HollandNights 48 Posted October 20, 2014 To me it felt as though they just needed another antagonist for TBOGT that people were already familiar with, and didn't want to add any more new people (After the addition of Evan, Rocco and his Uncle) so Bulgarin was the next best thing... He was pretty much the only person we already hated that Niko hadn't already dispatched! Bulgarin was always supposed to be in GTA TBOGT. Replay Diamonds are a girls Best Friend from GTA IV. Yes, but it didn't imply that he would be Luis' antagonist. And a bumbling idiot of an antagonist for that matter.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrVance 479 Posted October 21, 2014 The only thing that didn`t make sense was a russian gangster having likes for hard rock music lol. Or even less sense watching that fat chimpanzee of Timur playing an electric guitar. It makes as much sense as seeing John Marston driving bugatti veyron instead of riding kentucky sadler horse. Who would have tought that some cranky and impotent middle aged russian mobsters love rock that much. "stick your guitar up your f*cking ass" Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Budweiser Addict 1,765 Posted October 23, 2014 The only thing that didn`t make sense was a russian gangster having likes for hard rock music lol. Or even less sense watching that fat chimpanzee of Timur playing an electric guitar. It makes as much sense as seeing John Marston driving bugatti veyron instead of riding kentucky sadler horse. Who would have tought that some cranky and impotent middle aged russian mobsters love rock that much. "stick your guitar up your f*cking ass" Lol Well Bulgarin was age 50 in 2008, meaning he spent his teens/early twenties when rock music was actually decent/popular. Doesn't matter if his music taste doesn't fit the "big bad boss" stereotype, because really how the f*ck is their simple appearance going to dictate what they listen to? On topic, I've really learned to accept most of the flaws in TBOGT. I can understand somewhat why somebody would treat a business associate differently to somebody whose head they want on a stick (or in Bulgarin's case inside a birthday cake box). Who says that before his and Niko's relationship turned to sh*t he didn't act like that around Niko? The only problem I do have with the story is the fact that Billy's appearance in Chinese Takeout kind of ruins the whole coherency between Liz's roles in IV and TLAD... And even then his appearance was for what? Just to find out something we all assumed anyway? We didn't even get to find out who beat the f*ck out of him while Johnny and Jim were fighting the Chinese. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillBellic 24,237 Posted November 5, 2014 I felt that TBOGT ruined Ray Bulgarin as a serious crime lord. In IV his appearance had a very serious tense tone. Then in TBOGT we find him being this man child who overstays his welcome in his sisters house and playing a guitar. Cheers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
universetwisters 26,898 Posted November 7, 2014 I felt that TBOGT ruined Ray Bulgarin as a serious crime lord. In IV his appearance had a very serious tense tone. Then in TBOGT we find him being this man child who overstays his welcome in his sisters house and playing a guitar. To be fair, Kim Jong-il used to be an avid railfan. But yeah, TBOGT really messed up how a lot of folks were. Yusuf went from a crazy overworked dude from what we heard from Playboy in IV to some fat, rich dolt in TBOGT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fefenc 2,613 Posted November 7, 2014 No one can be a crime lord for 24/7 TBoGT was perfect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebel Yell 1,268 Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) The only problem I do have with the story is the fact that Billy's appearance in Chinese Takeout kind of ruins the whole coherency between Liz's roles in IV and TLAD... And even then his appearance was for what? Just to find out something we all assumed anyway? We didn't even get to find out who beat the f*ck out of him while Johnny and Jim were fighting the Chinese. Oh wait... Didn't Billy crash his bike while making his escape? That's how he got his bruises as far as I know. Edited November 7, 2014 by TheUnholy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Budweiser Addict 1,765 Posted November 7, 2014 The only problem I do have with the story is the fact that Billy's appearance in Chinese Takeout kind of ruins the whole coherency between Liz's roles in IV and TLAD... And even then his appearance was for what? Just to find out something we all assumed anyway? We didn't even get to find out who beat the f*ck out of him while Johnny and Jim were fighting the Chinese. Oh wait... Didn't Billy crash his bike while making his escape? That's how he got his bruises as far as I know.Yes but then the question remains: why did Billy have to run yet Brian stayed where he was the whole time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebel Yell 1,268 Posted November 7, 2014 The only problem I do have with the story is the fact that Billy's appearance in Chinese Takeout kind of ruins the whole coherency between Liz's roles in IV and TLAD... And even then his appearance was for what? Just to find out something we all assumed anyway? We didn't even get to find out who beat the f*ck out of him while Johnny and Jim were fighting the Chinese. Oh wait... Didn't Billy crash his bike while making his escape? That's how he got his bruises as far as I know.Yes but then the question remains: why did Billy have to run yet Brian stayed where he was the whole time? Yeah, I can't say a thing about it. Although This sh*t's Cursed is one of my favourite missions in the whole IV trilogy, that part is senseless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markusizr 71 Posted November 7, 2014 ray was a bandit with rascalov to rob banks. And ray was voiced by Vitali Baganov Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
universetwisters 26,898 Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) ray was a bandit with rascalov to rob banks I doubt they robbed banks. Edited November 7, 2014 by universetwisters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SemideyOne 0 Posted November 15, 2014 I think a lot of you are getting the wrong impression of TBOGT... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iiCriminnaaL 49 155 Posted April 9 (edited) I don't really think it 'ruined' Bulgarin. It just showed us how does Bulgarin act with his friends and partners, and his behavior during his hobby times. And in the other hand, Dimitri is even worse, kind of pussy in front of Faustin in GTA IV. However, still, Bulgarin has a low temper which he tries to hide from people who are close to him. That's why he would seem a bit of childish from time to time. Also, one of things that would be of the most 'ruining' consideration would be the way he threatens Luis after he knew that the latter was involved with the diamond deals; which would be expected, because he has just lose two million dollar worth of diamonds, no wonder he'll be so angry in the mean time. If Luis was an old enemy of him like Niko, then you would see him acting like he did in vanilla IV's story. (still thinking that he would be a more fitting antagonist than Dimitri) Edited May 14 by Kane49 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
