Do you REALLY want the Hydra?

[bkldestroya666]

 

plausible, but just to play devil's advocate, i think i can see cannons on the bottom of the fuselage

i can see 2 holes, which are either a graphical glitch on all good photos i found, or actual design

 

Not exactly. Possible but highly unlikely and here's why.

First let me remind you that aircraft in the first 2 trailers is in fact based off of the AV-8b AKA the Harrier II. lets take a look at at the 2 and compare them.

 

Here is a close up of the bottom of our unnamed fighter taken from the exact same trailer.

 

Now here are some picture of the Harrier II's cannon location and landing gears. respectively.

 

As you can see here is the cannon and the gears.

Finally we have another comparison from trailer 1.

 

From this angle you can see clearly these to aircraft are nearly identical however for there is one major difference. The exterior cannons for the Harrier II are nowhere to be found at the bottom of our unnamed aircraft.

the whole plane is definitely not based on the harrier 2, only the intakes, wings, and the exhaust nozzles. everything else is rockstar's own design with influences from things like the f35b

i can also see the cannons in your pic aswell

 

i'd love this jet as a separate thing but i want the actual hydra to be something nicer, the after burner and exhaust nozzle combo is sort of cringe worthy because it is illogical for an actual jet

[LonerStoner97]

NO. We don't need no more aircraft, especially fighter aircraft, the jet, buzzard. Are enough for noobs to troll with.

[Shaundi.]

NO. We don't need no more aircraft, especially fighter aircraft, the jet, buzzard. Are enough for noobs to troll with.

Just because Rockstar may add it doesn't mean EVERYONE will use it.

[MetalThrasherXtreme]

It just doesn't make sense to me from anything but a nostalgia stand point. What good would it really do in this game? It'll be chopped liver for anyone with a Lazer, Buzzard, RPG or sniper rifle. Hovering offers no advantage to combat, just makes you a sitting duck. If it were as easy to control as a helicopter, it would be over powered. Even then, you have the buzzard already, so what's the point? I just don't get what real benefit the hydra would have to choose it over a buzzard or a Lazer. Landing on rooftops, maybe? But man, you sure are an easy target when you're hovering.

 

You do realize the Hydra can actually fly fast, right? It just has the option to hover, which is amazing.

 

Why shouldn't there be another type of jet? What the f*ck does it matter to you for? It's something a large amount of the community wants and it would make them happy to have in the game, along with the Hunter.

 

Let those of us who want them worry about how we'll kill/get killed.

[HipHopMagician]

I want a Hydra really bad. I had a ton of fun hovering with the F35 in BF4 and killing enemies and capturing points in it. If we could get the Hydra in this game, I'd fly it so much. I just hope the hovering isn't ridiculously slow and you can control it well.

[kimle]

I want a Hydra really bad. I had a ton of fun hovering with the F35 in BF4 and killing enemies and capturing points in it. If we could get the Hydra in this game, I'd fly it so much. I just hope the hovering isn't ridiculously slow and you can control it well.

it will probably have the same handling of a cargo bob when hovering and the speed of a lazer when flying and the normal lock on rockets but i dont know if they will add the explosive machine gun from the lazer to it or the normal one from the buzzard i hope they make it so it has explosive machine gun but you can only use it in flight mode because if it dosent have it it will always lose in air battles

[Salv000]

 

 

plausible, but just to play devil's advocate, i think i can see cannons on the bottom of the fuselage

i can see 2 holes, which are either a graphical glitch on all good photos i found, or actual design

Not exactly. Possible but highly unlikely and here's why.

First let me remind you that aircraft in the first 2 trailers is in fact based off of the AV-8b AKA the Harrier II. lets take a look at at the 2 and compare them.

 

Here is a close up of the bottom of our unnamed fighter taken from the exact same trailer.

 

Now here are some picture of the Harrier II's cannon location and landing gears. respectively.

 

As you can see here is the cannon and the gears.

Finally we have another comparison from trailer 1.

 

From this angle you can see clearly these to aircraft are nearly identical however for there is one major difference. The exterior cannons for the Harrier II are nowhere to be found at the bottom of our unnamed aircraft.

the whole plane is definitely not based on the harrier 2, only the intakes, wings, and the exhaust nozzles. everything else is rockstar's own design with influences from things like the f35b

i can also see the cannons in your pic aswell

 

i'd love this jet as a separate thing but i want the actual hydra to be something nicer, the after burner and exhaust nozzle combo is sort of cringe worthy because it is illogical for an actual jet

 

 

Yes, it is clearly easy to see that this jet in it's entirety is not base solely off the Harrier II. The nose and cockpit of the plane belongs to the F-35b as well as the tail end which is a cross between the F-16 and F-35b. So as you can see Rockstar is not that creative when it comes to there fighter jet designs for example lets take a look at the P-996 Lazer's design and comparison to the F-16.

As you can see here everything except for the tail end is nearly identical.

With that in mind could you do me a favor and point out exactly where you are seeing these cannons?

 

 

 

"the after burner and exhaust nozzle combo is sort of cringe worthy because it is illogical for an actual jet", Yep had the same feel.

Edited August 30, 2014 by Salv000

[bkldestroya666]

 

 

 

plausible, but just to play devil's advocate, i think i can see cannons on the bottom of the fuselage

i can see 2 holes, which are either a graphical glitch on all good photos i found, or actual design

 

Not exactly. Possible but highly unlikely and here's why.

First let me remind you that aircraft in the first 2 trailers is in fact based off of the AV-8b AKA the Harrier II. lets take a look at at the 2 and compare them.

Here is a close up of the bottom of our unnamed fighter taken from the exact same trailer.

 

Now here are some picture of the Harrier II's cannon location and landing gears. respectively.

As you can see here is the cannon and the gears.

Finally we have another comparison from trailer 1.

From this angle you can see clearly these to aircraft are nearly identical however for there is one major difference. The exterior cannons for the Harrier II are nowhere to be found at the bottom of our unnamed aircraft.

the whole plane is definitely not based on the harrier 2, only the intakes, wings, and the exhaust nozzles. everything else is rockstar's own design with influences from things like the f35b

i can also see the cannons in your pic aswell

i'd love this jet as a separate thing but i want the actual hydra to be something nicer, the after burner and exhaust nozzle combo is sort of cringe worthy because it is illogical for an actual jet

 

Yes, it is clearly easy to see that this jet in it's entirety is not base solely off the Harrier II. The nose and cockpit of the plane belongs to the F-35b as well as the tail end which is a cross between the F-16 and F-35b. So as you can see Rockstar is not that creative when it comes to there fighter jet designs for example lets take a look at the P-996 Lazer's design and comparison to the F-16.

As you can see here everything except for the tail end is nearly identical.

With that in mind could you do me a favor and point out exactly where you are seeing these cannons?

 

 

 

"the after burner and exhaust nozzle combo is sort of cringe worthy because it is illogical for an actual jet", Yep had the same feel.

cant circle them out cos no pc in my posession, but they are past the intakes on either side of the nose

[NeonBlade]

We'll know what kind of developer Rockstar is if they implement a Hydra. A tool simply to actively troll Lobbies and peddle Shark Cards. Or they spend time and creativity implementing more multi-tiered missions and heists.

[bkldestroya666]

We'll know what kind of developer Rockstar is if they implement a Hydra. A tool simply to actively troll Lobbies and peddle Shark Cards. Or they spend time and creativity implementing more multi-tiered missions and heists.

rockstar would be a developer that actively searched for things people want other than heists if they added it in

 

missions have always been a chore, heists will probably just be glorified ones with a setup phase, cant see how someone would rather have them instead of something as legendary as a hydra

 

tf am i still doing here wudeva

[JimmyFantastic]

I would like a Hunter for old times sake.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

 

my ideal hydra would be:

-1 seater (mainly for the looks but i just dont like 2 seater jets even when they are sleek)

-available on the internet with a level lock of 75 and a price of whatever

handling:

-cargobob handling in a hover, with slightly more stiff thumbstick control

-vestra handling in conventional flight

-switching between modes in similar fashion to convertible roofs, except with no interruption if the player decides to accellerate

weapons:

-1 minigun mounted on the bottom in a pod, damage equivalent of all the annihilator guns being trained on 1 spot, slightly longer range, better accuracy than the heli miniguns (no explosive rounds ofcourse)

-dual firing rockets with no homing ability, but faster projectile speed and reload twice as fast as normal rocket cooldown

-single homing missiles, loading half as fast as ordinary missiles on both the buzzard, and the lazer

trying to stay on topic: if the hydra was like this, it would still satisfy everyone with the ability to land and take off vertically while having jet speed and having proper armament, without becoming a massive burden in online sessions, unless someone is really good with one, but then again, ive spawncamped several people with a buzzard

 

how about instead of annihilator machine guns it could have machine guns from the laser?

 

how come hovering in a hydra would be such a problem while hovering in a buzzard is not?

what's your reasoning behind this?

 

anyway, I would not like it to be added but that's just because I feel all these heavy military vehicles don't really fit in with the rest of the game.

not because it would be useless or underpowered, quite the opposite I imagine

 

the thing is rockstar isnt good at balancing

anything that can hover like the chopper and woud have the same mg the laser fighter jet has is definatly overpowered, sertainly if it also can accelerate like a fighter jet at the same time and be delivered at every heliport in the game

The Hydra should be added. But anti-air launchers should be added with them. It would be simple to just port the Buzzard/Laser lock-on and missiles to a new launcher.

 

i think we shoud get a stinger misile even without any new aircraft being added already.

though i think the missiles shoud cost atleast 10 000 a piece and the reload shoudnt be that great, otherwise it woud be to overpowered

 

shooting weapons cost money? gtfoIf its garantied or almost garantied to hit everything it autolocks on thats nothing more then reasonable

[kimle]

 

 

my ideal hydra would be:

-1 seater (mainly for the looks but i just dont like 2 seater jets even when they are sleek)

-available on the internet with a level lock of 75 and a price of whatever

handling:

-cargobob handling in a hover, with slightly more stiff thumbstick control

-vestra handling in conventional flight

-switching between modes in similar fashion to convertible roofs, except with no interruption if the player decides to accellerate

weapons:

-1 minigun mounted on the bottom in a pod, damage equivalent of all the annihilator guns being trained on 1 spot, slightly longer range, better accuracy than the heli miniguns (no explosive rounds ofcourse)

-dual firing rockets with no homing ability, but faster projectile speed and reload twice as fast as normal rocket cooldown

-single homing missiles, loading half as fast as ordinary missiles on both the buzzard, and the lazer

trying to stay on topic: if the hydra was like this, it would still satisfy everyone with the ability to land and take off vertically while having jet speed and having proper armament, without becoming a massive burden in online sessions, unless someone is really good with one, but then again, ive spawncamped several people with a buzzard

how about instead of annihilator machine guns it could have machine guns from the laser?

 

how come hovering in a hydra would be such a problem while hovering in a buzzard is not?

what's your reasoning behind this?

 

anyway, I would not like it to be added but that's just because I feel all these heavy military vehicles don't really fit in with the rest of the game.

not because it would be useless or underpowered, quite the opposite I imagine

the thing is rockstar isnt good at balancing

anything that can hover like the chopper and woud have the same mg the laser fighter jet has is definatly overpowered, sertainly if it also can accelerate like a fighter jet at the same time and be delivered at every heliport in the game

The Hydra should be added. But anti-air launchers should be added with them. It would be simple to just port the Buzzard/Laser lock-on and missiles to a new launcher.

i think we shoud get a stinger misile even without any new aircraft being added already.

though i think the missiles shoud cost atleast 10 000 a piece and the reload shoudnt be that great, otherwise it woud be to overpowered

shooting weapons cost money? gtfoIf its garantied or almost garantied to hit everything it autolocks on thats nothing more then reasonable

 

auto lock rockets dont even hit most of the time

[SkylineGTRFreak]

Why? Because I have 2 fighters I can put mods on when it comes to PC

 

Also, without doing the quote train now, it's a mix between AV-8B and F-35A, not F-35B.

Edited August 30, 2014 by SkylineGTRFreak

[bkldestroya666]

Why? Because I have 2 fighters I can put mods on when it comes to PC

 

Also, without doing the quote train now, it's a mix between AV-8B and F-35A, not F-35B.

not to piss off a jet-dude but the f35 and it's variants only differ in wingspan and the fact that the b-variant has an articulated engine and a turbo fan so it could just as well be based on any

[ninjaontour]

Hovering is not useless. This way I can text people abuse before I rain down death on them without worrying about changing course and crashing.

 

RPG ain't gonna hit me at like 8000 feet.

[GTA4131]

Do I really want the Hydra? simple answer - Yes. As you may be able to tell from my profile picture

Edited August 30, 2014 by GTA4131

[Relative007]

I see it as completely pointless adding any additional Helicopters or Planes unless they are armed as a sufficient variety of unarmed variants now exists... At any rate the Buzzard is superior to everything as it has uses beyond getting from Point A to B and the occasional stunt flying.

[bkldestroya666]

I see it as completely pointless adding any additional Helicopters or Planes unless they are armed as a sufficient variety of unarmed variants now exists... At any rate the Buzzard is superior to everything as it has uses beyond getting from Point A to B and the occasional stunt flying.

 

how about adding a thing that is not only a plane, but has heli charasteristics, and is also armed? thats right, yo its the hydra Edited August 30, 2014 by bkldestroya666

[kimle]

You people saying the buzzard is better than hydra better hope to God that when it comes out it dosent have the lazer explosive cannon when hovering because you know il be spawn trapping you people

Edited August 30, 2014 by kimle

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

 

 

The Hydra should be added. But anti-air launchers should be added with them. It would be simple to just port the Buzzard/Laser lock-on and missiles to a new launcher.

 

i think we shoud get a stinger misile even without any new aircraft being added already.

though i think the missiles shoud cost atleast 10 000 a piece and the reload shoudnt be that great, otherwise it woud be to overpowered

 

I have been wishing for a stinger/heat-seeking missile launcher since the game first came out, but 10k for each missile? Why? If it acts like the Buzzard/Lazer rockets it means it can only lock onto aircraft and enemies in missions, otherwise it's a basic RPG. They should cost 1k or maybe 1.5k, but not 10k.

 

But if they do add them I also think they should be able to lock onto tanks. THAT would certainly make Free Roam more interesting.

If guided rockets woud be to cheap soon it woud atract grievers

If there ever woud be guided misiles put ingame they shoud cost much more then rph rockets for sure

[Skylan]

Make the Hydra the ULTIMATE Lazer killer, but incapable of killing or even touching anything else.

[CarnageRacing00]

...this thread has been mostly civil and good conversation... Am I on gtaforum or did I post on the wrong site?

 

Well done fellow forum goers, we need more discussions like this. I'm proud.

[LordVukodlak]

There is some versatility in the hydra you could sweep an area with guns and missiles in hover or near hover mode before either jetting off at high speeds or landing in narrow surroundings.

 

 

Because it has hover capabilities it could also spawn at helipads instead of at an airport which is a major advantage further more everyone would try to steal it from you so it be hilarious to booby trap with sticky bombs then leaving somewhere for someone to take.

[kimle]

...this thread has been mostly civil and good conversation... Am I on gtaforum or did I post on the wrong site?

 

Well done fellow forum goers, we need more discussions like this. I'm proud.

cool story bro

Make the Hydra the ULTIMATE Lazer killer, but incapable of killing or even touching anything else.

smh what stupid idea is this?

[G_Masta_Phunk]

Id rather see a Rustler.... imagine single prop machine gun dogfights in the skys of LS

 

[Zito]

if they do release that. hopefully it isn't a DLC for that specific object, to wait another few months for another DLC. would be better if it was part of a a big pack or something. and that why no one cares lol.

[Mac4167]

I prefer an Opsrey aircraft

[oidgod]

 

 

my ideal hydra would be:

-1 seater (mainly for the looks but i just dont like 2 seater jets even when they are sleek)

-available on the internet with a level lock of 75 and a price of whatever

handling:

-cargobob handling in a hover, with slightly more stiff thumbstick control

-vestra handling in conventional flight

-switching between modes in similar fashion to convertible roofs, except with no interruption if the player decides to accellerate

weapons:

-1 minigun mounted on the bottom in a pod, damage equivalent of all the annihilator guns being trained on 1 spot, slightly longer range, better accuracy than the heli miniguns (no explosive rounds ofcourse)

-dual firing rockets with no homing ability, but faster projectile speed and reload twice as fast as normal rocket cooldown

-single homing missiles, loading half as fast as ordinary missiles on both the buzzard, and the lazer

trying to stay on topic: if the hydra was like this, it would still satisfy everyone with the ability to land and take off vertically while having jet speed and having proper armament, without becoming a massive burden in online sessions, unless someone is really good with one, but then again, ive spawncamped several people with a buzzard

how about instead of annihilator machine guns it could have machine guns from the laser?

i could live with that but half the forum cant so im leaning towards a more 'balanced' approach

 

No way in hell I'm giving everyone who has the intelligence to watch dumbasslive or one of his youtuber buddies and money glitches explosive rounds. No way.

Edited August 31, 2014 by oidgod

[kimle]

 

 

 

my ideal hydra would be:

-1 seater (mainly for the looks but i just dont like 2 seater jets even when they are sleek)

-available on the internet with a level lock of 75 and a price of whatever

handling:

-cargobob handling in a hover, with slightly more stiff thumbstick control

-vestra handling in conventional flight

-switching between modes in similar fashion to convertible roofs, except with no interruption if the player decides to accellerate

weapons:

-1 minigun mounted on the bottom in a pod, damage equivalent of all the annihilator guns being trained on 1 spot, slightly longer range, better accuracy than the heli miniguns (no explosive rounds ofcourse)

-dual firing rockets with no homing ability, but faster projectile speed and reload twice as fast as normal rocket cooldown

-single homing missiles, loading half as fast as ordinary missiles on both the buzzard, and the lazer

trying to stay on topic: if the hydra was like this, it would still satisfy everyone with the ability to land and take off vertically while having jet speed and having proper armament, without becoming a massive burden in online sessions, unless someone is really good with one, but then again, ive spawncamped several people with a buzzard

how about instead of annihilator machine guns it could have machine guns from the laser?

i could live with that but half the forum cant so im leaning towards a more 'balanced' approach

 

No way in hell I'm giving everyone who has the intelligence to watch dumbasslive or one of his youtuber buddies and money glitches explosive rounds. No way.

 

you only have 16 and your kd is trash please let the pro players talk