probably wrong, but compared to when the game was released, it is early.

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lol232

Seeing as IV was supposed to be released in October 2007 - I can't say I expect too much, but then again, they probably didn't delete a bunch of their old stuff by then.

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Marty892

Seeing as IV was supposed to be released in October 2007 - I can't say I expect too much, but then again, they probably didn't delete a bunch of their old stuff by then.

there might be some interesting dev stuff too, like maybe build logs or some leftover files meant to be deleted later

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Davao

Does anyone know if Barber shops were meant to be in GTA 4? Because they were in SA and for some reason it isn't there in IV.

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DOUGL4S1

Does anyone know if Barber shops were meant to be in GTA 4? Because they were in SA and for some reason it isn't there in IV.

Go back to page 1.

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HeySlickThatsMe

i'll say Bullsh*t , waiting for proof then ill change my mind

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sebbellic01

This video was removed for violating YouTube's Terms of Service. Weird.

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KENNYOUT3

Sorry for the double post, but I feel that these should be given their own post;

 

 

 

3354_gtaiv_broker_brownstone.jpg

 

Remember how the previews said you could climb telegraph poles, well please direct your attention to the one presented in this image. You can clearly see the pegs attached to the sides of this one. Additionally, you can see the Police Cruiser in its beta form with a car number on the boot/trunk lid rather than the final versions' LCPD text. Both the PC and Taxi lack antennae.

 

4152_gtaiv_niko_arrested.jpg

 

I can't say that these officers remained in the final version.

 

4095_gta4_screenshot.jpg

 

Again, these officers are not present in the final version of the game.

 

 

 

Cheers.

ey yo uhhhhhhhh. look to the far left....

 

on the first image....

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