Max Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 If you don't think being a straight white man affords you social advantages then you're in denial. I cucked Alex Jones, make total destroy, Frank Brown and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Brown Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Relevant: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Demigod Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) If you don't think being a straight white man affords you social advantages then you're in denial. I'm not white, dude. I do agree that being a straight white male in a country like the US gives you unearned privilege. But at the same let's not pretend like being a woman is devoid of unearned privilege as well. And if you were to compare the list of "white male privilege" to "white female privilege" side by side, you would see that they are similar in both length and strength. They just manifest themself in different aspects of life. Straight white males get preferential treatment in corporate promotions, whereas females have it much better in social norms and societal attitudes. Men can receive a positive-bias when taking on business environments , whereas women are under-sentenced for every crime. But on the topic of non-white gender privilege, I in fact I have many real-life scenarios which I have experienced first hand where being a non-white female is a better position than being a non-white male. There's literally no point in debating people like you. I mean, for one, you actually think MRA is a real-life movement with real-life goals--lol. And two, you'll just cling to whatever strand of circumstantial evidence that best supports your ass-backwards narrative. I'd rather just hit you over the head with a bat. Good, continue to resort to petty insults and slander instead of actually saying something meaningful You just prove my point with every post you make, and put another nail into your feminist coffin. I gave you chances to actually justify your position and instead of being a good person you've just proven you're no different from those Bra-burning, hairy-armpit, radfems. You are one of those tumblr feminazi misandrists. Someone who blindly supports the world's stupidest ideology and cowers behind insults when exposed to logic. There's no point trying to give counseling to people like you. You are forever-stuck in Lollypop Land and you think that feminism is a positive thing. Get help, though. I'm saying this is all seriousness. See a counselor at your school, or something. I don't have a degree in social work or anything like that so its better I outsource this to people who can handle it. Don't feed your mind to this toxic ideology anymore. But hey, I'm really wasting my time trying to heal you. I'd rather just ram the bat up your c*nt, lol. Don't bother replying to this unless you're going to get psychiatric help first. I've wasted enough time on you, and I need to get back to Bolateria soon. Playing Demon's Souls is infinitely more interesting than trying to enlighten and help a misguided young woman who has devoted her life to something truly very sad. Get help, soon, kid. I'm serious. Not internet serious but actual serious. You could be so much more if you just shed your affiliations to this gender-biased fascist hate group you support. Edited August 30, 2014 by Dark Bordeus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
make total destroy Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) misogynist says what There's no point trying to give counseling to people like you.. See a counselor at your school, or something. Just gonna point this out for lulz Edited August 30, 2014 by ShootPeopleNotDope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 So, let's hear all about this "female privilege" then? Just not in this topic. Try the existing one on feminism. Let's keep this one actually discussing the legislation and try and avoid descending into trolling or name-calling. AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coin Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Regretting having had sex and crying rape is really f*cking low btw. "Wraaaagh I have a hangover, and to make things worse those cute guys that gang banged me actually turned out to be a filthy group of neck beards. Damn my poor judgement whilst inebriated. I don't wanna seem like I voluntarily slutted myself out and slept with those losers though so I'll just claim they raped me". f*cking bitches. This very scenario has happened to two of my mates over the years. Neither ended up being convicted, fortunately, but their lives were made rather difficult for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Demigod Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) So, let's hear all about this "female privilege" then? Just not in this topic. Try the existing one on feminism. Let's keep this one actually discussing the legislation and try and avoid descending into trolling or name-calling. Can you link me to that existing topic on feminism. I used the search function but couldn't find it. Oh, and you were asking to "hear all about it". I'll let you know when I put my female privilege post in the thread. But in the meantime, since you're in the UK, you can enjoy this. This very scenario has happened to two of my mates over the years. Neither ended up being convicted, fortunately, but their lives were made rather difficult for a while. Precisely. A false-rape accusation does not need to end in formal legal consequence in order to be devastating. The social stigmata and character assassination alone are enough. Nelson’s first accusation says she was raped in 2009 on her way to prom. She told police her date cut her with a knife and raped her before the dance. However, an investigation found she suffered no cuts on the night of her prom and she stayed at the dance for the entirety of the event. One month later, Nelson said she wanted to drop the charges against the boy, but the damage was already done – her alleged rapist had been expelled from school and moved out of the state with his family due to shaming and embarrassment. http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/crime/montana-woman-accused-repeatedly-making-false-rape-accusations Edited August 31, 2014 by Dark Bordeus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absurdity Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 More legislation from the ruling authority that treats women as if they were toddlers uncountable for their own actions. Then granting those same toddlers authority over others. Good job undermining women as self authoritative human beings and undermining the victims of genuine rape. a20characterusername 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. House Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) Maybe I'm getting myopic in my old age, but I could swear neither the article about the bill nor the bill itself mentions anything about specifically being for the protection of a certain gender. Funny, that Or for that matter, sexual orientation. Edited August 31, 2014 by Myron Clem Fandango and make total destroy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinPA Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Precisely. A false-rape accusation does not need to end in formal legal consequence in order to be devastating. The social stigmata and character assassination alone are enough. It could be worse. An American actor from The Cosby Show and The Steve Harvey Show was murdered when a girl falsely claimed he raped her. Her boyfriend shot him dead, he went to prison and she was also in legal trouble because of it. Three lives wasted, it's sad really. This new law's name is a bit misleading. D- Ice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mv6 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Thanks Sacramento.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVelocar Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) I'm glad California clarified that boinking someone too drunk to communicate is rape. On top of helping to counteract the pathetically low conviction rate for rape, it also provides a delicious treat. Edited August 31, 2014 by LeVelocar make total destroy and Clem Fandango 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twang. Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Whatever happened to "the government has no place in the bedroom?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. House Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Whatever happened to "the government has no place in the bedroom?" It never existed in the first place, but that is irrelevant considering that piece of rhetoric relates to consensual relationships between adults, not in relation to a possible crime. make total destroy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twang. Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Whatever happened to "the government has no place in the bedroom?" It never existed in the first place, but that is irrelevant considering that piece of rhetoric relates to consensual relationships between adults, not in relation to a possible crime.But what if no crime has been committed? What if it's just two people making bad decisions together? The biggest problem here is that two people are guilty but only one gets charged for it, then the other gets treated like a child with a boo boo. If consuming alcohol negates your ability to consent, why not just ban intoxicated intercourse outright and stop pretending people have rights? D- Ice, a20characterusername and Smith John 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rabbit Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Precisely. A false-rape accusation does not need to end in formal legal consequence in order to be devastating. The social stigmata and character assassination alone are enough. It could be worse. An American actor from The Cosby Show and The Steve Harvey Show was murdered when a girl falsely claimed he raped her. Her boyfriend shot him dead, he went to prison and she was also in legal trouble because of it. Three lives wasted, it's sad really. This new law's name is a bit misleading. It is misleading I thought it was meaning if you are pissed out of your skull and said yes then no rape, kinda the opposite really, whatever f*cknugget named this bill should not name anythign ever again, probably has a daughter called Bruce and a son called Daisy, and on his track record of naming things named his childhood lemonade stand ''burgers N bullets'' with a backwards 'N' DarrinPA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith John Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Whatever happened to "the government has no place in the bedroom?" It never existed in the first place, but that is irrelevant considering that piece of rhetoric relates to consensual relationships between adults, not in relation to a possible crime.But what if no crime has been committed? What if it's just two people making bad decisions together? The biggest problem here is that two people are guilty but only one gets charged for it, then the other gets treated like a child with a boo boo. If consuming alcohol negates your ability to consent, why not just ban intoxicated intercourse outright and stop pretending people have rights? Hell, the best course of action would be to outright sanction a veto on intoxication all together! bash the fash m8s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Demigod Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) If consuming alcohol negates your ability to consent, why not just ban intoxicated intercourse outright and stop pretending people have rights? What if the man is drunk as well? Is he not abolished of responsibility? Being drunk means you're too inebriated to consent... Does being drunk mean you're too inebriated to ask for consent and process an acceptance/denial of consent? Coming back to your question, if a man and a woman had sex while both were drunk, and both regretted it the next morning and wanted to file complaints, historically law enforcement would only take a woman's complaint seriously...and only the man would be subject to prosecution. Society treats this the same way as well. Think of all the movies where a guy gets drunk, has sex with a woman, wakes up the next morning and is horrified by who he slept with. It's treated as a bad choice. Edited August 31, 2014 by Dark Bordeus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEoS Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 I think you guys are turning this into a false rape allegation discussion, when I'm pretty sure the intent of the law is to make predatory, non-brute force sexual assault easier to prosecute. The idea that a woman who gets really drunk deserves to have 5 frat bros' dicks jammed in her is pretty disgusting, I hope that's not what people are implying here. I don't think it really matters in the end anyway, because it will still come down to a he-said-she-said scenario in court, and when it's just the word of the 2 involved parties, reasonable doubt is a pretty tough hurdle to jump. No one likes false rape or morning-after-regret allegations, but that doesn't mean we can't work to improve how sexual assaults are handled. Maybe this new bill is a hamfisted attempt at solving the sexual assault problem, and if people have better solutions I'd love to hear them. I'm also sympathetic to the damage done to those who have been falsely accused, but I think that's a separate issue with how the media (and society at large) drags suspects through the mud before they are convicted. However, if you're bothered by this because it's going to kill your sex life, perhaps you need to take a step back and evaluate your life. Moonshield, I cucked Alex Jones, make total destroy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtamann123 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) Then who, you? There's a world of difference between regretting a poor judgement call and being violently and forcibly attacked. All sh*t like this does is further broaden the definition of the word. The victim. Date rape is committed without violence, is it therefore not rape? Two drunken kids hooking up and then in the morning when the girl wakes up and realizes she had sex with an obese pizza faced motherf*cker so she's going to cry rape in an effort to avoid having her reputation tarnished is not date rape. It was just a drunken mistake. One of the reasons I'm glad I will never have an opportunity to date a woman. If she gets mad at you for whatever reason she can snap her fingers and send you to jail in a matter of hours. Edited September 1, 2014 by gtamann123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payne Killer Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 So rape is now legal in California. WTF. Femme Fatale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtamann123 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) So rape is now legal in California. WTF. No, By the looks of it The law just means that a girl can't consent to having sex with a man and then turn around and say she was raped because she was unsatisfied or is afraid of being labeled as a floozy. As long as she was sober ^After looking closer at the article it doesn't have anything to do with this. But it also clarifies new protections as well. It's kind of a two way street bill and is kind of confusing. Like K^2 said on the first page it kind of makes it sound like if two drunken people have sex then they are both guilty of rape. Edited September 1, 2014 by gtamann123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payne Killer Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 So rape is now legal in California. WTF. No, By the looks of it The law just means that a girl can't consent to having sex with a man and then turn around and say she was raped because she was unsatisfied or is afraid of being labeled as a floozy. As long as she was sober But it also clarifies new protections as well. It's kind of a two way street bill and is kind of confusing. Like K^2 said on the first page it kind of makes it sound like if two drunken people have sex then they are both guilty of rape. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtamann123 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 So rape is now legal in California. WTF. No, By the looks of it The law just means that a girl can't consent to having sex with a man and then turn around and say she was raped because she was unsatisfied or is afraid of being labeled as a floozy. As long as she was sober But it also clarifies new protections as well. It's kind of a two way street bill and is kind of confusing. Like K^2 said on the first page it kind of makes it sound like if two drunken people have sex then they are both guilty of rape. Wow. Most of it seems to be tightening the definition of rape as well. And forcing colleges to adopt stricter policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. House Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 So rape is now legal in California. WTF. I think you're totally misunderstanding here. In this instance 'yes means yes' means consent has to actively be given as opposed to assuming consent when a person doesn't explicitly say no to sex. LightningLord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payne Killer Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 So rape is now legal in California. WTF. I think you're totally misunderstanding here. In this instance 'yes means yes' means consent has to actively be given as opposed to assuming consent when a person doesn't explicitly say no to sex.Ah, OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a20characterusername Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) Then who, you? There's a world of difference between regretting a poor judgement call and being violently and forcibly attacked. All sh*t like this does is further broaden the definition of the word. The victim. Date rape is committed without violence, is it therefore not rape? Sorry for the late reply, missed this. If we're talking about people slipping sh*t into drinks or having sex with someone while they're passed out (or close to it), then I 100% agree. But I'm talking about two people having consensual sex and one of them later regretting because they had a few drinks and let their hair down a bit more than they normally would've sober. If someone regrets having sex with someone they otherwise wouldn't have due to lowered inhibitions, then who's responsible for that? Unless their drinks were spiked, what a person drinks is their responsibility. it's not as if people can't control themselves or their urges while drunk, that goes for both men and women. If people start counting regrettable, yet consensual sexual encounters as rape, then pretty much everyone who's ever been to a few parties or concerts or had an affair or just plain bad sex is a 'victim'. I know that the bill in the OP isn't talking about anything like that, but it seems to be the mindset in certain circles, most notably the tumblr/internet SJW crowd. Edited September 1, 2014 by gtarelatedusername2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. House Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 False accusations are statistically rare and usually don't result in a conviction anyway. Even so, that's a judicial issue, not legislative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitz Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 As a girl, claiming false rape is really f*cking low. I can't even imagine what state of mind a person has to be in, in order to falsely accuse someone of something like that and borderline ruin their life by having them listed as sex offenders. Now, what I'm not okay with is actual rape cases being undermined, or rapists walking around thinking they're some sort of hot sh*t alpha macho Charlie Sheen cumpuddle that can just have non-consensual sex with whomever they like. Don't stick your dicks in crazy, guys. And don't stick your dicks in places you're not welcome in. Coin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Brown Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 some sort of hot sh*t alpha macho Charlie Sheen cumpuddle Can I use that? blitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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