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Do you REALLY want the Hydra?


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Well apart from the fact that I simply want a second fighter jet, it would be good for hit and runs and isn't designed to hover around and shoot people because that has a disadvantage, of course. Anyone who thinks the point of a VTOL aircraft is to have an easier time engaging ground targets is retarded. If it'll have any "combat" advantages, it'll be in dogfights against Lazers since it would have a better turning arc.

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I'd be fine with a heat-seeking rocket being added, as long as it was GUARANTEED to hit and destroy the target. In exchange, make them expensive. I don't care if it costs 50k per rocket. In fact, that would probably be good. It would add SOME form of balance between choosing to grief with a Jet, choosing to use a rocket to shoot down that Jet, or go old-fashioned and try to snipe it if 50k is too rich for you.

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L0SS4NT0SK1LL3RV

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, I REALLY want the Hydra. Anything that could compete the Lazer would be a great addition to dog fighting in GTAO. Plus I just love Harriers and besides from what I can tell, the Hydra isn't going to be a subsonic attack jet like the AV-8b. However no matter how or where I look at it, I still can't spot cannons on the thing. I'm not really worried about this when it comes to Air-to-Ground assaults. It should still be able to duel fire rockets in quick succession as it did in SA making Air-to-Ground a non-issue. On the flip side I'm curious to see how it handles Air-to-Air without cannon fire. Maybe it will be able to quickly fire duel locked on rockets making a it a bitch to deal with. But you really can't replace a jets cannons with more rockets. We'll just have to wait and see. Maybe it will have cannon, maybe perhaps not explosive but cannons are always better than no cannons. You can't really have a fighter jet without them.

 

By the way for all you people worried about more jets in GTAO. Just buy your own jet when they come out. Nuclear deterrence won the cold war and now you can too! Buy a jet and win the war on griefing today!

For those interest in getting good or if you just want to be competitive with your dog fighting skills. I'll be creating a elite fighter squadron and crew on the PS3 for GTAO. Keep a look out for me on the forms and i'll be sure to

drop some more details when i'm active again.

didnt read it all but what i think you think is a hydra is a beta vehicle called vulkan (from piecing together strings relating to a jet called vulkan), and the hydra is probably going to be very different, but it is going to be a vertical take off vehicle for sure

Excuse me but please don't be so quick to dismiss what i'm saying. What reason do you have to believe that the jet i'm referring to is in fact not the new Hydra?

just look up all the things vulkan relates to from the forums and you'll find that it is a vehicle with hover mode, cannons, and rockets. there is also no strings relating to a hydra outside of recently added ones, but the vulkan things have been there forever. by this logic i can assume that the hydra wont look like the jet in the first and second trailer, since it has only recently been mentioned in the game's internal hashes and strings

There's a issue with your claim. As you have stated the Vulkan not only has VTOL and rockets but it also has cannons. This is the issue with your claim that the jet shown in GTAV trailers 1 & 2 is the Vulkan. The jet that is shown in GTAV trailers 1 & 2 can not be confirmed for having cannons and has no name officially tied to it as of yet. Given how past GTA vehicles like the Hotknife and other cars have been redesign for GTAV I wouldn't dismiss the unnamed aircraft shown in GTAV trailers 1 & 2 just yet.

 

 

 

Also, thank you Pizentu.

plausible, but just to play devil's advocate, i think i can see cannons on the bottom of the fuselage

i can see 2 holes, which are either a graphical glitch on all good photos i found, or actual design

gta5jettrailer.jpgactually no those are definitely cannons

 

Sorry sir, but this is not the Hydra, this is the cut fighter jet called Vulkan, you can see it in some audio files for cut vehicles, the Hydra will be a totally new aircraft to the game just like the Besra.

 

If you don't want a Hydra, then you must not be a very fun person to be around.

 

 

 

There is something seriously wrong with anybody who doesn't want to fly a VTOL around a city as detailed as Los Santos. Only in this game do you have the opportunity to fly an F-35B/Harrier crossbreed (totally guessing) around a city that is made out of more than just paper mache (as cities in other jet games are), without the potential consequence of fiery death you would face in real life.

Exactly! People in this forums are so negative, if at least they had to pay for DLCs they would have motives for complaining about, IT'S f*ckING FREE use it if you want, if you don't want it no one cares.

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I'd be fine with a heat-seeking rocket being added, as long as it was GUARANTEED to hit and destroy the target. In exchange, make them expensive. I don't care if it costs 50k per rocket. In fact, that would probably be good. It would add SOME form of balance between choosing to grief with a Jet, choosing to use a rocket to shoot down that Jet, or go old-fashioned and try to snipe it if 50k is too rich for you.

 

50k to fire a rocket? Are you f*cking nuts? You shouldn't have to pay at all, balancing is tweeking the performance of weaponry, not essentially paying 50k to destroy another jet. Not to mention heat-seeking missiles are never "guaranteed" to hit and destroy their targets, you'll need a correct approach and that's not accounting for any manuevers your target does. I'll also remind you that when people grief, they attack people on the ground and when someone attacks another person on the ground in a Lazer, they use their cannons. No one ever uses missiles to shoot people on the ground unless they're retarded and shooting other planes down can barely be considered griefing as it can only happen once every 2 minutes at most.

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It just doesn't make sense to me from anything but a nostalgia stand point. What good would it really do in this game? It'll be chopped liver for anyone with a Lazer, Buzzard, RPG or sniper rifle. Hovering offers no advantage to combat, just makes you a sitting duck. If it were as easy to control as a helicopter, it would be over powered. Even then, you have the buzzard already, so what's the point? I just don't get what real benefit the hydra would have to choose it over a buzzard or a Lazer. Landing on rooftops, maybe? But man, you sure are an easy target when you're hovering.

I just want to take a quote from you in your post.... "I just don't get what real benefit the hydra would have to choose it over a buzzard or a Lazer"

 

You basically just answered your own question... the fact that you need to include BOTH of those (buzzard and lazer) just goes to show how awesome the Hydra would be. It would basically be a combination of both the lazer and buzzard...... why have to choose between the buzzard OR the lazer when you can have both in ONE vehicle.......

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I'd prefer a rustler or Nevada (or Titan update that let's you carry vehicles in them), but the Hydra would be cool too.

 

I honestly don't think the VTOL hovering is intended for combat. It's vertical *takeoff and landing* not "jet powered hovering executioner." I'm sure many will use it that way, and get plenty of Hydras sent to the scrapyard in the process.

It's main appeal (for me anyway) would be having a Lazer type plane that can be landed/hidden almost anywhere.

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So what is it going to be, AV-8B Harrier II or F-35B Lightning II? Just for let you know the Harrier is planned to get replaced by the F-35 soon on real life Marines.

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Yes, I REALLY want the Hydra. Anything that could compete the Lazer would be a great addition to dog fighting in GTAO. Plus I just love Harriers and besides from what I can tell, the Hydra isn't going to be a subsonic attack jet like the AV-8b. However no matter how or where I look at it, I still can't spot cannons on the thing. I'm not really worried about this when it comes to Air-to-Ground assaults. It should still be able to duel fire rockets in quick succession as it did in SA making Air-to-Ground a non-issue. On the flip side I'm curious to see how it handles Air-to-Air without cannon fire. Maybe it will be able to quickly fire duel locked on rockets making a it a bitch to deal with. But you really can't replace a jets cannons with more rockets. We'll just have to wait and see. Maybe it will have cannon, maybe perhaps not explosive but cannons are always better than no cannons. You can't really have a fighter jet without them.

 

By the way for all you people worried about more jets in GTAO. Just buy your own jet when they come out. Nuclear deterrence won the cold war and now you can too! Buy a jet and win the war on griefing today!

For those interest in getting good or if you just want to be competitive with your dog fighting skills. I'll be creating a elite fighter squadron and crew on the PS3 for GTAO. Keep a look out for me on the forms and i'll be sure to

drop some more details when i'm active again.

didnt read it all but what i think you think is a hydra is a beta vehicle called vulkan (from piecing together strings relating to a jet called vulkan), and the hydra is probably going to be very different, but it is going to be a vertical take off vehicle for sure

Excuse me but please don't be so quick to dismiss what i'm saying. What reason do you have to believe that the jet i'm referring to is in fact not the new Hydra?

just look up all the things vulkan relates to from the forums and you'll find that it is a vehicle with hover mode, cannons, and rockets. there is also no strings relating to a hydra outside of recently added ones, but the vulkan things have been there forever. by this logic i can assume that the hydra wont look like the jet in the first and second trailer, since it has only recently been mentioned in the game's internal hashes and strings

There's a issue with your claim. As you have stated the Vulkan not only has VTOL and rockets but it also has cannons. This is the issue with your claim that the jet shown in GTAV trailers 1 & 2 is the Vulkan. The jet that is shown in GTAV trailers 1 & 2 can not be confirmed for having cannons and has no name officially tied to it as of yet. Given how past GTA vehicles like the Hotknife and other cars have been redesign for GTAV I wouldn't dismiss the unnamed aircraft shown in GTAV trailers 1 & 2 just yet.

 

 

 

Also, thank you Pizentu.

plausible, but just to play devil's advocate, i think i can see cannons on the bottom of the fuselage

i can see 2 holes, which are either a graphical glitch on all good photos i found, or actual design

gta5jettrailer.jpgactually no those are definitely cannons

 

Sorry sir, but this is not the Hydra, this is the cut fighter jet called Vulkan, you can see it in some audio files for cut vehicles, the Hydra will be a totally new aircraft to the game just like the Besra.

u have got to be kidding me , DON'T TELL ME THAT HYDRA WILL BE ANOTHER LAME JET AGAIN LIKE BESRA ??? or R* just intentionally replace hydra's VTOL role as '' vulkan ''

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So what is it going to be, AV-8B Harrier II or F-35B Lightning II? Just for let you know the Harrier is planned to get replaced by the F-35 soon on real life Marines.

 

"On real-life Marines"? What is that, a soap? The Lazer is a mix of the F-35B to begin with, in case you didn't notice.

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How would it be chopped live to a lazer? hovering would mean you could hover in the air and shooting down at people below with the explosive round than switching to flight and shooting down a lazer and just the look of it would look cool and the switch and hovering animation havent seen it since old consoles

Sine it's so much like a heli in performance it would extremely unlikely use explosive rounds.

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Don't care one bit about it.

Why are you reading this thread then?

 

Because OP asked

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Yes, I REALLY want the Hydra. Anything that could compete the Lazer would be a great addition to dog fighting in GTAO. Plus I just love Harriers and besides from what I can tell, the Hydra isn't going to be a subsonic attack jet like the AV-8b. However no matter how or where I look at it, I still can't spot cannons on the thing. I'm not really worried about this when it comes to Air-to-Ground assaults. It should still be able to duel fire rockets in quick succession as it did in SA making Air-to-Ground a non-issue. On the flip side I'm curious to see how it handles Air-to-Air without cannon fire. Maybe it will be able to quickly fire duel locked on rockets making a it a bitch to deal with. But you really can't replace a jets cannons with more rockets. We'll just have to wait and see. Maybe it will have cannon, maybe perhaps not explosive but cannons are always better than no cannons. You can't really have a fighter jet without them.

 

By the way for all you people worried about more jets in GTAO. Just buy your own jet when they come out. Nuclear deterrence won the cold war and now you can too! Buy a jet and win the war on griefing today!

For those interest in getting good or if you just want to be competitive with your dog fighting skills. I'll be creating a elite fighter squadron and crew on the PS3 for GTAO. Keep a look out for me on the forms and i'll be sure to

drop some more details when i'm active again.

 

didnt read it all but what i think you think is a hydra is a beta vehicle called vulkan (from piecing together strings relating to a jet called vulkan), and the hydra is probably going to be very different, but it is going to be a vertical take off vehicle for sure

Excuse me but please don't be so quick to dismiss what i'm saying. What reason do you have to believe that the jet i'm referring to is in fact not the new Hydra?

just look up all the things vulkan relates to from the forums and you'll find that it is a vehicle with hover mode, cannons, and rockets. there is also no strings relating to a hydra outside of recently added ones, but the vulkan things have been there forever. by this logic i can assume that the hydra wont look like the jet in the first and second trailer, since it has only recently been mentioned in the game's internal hashes and strings

There's a issue with your claim. As you have stated the Vulkan not only has VTOL and rockets but it also has cannons. This is the issue with your claim that the jet shown in GTAV trailers 1 & 2 is the Vulkan. The jet that is shown in GTAV trailers 1 & 2 can not be confirmed for having cannons and has no name officially tied to it as of yet. Given how past GTA vehicles like the Hotknife and other cars have been redesign for GTAV I wouldn't dismiss the unnamed aircraft shown in GTAV trailers 1 & 2 just yet.

 

 

 

Also, thank you Pizentu.

plausible, but just to play devil's advocate, i think i can see cannons on the bottom of the fuselage

i can see 2 holes, which are either a graphical glitch on all good photos i found, or actual designgta5jettrailer.jpgactually no those are definitely cannons

 

Sorry sir, but this is not the Hydra, this is the cut fighter jet called Vulkan, you can see it in some audio files for cut vehicles, the Hydra will be a totally new aircraft to the game just like the Besra.quote trains but wudeva your point is my point exactly and once i brought it up on another thread people went ohhhhh now i know
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u have got to be kidding me , DON'T TELL ME THAT HYDRA WILL BE ANOTHER LAME JET AGAIN LIKE BESRA ??? or R* just intentionally replace hydra's VTOL role as '' vulkan ''

uhhhh

the jet in the trailers is the vulkan which had vertical takeoff. it is separate from the hydra, which we dont know much about other than speculation and vertical takeoff. most likely thing is that it'll be a badass av-8b with military capabilities

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u have got to be kidding me , DON'T TELL ME THAT HYDRA WILL BE ANOTHER LAME JET AGAIN LIKE BESRA ??? or R* just intentionally replace hydra's VTOL role as '' vulkan ''

uhhhh

the jet in the trailers is the vulkan which had vertical takeoff. it is separate from the hydra, which we dont know much about other than speculation and vertical takeoff. most likely thing is that it'll be a badass av-8b with military capabilities

 

how do you know? Do you work for R*? Because that doesn't make much sense.

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bkldestroya666

 

 

u have got to be kidding me , DON'T TELL ME THAT HYDRA WILL BE ANOTHER LAME JET AGAIN LIKE BESRA ??? or R* just intentionally replace hydra's VTOL role as '' vulkan ''

 

uhhhh

the jet in the trailers is the vulkan which had vertical takeoff. it is separate from the hydra, which we dont know much about other than speculation and vertical takeoff. most likely thing is that it'll be a badass av-8b with military capabilities

 

how do you know? Do you work for R*? Because that doesn't make much sense.the evidence is there, if you just look. 1. there were no mentions of a hydra in the game's handling files, only a vulkan, which had vtol-esque handling, suggested by the files. 2. the jet's vertical takeoff features are showcased in the ingame tv ad for the cunning stunt school 3. the vulkan has police chatter audio recorded for it. 4 the vulkan has strings referencing cannons, and rockets. rockets can be seen mounted on the jet in the trailers and in the ingame tv ad, and possibly cannons aswell
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u have got to be kidding me , DON'T TELL ME THAT HYDRA WILL BE ANOTHER LAME JET AGAIN LIKE BESRA ??? or R* just intentionally replace hydra's VTOL role as '' vulkan ''

uhhhh

the jet in the trailers is the vulkan which had vertical takeoff. it is separate from the hydra, which we dont know much about other than speculation and vertical takeoff. most likely thing is that it'll be a badass av-8b with military capabilities

how do you know? Do you work for R*? Because that doesn't make much sense.
the evidence is there, if you just look. 1. there were no mentions of a hydra in the game's handling files, only a vulkan, which had vtol-esque handling, suggested by the files. 2. the jet's vertical takeoff features are showcased in the ingame tv ad for the cunning stunt school 3. the vulkan has police chatter audio recorded for it. 4 the vulkan has strings referencing cannons, and rockets. rockets can be seen mounted on the jet in the trailers and in the ingame tv ad, and possibly cannons aswell

 

NOOOOO , not another unarmed jet

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bkldestroya666

 

 

 

 

u have got to be kidding me , DON'T TELL ME THAT HYDRA WILL BE ANOTHER LAME JET AGAIN LIKE BESRA ??? or R* just intentionally replace hydra's VTOL role as '' vulkan ''

 

uhhhh

the jet in the trailers is the vulkan which had vertical takeoff. it is separate from the hydra, which we dont know much about other than speculation and vertical takeoff. most likely thing is that it'll be a badass av-8b with military capabilities

how do you know? Do you work for R*? Because that doesn't make much sense.
the evidence is there, if you just look. 1. there were no mentions of a hydra in the game's handling files, only a vulkan, which had vtol-esque handling, suggested by the files. 2. the jet's vertical takeoff features are showcased in the ingame tv ad for the cunning stunt school 3. the vulkan has police chatter audio recorded for it. 4 the vulkan has strings referencing cannons, and rockets. rockets can be seen mounted on the jet in the trailers and in the ingame tv ad, and possibly cannons aswell

 

NOOOOO , not another unarmed jethow do you know the hydra is unarmed

if rockstar isnt complete phuckkwits, which i doubt sometimes, they will make the hydra have some kind of weapons

 

this:

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i want to believe

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Personally, no, not really. Perhaps I'm the wrong person to ask, though, since I'm an average, competent pilot at best. I keep meaning to practice more but every time I could fly a plane I end up racing around on motorcycles instead.

 

Honestly I'd rather see a seaplane, maybe the Skimmer, or even that big badass prop plane they had in The Expendables.

 

EDIT: According to Google it's actually classed as a flying boat. Neat!

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L0SS4NT0SK1LL3RV

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, I REALLY want the Hydra. Anything that could compete the Lazer would be a great addition to dog fighting in GTAO. Plus I just love Harriers and besides from what I can tell, the Hydra isn't going to be a subsonic attack jet like the AV-8b. However no matter how or where I look at it, I still can't spot cannons on the thing. I'm not really worried about this when it comes to Air-to-Ground assaults. It should still be able to duel fire rockets in quick succession as it did in SA making Air-to-Ground a non-issue. On the flip side I'm curious to see how it handles Air-to-Air without cannon fire. Maybe it will be able to quickly fire duel locked on rockets making a it a bitch to deal with. But you really can't replace a jets cannons with more rockets. We'll just have to wait and see. Maybe it will have cannon, maybe perhaps not explosive but cannons are always better than no cannons. You can't really have a fighter jet without them.

 

By the way for all you people worried about more jets in GTAO. Just buy your own jet when they come out. Nuclear deterrence won the cold war and now you can too! Buy a jet and win the war on griefing today!

For those interest in getting good or if you just want to be competitive with your dog fighting skills. I'll be creating a elite fighter squadron and crew on the PS3 for GTAO. Keep a look out for me on the forms and i'll be sure to

drop some more details when i'm active again.

didnt read it all but what i think you think is a hydra is a beta vehicle called vulkan (from piecing together strings relating to a jet called vulkan), and the hydra is probably going to be very different, but it is going to be a vertical take off vehicle for sure

Excuse me but please don't be so quick to dismiss what i'm saying. What reason do you have to believe that the jet i'm referring to is in fact not the new Hydra?

just look up all the things vulkan relates to from the forums and you'll find that it is a vehicle with hover mode, cannons, and rockets. there is also no strings relating to a hydra outside of recently added ones, but the vulkan things have been there forever. by this logic i can assume that the hydra wont look like the jet in the first and second trailer, since it has only recently been mentioned in the game's internal hashes and strings

There's a issue with your claim. As you have stated the Vulkan not only has VTOL and rockets but it also has cannons. This is the issue with your claim that the jet shown in GTAV trailers 1 & 2 is the Vulkan. The jet that is shown in GTAV trailers 1 & 2 can not be confirmed for having cannons and has no name officially tied to it as of yet. Given how past GTA vehicles like the Hotknife and other cars have been redesign for GTAV I wouldn't dismiss the unnamed aircraft shown in GTAV trailers 1 & 2 just yet.

 

 

 

Also, thank you Pizentu.

plausible, but just to play devil's advocate, i think i can see cannons on the bottom of the fuselage

i can see 2 holes, which are either a graphical glitch on all good photos i found, or actual designgta5jettrailer.jpgactually no those are definitely cannons

Sorry sir, but this is not the Hydra, this is the cut fighter jet called Vulkan, you can see it in some audio files for cut vehicles, the Hydra will be a totally new aircraft to the game just like the Besra.quote trains but wudeva your point is my point exactly and once i brought it up on another thread people went ohhhhh now i know

 

Exactly, i only knew this because of you, thanks for breaking my hopes LoL

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u have got to be kidding me , DON'T TELL ME THAT HYDRA WILL BE ANOTHER LAME JET AGAIN LIKE BESRA ??? or R* just intentionally replace hydra's VTOL role as '' vulkan ''

uhhhh

the jet in the trailers is the vulkan which had vertical takeoff. it is separate from the hydra, which we dont know much about other than speculation and vertical takeoff. most likely thing is that it'll be a badass av-8b with military capabilities

how do you know? Do you work for R*? Because that doesn't make much sense.
the evidence is there, if you just look. 1. there were no mentions of a hydra in the game's handling files, only a vulkan, which had vtol-esque handling, suggested by the files. 2. the jet's vertical takeoff features are showcased in the ingame tv ad for the cunning stunt school 3. the vulkan has police chatter audio recorded for it. 4 the vulkan has strings referencing cannons, and rockets. rockets can be seen mounted on the jet in the trailers and in the ingame tv ad, and possibly cannons aswell

 

That's funny, because I have seen lines etc of the hydra (pre-patches) and never heard of the Vulkan radio chatter. Only VTOL, but no Vulkan. Do you possibly have any link or so?

 

off-topic: I'm already glad we'll get the Skimmer^^

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bkldestroya666

 

 

 

 

u have got to be kidding me , DON'T TELL ME THAT HYDRA WILL BE ANOTHER LAME JET AGAIN LIKE BESRA ??? or R* just intentionally replace hydra's VTOL role as '' vulkan ''

 

uhhhh

the jet in the trailers is the vulkan which had vertical takeoff. it is separate from the hydra, which we dont know much about other than speculation and vertical takeoff. most likely thing is that it'll be a badass av-8b with military capabilities

how do you know? Do you work for R*? Because that doesn't make much sense.
the evidence is there, if you just look. 1. there were no mentions of a hydra in the game's handling files, only a vulkan, which had vtol-esque handling, suggested by the files. 2. the jet's vertical takeoff features are showcased in the ingame tv ad for the cunning stunt school 3. the vulkan has police chatter audio recorded for it. 4 the vulkan has strings referencing cannons, and rockets. rockets can be seen mounted on the jet in the trailers and in the ingame tv ad, and possibly cannons aswell

 

That's funny, because I have seen lines etc of the hydra (pre-patches) and never heard of the Vulkan radio chatter. Only VTOL, but no Vulkan. Do you possibly have any link or so?

 

off-topic: I'm already glad we'll get the Skimmer^^

http://tcrf.net/Grand_Theft_Auto_V

the vtol audio is probably a more general alternative to the vulkan in the police chatter but they could reuse it for the hydra

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u have got to be kidding me , DON'T TELL ME THAT HYDRA WILL BE ANOTHER LAME JET AGAIN LIKE BESRA ??? or R* just intentionally replace hydra's VTOL role as '' vulkan ''

uhhhh

the jet in the trailers is the vulkan which had vertical takeoff. it is separate from the hydra, which we dont know much about other than speculation and vertical takeoff. most likely thing is that it'll be a badass av-8b with military capabilities

how do you know? Do you work for R*? Because that doesn't make much sense.
the evidence is there, if you just look. 1. there were no mentions of a hydra in the game's handling files, only a vulkan, which had vtol-esque handling, suggested by the files. 2. the jet's vertical takeoff features are showcased in the ingame tv ad for the cunning stunt school 3. the vulkan has police chatter audio recorded for it. 4 the vulkan has strings referencing cannons, and rockets. rockets can be seen mounted on the jet in the trailers and in the ingame tv ad, and possibly cannons aswell
NOOOOO , not another unarmed jethow do you know the hydra is unarmed

if rockstar isnt complete phuckkwits, which i doubt sometimes, they will make the hydra have some kind of weapons

 

this:

av8front.jpg

i want to believe

 

i taught '' besra '' was hydra's brother ( due naming similarities : ra )

even 1 unarmed jet like besra wasn't satisfy me even though it's agility able to overwhelm lazer's weaponry system

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