Alpha Demigod Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) False accusations are statistically rare Statistics aren't everything. Keep in mind that, these are statistics. They can be skewed or misinterpreted or fabricated depending on what investigative techniques were used, the context of every research session, and so and so forth. Now here's a bunch of statistics. Make of it what you will, using your current attitude on statistics. The infamous Eugene Kanin study found a 41% false rape figure in a small metropolitan community. A follow up study, found 50% of rape allegations in college to be false. Among the false charges, 53% of the women admitted they filed the false claim as an alibi.http://falserapearchives.blogspot.com/2009/06/archives-of-sexual-behavior-feb-1994.html http://www.archive.org/details/FalseRapeAllegations US Air force study confirms 60% of rapes to be false, a full 27% of the allegations were confirmed to be false because the woman admitted to making them up.http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume6/j6_2_4.htm The above link comes from a Forensic website, not a biased feminist one, and concludes the following: Empirical evidence does not support the widespread belief that women are extremely unlikely to make false accusations of male sexual misconduct. Rather the research on accusations of rape, sexual harassment, incest, and child sexual abuse indicates that false accusations have become a serious problem. The motivations involved in making a false report are widely varied and include confusion, outside influence from therapists and others, habitual lying, advantages in custody disputes, financial gain, and the political ideology of radical feminism. From report: The McDowell recruited independent reviewers who were given 25 criteria derived from the profiles of the women who openly admitted making a false allegation. If all three reviewers agreed that the rape allegation was false, it was then listed by that description. The result: 60% of the accusations were identified as false. McDowell also took his study outside the military by examining police files from a major Midwestern and a southwestern city. He found that the finding of 60% held Also here is a Q and A with Mcdowell:In an interview in the June 1985 issue of Chicago Lawyer, McDowell told Rob Warden, the editor. Q: How was the model developed? A: It is based on a study of 1,218 cases that were initially investigated as rapes. Of those, 460 were proven rapes, 212 were disproved allegations, and 546 cases remain unresolved. Q: What were your criteria for classifying a rape accusation as disproved? A: There was just one criterion. In each case, the victim ultimately admitted that the allegation was a hoax. Q: All 212 of those cases are now admitted to have been false allegations? A: Yes. That’s the reason that we have a leftover category of 546 cases. My personal opinion, based on the evidence, is that many of those also are false allegations. But they are not admitted hoaxes, and we have not classified them as disproved. We have been extremely conservative in classifying an allegation as false for purposes of the study. Q: What were your criteria for classifying an allegation as proved? Are these all convictions? A: They’re not all convictions. Some are, but the remainder is cases in which the overwhelming preponderance of the evidence supports the allegation so strongly that there really is no other logical conclusion. Q: Then your standard for classifying an allegation is false? A: Definitely. If there was a margin for error, if there was any area in which we gave the benefit of any doubt, it was in favor of a rape.” http://www.falserape.net/falserapeafa.htm Colorado’s Craig Silverman – a rape prosecutor – said the following about false reports:“During my time as a prosecutor who made case filing decisions, I was amazed to see all the false rape allegations that were made to the Denver Police Department. It was remarkable and surprising to me. You would have to see it to believe it. Any honest veteran sex assault investigator will tell you that rape is one of the most falsely reported crimes that there is. A command officer in the Denver police sex assaults unit recently told me he placed the false rape numbers at approximately 45 percent.” http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=573 False accusations are statistically rare and usually don't result in a conviction anyway. Even so, that's a judicial issue, not legislative. It's irrefragable that accusations do not need to result in formal conviction from ruling government in order to be extremely damaging. As a girl, claiming false rape is really f*cking low. I can't even imagine what state of mind a person has to be in, in order to falsely accuse someone of something like that and borderline ruin their life by having them listed as sex offenders. Now, what I'm not okay with is actual rape cases being undermined, or rapists walking around thinking they're some sort of hot sh*t alpha macho Charlie Sheen cumpuddle that can just have non-consensual sex with whomever they like. Don't stick your dicks in crazy, guys. And don't stick your dicks in places you're not welcome in. A rational, sane, and decent woman on a thread discussing gender issues? What a lovely sight. Blessings to you Edited September 1, 2014 by Dark Bordeus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 The issue with the above is I'm not entirely sure of the metric being used to establish what a "false" claim is. Take the USAF statistics; if 27% of rape allegations are made up but 60% are false, what about the other 33%? If they haven't been made up, how are they false? Is it a case of them going to trial and the alleged attacker being acquitted? Because strictly speaking that isn't necessarily evidence they were false. Were they dropped by the prosecutors due to lack of evidence or concerns about the victim's reliability and therefore assumed to be false? Same rules apply. Headline statistics are all well and good but without knowing how the concept of "false claims" is being determined then it's quite hard to establish whether it really is an accurate reflection of trends or an attempt by individuals with a personal agenda to massage figures into proving a point they actually don't. In fact, I'd argue that there are many circumstances in which the victims of rape may choose to claim they made up the allegation and face the penalty for doing so rather than continue to press charges, particularly in abusive and violent relationships or where they believe that continuing to press charges may put them, their children, family or friends at risk of violence or harassment. D- Ice and Tyler 2 AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coin Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 False accusations are statistically rare and usually don't result in a conviction anyway. Even so, that's a judicial issue, not legislative. Because conviction is the only possible bad outcome from such an allegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Fandango Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Here's what people seem to be forgetting: Reciprocation is a form of consent. If you're both equally involved in sex, it isn't rape. If you're having sex with a girl who is barely awake, while you are still sober enough to engage in sex, you're a rapist. This isn't just about straight women. People of all genders and sexual orientation are raped on college campuses with alarming frequency, and this bill doesn't single out men as more likely perpetrators, so can the indignation. If two people are equally drunk and equally involved, the sex is obviously reciprocal. You can't have two people being charged for the rape of each other. This is about holding colleges accountable for prosecuting cases that are rape under the law, it doesn't broaden the definition of rape. make total destroy, D- Ice, blitz and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D- Ice Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) Whatever happened to "the government has no place in the bedroom?" It never existed in the first place, but that is irrelevant considering that piece of rhetoric relates to consensual relationships between adults, not in relation to a possible crime.But what if no crime has been committed? What if it's just two people making bad decisions together? The biggest problem here is that two people are guilty but only one gets charged for it, then the other gets treated like a child with a boo boo. If consuming alcohol negates your ability to consent, why not just ban intoxicated intercourse outright and stop pretending people have rights? Good points mate. I think (or at least hope) legally, people take responsibility for their drunkenness - thus the minimum drinking age to ensure people are mature enough. From what I understand from the article, it is mainly aimed at people having sex with people too drunk or drugged to agree to sex. If someone is drunk and agrees to sex with someone they won't sober, they have no right to call it rape. The responsibility for their bad and regrettable choice rests squarely on them, as they chose to get drunk and go out in the first place. Edited September 1, 2014 by D- Ice gtamann123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I cucked Alex Jones Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) How the hell is it even possible to get convicted because of a false allegation of rape against you? Unless they vigorously ram a dildo around their hate hole and inflict bruises on themselves to make it look like they were raped, how else can it be possible? You shouldn't be able to be convicted of something just on someone's word. I don't know where you're from, but in the developed world society revolves around the happiness of women. It's called gynocentrism. It's why women get reduced sentences when committing crimes, but men get the full consequence of the law. It's why women's health gets more funding. It's why women's issues receive more attention overall, and are globally backed. In the modern world, women are the most privileged group and have unbridled power. You can snap your fingers and yell "sexism!" and the entire government will jump at your feet to create a new statute that gives you bonuses because you have ovaries. And yes, by extension it also means that a woman's words alone are enough to get a man ruined over a rape charge. Just look at the examples I've posted. If you want more let me know Have you ever played Monopoly? Now apply that to what women have. Yes, yes. Let the fedora flow through you. Edited September 1, 2014 by Nipperkins Clem Fandango, Mr. House and make total destroy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Demigod Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Atta boy! Make cheesy inaccurate jokes about me, as a character, instead of acknowledging or addressing the points in the post. Good job, kid. You're so cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
make total destroy Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) Why do you call people older than you kid, kid? Edited September 1, 2014 by ShootPeopleNotDope Femme Fatale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_stu Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Why do you call people older than you kid, kid? Shush, kid. (I was born 12 may 1992 so I outrank you by 2 days) Frank Brown and make total destroy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
make total destroy Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Why do you call people older than you kid, kid? Shush, kid. (I was born 12 may 1992 so I outrank you by 2 days) God dammit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danz. Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Don't stick your dicks in crazy, guys. And don't stick your dicks in places you're not welcome in. Does rubbing the button also count as a sexual abuse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I cucked Alex Jones Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Atta boy! Make cheesy inaccurate jokes about me, as a character, instead of acknowledging or addressing the points in the post. Good job, kid. You're so cool. Put on your big boy fedora and learn to take a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVelocar Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) Those "points" were fedora as hell. Typical spoiled boy behaviour, you've no experience of actual hardship so you think any allowance for women is a denial to men. It's like how a baby who's dropped his ice cream cone cries because it's the worst tragedy he's ever suffered. Worse, even, because instead of a tasty 99 flake, it's child support and a pap smear. And you're old enough to know better. Edited September 2, 2014 by LeVelocar Clem Fandango and Mr. House 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Demigod Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) Those "points" were fedora as hell. I really don't understand all this jargon. How is "fedora" an adjective? What does it mean when a point is "fedora"? That it's invalid? I assume fedora is a play to some MRA symbol. People really need to understand that anti-feminism does not = MRA. Not all MRAs are anti-feminists, and not all anti-feminists are MRAs. Anti-feminism is the rational notion that women are mature adults, should be held responsible for their actions, given agency and liberty, and do not need endless pampering or cosseting to function in society Men's Rights Activism is about raising awareness and addressing a myriad of men's issues. Unfairness in child custody, unacknowledged domestic violence, healthcare, and harmful societal attitudes. The two do not need to go hand-in-hand, as people often assume. Here is a community of over 20,000 anti-feminist women. The community, and the people involved with it, have nothing to do with Men's Rights Activism. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Sidenote: While I, personally, do not identify as an MRA I still respect the movement and wish prosperity onto it. I am not an MRA, for many complex and intricate reasons, but if an MRA group was having a seminar on my campus I'd volunteer to help them set up chairs and lights and put up posters. I would not attend the seminar. I hope that puts things into perspective. Whether or not you will accept it, men do face issues due to their gender and these issues are just as important as women's issues. They deserve a group, a community, and a movement to go about addressing their issues. To blindly bash the MRM and its members is pure bigotry. It's like saying equality is something only women are entitled to pursue. There is a plague that affects both whites and blacks. And a private research group comes forward, claiming that it will only develop a vaccination for the whites. This group will also bomb the headquarters of any other research company who attempts to create a vaccination for any non-white groups. This is what I think of feminists who blindly and vehemently bash the MRM. Both men and women suffer from gender issues (the plague). Both sexes deserve special movements to go about combating their respective issues (research firms developing the vaccine). And feminists constantly harass and censor MRA events (one firm bombing the HQ of the other, believing only one group deserves to be vaccinated). And why is that? because only women deserve to have their gender issues resolved? Why can't the two movements just peacefully go about their business? Fixing their respective end of the gender-issues spectrum? Why must they be inherent enemies? There is no way to justify it. Regardless of whatever spin you put on it. It's hate, plain and simple. Edited September 2, 2014 by Dark Bordeus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVelocar Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) Anti-feminism is the rational notion that women are mature adults, should be held responsible for their actions, given agency and liberty, and do not need endless pampering or cosseting to function in society This rather successfully demonstrates that you don't even know what feminism is, given that your implied opposite of "anti-feminism" is the belief that women are immature children who aren't responsible for their actions, and shouldn't have any agency or liberty of their own. That's comedy gold, given that feminists quite literally spent entire lifetimes trying to prove they were smart enough to own property and vote, as well as the fight to leave the home and do as they wish without a man's approval. Suffragettes? Rational Dress, The bicycle? Do you even history? Like, seriously, you complain that "women's issues" get special attention. You're utterly clueless to the fact "women's issues" are only conspicuous by the way they stick up like a tall nail in a bed of hammered down mens issues. You're the twenty first century version of the moron who sincerely asks when white history month is. The bizarre fable about some sort of pharmaceutical company turf-war is weird, too. It doesn't even work as an analogy, given the only "gender problems" men as a group face are self inflicted, a symptom of buying into the patriarchal nonsense you call masculinity. Men's deodorant smells terrible, but hey, you can't wear the nice women's stuff. People might think you're gay. Call me back when almost every movie you watch limits the men to only discussing the important women characters. This is what I think of feminists who blindly and vehemently bash the MRM. Both men and women suffer from gender issues (the plague). Both sexes deserve special movements to go about combating their respective issues (research firms developing the vaccine). And feminists constantly harass and censor MRA events (one firm bombing the HQ of the other, believing only one group deserves to be vaccinated). And why is that? because only women deserve to have their gender issues resolved? Why can't the two movements just peacefully go about their business? Fixing their respective end of the gender-issues spectrum? Why must they be inherent enemies? I mean, my god, you're seriously asking this after attacking feminism in a thread about how a law is passed to protect rape victims, which is in itself a feminist issue. You have no self awareness whatsoever. Edited September 2, 2014 by LeVelocar Tyler, sivispacem, I cucked Alex Jones and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzknuckles Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Do we really need this? Doesn't it make more sense to just stop raping people? That seems a better way of solving the problems with rape. Just stop raping people. THANKS, I AM HERE TO OFFER GUIDANCE WHENEVER NEEDED YOU ARE WELCOME. Signatures are dumb anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVelocar Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Do we really need this? Doesn't it make more sense to just stop raping people? That seems a better way of solving the problems with rape. Just stop raping people. THANKS, I AM HERE TO OFFER GUIDANCE WHENEVER NEEDED YOU ARE WELCOME. "Hey man, she was asking for it. She didn't meet the arbitrary set of standards I have for who doesn't deserve to be raped. I mean look at her, wearing clothes she likes instead of dressing like a nun, and daring to drink at a public location where drinks are. And besides, it's not like it's basic human decency to not screw people who're too drunk to judge if it's a good idea or not, that'd be crazy. Austin Powers was just a prude." Tyler, sivispacem, blitz and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danz. Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) Do we really need this? Doesn't it make more sense to just stop raping people? That seems a better way of solving the problems with rape. Just stop raping people. THANKS, I AM HERE TO OFFER GUIDANCE WHENEVER NEEDED YOU ARE WELCOME. I still can't understand how a person can have pleasure while inducing pain, angst and horror to the other who's clearly not enjoying it. Such an extreme act of violence is rape. Seriously, to any rational man, including myself in that group, seeing a girl who's not interested in me, who is cold and dry at that time is already a major turn off for me, meaning that I should leave her alone. Why would one force his dirty cock inside something that does not want it there? Edited September 2, 2014 by Danz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moth Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Seriously, to any rational man, including myself in that group, seeing a girl who's not interested in me, who is cold and dry at that time is already a major turn off for me, meaning that I should leave her alone. Why would one force his dirty cock inside something that does not want it there? It's all about having the power to do it. It's not really the sex part that causes rapists to rape, it's the power. Clem Fandango 1 Formerly known as The General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzknuckles Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Do we really need this? Doesn't it make more sense to just stop raping people? That seems a better way of solving the problems with rape. Just stop raping people. THANKS, I AM HERE TO OFFER GUIDANCE WHENEVER NEEDED YOU ARE WELCOME. I still can't understand how a person can have pleasure while inducing pain, angst and horror to the other who's clearly not enjoying it. Such an extreme act of violence is rape. Seriously, to any rational man, including myself in that group, seeing a girl who's not interested in me, who is cold and dry at that time is already a major turn off for me, meaning that I should leave her alone. Why would one force his dirty cock inside something that does not want it there? As Moth said above, it's about power. Control. Domination. Covering up the insecurity of a person that has no power, control or ability to dominate in the rest of their life. In some cases, it's an extension to that power and control that a person already has. Pleasure, sexual pleasure, they don't really come into it. I'm sure there's a fleeting moment of sexual gratification but I would imagine that's rapidly overridden by the buzz of asserting one's dominance. The worst thing is that in the majority of cases, the victim's attacker is someone they know - which makes it all the more personal and abhorrent. Signatures are dumb anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im_stoned Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) Woman have way too much power in this society but they'll be pleased to hear I wont be paying any attention to them, That is after all what they want so i'll grant them that wish. It's sad but what else can you do if you're a man ? Risk being thrown in jail for rape when I didn't even say a bad word to her let alone raise my voice ? It just doesn't seem worth the risk anymore, Meeting woman is supposed to be a fun easy going experience but they ruined that, It's sad but I can't change the way people think the disease has spread to far now, so my main goal is too stay the heck away from these people at all costs. I only associate with human beings that are whiling to help other people not just themselves. For those of you who can relate I assure you their are still people like me out their we just have to find each other If you're a woman who is socially aware of whats going on and don't abuse you're power I aint got a problem with you infact you're the kinda person I want to associate with, I want to make sure I got that point across their are good woman out their but their a rare breed in this social climate unfortunately Edited September 2, 2014 by im_stoned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
make total destroy Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 And the award for the sh*ttiest post of 2014 goes to... Woman have way too much power in this society but they'll be pleased to hear I wont be paying any attention to them, That is after all what they want so i'll grant them that wish. It's sad but what else can you do if you're a man ? Risk being thrown in jail for rape when I didn't even say a bad word to her let alone raise my voice ? It just doesn't seem worth the risk anymore, Meeting woman is supposed to be a fun easy going experience but they ruined that,It's sad but I can't change the way people think the disease has spread to far now, so my main goal is too stay the heck away from these people at all costs.I only associate with human beings that are whiling to help other people not just themselves. For those of you who can relate I assure you their are still people like me out their we just have to find each otherIf you're a woman who is socially aware of whats going on and don't abuse you're power I aint got a problem with you infact you're the kinda person I want to associate with, I want to make sure I got that point across their are good woman out their but their a rare breed in this social climate unfortunately Femme Fatale, Moonshield, Mr. House and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Woman have way too much power in this societyAnd at this point I imagine most people stopped listening.Instead, I'll simply ask "why"? D- Ice and make total destroy 2 AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVelocar Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Woman have way too much power in this society but they'll be pleased to hear I wont be paying any attention to them, That is after all what they want so i'll grant them that wish. It's sad but what else can you do if you're a man ? Risk being thrown in jail for rape when I didn't even say a bad word to her let alone raise my voice ? It just doesn't seem worth the risk anymore, Meeting woman is supposed to be a fun easy going experience but they ruined that, It's sad but I can't change the way people think the disease has spread to far now, so my main goal is too stay the heck away from these people at all costs. I only associate with human beings that are whiling to help other people not just themselves. For those of you who can relate I assure you their are still people like me out their we just have to find each other If you're a woman who is socially aware of whats going on and don't abuse you're power I aint got a problem with you infact you're the kinda person I want to associate with, I want to make sure I got that point across their are good woman out their but their a rare breed in this social climate unfortunately The liberated men, women, and everyone inbetween of western society join hands in celebration that someone as deluded and hateful as you chooses self isolation. Get the bunting out, everyone, an MRA has agreed not to bother us any more. Mr. House 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Demigod Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) Woman have way too much power in this society And at this point I imagine most people stopped listening.Instead, I'll simply ask "why"? Men may have economic/political power, seeing as they dominate as presidents and CEOs and such. But social power is largely in the favour of women. Let's not kid ourselves. I could give you a massive textwall proving that. But I don't have as much time as I'd like now that school is starting up again. Let me give you a small dose. We'll play a game called "add a vagina" What is gynocentrism? I’ve been asked this question many times, so I figure I may as well pre-write a response so next time someone asks me I’ll just send them this. Gynocentrism is a concept that applies to and is exercised in all developed/modern societies. You will see it in the first world (North America, Europe, parts of Asia, etc.) but you will not see it in the developing world (Yemen, Pakistan, etc.) A gynocentric society is a society where the happiness, prosperity, well-being, safety, and success of women takes precedence over everything else. It is a society where bonus respect, pampering, and cosseting of women is considered the default baseline. Granting extra bonuses to women is the expectation, not an initiative. Doing so will not be met with commendation, but refusing to do so will be met with hostility. You can take it back to childhood, when mothers are told to “teach their sons to respect women” but girls are never told to respect men. When “that’s not how you treat a lady!” is commonplace. But there’s more to it than that. Let’s look at a bunch of examples. We’ll start off with healthcare funding. The amount of prostate cancer victims is roughly equal to breast cancer victims, but breast cancer receives tremendous amounts of more funding. There also a litany of other issues in the healthcare field. Men die 7 years sooner than women. Men commit suicide at a rate x5 than that of women. This imbalance, this natural gravitation to give more to the women is default in society. It is inherent. Doing it is the normal, and not doing it is the deviation. This is why the gender imbalance in cancer funding is not a universally known issue constantly talked about. If it was the other way around, it would be. A gynocentric society is one where the president and his wife can crudely utter “Women are smarter than men!” and the entire world will cheer along. But saying the reverse will be a public death sentence. A gynocentric society is one where a woman making a small-penis joke on national television causes the entire world to laugh along at that man’s expense. But making a fat joke is a character assassination and turns you into a misogynistic body shamer who objectifies women. There's also the glaring gender bias in criminal court. Which has already been spoken about. If you live in Canada, you may know about this http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2014/08/22/aboriginal_men_murdered_at_higher_rate_than_aboriginal_women.html Aboriginal men being murdered more than women. But the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) only creates an initiative to investigate aboriginal hate crimes against women and girls. This type of bigotry was seen as acceptable. The RCMP refused to compile statistics on aboriginal men. And despite pressure from Men’s Rights Groups no changes were made. You know that if the roles were reversed, the decision of the RCMP to exclude women and girls to investigate something about men and boys would be tarnished on a grand scale that involved every President and his dog. In recent news, a religious extremist group called the Boko Haram kidnapped a few hundreds Nigerian girls for the sex slave trade. It caused global outrage, with countless AAA celebrities and marches and movements jumping out of the woodwork with the phrase “bring back our girls!” This is good and all, as I do wish for the safe return of the girls involved. However, I had to ask myself “why the hell is the world intervening now?” Before the Boko Haram did their main kidnapping, they stormed a school. Boys, and exclusively young boys, were burnt alive or had their throats slit. The girls were told to go home and get married. No outrage. No hashtag that says “avenge our boys”. Something tells me if the Boko Haram continued going around, killing exclusively boys, the western world still wouldn’t know about it. It only got press coverage and global acknowledgement because girls were sold into the sex trade. After the sex-kidnapping incident, the Boko Haram stormed a village and killedexclusively men. No outrage, no appearance on world news, no hashtag…nothing. A gynocentric society is one where violent crime from men onto women goes under the evening news as a tragic event. But violent crime from women onto men goes on the morning shows as a story of comedy. Further evidence of gynocentrism can be seen in how the world views the landscape of gender issues. Both men and women have problems. Both groups deserve to create subcultures that are devoted to solving their problems. Feminism exists to solve the issues of women. And look how it prospers. Feminism is a globally recognized, politically backed, universally respected, and financially powerful movement that constantly hits the airwaves. Claiming to be a feminist makes one look like progressive, intelligent, individual and a visionary. Universities and colleges are practically obligated to have a student group for feminism on their campus. And let’s look at Men’s Rights. The movement is hated, scorned, censored, and struggles to find financial backing. Its members have their character assassinated or suffer endless vitriol. You may utter “but the MRM is full of misogyny!!” but then you’d be failing to acknowledge the fact you are basing your understanding on the actions of a few vocal members that do not speak for the entire movement or what its values stand for. If that’s the logic you want to apply, then you should also reject feminism. For it is no better in that regard, as seen by the fact that feminist leaders have all been vehement misandrists. A television presenter said something negative about your gender? Expect him/her to have their career tarnished and ruined. ADD A VAGINA- now that person will face no consequence. Do you want your president to openly admit that your gender is the smarter one? Do you think this will occur without massive controversy or backlash? Not going to happen, mate. ADD A VAGINA- ! Oh, and the First Lady gets away with it too. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/08/06/Michelle-Obama-Women-Are-Smarter-Than-Men Are you being abused by your partner? You’re screwed. Prepare to not be taken seriously, get laughed at, or have your entire plight flipped on its head when your partner turns the blame onto you and it becomes a “her word over his” debacle. You have practically no resources dedicated to your well-being in relationships and society as a whole will turn a blind eye to you. Provocation, self-defense, retaliation, the circumstances don’t matter. You hit her and now you will pay. ADD A VAGINA- The words “he hit me” now give you unbridled and excessive power. You have hundreds of shelters, government statutes and policies, and societal favour in your aid. Everyone will rush to your help immediately and you will almost certainly receive an endless amount of sympathy and care and the entire abuse issue will be in your favour. Provocation, self-defense, retaliation, the circumstances don’t matter. You were hit and now your partner will pay. Commit a crime? Prepare to face the harsh arm of the law in full force, motherf*cker! ADD A VAGINA- It’s okay sweetie, you’re a woman and therefore inherently an angel that can never have ill intentions and you are not a true wrongdoer. Here, have a significantly reduced sentence. Finding a seat on a plane? Don’t sit next to a child, because some airlines are so barbaric that they view your entire sex as a natural predator who should not be allowed to sit next to children. Despite all the statistics on female-perpetrators of child abuse. ADD A VAGINA- No problem, honey, sit wherever you want. Want to discuss the issues your gender faces without having your character assassinated, being ridiculed by society, being stereotyped, laughed at, and not taken seriously? Want to assemble a group for your gender issues without having to struggle to get funding, constantly be threatened with closure, and facing hard taxes to your free speech? Want to sustain your gender-issues group with good media coverage and a steady stream of positive support? Nope, not going to happen. ADD A VAGINA- Hey presto. Now you have a globally recognized, universally respected, politically backed, well-funded, movement known as feminism. You have endless support, dominate the airwaves, and can have anything that you deem is against women decimated at the snap of your fingers. You have the ability to simply yell “sexism!” and “misogyny!” and trigger a massive firestorm of change. If you’re a celebrity and you call yourself a feminist you will be seen as a progressive visionary who is amazing. Every modern college campus will have a group dedicated to your issues, and it would be disgusting to not have one. You have a massive, financially strong, private military known as feminism to fight for your problems. Is your gender facing issues? Men in the UK die four years sooner than women. 12 men each day take their own lives. 90% of rough sleepers are men. Girls are outperforming boys at every stage of education. Women are 1/3 more likely to go to university than men. Young men account for 70% of long-term unemployment. Male graduates are 50% more likely to be unemployed. Men in their 20s earn less than their female peers. Men accounted for 84% of suicides linked to the recession. Do you want these to be addressed? Nope, not going to happen. Prepare for no one giving a f*ck. ADD A VAGINA- Now that women and girls are facing the above issues, society is actually going to care and create an international day for these! Show your support for women by wearing a [colour] ribbon on [day] to raise awareness for [women’s issue]! I once decided to define gynocentrism and gynosympathy in my own words. A gynocentric society is one that places the happiness and well-being of women over everything else. Society doesn’t give a f*ck about men, but gives 1000 f*cks about women. Gynosympathy means women always get our support and sympathy regardless of circumstance. When a woman does a crime, it’s because she suffered at the hands of abusive men and that altered her ability to think logically. When a woman slips and falls, it is society’s fault. When a man slips and falls it is his own fault. Man hits woman = Outrage Woman hits man = you go girl! Woman spikes man’s drink, no problem. Man spike’s woman’s drink, die rapist pig! Woman pickpockets man, no reaction. Man pickpockets woman, outrage. Woman steals from homeless, no reaction. Man steals from homeless, reaction. Note: There's also how the world reacts to the advertising problem. I challenge all of you feminists to find me a television commercial where - a woman is physically attacked by a man - a woman is physically attacked by multiple men - a woman is forcefully stripped by men - a man is in a position of power of multiple women, looking at them in condescension - a woman hurting herself in the presence of men is seen as funny All you can bring up is "this woman is being sexually objectified!" And this as well. There are much more, but like I said I don't have the time to fully form this reponse. So do not reply to it wth "ahhhh it's weak!!!". It's not done yet. It's still in the cacoon, so it's still weak. When my involvement in university education takes a break I will return to prove it all. Edited September 2, 2014 by Dark Bordeus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. House Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 To stupid; didn't read chainsoar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
make total destroy Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Sweet copy pasta Mr. House 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Brown Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 To stupid; didn't read Don't give him the satisfaction of irony, damnit. GTA_stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Demigod Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 To stupid; didn't read Don't give him the satisfaction of irony, damnit. Lol, he gave me the satisfaction of irony looong ago with the stupidity of his earlier posts. im_stoned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Fandango Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) I stopped reading when you implied that Japan and South Korea are anything but patriarchal. Edited September 3, 2014 by Melchior make total destroy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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