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Multi-class racing and more vehicle classes?


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Wouldnt it be cool if we could race with boats on the street?

 

Buhaaaaaa

 

Cool idea though.

 

More classes like, military vehicles? Semi trucks only? Sounds fun

+ if you detach the trailer you have to start over again?
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Wouldn't it be cool if Rockstar allowed us to race in different vehicle classes in races? For example, one person can be in a Coquette, and he can race someone in a Gauntlet?

 

Also, how about we add more vehicles to races? We can race buses or tanks down the streets.

 

 

post your opinions below

 

yea they let us do this in gta iv not sure why here but going off topic wtf is up with that sig?

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IF this was to ever happen then, the classes would have to be tweaked like hell for an "Any Class" mode. The Motorcycles would still dominate the Leaderboards though.

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I want to see better class diversification.

 

Sports Classics and Super Sports Classics (obviously the current system is balls)

Sports Bikes, Touring Bikes and Dirt Bikes (and add more dirt bikes)

The Liberator should be it's own class

 

I also understand why they have some sedans in coupes etc, but really that should be fixed.

 

A PI system like Forza is a better option, Performance Index allows all kinds of freedom while being fair, but it might also be too hard to implement with GTA's vehicles

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mixed classes would be nice, but I do think they'd still have to restrict the mixed classes based on performance or something

I mean if it's an open class what's to stop every1 from just picking the zentorno basically making mixed class races exactly the same as any other?

 

Obviously the Supers, Bikes, and Sports would be the most picked. The idea is that there are no restrictions. This would be great for crews or friends. I know my crew would be down for a 24 hr Nurburgring with 2 classes, say all Supers and Comets.

It's just a fun class, it isn't supposed to be balanced.

 

now that you put it like that, yes we should have at least have the option especially for friendly and crew races.

but in any competitive race with randoms I think I would go with an entity or something every time as well.

 

that's why I suggested grouping them based on performance instead of car class.

 

so for instance group some of the lower end sports cars like the futo and schwartzer with the high end coupes

or the low end supers like vacca or bullet with some of the high end sports cars like the elegy and massacro

or high end coupes vs muscle etc.

 

dno if these exact examples would all be balanced since I just did it off the top of my head and don't know all these cars ins and outs

but I think the basic idea would definitely work and could really change up the whole racing experience in gta:o

What this guy said ^. This is the only way this would work. Performance based instead of class based.

 

This would give use to slow sports cars like the penumbra. However, R* would have to implement some sort of performance limitations.

 

Like instead of selecting a class you would select the number of bars in accel, speed, braking and traction and whoever has some stats close to that, would be able to use his or her vehicle. Problem is, the game should pick these automatically values first so that the host doesnt pick something that no one else has.

 

 

Btw, schwartzers are not lower end sports cars :)

I own one and i have easily kicked massacros jesters and carbonizzares asses many times with a schwartzer.

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I've long wanted an open or unlimited class for racing.

If you pick an SUV then TS for being stupid.

Biggest problem I can see though is the Bati and Akuma would destroy everything and it would take far too long in the time available to scroll through all the available vehicles when choosing your ride. It would probably have to be PV's only.

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mixed classes would be nice, but I do think they'd still have to restrict the mixed classes based on performance or something

I mean if it's an open class what's to stop every1 from just picking the zentorno basically making mixed class races exactly the same as any other?

Obviously the Supers, Bikes, and Sports would be the most picked. The idea is that there are no restrictions. This would be great for crews or friends. I know my crew would be down for a 24 hr Nurburgring with 2 classes, say all Supers and Comets.

It's just a fun class, it isn't supposed to be balanced.

now that you put it like that, yes we should have at least have the option especially for friendly and crew races.

but in any competitive race with randoms I think I would go with an entity or something every time as well.

 

that's why I suggested grouping them based on performance instead of car class.

 

so for instance group some of the lower end sports cars like the futo and schwartzer with the high end coupes

or the low end supers like vacca or bullet with some of the high end sports cars like the elegy and massacro

or high end coupes vs muscle etc.

 

dno if these exact examples would all be balanced since I just did it off the top of my head and don't know all these cars ins and outs

but I think the basic idea would definitely work and could really change up the whole racing experience in gta:o

What this guy said ^. This is the only way this would work. Performance based instead of class based.

 

This would give use to slow sports cars like the penumbra. However, R* would have to implement some sort of performance limitations.

 

Like instead of selecting a class you would select the number of bars in accel, speed, braking and traction and whoever has some stats close to that, would be able to use his or her vehicle. Problem is, the game should pick these automatically values first so that the host doesnt pick something that no one else has.

 

 

Btw, schwartzers are not lower end sports cars :)

I own one and i have easily kicked massacros jesters and carbonizzares asses many times with a schwartzer.

 

just because you beat some sh*tty drivers in superior vehicles does not mean it's even slightly competitive...the higher tier top drivers in the world (I've raced against them) don't use anything other than the most competitive cars with a few exceptions where tracks suit downshifting ala the banshee etc

 

It is a beautiful vehicle though but I just use my schafter in sedan races (tight tracks the tailgater)

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You guys are over thinking it. No PI system is needed. That would limit it the same way. Everyone's car is fully maxed out anyways, so the Supers would still be fastest.

 

The class is just for fun. It does not need to be "balanced" or "fair".

 

I just want the option for me and my crew to race Muscle and Sedans or Sports and Super together.

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Wouldn't it be cool if Rockstar allowed us to race in different vehicle classes in races? For example, one person can be in a Coquette, and he can race someone in a Gauntlet?

 

Also, how about we add more vehicles to races? We can race buses or tanks down the streets.

 

 

post your opinions below

Freemode or GTA races, problem solved

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This would be a cool idea somewhat but also unfair as there IS a reason why there are classes in the first place. No way in hell a panto can hang with a zentorno on a straight away or a massacro could beat a bati or akuma in a track full of turns. I think that people forget about the impromptu race feature in this game because its very difficult to initiate one in free roam without getting shot at or blown up. But this is the ultimate way for all cars regardless of class to compete against each other.

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no. horrible idea. thats how it was in midnight club la, and it failed so bad. everyone would just race bikes because they dominated everything else.

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mixed classes would be nice, but I do think they'd still have to restrict the mixed classes based on performance or something

I mean if it's an open class what's to stop every1 from just picking the zentorno basically making mixed class races exactly the same as any other?

Obviously the Supers, Bikes, and Sports would be the most picked. The idea is that there are no restrictions. This would be great for crews or friends. I know my crew would be down for a 24 hr Nurburgring with 2 classes, say all Supers and Comets.

It's just a fun class, it isn't supposed to be balanced.

now that you put it like that, yes we should have at least have the option especially for friendly and crew races.

but in any competitive race with randoms I think I would go with an entity or something every time as well.

 

that's why I suggested grouping them based on performance instead of car class.

 

so for instance group some of the lower end sports cars like the futo and schwartzer with the high end coupes

or the low end supers like vacca or bullet with some of the high end sports cars like the elegy and massacro

or high end coupes vs muscle etc.

 

dno if these exact examples would all be balanced since I just did it off the top of my head and don't know all these cars ins and outs

but I think the basic idea would definitely work and could really change up the whole racing experience in gta:o

What this guy said ^. This is the only way this would work. Performance based instead of class based.

 

This would give use to slow sports cars like the penumbra. However, R* would have to implement some sort of performance limitations.

 

Like instead of selecting a class you would select the number of bars in accel, speed, braking and traction and whoever has some stats close to that, would be able to use his or her vehicle. Problem is, the game should pick these automatically values first so that the host doesnt pick something that no one else has.

 

 

Btw, schwartzers are not lower end sports cars :)

I own one and i have easily kicked massacros jesters and carbonizzares asses many times with a schwartzer.

 

 

yep, like I said I dno how exactly it should work, whether it will be fixed classes of certain cars with similar performance or something like you said with the stat bars

the stat bars aren't exactly accurate though so I dno how that would all work out, but it would be cool since modding would also play a bigger role

right now every1 just installs everything on every car, but with a performance based class system that turbo could disqualify you from taking part.

 

also, I own 3 out of those 4 cars (got rid of the jester) and the scwartzer is considerably slower

I really have it for drifting and looking badass in free mode.

ofcourse you could win races with it but all other things being equal the massacro or carbon will win.

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i know for sure that if they can everyone will be racing in super cars

and if not those then sports

and if not that one they will go for sport classics

ect....

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I think half of you have no idea what a multi class race actually is.

 

It's TWO races, one is one class, one is the other.

It creates racing traffic for the faster class.

 

It's not rocket science.

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Sure.We could have it.But it have to be split into categories such as:acceleration 1 bar,2 bars,3 bars,4 bars and over 4 bars.This would ensure that no one can choose overpowered cars.

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Wouldn't it be cool if Rockstar allowed us to race in different vehicle classes in races? For example, one person can be in a Coquette, and he can race someone in a Gauntlet?

 

Also, how about we add more vehicles to races? We can race buses or tanks down the streets.

 

 

post your opinions below

I think we'd need a "Heavy" class for tanks. Probably have it Rhino VS Fieldmaster VS Dump VS Bulldozer.

 

SLOWEST..... RACE..... EVER!!!!!

 

But a mixed class as I said before would be great, and buses and rigs added would be awesome.

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I want Semi trailer truck races where you have to get to the end with your trailer intact.

 

Also, vehicle relay races. Race a cargobob to a location whilst it's carrying a truck, drop it off and race that truck somewhere, back it up to water and out pops a jet ski. ...not really.

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This isn't a good idea.

 

Everyone is always going to pick Supers. And honestly, there aren't really any classes that can exactly compete FAIRLY against each other. It's called balance and that doesn't have any. And if this refers to "two races", go host a play list of 2 jobs. Pick a class for one and pick a different class for the other.

 

Don't need more classes either. What it does need is the tweaking of some vehicles (like removing Sanchez bikes from Off-Road for example). That and they need to be better filled out (more competitive choices and more for fun vehicles).

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This isn't a good idea.

 

Everyone is always going to pick Supers. And honestly, there aren't really any classes that can exactly compete FAIRLY against each other. It's called balance and that doesn't have any. And if this refers to "two races", go host a play list of 2 jobs. Pick a class for one and pick a different class for the other.

 

Don't need more classes either. What it does need is the tweaking of some vehicles (like removing Sanchez bikes from Off-Road for example). That and they need to be better filled out (more competitive choices and more for fun vehicles).

You guys don't get it. This class would be just for fun. For crews and friends to use. Plenty of classes compete with each other, Sedans and Compacts. Coupes and slower Sports. Sports and Supers.

 

And we are not talking about two classes racing at the same time to create traffic for the faster class. I just want to race with any car I want. It is not supposed to be balanced.

 

Everyone is over thinking it. It's just for fun guys.

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This isn't a good idea.

 

Everyone is always going to pick Supers. And honestly, there aren't really any classes that can exactly compete FAIRLY against each other. It's called balance and that doesn't have any. And if this refers to "two races", go host a play list of 2 jobs. Pick a class for one and pick a different class for the other.

 

Don't need more classes either. What it does need is the tweaking of some vehicles (like removing Sanchez bikes from Off-Road for example). That and they need to be better filled out (more competitive choices and more for fun vehicles).

I dont think you realise what multi class racing is

Multi-Class Racing - GTA Online Racing #27:

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This isn't a good idea.

 

Everyone is always going to pick Supers. And honestly, there aren't really any classes that can exactly compete FAIRLY against each other. It's called balance and that doesn't have any. And if this refers to "two races", go host a play list of 2 jobs. Pick a class for one and pick a different class for the other.

 

Don't need more classes either. What it does need is the tweaking of some vehicles (like removing Sanchez bikes from Off-Road for example). That and they need to be better filled out (more competitive choices and more for fun vehicles).

I dont think you realise what multi class racing is

Multi-Class Racing - GTA Online Racing #27:

No, you don't understand. All the cars in that video are Sports. That's not what we are talking about. Not two races during one race.

 

We are talking about the ability to pick any car for the race.

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This could actually be very easily implimented. Simply add a toggle in the lobby for "Multiclass" on/off. When it is off everything is as it is now. When it is on, the car class chosen for the race would be the "highest" class allowed in the vehicle selection window. All the other classes below it would also be available. So lets say you get in a super race but you either dont have one or it was destroyed or whatever, you could choose to run a stock super or maybe have a better chance in your custom sports car. If it is set to SUV then you could have sedans or compacts involved. Setting it to MC would basically allow you to use any class vehicle.

 

When making custom races you can limit classes available and be able to set up special races like sport vs mc or coupe vs offroad or something.

 

It could very much work and would be default off to keep the mainstream happy.

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This isn't a good idea.

 

Everyone is always going to pick Supers. And honestly, there aren't really any classes that can exactly compete FAIRLY against each other. It's called balance and that doesn't have any. And if this refers to "two races", go host a play list of 2 jobs. Pick a class for one and pick a different class for the other.

 

Don't need more classes either. What it does need is the tweaking of some vehicles (like removing Sanchez bikes from Off-Road for example). That and they need to be better filled out (more competitive choices and more for fun vehicles).

I dont think you realise what multi class racing is

Multi-Class Racing - GTA Online Racing #27:

No, you don't understand. All the cars in that video are Sports. That's not what we are talking about. Not two races during one race.

 

We are talking about the ability to pick any car for the race.

Oh... Well then that's pretty pointless
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This isn't a good idea.

 

Everyone is always going to pick Supers. And honestly, there aren't really any classes that can exactly compete FAIRLY against each other. It's called balance and that doesn't have any. And if this refers to "two races", go host a play list of 2 jobs. Pick a class for one and pick a different class for the other.

 

Don't need more classes either. What it does need is the tweaking of some vehicles (like removing Sanchez bikes from Off-Road for example). That and they need to be better filled out (more competitive choices and more for fun vehicles).

I dont think you realise what multi class racing is

Multi-Class Racing - GTA Online Racing #27:

No, you don't understand. All the cars in that video are Sports. That's not what we are talking about. Not two races during one race.

 

We are talking about the ability to pick any car for the race.

Oh... Well then that's pretty pointless

 

Feltzer vs Voltic vs Bullet vs Exemplar

 

Races like that aren't pointless. Quite even if you ask me.

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