Regarding jets and buzzards

[Relative007]

Buzzards are easy to take down, Yyou must be lagging pretty hard, I agree jets are OP though, Either remove explosive rounds or add anti laucher is a good start, I prefer the former a bit more since it'll be funny seeing jet griefers here like "OMG C* removed explosive rounds now I can't kill anyone because I'm not skilled enough!"

 

Jet has Incendiary Rounds since Jets can have said rounds in real life and they are much more effective when you are trying to hit a potentially moving target while moving yourself as less hits will do the Job.

Edited August 31, 2014 by Relative007

[SimpleJack_420]

 

 

Buzzards are easy to take down, Yyou must be lagging pretty hard, I agree jets are OP though, Either remove explosive rounds or add anti laucher is a good start, I prefer the former a bit more since it'll be funny seeing jet griefers here like "OMG C* removed explosive rounds now I can't kill anyone because I'm not skilled enough!"

Jet has Incendiary Rounds since Jets can have said rounds in real life and they are much more effective when you are trying to hit a potentially moving target while moving yourself as less hits will do the Job.

Real life huh? Well how do you explain the terminator cops? Because they are far from realistic. Point being, its a game.. Just because attack aircraft in RL have them, dont mean a video game should. Edited August 31, 2014 by SimpleJack_420

[Chaos69soahC]

These two need massive nerfs. They've made weapons about as powerful as my super soaker, tanks into paper, and left air units way too over powered. If you come across good jet/buzzard users, you'll know that it's pretty much impossible to take them down. Even good players have no choice but to jump in passive mode. I enjoy battling but I'm getting pretty tired of the new run away on foot, fight only with a jet routine.

I'm one of the Buzzard guys you complain of. (Perhaps we have 'met' before) I will clue you and everyone reading on how to cause me headaches if you are also not flying. It is simple. Get out of the vehicle if you are in one. Gunfire from cars, ect. is useless. If you are in one, you are dead sooner or later unless I crash in to something when not being careful. As mentioned elsewhere, gunfire from various weapons may kill me quick enough due to the big windows. Also, they will damage the chopper quckly. You don't need to destroy it. As soon as it starts smoking, I can't use it much longer and will crash if I don't abandon it. Use auto aim and as I get close, fire away.

 

Like any other battle, take cover. I may be able to blow you up if it isn't good cover but if you are behind solid material surrounding or blocking you well, I can't do anything and either have to leave, get up close or mauveuer around. When I do, take me out or at least damage the chopper. You may even be able to sniper me when I am not close or as I leave. I have to fly low when exiting a walking player to avoid such gunfire.

 

Don't get in to any aircraft without checking to see if other manned aircraft are nearby. You are most vulnerable at that point as you are taking time getting in and starting before you can exit.and can't fire weapons with any meaningful aiming at that point. If you are stealing the Razor, check radar before making your move. I will be keen to take you out on the ground before you are threat. I may even be stalking you to hit you at that moment.

 

I also tend to fly right over roadways so it appears on radar that I am driving in a ground vehicle and not in aircraft flying over buildings. Look for sway that cars don't make and other signs of aircraft use. Many people approach to kill another moving driver only to get suprise death from above as I safely fly away leaving your vehicle in a smoldering mess which I will gladly pay for.

 

Bottom line. Get on foot. Take cover and fire away. I'm either dead or going after someone else.

 

Edit: If there is more than one person in a vehicle, that's probably my preferred target. If you do stay in the vehicle, swerve about and take sharp turns and head for tunnels and bridges ect. Also, avoid taking the green car appearing on the map to bring to Simon when a chopper is flying. Sorry but, it is too much to pass up.

Edited August 31, 2014 by Chaos69soahC

[RedlineDrifts]

I don't understand all these daily threads whining about heavy vehicles being OP.

 

I'm in freemode a lot and I very rarely even encounter other players using these vehicles, especially helicopters. I'd say it's most likely you'll run into a jet, but with tanks on the mini-map now, there's barely any of those around and honestly I can count on one hand the times I've seen people fighting with a buzzard in freemode and I've been playing since the launch..

 

tl;dr Y'all need to change sessions or go into passive mode.

Edited August 31, 2014 by RedlineDrifts

[CatchMeTrolling]

I can kill people in a buzzard but its not even close to OP, now if it was something close to the little bird in bf4 maybe.

[SimpleJack_420]

 

 

These two need massive nerfs. They've made weapons about as powerful as my super soaker, tanks into paper, and left air units way too over powered. If you come across good jet/buzzard users, you'll know that it's pretty much impossible to take them down. Even good players have no choice but to jump in passive mode. I enjoy battling but I'm getting pretty tired of the new run away on foot, fight only with a jet routine.

I'm one of the Buzzard guys you complain of. (Perhaps we have 'met' before) I will clue you and everyone reading on how to cause me headaches if you are also not flying. It is simple. Get out of the vehicle if you are in one. Gunfire from cars, ect. is useless. If you are in one, you are dead sooner or later unless I crash in to something when not being careful. As mentioned elsewhere, gunfire from various weapons may kill me quick enough due to the big windows. Also, they will damage the chopper quckly. You don't need to destroy it. As soon as it starts smoking, I can't use it much longer and will crash if I don't abandon it. Use auto aim and as I get close, fire away.

 

Like any other battle, take cover. I may be able to blow you up if it isn't good cover but if you are behind solid material surrounding or blocking you well, I can't do anything and either have to leave, get up close or mauveuer around. When I do, take me out or at least damage the chopper. You may even be able to sniper me when I am not close or as I leave. I have to fly low when exiting a walking player to avoid such gunfire.

 

Don't get in to any aircraft without checking to see if other manned aircraft are nearby. You are most vulnerable at that point as you are taking time getting in and starting before you can exit.and can't fire weapons with any meaningful aiming at that point. If you are stealing the Razor, check radar before making your move. I will be keen to take you out on the ground before you are threat. I may even be stalking you to hit you at that moment.

 

I also tend to fly right over roadways so it appears on radar that I am driving in a ground vehicle and not in aircraft flying over buildings. Look for sway that cars don't make and other signs of aircraft use. Many people approach to kill another moving driver only to get suprise death from above as I safely fly away leaving your vehicle in a smoldering mess which I will gladly pay for.

 

Bottom line. Get on foot. Take cover and fire away. I'm either dead or going after someone else.

 

Edit: If there is more than one person in a vehicle, that's probably my preferred target. If you do stay in the vehicle, swerve about and take sharp turns and head for tunnels and bridges ect. Also, avoid taking the green car appearing on the map to bring to Simon when a chopper is flying. Sorry but, it is too much to pass up.

Amazing. Our play style is extraordinarily similar. I do everything you mentioned in your text. Smart man you are.

[ninjaontour]

OP can't bring the fire to the fight.

 

 

 

git gud nub.

[Chaos69soahC]

 

 

These two need massive nerfs. They've made weapons about as powerful as my super soaker, tanks into paper, and left air units way too over powered. If you come across good jet/buzzard users, you'll know that it's pretty much impossible to take them down. Even good players have no choice but to jump in passive mode. I enjoy battling but I'm getting pretty tired of the new run away on foot, fight only with a jet routine.

I'm one of the Buzzard guys you complain of. (Perhaps we have 'met' before) I will clue you and everyone reading on how to cause me headaches if you are also not flying. It is simple. Get out of the vehicle if you are in one. Gunfire from cars, ect. is useless. If you are in one, you are dead sooner or later unless I crash in to something when not being careful. As mentioned elsewhere, gunfire from various weapons may kill me quick enough due to the big windows. Also, they will damage the chopper quckly. You don't need to destroy it. As soon as it starts smoking, I can't use it much longer and will crash if I don't abandon it. Use auto aim and as I get close, fire away.

 

Like any other battle, take cover. I may be able to blow you up if it isn't good cover but if you are behind solid material surrounding or blocking you well, I can't do anything and either have to leave, get up close or mauveuer around. When I do, take me out or at least damage the chopper. You may even be able to sniper me when I am not close or as I leave. I have to fly low when exiting a walking player to avoid such gunfire.

 

Don't get in to any aircraft without checking to see if other manned aircraft are nearby. You are most vulnerable at that point as you are taking time getting in and starting before you can exit.and can't fire weapons with any meaningful aiming at that point. If you are stealing the Razor, check radar before making your move. I will be keen to take you out on the ground before you are threat. I may even be stalking you to hit you at that moment.

 

I also tend to fly right over roadways so it appears on radar that I am driving in a ground vehicle and not in aircraft flying over buildings. Look for sway that cars don't make and other signs of aircraft use. Many people approach to kill another moving driver only to get suprise death from above as I safely fly away leaving your vehicle in a smoldering mess which I will gladly pay for.

 

Bottom line. Get on foot. Take cover and fire away. I'm either dead or going after someone else.

 

Edit: If there is more than one person in a vehicle, that's probably my preferred target. If you do stay in the vehicle, swerve about and take sharp turns and head for tunnels and bridges ect. Also, avoid taking the green car appearing on the map to bring to Simon when a chopper is flying. Sorry but, it is too much to pass up.

Amazing. Our play style is extraordinarily similar. I do everything you mentioned in your text. Smart man you are.

 

Cool! Does that include the occasional unplanned crashing? I'm sure I have created a hilarious spectacles for some players I was after that has happened. But there have been so many glorious kills that make up for it.

 

[sultangris]

the only way a buzzard or a jet is gonna kill me is if i dont see it coming. super easy to kill the buzzard and really easy to avoid the jet if you next to a building and then snipe it as it circles for another try. a few misses by them and a few heavy sniper hits by you and the jet leaves you alone.

[Aether]

 

 

Buzzards do take skill to use and master. Not only do you have to be a good pilot but you have to be a good aimer. The Buzzard can smoke easily and has a big window for you to get locked on by auto aim or sniped out of. A lot of turbulence can make it even more difficult for the buzzard user. But as a professional pilot like myself I try to keep a good distance between my opponent who is on foot so I can avoid being locked on to and getting insta killed. But I am always vulnerable to decent snipers. Due to the big window decent snipers can pick you off quite easily. A few sniper shots to the buzzard will make it smoke as well. You can pull out a minigun and take the pilot out very easily if you're decent at aiming. I encountered 2 players trying to take me down using a minigun and killed them both with the rockets because they're aim wasn't that good.

My mini gun was hitting it just fine. For some odd reason, he wasn't taking any damage. My combat MG had a perfect lock and still did nothing. I always manually aim after auto aim has locked on. I didn't get much time to do anything and sniping him was impossible because he didn't miss with a single missile (still wondering how he did this, it was like he was able to lock on to us). I had around 3 seconds before being blown up again. He was gliding pretty fast sideways and circling the area I spawn in. I've never seen such a Rambo buzzard in all my days. Jets are also becoming jet li's in the city and no building, tower or ninja turtle can save you when you have to focus on both ground units and air.

 

Maybe he was one of those IV hardcore players. These players are just nuts with their aiming. All they do i just play 24/7 and they're that good. I'm a pro at piloting and using the buzzard as a weapon against players but aiming with that thing while being locked on to is not easy. Not to mention that the blast radius of the Buzzard missiles are immense. I've noticed this a lot. Even if you shoot the missile like 6 feet away from a player they will still die. Maybe it's lag or the blast radius is too OP.

 

 

 

You all might want to know.. Rockstar did us lV pilots a colossal favor and gave us the annihilator and buzzard handling in GTA5 that we had in lV to begin with. This came with the recent update, we don't have to deal with the turbulence anymore either. The helicopters are just as outrageously lethal as they used to be. It's awesome! So if you all are seeing more buzzard/annihilator pilots, it's because they are slowly migrating over into V.

 

 

A nightmare for you all, but a dream come true for us!

 

 

 

 

Edit: If there is more than one person in a vehicle, that's probably my preferred target. If you do stay in the vehicle, swerve about and take sharp turns and head for tunnels and bridges ect. Also, avoid taking the green car appearing on the map to bring to Simon when a chopper is flying. Sorry but, it is too much to pass up.

He is totally right haha!!!

 

When we see two people in a vehicle, it's like you guys are flashing a glorious pair of tits at us. We can't resist.

Edited September 1, 2014 by zVI Jackal IVz

[SimpleJack_420]

 

 

 

 

These two need massive nerfs. They've made weapons about as powerful as my super soaker, tanks into paper, and left air units way too over powered. If you come across good jet/buzzard users, you'll know that it's pretty much impossible to take them down. Even good players have no choice but to jump in passive mode. I enjoy battling but I'm getting pretty tired of the new run away on foot, fight only with a jet routine.

I'm one of the Buzzard guys you complain of. (Perhaps we have 'met' before) I will clue you and everyone reading on how to cause me headaches if you are also not flying. It is simple. Get out of the vehicle if you are in one. Gunfire from cars, ect. is useless. If you are in one, you are dead sooner or later unless I crash in to something when not being careful. As mentioned elsewhere, gunfire from various weapons may kill me quick enough due to the big windows. Also, they will damage the chopper quckly. You don't need to destroy it. As soon as it starts smoking, I can't use it much longer and will crash if I don't abandon it. Use auto aim and as I get close, fire away.

 

Like any other battle, take cover. I may be able to blow you up if it isn't good cover but if you are behind solid material surrounding or blocking you well, I can't do anything and either have to leave, get up close or mauveuer around. When I do, take me out or at least damage the chopper. You may even be able to sniper me when I am not close or as I leave. I have to fly low when exiting a walking player to avoid such gunfire.

 

Don't get in to any aircraft without checking to see if other manned aircraft are nearby. You are most vulnerable at that point as you are taking time getting in and starting before you can exit.and can't fire weapons with any meaningful aiming at that point. If you are stealing the Razor, check radar before making your move. I will be keen to take you out on the ground before you are threat. I may even be stalking you to hit you at that moment.

 

I also tend to fly right over roadways so it appears on radar that I am driving in a ground vehicle and not in aircraft flying over buildings. Look for sway that cars don't make and other signs of aircraft use. Many people approach to kill another moving driver only to get suprise death from above as I safely fly away leaving your vehicle in a smoldering mess which I will gladly pay for.

 

Bottom line. Get on foot. Take cover and fire away. I'm either dead or going after someone else.

 

Edit: If there is more than one person in a vehicle, that's probably my preferred target. If you do stay in the vehicle, swerve about and take sharp turns and head for tunnels and bridges ect. Also, avoid taking the green car appearing on the map to bring to Simon when a chopper is flying. Sorry but, it is too much to pass up.

Amazing. Our play style is extraordinarily similar. I do everything you mentioned in your text. Smart man you are.

 

Cool! Does that include the occasional unplanned crashing? I'm sure I have created a hilarious spectacles for some players I was after that has happened. But there have been so many glorious kills that make up for it.

 

Certainly lol. I seem to always run into the cranes in the city at night. I always forget they're there. Or im chasing someone and dont see the obstruction just infront of me and BOOM, they drive off laughing their a** off.

[floof]

Unless you're out in the open and he's got the drop on you....everything is fair game. Don't be a retard on the ground and you have a shot.

So your solution is just to hide. You're a f*cking idiot. Don't reply to me with stupid sh*t like that. Someone go buzzard-rape this guy.

 

On gta you can only aim upward to a 45 degree angle, where in a buzzard you can Bob a 90 degree angle, firing a rocket straight down. In the OPs situation, it is a reasonable assumption that no friends are helping you fight this buzzard, making it impossible for you to shoot even at the heli itself if a pilot doesn't want you to be able to. The only solution to fight it (from ground) would be to hide and wait for a shot, which you are assuming will always happen, but like I keep saying, if they don't want to be shot, you will never even get your reticule on then.

 

Many people in my crew have 10.0 and above kdrs from using this method to constantly spawn kill. You sound ridiculous trying to argue without facts, but I'm probably speaking with an auto aim player.

[Chaos69soahC]

 

Unless you're out in the open and he's got the drop on you....everything is fair game. Don't be a retard on the ground and you have a shot.

So your solution is just to hide. You're a f*cking idiot. Don't reply to me with stupid sh*t like that. Someone go buzzard-rape this guy.

 

On gta you can only aim upward to a 45 degree angle, where in a buzzard you can Bob a 90 degree angle, firing a rocket straight down. In the OPs situation, it is a reasonable assumption that no friends are helping you fight this buzzard, making it impossible for you to shoot even at the heli itself if a pilot doesn't want you to be able to. The only solution to fight it (from ground) would be to hide and wait for a shot, which you are assuming will always happen, but like I keep saying, if they don't want to be shot, you will never even get your reticule on then.

 

Many people in my crew have 10.0 and above kdrs from using this method to constantly spawn kill. You sound ridiculous trying to argue without facts, but I'm probably speaking with an auto aim player.

 

"So your solution is just to hide. You're a f*cking idiot."

 

The suggestion was obviously to use cover. Like any other battle. I kill buzzards all the time. If someone is shooting missle from right above, I move. Don't dwadle around when spawning. Move you ass, maunever, fire.

Edited September 2, 2014 by Chaos69soahC

[Elsy]

Funny all the hate and crying over how op aircraft is when in reality they take a lot more dedication and skill to get kills with in comparison to hiding like a little coward relying on auto aim 24/7...

Hats off to free aim players though.

[KeeNer187]

Hide from good jet pilots, preferably near huge palm trees or light poles and use a heavy sniper or mini gun. Although using a minigun makes it pretty obvious where you are and they will kill you.

 

Never stop shooting at buzzard pilots because it makes it hard to concentrate on landing rockets and also the buzzard is pretty weak. Just keep shooting from an alley way and they will go away eventually. Standing out in the open makes you a pretty easy target also and stay away from cars too.

[Daemian]

Come on, the amount of good helicopter/jet pilots is very low, most of them just get a kill before crashing, As you said there are some very good buzzard/jet pilots but you won't find them in every lobby.

 

If you want to battle against jets and buzzards on foot you're prone to getting killed over and over because they're superior, you shouldn't be able to take down an air unit easily.

Edited September 2, 2014 by Daimondl

[SimpleJack_420]

Come on, the amount of good helicopter/jet pilots is very low, most of them just get a kill before crashing, As you said there are some very good buzzard/jet pilots but you won't find them in every lobby.

 

If you want to battle against jets and buzzards on foot you're prone to getting killed over and over because they're superior, you shouldn't be able to take down an air unit easily.

This is true.

[Megakillertron]

I don't feel that the Buzzard needs nerfing, but the Jet could do with being made more susceptible to small arms fire.

[Coyteria]

 

These two need massive nerfs. They've made weapons about as powerful as my super soaker, tanks into paper, and left air units way too over powered. If you come across good jet/buzzard users, you'll know that it's pretty much impossible to take them down. Even good players have no choice but to jump in passive mode. I enjoy battling but I'm getting pretty tired of the new run away on foot, fight only with a jet routine.

 

Jet: Use a Heavy Sniper, Minigun, or a Minigun. Or hide in a tunnel and watch them crash.

 

Buzzard: When close, use the Assault Shotgun. It's great for taking out helicopters. If far, most weapons can take it out. Try shooting the rockets. It'll make it explode. Also the windows on the Buzzard are kind of large.

 

You do know there is a glitch to repair jets? I've been using it when I start to smoke up. Then when I'm good, I f*ck em up again. -_-

[iBUCKEYE]

 

Unless you're out in the open and he's got the drop on you....everything is fair game. Don't be a retard on the ground and you have a shot.

So your solution is just to hide. You're a f*cking idiot. Don't reply to me with stupid sh*t like that. Someone go buzzard-rape this guy.

On gta you can only aim upward to a 45 degree angle, where in a buzzard you can Bob a 90 degree angle, firing a rocket straight down. In the OPs situation, it is a reasonable assumption that no friends are helping you fight this buzzard, making it impossible for you to shoot even at the heli itself if a pilot doesn't want you to be able to. The only solution to fight it (from ground) would be to hide and wait for a shot, which you are assuming will always happen, but like I keep saying, if they don't want to be shot, you will never even get your reticule on then.

Many people in my crew have 10.0 and above kdrs from using this method to constantly spawn kill. You sound ridiculous trying to argue without facts, but I'm probably speaking with an auto aim player.

Holy sh*t did you eat paint chips as a kid(you're probably still going through puberty)? Anyone with half a brain uses cover when fighting.

 

The only way a buzzard pilot has an overpowering advantage is if he gets the drop(which with turtle beaches and constant radar checking isn't often), and is a damn good pilot(there goes 90% of the population). And thats assuming I'm playing alone...If you let the pilot get directly above you to where you can't shoot and you're out in the open, you're a dumbass.

 

And I constantly switch between free aim an auto aim, so I've dealt with pilots on both sides.

[5HT2a]

I don't understand all these daily threads whining about heavy vehicles being OP.

 

I'm in freemode a lot and I very rarely even encounter other players using these vehicles, especially helicopters. I'd say it's most likely you'll run into a jet, but with tanks on the mini-map now, there's barely any of those around and honestly I can count on one hand the times I've seen people fighting with a buzzard in freemode and I've been playing since the launch..

 

tl;dr Y'all need to change sessions or go into passive mode.

 

This.

 

 

Honestly, I think that most people are simply too lazy to learn how to counter these vehicles (and counters exist to every one of them, including the pre-nerf tank), and would rather petition to Rockstar to change the game to their liking. Rockstar set a bad precedent by nerfing the tank, IMO, considering everybody and their grandmother had already figured out six ways to destroy them already.

 

No more nerfs. Bring the tank back to its original form. I hate tanks, but a tank should still behave like a tank. It used to be rewarding to destroy tanks; now, the guy who grabs one is essentially an idiot.

[floof]

 

 

Unless you're out in the open and he's got the drop on you....everything is fair game. Don't be a retard on the ground and you have a shot.

So your solution is just to hide. You're a f*cking idiot. Don't reply to me with stupid sh*t like that. Someone go buzzard-rape this guy.

On gta you can only aim upward to a 45 degree angle, where in a buzzard you can Bob a 90 degree angle, firing a rocket straight down. In the OPs situation, it is a reasonable assumption that no friends are helping you fight this buzzard, making it impossible for you to shoot even at the heli itself if a pilot doesn't want you to be able to. The only solution to fight it (from ground) would be to hide and wait for a shot, which you are assuming will always happen, but like I keep saying, if they don't want to be shot, you will never even get your reticule on then.

Many people in my crew have 10.0 and above kdrs from using this method to constantly spawn kill. You sound ridiculous trying to argue without facts, but I'm probably speaking with an auto aim player.

Holy sh*t did you eat paint chips as a kid(you're probably still going through puberty)? Anyone with half a brain uses cover when fighting.

 

The only way a buzzard pilot has an overpowering advantage is if he gets the drop(which with turtle beaches and constant radar checking isn't often), and is a damn good pilot(there goes 90% of the population). And thats assuming I'm playing alone...If you let the pilot get directly above you to where you can't shoot and you're out in the open, you're a dumbass.

 

And I constantly switch between free aim an auto aim, so I've dealt with pilots on both sides.

 

Okay, so you're an autoaim player like I said, you don't even see half the action. Like I told you in my last post, you can't fight a good pilot on ground, only hide from him(which defeats the purpose of this thread). We can avoid giving you any opportunity at all for you to aim at us.

 

Why don't you just add me and let me go ahead and spawn trap you with a buzzard? You'll do one of three thing; Passive Mode, Hide, or Leave.

Edited September 2, 2014 by coldmurda

[NDE108]

Everyone take note of OP's name. He's a pussy-bitch that wants to nerf everything because of his lack of skill and battle tactics. I remember when GTAO first came out I used to lurk this forum quite often, I remember seeing that pussy-bitch OP whining about something stupid back then. It looks like he still sucks at this game almost a year later.