Sorting out the Aircraft weapons once and for all

[elfoam]

I've been thinking about this and finally had a revelation on how to fix the Lazer and Annihilator.

 

As we know the explosive rounds on the jet are a bit ridiculous, unless you have overhead cover a good jet pilot can infinitely spawn kill you before you can even get a round off. He doesn't even need to hit you.

 

So we've talked before about nerfing the cannons and I think we should but they shouldn't be made useless and the jet still needs to be a better weapon than the choppers so here's my idea.

 

Lazer jet.. The cannon should be basically heavy sniper rounds at the current fire rate and a little less range than the sniper. Same damage as the sniper,this should still alow you to mess up players, cars and even tanks so long as you hit them. But my greatest idea is to add an unguided bomb to the Lazer as compensation for losing the explosive rounds. A bomb with a lot of splash damage (more than a missle but difficult to aim). If you tried to drop it directly on some one from close range you would be within minigun range. But dropping bombs from altitude with skill would be kind of awesome for everyone involved.

 

Annihilator, same sniper rounds as above, no other changes.

 

Buzzard, given the same rounds and damage as a foot players minigun, no other changes.

Edited August 31, 2014 by elfoam

[CrysisAverted]

Or explosive rounds purchasable at your local Ammunation

[ScooterEightyTwo]

I think the bomb idea is great, I presume you mean ones like the bombs Trevor uses in Arms Trafficking with the Cuban 800; they release & you guide them to the target manually.

 

...Although I can see that becoming abused by griefers to troll players on the ground while they are in Lazers high in the sky.

[WesternMotorcycleCo.]

Go on passive mode or use a sniper to shoot his engine.

[Der Süden]

I wouldn't even complain if R* unarmed all aircraft. I'm sick n tired of Buzzards and particularly Lazers terrorizing LS.

[OBeef619]

Or just go in passive mode while aircraft is overhead. They will leave within seconds after not being able to kill you.

 

No nerfs needed, use the system R* has provided.

[CheaterMcCheat]

When a Lazer pilot is trying to grief me I stand by my PV and wait for him to get close enough in his dive, then I quickly go into passive mode and they end up blowing up and paying for my PV and get no kill. Use your most expensive PV for this to piss them off. When they fly off all pissed off, exit passive and put some heavy sniper rounds in their jet.

Edited August 31, 2014 by CheaterMcCheat

[CarimboHanky]

When a Lazer pilot is trying to grief me I stand by my PV and wait for him to get close enough in his dive, then I quickly go into passive mode and they end up blowing up and paying for my PV and get no kill. Use your most expensive PV for this to piss them off. When they fly off all pissed off, exit passive and put some heavy sniper rounds in their jet.

i dont know where you have been playing but the lazer have been exempt from insurance/bad sport for months.

 

heck patch 1.16 made insurance/badsport almost a thing of the pass, since the patch dropped i have destroyed more than 100 PVs with stickybombs and paid insurance in only 3 occasions.

 

as for the jet and buzzard they have full exemption so the jokes on you!

[elfoam]

If it's empty you pay.

[rushfox]

Jets are just way over powered. They can easily run from any threat, the explosive cannon kills tanks and anything else in 1 second.

 

They need the guns from BF3 for jets, you could still take out tanks. They just weren't explosive rounds. Also I think miniguns and snipers could use a little buff to damage towards vehicles.

[elfoam]

If I'm getting chased by a jet in my buzzard I like to hide amoung the tall buildings in the city. Providing he stays on radar or it's daylight he can't kill you but killing him is also almost impossible. So it ends a stalemate that I've had go on for 30 minutes or more but at least it gives the guys on the ground a chance to snipe him. Although sometimes they don't realise what you are doing in the buzzard and shoot at you . Sometimes the guy in the jet will make a mistake while trying to get you and crash into a building then I'll parachute down and chase him on foot but they usually leave at that point. Very funny on the mic. How is this buzzard still alive!!? But providing you use the buildings no missile can hit you and the jet can't turn sharp enough to cannon you either. It's pretty stressful to keep that up for 30 minutes though. Of course at any time an off radar buzzard is likely to rip you in half while otherwise occupied.

Edited August 31, 2014 by elfoam

[101perry]

Lazer: Alter the Cannon to become on level with the guns provided by the Buzzard and Annihilator. Meaning it would be able a 3-4 shot kill and require some form of accuracy, not just "shooting in the general area of the person" and meaning that you can safely fire the guns in the air while around other aircraft. I've already killed a friend by coming out of my phone and the last button I have pressed results in me firing. No more stupid 1 shot can destroy any plane or helicopter, but can damage them heavily with continued fire.

 

 

Buzzard: I find the tracking on missiles is really sub par. Enemy directly in front of me will cause the rocket to swerve and try to hit them from behind, resulting in a miss. Also, lock on seems fairly useless others are in an aircraft. Maybe, without police the player could lock on to other players in a tank. This would mitigate the Tank Griefing that I still find fairly common. The Cannon should be slightly increased to be just above the Lazer in terms of damage. Maybe a 2-3 shot as I find the rockets are a lot easier to use when unlocked compared to the guns.

 

Annihilator: Buff the weapons. GTA 4 had it nicely done, increasing the damage to make it actually useful for it's price would be nice. It takes quite a bit of time of continued fire on a plane to destroy it, giving someone enough time to jump out and just kill you. Explosive rounds may make it into a slow Hydra, as you could just rise up a building while firing, meaning when you reach a person at the top you'll be accurate enough to kill them before they can react. Also, people in the back seats should be able to snipe. It was fun to get a 6 star level in GTA 4 online and have people sit in the back and snipe other helicopters or even the cars below. (Wasn't the sniper rounds also explosive?) RPG would also be fun, but it could be balanced by removing to reticule when aiming.

 

All I want is the cannon on the lazer changed to not explode everything and the Annihilator to allow people to snipe again. That's the bare minimum I want.

[X S]

We've got members on here that want a Hydra and you guys are calling for nerfs on these other planes?

 

You guys are putting the cart before the horse. All they need to do they need to do is provide counter measures, such as a heat-seaking RPG. That's it.

[Dirty80s]

First it was the tanks. Then the buzzards and now the jets. Its not allowed to have fun in GTA V because it might upset a faggy gta community.

[kimle]

I've been thinking about this and finally had a revelation on how to fix the Lazer and Annihilator.

 

As we know the explosive rounds on the jet are a bit ridiculous, unless you have overhead cover a good jet pilot can infinitely spawn kill you before you can even get a round off. He doesn't even need to hit you.

 

So we've talked before about nerfing the cannons and I think we should but they shouldn't be made useless and the jet still needs to be a better weapon than the choppers so here's my idea.

 

Lazer jet.. The cannon should be basically heavy sniper rounds at the current fire rate and a little less range than the sniper. Same damage as the sniper,this should still alow you to mess up players, cars and even tanks so long as you hit them. But my greatest idea is to add an unguided bomb to the Lazer as compensation for losing the explosive rounds. A bomb with a lot of splash damage (more than a missle but difficult to aim). If you tried to drop it directly on some one from close range you would be within minigun range. But dropping bombs from altitude with skill would be kind of awesome for everyone involved.

 

Annihilator, same sniper rounds as above, no other changes.

 

Buzzard, given the same rounds and damage as a foot players minigun, no other changes.

Or we could call maryweather and use an ac130?? llololol

[oidgod]

 

I've been thinking about this and finally had a revelation on how to fix the Lazer and Annihilator.

 

As we know the explosive rounds on the jet are a bit ridiculous, unless you have overhead cover a good jet pilot can infinitely spawn kill you before you can even get a round off. He doesn't even need to hit you.

 

So we've talked before about nerfing the cannons and I think we should but they shouldn't be made useless and the jet still needs to be a better weapon than the choppers so here's my idea.

 

Lazer jet.. The cannon should be basically heavy sniper rounds at the current fire rate and a little less range than the sniper. Same damage as the sniper,this should still alow you to mess up players, cars and even tanks so long as you hit them. But my greatest idea is to add an unguided bomb to the Lazer as compensation for losing the explosive rounds. A bomb with a lot of splash damage (more than a missle but difficult to aim). If you tried to drop it directly on some one from close range you would be within minigun range. But dropping bombs from altitude with skill would be kind of awesome for everyone involved.

 

Annihilator, same sniper rounds as above, no other changes.

 

Buzzard, given the same rounds and damage as a foot players minigun, no other changes.

Or we could call maryweather and use an ac130?? llololol

 

Maybe GTA shouldn't be call of duty or battlefield, its crime, not ace pilots with military grade equipment.

[bkldestroya666]

Or just go in passive mode while aircraft is overhead. They will leave within seconds after not being able to kill you.

No nerfs needed, use the system R* has provided.

this

or just use a heavy sniper

[Fail_At_GTA]

Every time I come on these forums there's a few new threads bitching about jets/buzzards. You have so many options to avoid them, most notably passive mode, finding a new session, invite/solo session, or even singleplayer. Just stop your complaining.

[CheaterMcCheat]

 

When a Lazer pilot is trying to grief me I stand by my PV and wait for him to get close enough in his dive, then I quickly go into passive mode and they end up blowing up and paying for my PV and get no kill. Use your most expensive PV for this to piss them off. When they fly off all pissed off, exit passive and put some heavy sniper rounds in their jet.

i dont know where you have been playing but the lazer have been exempt from insurance/bad sport for months.

 

heck patch 1.16 made insurance/badsport almost a thing of the pass, since the patch dropped i have destroyed more than 100 PVs with stickybombs and paid insurance in only 3 occasions.

 

as for the jet and buzzard they have full exemption so the jokes on you!

But I was not charged.

[Alec Skorpio]

Maybe GTA shouldn't be call of duty or battlefield, its crime, not ace pilots with military grade equipment.

And yet five years ago everyone complained gta IV was too serious and crime focused, lacking things like attack helicopters, planes, fighter jets and heavy weaponry

[immature shitposter]

-Buzzard only has rocket pods that fire 12 rockets with a cool down TBOGT style

-Annihilator just like TBOGY, devastating cannons with a cool down

-Lazer cannons stay the same but with a f*ckING COOL DOWN

cool downs would be great lol the airplanes need some serious balancing so that they are all a little useful

[SimpleJack_420]

Or just go in passive mode while aircraft is overhead. They will leave within seconds after not being able to kill you.

 

No nerfs needed, use the system R* has provided.

You just don't want them gone.. You shouldn't have to go into passive. And you're so wrong about them just leaving. When someone goes into passive I just leave and wait for them to turn it off, because then theres a wait for them to reactivate so then I can kill them. If im in my jet I can literally make you stay in one area. Unless you go into passive, then i'll just make you walk everywhere. Sounds fun and fair right? Oh if by chance you do get a couple rounds off in my engine, i'll simply fly back to Zancudo and get another one b4 that one dies completely. Simple. Edited August 31, 2014 by SimpleJack_420

[Crunch McThornbody]

Lazer and Buzzard SHOULD NOT BE TOUCHED!

 

The Annihilator on the other hand - what a stinking pile of sh*te, steers like a cargo ship with pathetic firepower.

[SimpleJack_420]

Lazer and Buzzard SHOULD NOT BE TOUCHED!

 

The Annihilator on the other hand - what a stinking pile of sh*te, steers like a cargo ship with pathetic firepower.

Of course that Buzzard shouldn't.. You can easily be killed out of it..Unlike the lazer, where →→IF←← you hit and get his engine smoking he just runs to get another b4 that one dies. I do agree the annihilator does need tweaking as well.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

we simply need a heat seaking missile launcher that lock-on aircraft .....unlocked as low as level 40(because i think most people shoud be able to defend themselves against aircraft), sh*tty reload(reload lenght of the musket) , costing more then 4000 per round(all that so the rpg is still the way to go),...thats all we need

and though i think the jet is to overpowered, im not realy sure about nerfing the gun on the jet simply because the jet is the thing to use against tank grievers and the tank is still a pegasus vehicle while the jet needs to be stolen from the millitary base

and to be honest, when in the city jets can be fairly easy avoided by just having a wall at the side from wich the jet is flying to you

though maybe the jet its armor shoud be nerfed instead....woud be awsome if one hit of a minigun woud already let the jet have black smoke so it woudnt be able to fly much longer

[EvilFiend]

When a Lazer pilot is trying to grief me I stand by my PV and wait for him to get close enough in his dive, then I quickly go into passive mode and they end up blowing up and paying for my PV and get no kill. Use your most expensive PV for this to piss them off. When they fly off all pissed off, exit passive and put some heavy sniper rounds in their jet.

But how do you shoot the jet? You cant attack for 10 seconds and if the jet isnt gone by then well I find it hard to believe they could manage to blow a car up with the jet in the first place

[bkldestroya666]

Lazer and Buzzard SHOULD NOT BE TOUCHED!

 

The Annihilator on the other hand - what a stinking pile of sh*te, steers like a cargo ship with pathetic firepower.

the annihilator annihilates in air to air, and it annihilates the ground if you get used to the position of the guns

[SimpleJack_420]

 

Lazer and Buzzard SHOULD NOT BE TOUCHED!

 

The Annihilator on the other hand - what a stinking pile of sh*te, steers like a cargo ship with pathetic firepower.

the annihilator annihilates in air to air, and it annihilates the ground if you get used to the position of the gunsShouldn't the L come before the K in your name? Black Destroyer is your name right? Edited August 31, 2014 by SimpleJack_420

[Pedinhuh]

How do you ugys kill a Lazer in the ground?
Heavy sniper bullets? but where do you aim?

[SimpleJack_420]

How do you ugys kill a Lazer in the ground?

Heavy sniper bullets? but where do you aim?

Just shoot at the plane (you may have to lead). But it doesn't "kill" the jet, it just gets it smoking and after about 1-2min (depending how many times you hit it) it will disable and come crashing to the ground. But any competent pilot would just fly back to Zancudo to grab another one before their damaged aircraft dies completely. The heavy sniper is not an effective counter to the jet, its just that simple. Jet guys will say thats all you need to combat a jet LMFAO... Righhhhhhtttt.. Its just their way of justifying the keeping of the explosive rounds. I myself fly the jets, and yes i greif players here and there. Why not. Its in the game. Use it to its full potential till its nerfed. Whice I have no problem with, because then i'll just blow you up with the jets missiles. Edited September 1, 2014 by SimpleJack_420