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Grand Theft Auto IV Beta Hunt

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@Wildbrick142 Another example is the cut S&F mission involving Brucie, where they call it Facebook instead of Lifeinvader.

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t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m

The final shot uses some graphics mods, but is otherwise the same game.

 

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GrindingOnDatNRG

In the handling.dat file does anyone know what those extra ones are at the bottom? I don't have access to it right now but if I recall there are lines for go kart, quad, bmx and other things. I've always wondered what these where, anyone know?

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henry_™

I cannot remember exact source, but someone from Rockstar told in interview that quite large amount of land was cut from the game when it was around 60% complete. It was landmass around Bohan region I guess.

I would be glad if someone can correct me or provide additional info about that.

 

This could explain why Bohan is so small. This also gets me really angry, me being someone who loves Open world games and a die-hard fan for large worlds. Thanks for mentioning this.

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matajuegos01

In the handling.dat file does anyone know what those extra ones are at the bottom? I don't have access to it right now but if I recall there are lines for go kart, quad, bmx and other things. I've always wondered what these where, anyone know?

i think there was one for a car with 3 wheels and another for a truck that looks like the stockade

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GrindingOnDatNRG

I found it,

; 0 standard car
; 1 low car
; 2 truck
; 3 std bike
; 4 sport bike
; 5 vespa bike
; 6 harley bike
; 7 dirt bike
; 8 wayfarer bike
; 9 bmx bike
; 10 mtb bike
; 11 choppa bike
; 12 quad bike
; 13 van
; 14 rustler
; 15 coach
; 16 bus
; 17 dozer
; 18 kart
; 19 convertible
; 20 mtruck
; 21 train carriage
; 22 std high
; 23 hover
; 24 tank
; 25 bf inj
; 26 lear
; 27 harrier
; 28 std but upright
; 29 nevada

 

Could this be files for V in IV's data?? Considering the vehicles listed.Again, this is from GTA IV's default handling.dat file.

Edited by GrindingOnDatNRG

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Tycek

Judging by the names like Rustler and Nevada these are some left overs from SA.

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t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m

Here's a good video that puts some scenes from the in-game TV in comparison to the final game.(Not mine)

 

I sort of miss the "Bloom" effect and shaders that the pre-release version used.

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PerfectBlade

HsjZj59.png?1

 

Beta Dilletante, also great view of the car :D

 

 

bypK0fP.png?1 Beta Emperor with no textures inside.

 

 

Zd1ZOsW.png

Beta infernus with white pillars (or whatever is called sorry for my bad english)

 

 

m76ZOtj.png?1

Again untextured interior, i think it's from emperor again.

 

mjFXZYV.png?1

These cars are early versions of the final ones....also notice that there is no texture inside the cars.

 

That's all i find for now. :)

I will post more later.

Edited by Perfect Blade xD

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PerfectBlade

Beta Anihillator without those yellow stripes.

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Maybe in the beta firefighters would

Come and try to take out the fire from Roman's Apartment in the mission Roman's Sorrow?

 

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Edited by Perfect Blade xD

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Equatecurl

Some vague evidence of climbable telephone poles:

 

This telephone pole is located here:

(where the player arrow is, ignore the Pb)

lH0ZDQF.jpg?1

 

As you can see the "rungs" go all the way to the bottom of the pole unlike every other pole, (I haven't actually bothered to look at every single one, this was a spontaneous find, but I think this is the only one)

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Most, if not all other poles:

6CNZHf2.jpg?1

 

The interesting thing is that climbing this pole would lead to a billboard:

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That is otherwise unreachable as you can see:

nPuaNqe.jpg?1?9164

 

 

My guess is that these telephone poles were inspired by Assassin's Creed and its "viewpoints". They were just a way to get a nice view of the beautiful city Rockstar created and didn't have any special purpose to them. Or maybe to be used by creative people in missions, who knows :p

 

 

Oh sh*t, at first I thought they would just be little useless things to climb for fun or it was just a tech demo. Now I see this, that would have been sick.

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LeakyLine

 

 

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Edited by GTAmaster09

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LeakyLine

I cannot remember exact source, but someone from Rockstar told in interview that quite large amount of land was cut from the game when it was around 60% complete. It was landmass around Bohan region I guess.

I would be glad if someone can correct me or provide additional info about that.

TBH I can believe this, the NE area of Bohan looks very unfinished. In my opinion, i'm thinking the dilapidated dock area could have been a bridge/tunnel/road beginning. It just looks like a cover up to me.

Edited by GTAmaster09

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Xav Curbelo

I think Bohan's land was cut due to the fact that very few missions take place here, it becomes irrelevant after the fall of Elizabeta.

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LeakyLine

I think Bohan's land was cut due to the fact that very few missions take place here, it becomes irrelevant after the fall of Elizabeta.

But with a rural/country area near it, it would have more purpose, no?

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Niko Montana

This is what I know:

I wouldn't class this as 'cut' but when developers started to conceptualize the map, Liberty City was much bigger, and the game would have featured three cities. (Like SA). Those may have been The Carraways, and maybe Carcer City. There is also a lot of SA leftovers in the game files. (Somebody found the police cars for Los Santos , Las Venturas & San Fierro). Hydra & a new jet were cut,along with the Dodo. As for weapons, the Revolver , Minigun , Flamethrower , MP5 & the M70 were cut. Most of the new bikes in TLAD were cut. (Explaining why Johnny & Jason have different bikes in IV). The Rhino was taken out. In the third trailer, there is a scene where Niko , Roman & some other guys are escaping police in a boat. Pest Control was originally a choices mission, you could either kill Ray or Phil, but in the final you can only kill Ray. Phil could originally be taken on friend activities (possibly something to do with BETA Pest Control).

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BMWSauberF1.08

Nah,i don't think that liberty was going to feature three cities or the countryside since in the previous era liberty city was kinda based on new york.

Rockstar just used some sa files to test some mechanics of the game or they were too lazy to removed them.

Edited by Aztecas_5

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henry_™

Hey guys Last night I went through the "CNT.bik" and "Weazel.bik" and took pictures of everything I found that isn't already in this thread. Here is what I found:

 

UADMGIn.png

 

is a Beta version of the "Barreta" Shotgun

 

MQk74u8.png

In this shot you can see rockstar's logo and 4 (probably) unreadable lines of text around it as this was a placeholder for the final billboard signs.

 

tdfGEYJ.png

I don't recall the bridge being there

 

iEYuE6W.png

This Police officer was cut from the final game

 

vjdkou8.pngBeta Explosion effect

 

e7nKFpv.pngOrginally I though this was Mr.Faustin's house but if you clip inside there using airbreak you fall through the floor, so could this be a cut safehouse or was Mr.Faustin's house going to be a safehouse?

 

Xmggr6f.pngBeta fire effect

 

joB1BoU.png

Beta Hospital Interior

 

INlxQfD.pngThe shaders look different here as well

 

6icyM73.png

Look at all the missing buildings!

 

bKJiBwP.pngi8y0mbY.png

In both of these shots, you can see the beta cellphone. Also, in the top image notice Niko has a buzz cut. (This can be found in the game's code)

 

1AFUASL.pngBeta Playboy's loft

 

Mbvc300.pngBeta roadblock (The striped blocks can actually be found in the game's code)

 

UuUz8o3.png

Sunset looks way different and the final dilettante looks different.

 

VKej200.pngActual Vegetation! (Rockstar why did you remove this!?!?!)

 

X5xHcyI.pngLook at the sky you can actually see stars

 

Well I hope you all enjoyed my finds and happy hunting! :D

Edited by henry_™

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markusizr

Amazing

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t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m

AlHK6Op.png

 

Has anyone been able to find this location in the game? I found a similar street, but if it's the same then the layout is vastly different to the final build. It looks like Happiness Island is in the background.

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gunziness

It looks like City Hall to me (in its very beta stage).

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Jeansowaty

Suffolk/City Hall area most likely. I recall seeing the church here.

Edited by Jeansowaty

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LeakyLine

Hey guys Last night I went through the "CNT.bik" and "Weazel.bik" and took pictures of everything I found that isn't already in this thread. Here is what I found:

 

UADMGIn.png

 

is a Beta version of the "Barreta" Shotgun

 

MQk74u8.png

In this shot you can see rockstar's logo and 4 (probably) unreadable lines of text around it as this was a placeholder for the final billboard signs.

 

tdfGEYJ.png

I don't recall the bridge being there

 

iEYuE6W.png

This Police officer was cut from the final game

 

vjdkou8.pngBeta Explosion effect

 

e7nKFpv.pngOrginally I though this was Mr.Faustin's house but if you clip inside there using airbreak you fall through the floor, so could this be a cut safehouse or was Mr.Faustin's house going to be a safehouse?

 

Xmggr6f.pngBeta fire effect

 

joB1BoU.png

Beta Hospital Interior

 

INlxQfD.pngThe shaders look different here as well

 

6icyM73.png

Look at all the missing buildings!

 

bKJiBwP.pngi8y0mbY.png

In both of these shots, you can see the beta cellphone. Also, in the top image notice Niko has a buzz cut. (This can be found in the game's code)

 

1AFUASL.pngBeta Playboy's loft

 

Mbvc300.pngBeta roadblock (The striped blocks can actually be found in the game's code)

 

UuUz8o3.png

Sunset looks way different and the final dilettante looks different.

 

VKej200.pngActual Vegetation! (Rockstar why did you remove this!?!?!)

 

X5xHcyI.pngLook at the sky you can actually see stars

 

Well I hope you all enjoyed my finds and happy hunting! :D

Sorry to quote it all, but those striped blockades are in the game. There's one near the Burger Shot near the Homebrew Cafe

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Equatecurl

^Yep, I thought the gpu or something in my ps3 was dying when I saw it. It's pretty weird. Doesn't really fit in.

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LeakyLine

^Yep, I thought the gpu or something in my ps3 was dying when I saw it. It's pretty weird. Doesn't really fit in.

I thought my GTA IV was defective xD

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t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m

That daylight sky with the stars in the distance is pretty. Shame that they removed it.

 

On topic, the ruiner had a fender bra.

1StBUdT.png

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henry_™

 

Hey guys Last night I went through the "CNT.bik" and "Weazel.bik" and took pictures of everything I found that isn't already in this thread. Here is what I found:

 

UADMGIn.png

 

is a Beta version of the "Barreta" Shotgun

 

MQk74u8.png

In this shot you can see rockstar's logo and 4 (probably) unreadable lines of text around it as this was a placeholder for the final billboard signs.

 

tdfGEYJ.png

I don't recall the bridge being there

 

iEYuE6W.png

This Police officer was cut from the final game

 

vjdkou8.pngBeta Explosion effect

 

e7nKFpv.pngOrginally I though this was Mr.Faustin's house but if you clip inside there using airbreak you fall through the floor, so could this be a cut safehouse or was Mr.Faustin's house going to be a safehouse?

 

Xmggr6f.pngBeta fire effect

 

joB1BoU.png

Beta Hospital Interior

 

INlxQfD.pngThe shaders look different here as well

 

6icyM73.png

Look at all the missing buildings!

 

bKJiBwP.pngi8y0mbY.png

In both of these shots, you can see the beta cellphone. Also, in the top image notice Niko has a buzz cut. (This can be found in the game's code)

 

1AFUASL.pngBeta Playboy's loft

 

Mbvc300.pngBeta roadblock (The striped blocks can actually be found in the game's code)

 

UuUz8o3.png

Sunset looks way different and the final dilettante looks different.

 

VKej200.pngActual Vegetation! (Rockstar why did you remove this!?!?!)

 

X5xHcyI.pngLook at the sky you can actually see stars

 

Well I hope you all enjoyed my finds and happy hunting! :D

Sorry to quote it all, but those striped blockades are in the game. There's one near the Burger Shot near the Homebrew Cafe

 

 

I knew its in the game but it actually appears? I thought it was just in the code like Niko's buzz cut.

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Kajjy

 

 

tdfGEYJ.png

I don't recall the bridge being there

 

 

 

I found this bridge thing to be pretty interesting, sooo I did a lil' investigating.

 

~Spoiler Tags for your convenience~

 

24bp2ef.jpgThis is the location the screenshot is at, I believe. As you can see, there is no bridge.

 

 

 

 

At the bottom of the hill, I noticed one thing in particular. The bridge lead right to where that weird empty grass slope is.2lxf6zk.jpg It seems that at one point, there would have of been a bridge leading off this hill.

 

 

 

 

As to where the bridge went, I have no clue. My best guess is that it connected the East Borough Bridge to the Broker-Dukes Expressway.2nk01w3.jpgYou can see the Broker-Dukes Expressway from the top of the slope.

 

 

Also of note, there's a lot more detail around in the early screen shot like more trash and the metal platform thingies by the yellow building, but there was less graffiti on the upper walls of the yellow building. The road also seems to have a different road texture.

Edited by Kajjy

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NYC PATROL

Nah,i don't think that liberty was going to feature three cities or the countryside since in the previous era liberty city was kinda based on new york.

Rockstar just used some sa files to test some mechanics of the game or they were too lazy to removed them.

I'm 99% sure I remember R* saying in some interview they originally planned to have a huge map that had countryside/upstate in IV. Wish I could find that article.

 

^ Btw some crazy good finds on this page.

Edited by NYC PATROL

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henry_™

 

Nah,i don't think that liberty was going to feature three cities or the countryside since in the previous era liberty city was kinda based on new york.
Rockstar just used some sa files to test some mechanics of the game or they were too lazy to removed them.

I'm 99% sure I remember R* saying in some interview they originally planned to have a huge map that had countryside/upstate in IV. Wish I could find that article.

 

 

I would die to play a early version of IV with that countryside you speak of.

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