How to manually Shift

[X S]

The game is auto mostly because most Americans have no clue how to use gears as they mostly all have auto cars .

 

(Where as in the UK, most of our cars are manual, to the extent, if you passed your driving test in an auto, you are not allowed to drive a manual and would have to take another test to drive a manual.)

 

Just like all Americans are fat and no one brushes their teeth in the UK?

 

Please... In fact, all of the most recent super cars to come out of Europe in the last decade all have paddle-shifters on them now. This includes, Aston Martin, your highly coveted UK sports car manufacturer. In fact, it's American super cars that all still come in stick as a standard, ie. Viper, Z06, Ford GT.

[Zwenkwiel]

 

I actually beat a massacre with my sultan by doing this technique

You must not have read the part where I said it only works in RWD cars except electric ones

 

Because in real life, manual shifting is fun. In a videogame, not so much.

this, between driving at high speeds trough traffic while shooting at moving targets and at the same time manipulating the camera and keeping an eye on the minimap every now and than

the "pressure" of having to manually shift while navigating this chaotic environment would just be too much for me and the controller to handle.

 

perhaps in a race it could work but I've never really liked doing it in videogames, dno if it's having to shift with the controller or me not physically being in the car but it has always felt off somehow.

tapping a button 2 times just isn't the same as physically shifting from 5th to 3th (unless you have those formula 1 style paddle shifters I geuss)

Fanatec Wheel system

 

 

uhm wut?

is that the proper name for those formula 1 paddle shifters or something?

 

edit: never mind, should have googled it right away

anyway could you even use that on a console and still use the controller for the on-foot parts?

and how about shooting from a car?

 

 

The game is auto mostly because most Americans have no clue how to use gears as they mostly all have auto cars .

 

(Where as in the UK, most of our cars are manual, to the extent, if you passed your driving test in an auto, you are not allowed to drive a manual and would have to take another test to drive a manual.)

 

Just like all Americans are fat and no one brushes their teeth in the UK?

 

Please... In fact, all of the most recent super cars to come out of Europe in the last decade all have paddle-shifters on them now. This includes, Aston Martin, your highly coveted UK sports car manufacturer. In fact, it's American super cars that all still come in stick as a standard, ie. Viper, Z06, Ford GT.

 

 

not the point he was making, and besides paddle shifters=/=auto

most consumer cars in the US are automatic so more people would be used to automatic transmissions

where-as in the UK and europe manual transmission is the standard so more people are familiar with it.

 

the way it was formulated was a bit derogatory, I agree, but the basic premise is accurate.

Edited August 29, 2014 by Zwenkwiel

[The Byzantine Empire]

I think some cars in GTA has manual shifting but the character changes the shift so you feel like it is a automatic shift. Because old cars, trucks and vans have manuel shifting.

 

I know there is no "manuel gearbox change simulation" in the car when you drive, but the character changes the shift when you drive cars which must have manuel shifting. Like trucks, vans etc.

[Biker_J]

 

The game is auto mostly because most Americans have no clue how to use gears as they mostly all have auto cars .

 

(Where as in the UK, most of our cars are manual, to the extent, if you passed your driving test in an auto, you are not allowed to drive a manual and would have to take another test to drive a manual.)

 

Just like all Americans are fat and no one brushes their teeth in the UK?

 

Please... In fact, all of the most recent super cars to come out of Europe in the last decade all have paddle-shifters on them now. This includes, Aston Martin, your highly coveted UK sports car manufacturer. In fact, it's American super cars that all still come in stick as a standard, ie. Viper, Z06, Ford GT.

 

 

Unless said American is a vehicle enthusiast, the chances of them either:

 

a) Having a Viper, Z06, Ford GT

b) Having a car with manual gears

 

is low.

 

Do all Americans have Viper, Z06, Ford GT?

 

I think not.

 

You'll find most of them have cars that have automatic transmission due to the fact most of them simply choose not to have cars that are manual.

Edited August 29, 2014 by Biker_J

[X S]

not the point he was making, and besides paddle shifters=/=auto

most consumer cars in the US are automatic so more people would be used to automatic transmissions

where-as in the UK and europe manual transmission is the standard so more people are familiar with it.

 

the way it was formulated was a bit derogatory, I agree, but the basic premise is accurate.

 

I know, I've driven several. I actually just drove my buddy's 355 F1 two days ago, so I know very well how paddle shifters work. So yes, technically it is not an automatic, but it's certainly not a stick-shift transmission.

 

Using the information he provided, the premise is actually flawed. He stated that there are two driving tests in the UK, one for automatic and another for manual. They are not exactly mutually exclusive, therefore, if one is to pass the driving test using an automatic, he or she may not be allowed to drive a manual. On the flip side, however, if that same individual is to pass the driving test using a manual, he or she may also be allowed to drive an automatic. This doesn't even come close to upholding his conclusion: that there are more manual than automatic drivers in the UK.

Unless said American is a vehicle enthusiast, the chances of them either:

 

a) Having a Viper, Z06, Ford GT

b) Having a car with manual gears

 

is low.

 

Do all Americans have Viper, Z06, Ford GT?

 

I think not.

 

You'll find most of them have cars that have automatic transmission due to the fact most of them simply choose not to have cars that are manual.

 

Please see above response.

Edited August 29, 2014 by Crossed Sabres

[Biker_J]

 

not the point he was making, and besides paddle shifters=/=auto

most consumer cars in the US are automatic so more people would be used to automatic transmissions

where-as in the UK and europe manual transmission is the standard so more people are familiar with it.

 

the way it was formulated was a bit derogatory, I agree, but the basic premise is accurate.

 

I know, I've driven several. I actually just drove my buddy's 355 F1 two days ago, so I know very well how paddle shifters work. So yes, technically it is not an automatic, but it's certainly not a stick-shift transmission.

 

Using the information he provided, the premise is actually flawed. He stated that there are two driving tests in the UK, one for automatic and another for manual. They are not exactly mutually exclusive, therefore, if one is to pass the driving test using an automatic, he or she may not be allowed to drive a manual. On the flip side, however, if that same individual is to pass the driving test using a manual, he or she may also be allowed to drive a manual. This doesn't even come close to upholding his conclusion: that there are more manual than automatic drivers in the UK.

 

I can tell you for a fact that the two test thing is very much a real thing in the UK, more info on that here: http://www.2pass.co.uk/auto.htm

 

Most people in the UK do in fact have manual cars, it's pretty much the normal here partly because most will choose the manual test so they can drive both types of cars and simply prefer manual.

 

However, in the US, Average Joe, and Average Jane will most likely have an automatic transmission on their vehicle, and rarely use manual cars.

 

It's just the way it is. I don't see why your making a big issue out of it to be honest.

[X S]

I can tell you for a fact that the two test thing is very much a real thing in the UK, more info on that here: http://www.2pass.co.uk/auto.htm

 

 

Most people in the UK do in fact have manual cars, it's pretty much the normal here partly because most will choose the manual test so they can drive both types of cars and simply prefer manual.

 

However, in the US, Average Joe, and Average Jane will most likely have an automatic transmission on their vehicle, and rarely use manual cars.

 

It's just the way it is. I don't see why your making a big issue out of it to be honest.

 

Then don't dish it out, m8.

 

Besides that, why would anyone actually choose to drive a manual transmission? Other than car enthusiasts, how is a manual preferable for your average bloke driving to work in the morning? I'm just curious.

[who-dat]

^where are you finding info that 'most Americans will drive an automatic'.

 

Seems like you would have little to no insight, due to the fact you live across an ocean.....

 

When I began driving (legally) 17years ago, I knew how to drive a stick....

[Biker_J]

 

I can tell you for a fact that the two test thing is very much a real thing in the UK, more info on that here: http://www.2pass.co.uk/auto.htm

 

 

Most people in the UK do in fact have manual cars, it's pretty much the normal here partly because most will choose the manual test so they can drive both types of cars and simply prefer manual.

 

However, in the US, Average Joe, and Average Jane will most likely have an automatic transmission on their vehicle, and rarely use manual cars.

 

It's just the way it is. I don't see why your making a big issue out of it to be honest.

 

Then don't dish it out, m8.

 

Besides that, why would anyone actually choose to drive a manual transmission? Other than car enthusiasts, how is a manual preferable for your average bloke driving to work in the morning? I'm just curious.

 

 

Because it's the normal over here. Just the way it is, ever since I was a kid, I was in manual cars (as passenger) and when I eventually learned to drive I was learning in a manual car, and when I passed my test I was in a manual car, so when I purchased my first car, it was a manual car.

 

So, I guess for most other people in the UK it's the same story, it's just what we are used to.

 

When I drive my car the gears are not "an inconvenience" or "a problem" in truth, I barely notice they are there it becomes an automatic reaction to change your gears. I rarely even look at the rev meter as I know by the engine sound when the gears need changing.

 

When you drive a manual often enough, it's nothing special and you become so used to it, it doesn't bother you that you have to change gears.

 

 

^where are you finding info that 'most Americans will drive an automatic'.

 

Seems like you would have little to no insight, due to the fact you live across an ocean.....

 

When I began driving (legally) 17years ago, I knew how to drive a stick....

 

See here:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2121392

Edited August 29, 2014 by Biker_J

[Zwenkwiel]

 

I can tell you for a fact that the two test thing is very much a real thing in the UK, more info on that here: http://www.2pass.co.uk/auto.htm

 

 

Most people in the UK do in fact have manual cars, it's pretty much the normal here partly because most will choose the manual test so they can drive both types of cars and simply prefer manual.

 

However, in the US, Average Joe, and Average Jane will most likely have an automatic transmission on their vehicle, and rarely use manual cars.

 

It's just the way it is. I don't see why your making a big issue out of it to be honest.

 

Then don't dish it out, m8.

 

Besides that, why would anyone actually choose to drive a manual transmission? Other than car enthusiasts, how is a manual preferable for your average bloke driving to work in the morning? I'm just curious.

 

 

having more control, better fuel efficiency and lower costs can all play a part in the decision to go for a manual transmission.

while the only real benefit of an automatic is ease of use.

Edited August 29, 2014 by Zwenkwiel

[X S]

Because it's the normal over here. Just the way it is, ever since I was a kid, I was in manual cars (as passenger) and when I eventually learned to drive I was learning in a manual car, and when I passed my test I was in a manual car, so when I purchased my first car, it was a manual car.

 

So, I guess for most other people in the UK it's the same story, it's just what we are used to.

 

When I drive my car the gears are not "an inconvenience" or "a problem" in truth, I barely notice they are there it becomes an automatic reaction to change your gears. I rarely even look at the rev meter as I know by the engine sound when the gears need changing.

 

When you drive a manual often enough, it's nothing special and you become so used to it, it doesn't bother you that you have to change gears.

 

Ok, I respect that opinion, but I still personally see automatics being of greater ease when doing things like eating, drinking or using your phone while driving, all things I know you're not suppose to be doing while driving.. lol

 

having more control, better fuel efficiency and lower costs can all play a part in the decision to go for a manual transmission.

while the only real benefit of an automatic is ease of use.

 

Most of that is no longer true. Manual transmission used to be more fuel efficient, but as technology has advanced, automatic transmissions have been proven to be equally, if not more, fuel efficient than many manual transmission models. The public is slowly fading away from manual transmission models because like everything else concerning technology, we embrace technology that makes our lives easier. That's just a natural occurrence of human evolution. It's also why most major supercars are now equipped with paddle-shifters, because the technology has far exceeded the speed in which a human could actually perform the shifting themselves.

 

I personally enjoy manual cars, but honestly, Europe's complacency with manual technology is probably no different than America's stubbornness to embrace the metric system.

Edited August 29, 2014 by Crossed Sabres

[Twin turboV8]

My first car was a stick. My second car was an Automatic. I habitually did what OP is referring to IRL. At 25k miles I blew my transmission out lololol.

 

Good thing it was under warranty. The car dealer was shocked with what I had done. Good times.

so IRL you let go of the gas and then you pushed the clutch in right?

[Zwenkwiel]

 

Because it's the normal over here. Just the way it is, ever since I was a kid, I was in manual cars (as passenger) and when I eventually learned to drive I was learning in a manual car, and when I passed my test I was in a manual car, so when I purchased my first car, it was a manual car.

 

So, I guess for most other people in the UK it's the same story, it's just what we are used to.

 

When I drive my car the gears are not "an inconvenience" or "a problem" in truth, I barely notice they are there it becomes an automatic reaction to change your gears. I rarely even look at the rev meter as I know by the engine sound when the gears need changing.

 

When you drive a manual often enough, it's nothing special and you become so used to it, it doesn't bother you that you have to change gears.

 

Ok, I respect that opinion, but I still personally see automatics being of greater ease when doing things like eating, drinking or using your phone while driving, all things I know you're not suppose to be doing while driving.. lol

 

having more control, better fuel efficiency and lower costs can all play a part in the decision to go for a manual transmission.

while the only real benefit of an automatic is ease of use.

 

Most of that is no longer true. Manual transmission used to be more fuel efficient, but as technology has advanced, automatic transmissions have been proven to be equally, if not more, fuel efficient than many manual transmission models. The public is slowly fading away from manual transmission models because like everything else concerning technology, we embrace technology that makes our lives easier. That's just a natural occurrence of human evolution. It's also why most major supercars are now equipped with paddle-shifters, because the technology has far exceeded the speed in which a human could actually perform the shifting themselves.

 

I personally enjoy manual cars, but honestly, Europe's complacency with manual technology is probably no different than America's stubbornness to embrace the metric system.

 

 

says "most of that is no longer true" names a single thing XD

you're probably right about the complacency thing though, most people don't think about any of this when buying a car they just get whatever they're used to/what's on offer

anyway I don't plan on shelling out an extra 1000 bucks or so for some computer to do the shifting for me, I can do it just fine myself and I can use the money for something more useful.

 

also another thing I just thought of, automatic's can be a bitch to drive in the mountains. when driving up a steep hill you'll want to be in a lower gear than you'd normally be

automatic transmissions tend to shift up at a certain RPM without taking your speed or inclination of the road into account, can cause automatics to lose power when going uphill.

really noticed this when going on vacation with some mates, he was in some fancy convertible automatic, I was in my little diahatsu sirion

even with his way bigger engine and sporty car he was no match for me going up-hill simply because his automatic forced him to be in 5th while I was steadily climbing in 4th at a much higher RPM

 

another thing is engine braking, when going down a steep hill or on a slippery surface it's better to brake using the engine, not sure if it's entirely impossible with an automatic but the inability to shift down a gear would seriously impede the ability to brake using the engine.

[X S]

so IRL you let go of the gas and then you pushed the clutch in right?

 

No, there's no clutch. I would deliberately let off the gas and then get back on it hoping to force the transmission to shift gears. It got to the point when all you'd hear was a loud *thud*, and eventually it would not shift out of 3rd. RIP transmission.

[Zwenkwiel]

 

so IRL you let go of the gas and then you pushed the clutch in right?

 

No, there's no clutch. I would deliberately let off the gas and then get back on it hoping to force the transmission to shift gears. It got to the point when all you'd hear was a loud *thud*, and eventually it would not shift out of 3rd. RIP transmission.

 

 

lol, i could never get used to not having a clutch pedal so I'd end up trying to use the brake as a clutch (since it kind of works like that when standing still) XD

can be quite dangerous if a brainfart suddenly causes you to want to shift gears while driving XD

the fact I had to switch back and forth between the two transmission types didn't really help either

Edited August 29, 2014 by Zwenkwiel

[X S]

says "most of that is no longer true" names a single thing XD

you're probably right about the complacency thing though, most people don't think about any of this when buying a car they just get whatever they're used to/what's on offer

anyway I don't plan on shelling out an extra 1000 bucks or so for some computer to do the shifting for me, I can do it just fine myself and I can use the money for something more useful.

 

also another thing I just thought of, automatic's can be a bitch to drive in the mountains. when driving up a steep hill you'll want to be in a lower gear than you'd normally be

automatic transmissions tend to shift up at a certain RPM without taking your speed or inclination of the road into account, can cause automatics to lose power when going uphill.

really noticed this when going on vacation with some mates, he was in some fancy convertible automatic, I was in my little diahatsu sirion

even with his way bigger engine and sporty car he was no match for me going up-hill simply because his automatic forced him to be in 5th while I was steadily climbing in 4th at a much higher RPM

 

another thing is engine braking, when going down a steep hill or on a slippery surface it's better to brake using the engine, not sure if it's entirely impossible with an automatic but the inability to shift down a gear would seriously impede the ability to brake using the engine.

 

I just found most of what you were referring to as mutually exclusive. I wasn't avoiding the other aspects. So if a manual model is cheaper off the lot, what happens when an automatic-fuel efficient car makes up for the added investment in fuel costs? As for control? Formula F1 drivers use paddle-shifters, so it's debatable.

 

But you bring up a great point about all-terrain vehicles though. This is where I think manual transmission continues to shine. You'll still see trucks and buses use this in the US. I'm pretty sure Rally racing still uses manual as well. Automatics do, however, come with an ability to shift into 1st, 2nd or 3rd, and it's usually denoted as "1" "2" and "D3" below "D" on the dash.

Edited August 29, 2014 by Crossed Sabres

[Eyecandy]

2nd gear pull's you away.

[X S]

Actually I take back what I said about Formula F1 paddle shifters, because I wasn't thinking about 'control' in terms of shifting up and down.

[Zwenkwiel]

 

says "most of that is no longer true" names a single thing XD

you're probably right about the complacency thing though, most people don't think about any of this when buying a car they just get whatever they're used to/what's on offer

anyway I don't plan on shelling out an extra 1000 bucks or so for some computer to do the shifting for me, I can do it just fine myself and I can use the money for something more useful.

 

also another thing I just thought of, automatic's can be a bitch to drive in the mountains. when driving up a steep hill you'll want to be in a lower gear than you'd normally be

automatic transmissions tend to shift up at a certain RPM without taking your speed or inclination of the road into account, can cause automatics to lose power when going uphill.

really noticed this when going on vacation with some mates, he was in some fancy convertible automatic, I was in my little diahatsu sirion

even with his way bigger engine and sporty car he was no match for me going up-hill simply because his automatic forced him to be in 5th while I was steadily climbing in 4th at a much higher RPM

 

another thing is engine braking, when going down a steep hill or on a slippery surface it's better to brake using the engine, not sure if it's entirely impossible with an automatic but the inability to shift down a gear would seriously impede the ability to brake using the engine.

 

I just found most of what you were referring to as mutually exclusive. I wasn't avoiding the other aspects. So if a manual model is cheaper off the lot, what happens when an automatic-fuel efficient car makes up for the added investment in fuel costs? As for control? Formula F1 drivers use paddle-shifters, so it's debatable.

 

But you bring up a great point about all-terrain vehicles though. This is where I think manual transmission continues to shine. You'll still see trucks and buses use this in the US. I'm pretty sure Rally racing still uses manual as well. Automatics do, however, come with an ability to shift into 1st, 2nd or 3rd, and it's usually denoted as "1" "2" and "D3" below "D" on the dash.

 

 

I was talking manual giving more control than a fully automatic transmission

paddle shifters really combine the best of both worlds, you get to to decide when to shift just like a manual but the computer helps you to do so with superhuman speed and efficiency like with an automatic transmission.

 

think if you're talking optimal set-up it would be something like that, but as it stands now I can barely afford to keep my fiat sceicento on the road let alone buy a car with a state of the art transmission XD

[Biker_J]

 

Because it's the normal over here. Just the way it is, ever since I was a kid, I was in manual cars (as passenger) and when I eventually learned to drive I was learning in a manual car, and when I passed my test I was in a manual car, so when I purchased my first car, it was a manual car.

 

So, I guess for most other people in the UK it's the same story, it's just what we are used to.

 

When I drive my car the gears are not "an inconvenience" or "a problem" in truth, I barely notice they are there it becomes an automatic reaction to change your gears. I rarely even look at the rev meter as I know by the engine sound when the gears need changing.

 

When you drive a manual often enough, it's nothing special and you become so used to it, it doesn't bother you that you have to change gears.

 

Ok, I respect that opinion, but I still personally see automatics being of greater ease when doing things like eating, drinking or using your phone while driving, all things I know you're not suppose to be doing while driving.. lol

 

 

Easier, ha.

 

I do all of those things while driving a manual without any issues.

 

Heck, yesterday I was flying down the motorway at 110MPH while drinking my coffee to stay awake because of the long drive .

 

When you drive manuals enough, you're able to do all of that as you know when the car will need shifting so you can prepare for it first.

[Fox2Quick]

 

 

 

I actually beat a massacre with my sultan by doing this technique

You must not have read the part where I said it only works in RWD cars except electric ones

 

Because in real life, manual shifting is fun. In a videogame, not so much.

this, between driving at high speeds trough traffic while shooting at moving targets and at the same time manipulating the camera and keeping an eye on the minimap every now and than

the "pressure" of having to manually shift while navigating this chaotic environment would just be too much for me and the controller to handle.

 

perhaps in a race it could work but I've never really liked doing it in videogames, dno if it's having to shift with the controller or me not physically being in the car but it has always felt off somehow.

tapping a button 2 times just isn't the same as physically shifting from 5th to 3th (unless you have those formula 1 style paddle shifters I geuss)

Fanatec Wheel system

 

uhm wut?

is that the proper name for those formula 1 paddle shifters or something?

 

edit: never mind, should have googled it right away

anyway could you even use that on a console and still use the controller for the on-foot parts?

and how about shooting from a car?

I've done it. The way I do it is use the controller to get to and in my car of choice, turn off controller, turn on wheel. It works surprisingly well with GTAs driving physics, the only real issue is lack of on foot forward movement (which can be pulled off by veering the wheel side to side but takes practice and is slow) and no looking around really. You can shoot but only which way you're view is, so you have to turn the car to aim your shots. Really there's no practical use for this system in GTA unless you have enough skills to rely solely on driving. I usually only do car meets and drifting, so I don't mind the lack of functionality. It makes for an interesting trade-off if you're in a friendly, all driving lobby. When we had snow on Christmas, I used a DNS server to get the snow earlier and practice with the wheel before our crew event. It really was a blast. Snow+Futo+wheel=winning drifts

Edited August 29, 2014 by Fox2Quick

[Zwenkwiel]

 

 

Because it's the normal over here. Just the way it is, ever since I was a kid, I was in manual cars (as passenger) and when I eventually learned to drive I was learning in a manual car, and when I passed my test I was in a manual car, so when I purchased my first car, it was a manual car.

 

So, I guess for most other people in the UK it's the same story, it's just what we are used to.

 

When I drive my car the gears are not "an inconvenience" or "a problem" in truth, I barely notice they are there it becomes an automatic reaction to change your gears. I rarely even look at the rev meter as I know by the engine sound when the gears need changing.

 

When you drive a manual often enough, it's nothing special and you become so used to it, it doesn't bother you that you have to change gears.

 

Ok, I respect that opinion, but I still personally see automatics being of greater ease when doing things like eating, drinking or using your phone while driving, all things I know you're not suppose to be doing while driving.. lol

 

 

Easier, ha.

 

I do all of those things while driving a manual without any issues.

 

Heck, yesterday I was flying down the motorway at 110MPH while drinking my coffee to stay awake because of the long drive .

 

When you drive manuals enough, you're able to do all of that as you know when the car will need shifting so you can prepare for it first.

 

 

r just ignore it and let the engine rev nice and high because I'm too busy drinking and or smoking while talking on my phone ( holding it ofcourse, hands free is for pussies)

I mean only have 2 hands and I need my knees to steer the damn car

but yeah anticipating it is indeed better XD

 

I've done it. The way I do it is use the controller to get to and in my car of choice, turn off controller, turn on wheel. It works surprisingly well with GTAs driving physics, the only real issue is lack of on foot forward movement (which can be pulled off by veering the wheel side to side but takes practice and is slow) and no looking around really. You can shoot but only which way you're view is, so you have to turn the car to aim your shots. Really there's no practical use for this system in GTA unless you have enough skills to rely solely on driving. I usually only do car meets and drifting, so I don't mind the lack of functionality. It makes for an interesting trade-off if you're in a friendly, all driving lobby. When we had snow on Christmas, I used a DNS server to get the snow earlier and practice with the wheel before our crew event. It really was a blast. Snow+Futo+wheel=winning drifts

 

 

cool man, perhaps when the PC version comes out some1 will find a way to smoothly combine both inputs.

shame they'd never even consider something like this for consoles though

Edited August 29, 2014 by Zwenkwiel

[Biker_J]

 

 

 

Because it's the normal over here. Just the way it is, ever since I was a kid, I was in manual cars (as passenger) and when I eventually learned to drive I was learning in a manual car, and when I passed my test I was in a manual car, so when I purchased my first car, it was a manual car.

 

So, I guess for most other people in the UK it's the same story, it's just what we are used to.

 

When I drive my car the gears are not "an inconvenience" or "a problem" in truth, I barely notice they are there it becomes an automatic reaction to change your gears. I rarely even look at the rev meter as I know by the engine sound when the gears need changing.

 

When you drive a manual often enough, it's nothing special and you become so used to it, it doesn't bother you that you have to change gears.

 

Ok, I respect that opinion, but I still personally see automatics being of greater ease when doing things like eating, drinking or using your phone while driving, all things I know you're not suppose to be doing while driving.. lol

 

 

Easier, ha.

 

I do all of those things while driving a manual without any issues.

 

Heck, yesterday I was flying down the motorway at 110MPH while drinking my coffee to stay awake because of the long drive .

 

When you drive manuals enough, you're able to do all of that as you know when the car will need shifting so you can prepare for it first.

 

 

or just ignore it and let the engine rev nice and high because I'm too busy drinking and or smoking while talking on my phone (while holding it, hands free is for pussies)

I mean only have 2 hands and I need my knees to steer the damn car

but yeah anticipating it is indeed better XD

 

 

Letting the car overreving is how you blow the engine .

 

Yesterday was fun though.. stuck in a traffic jam for 2 hours, constant stop start.. so in the end wasn't even using throttle, just creeping forward and stopping using clutch only.

 

Though we ended up coming to a complete stop for about half hour where we ended up just turning our engines off for a while to save fuel.

 

Had this been an auto, I'd have been worried about using the throttle and going shooting forward into the back of someone or something haha.

[iTz-JoNeSy]

 

 

The game is auto mostly because most Americans have no clue how to use gears as they mostly all have auto cars .

 

(Where as in the UK, most of our cars are manual, to the extent, if you passed your driving test in an auto, you are not allowed to drive a manual and would have to take another test to drive a manual.)

Just like all Americans are fat and no one brushes their teeth in the UK?

 

Please... In fact, all of the most recent super cars to come out of Europe in the last decade all have paddle-shifters on them now. This includes, Aston Martin, your highly coveted UK sports car manufacturer. In fact, it's American super cars that all still come in stick as a standard, ie. Viper, Z06, Ford GT.

There's no need to cry your f*cking fat eyes out. Accept the fact that most Americans do NOT know how to drive manual cars. It's no biggie you know?

[Fox2Quick]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because it's the normal over here. Just the way it is, ever since I was a kid, I was in manual cars (as passenger) and when I eventually learned to drive I was learning in a manual car, and when I passed my test I was in a manual car, so when I purchased my first car, it was a manual car.

 

So, I guess for most other people in the UK it's the same story, it's just what we are used to.

 

When I drive my car the gears are not "an inconvenience" or "a problem" in truth, I barely notice they are there it becomes an automatic reaction to change your gears. I rarely even look at the rev meter as I know by the engine sound when the gears need changing.

 

When you drive a manual often enough, it's nothing special and you become so used to it, it doesn't bother you that you have to change gears.

Ok, I respect that opinion, but I still personally see automatics being of greater ease when doing things like eating, drinking or using your phone while driving, all things I know you're not suppose to be doing while driving.. lol

 

Easier, ha.

 

I do all of those things while driving a manual without any issues.

 

Heck, yesterday I was flying down the motorway at 110MPH while drinking my coffee to stay awake because of the long drive .

 

When you drive manuals enough, you're able to do all of that as you know when the car will need shifting so you can prepare for it first.

 

r just ignore it and let the engine rev nice and high because I'm too busy drinking and or smoking while talking on my phone ( holding it ofcourse, hands free is for pussies)

I mean only have 2 hands and I need my knees to steer the damn car

but yeah anticipating it is indeed better XD

 

 

I've done it. The way I do it is use the controller to get to and in my car of choice, turn off controller, turn on wheel. It works surprisingly well with GTAs driving physics, the only real issue is lack of on foot forward movement (which can be pulled off by veering the wheel side to side but takes practice and is slow) and no looking around really. You can shoot but only which way you're view is, so you have to turn the car to aim your shots. Really there's no practical use for this system in GTA unless you have enough skills to rely solely on driving. I usually only do car meets and drifting, so I don't mind the lack of functionality. It makes for an interesting trade-off if you're in a friendly, all driving lobby. When we had snow on Christmas, I used a DNS server to get the snow earlier and practice with the wheel before our crew event. It really was a blast. Snow+Futo+wheel=winning drifts

 

cool man, perhaps when the PC version comes out some1 will find a way to smoothly combine both inputs.

shame they'd never even consider something like this for consoles though

The biggest problem isn't how Anythings codes or programmed. It comes down to the wheel not having the joysticks. They can be modded with hardware, however. Theoretically, you could use a pair of joysticks off another controller and wire them in if you find the proper contact points on the motherboard. I've modded mine with an extra input for the shifters (there's a 6 speed gated and a sequential), wired it up to the a/buttons, and use the sequential shifter as a handbrake.

 

Also, to chime in on the Fat americans and manual thing, I was born and raised in New York, weigh 140, and have never owned an automatic car. All stick.

[Zwenkwiel]

 

 

 

 

Because it's the normal over here. Just the way it is, ever since I was a kid, I was in manual cars (as passenger) and when I eventually learned to drive I was learning in a manual car, and when I passed my test I was in a manual car, so when I purchased my first car, it was a manual car.

 

So, I guess for most other people in the UK it's the same story, it's just what we are used to.

 

When I drive my car the gears are not "an inconvenience" or "a problem" in truth, I barely notice they are there it becomes an automatic reaction to change your gears. I rarely even look at the rev meter as I know by the engine sound when the gears need changing.

 

When you drive a manual often enough, it's nothing special and you become so used to it, it doesn't bother you that you have to change gears.

 

Ok, I respect that opinion, but I still personally see automatics being of greater ease when doing things like eating, drinking or using your phone while driving, all things I know you're not suppose to be doing while driving.. lol

 

 

Easier, ha.

 

I do all of those things while driving a manual without any issues.

 

Heck, yesterday I was flying down the motorway at 110MPH while drinking my coffee to stay awake because of the long drive .

 

When you drive manuals enough, you're able to do all of that as you know when the car will need shifting so you can prepare for it first.

 

 

or just ignore it and let the engine rev nice and high because I'm too busy drinking and or smoking while talking on my phone (while holding it, hands free is for pussies)

I mean only have 2 hands and I need my knees to steer the damn car

but yeah anticipating it is indeed better XD

 

 

Letting the car overreving is how you blow the engine .

 

Yesterday was fun though.. stuck in a traffic jam for 2 hours, constant stop start.. so in the end wasn't even using throttle, just creeping forward and stopping using clutch only.

 

Though we ended up coming to a complete stop for about half hour where we ended up just turning our engines off for a while to save fuel.

 

Had this been an auto, I'd have been worried about using the throttle and going shooting forward into the back of someone or something haha.

 

 

yeah you're right, I was only half serious

 

funnily enough I had a similar experience as well yesterday, I wasn't exactly stuck in traffic though, was following a herd of sheep for about 4 hours on end

even if I let it "idle" in first gear I was going faster than the herd so I had to constantly play with the clutch in order not to overtake them

kind of f*cks up your leg after a while

 

couldn't you just use the brake as a sort a clutch if you were in a situation like this in an automatic though?

cuz using the throttle would indeed seem like a bit much if you want to be going 1MPH

The biggest problem isn't how Anythings codes or programmed. It comes down to the wheel not having the joysticks. They can be modded with hardware, however. Theoretically, you could use a pair of joysticks off another controller and wire them in if you find the proper contact points on the motherboard. I've modded mine with an extra input for the shifters (there's a 6 speed gated and a sequential), wired it up to the a/buttons, and use the sequential shifter as a handbrake.

Also, to chime in on the Fat americans and manual thing, I was born and raised in New York, weigh 140, and have never owned an automatic car. All stick.

 

 

ah yes, for the shooting ofcourse

I thought why not just connect a controller as player 1 and a wheel as player 2 and have the game switch when you get into a car

but ofcourse you still couldn't shoot or move the camera

and even if wheel has thumbsticks having to rotate the wheel could make them akward to use

 

I will think about this some more (cuz it would be epic)

[Biker_J]

 

 

 

 

 

Because it's the normal over here. Just the way it is, ever since I was a kid, I was in manual cars (as passenger) and when I eventually learned to drive I was learning in a manual car, and when I passed my test I was in a manual car, so when I purchased my first car, it was a manual car.

 

So, I guess for most other people in the UK it's the same story, it's just what we are used to.

 

When I drive my car the gears are not "an inconvenience" or "a problem" in truth, I barely notice they are there it becomes an automatic reaction to change your gears. I rarely even look at the rev meter as I know by the engine sound when the gears need changing.

 

When you drive a manual often enough, it's nothing special and you become so used to it, it doesn't bother you that you have to change gears.

 

Ok, I respect that opinion, but I still personally see automatics being of greater ease when doing things like eating, drinking or using your phone while driving, all things I know you're not suppose to be doing while driving.. lol

 

 

Easier, ha.

 

I do all of those things while driving a manual without any issues.

 

Heck, yesterday I was flying down the motorway at 110MPH while drinking my coffee to stay awake because of the long drive .

 

When you drive manuals enough, you're able to do all of that as you know when the car will need shifting so you can prepare for it first.

 

 

or just ignore it and let the engine rev nice and high because I'm too busy drinking and or smoking while talking on my phone (while holding it, hands free is for pussies)

I mean only have 2 hands and I need my knees to steer the damn car

but yeah anticipating it is indeed better XD

 

 

Letting the car overreving is how you blow the engine .

 

Yesterday was fun though.. stuck in a traffic jam for 2 hours, constant stop start.. so in the end wasn't even using throttle, just creeping forward and stopping using clutch only.

 

Though we ended up coming to a complete stop for about half hour where we ended up just turning our engines off for a while to save fuel.

 

Had this been an auto, I'd have been worried about using the throttle and going shooting forward into the back of someone or something haha.

 

 

yeah you're right, I was only half serious

 

funnily enough I had a similar experience as well yesterday, I wasn't exactly stuck in traffic though, was following a herd of sheep for about 4 hours on end

even if I let it "idle" in first gear I was going faster than the herd so I had to constantly play with the clutch in order not to overtake them

kind of f*cks up your leg after a while

 

couldn't you just use the brake as a sort a clutch if you were in a situation like this in an automatic though?

cuz using the throttle would indeed seem like a bit much if you want to be going 1MPH

 

 

Not sure about that.

 

I've only driven auto's for a grand total of 5 minutes, by which time it had already pissed me off and I said "f*ck it" and got out and went in my own manual car instead.

 

I didn't feel like I had enough control over the vehicle and I kept trying to manually change gears.

Edited August 29, 2014 by Biker_J

[Fox2Quick]

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yeah i understand the awkwardness of using stationary controls mounted on a moving wheel. thats why i did the e-brake mod. best solution i could think of would be to mount the thumbsticks on the shifter. that way you would already be prepared to steer with only one hand and then you have the ability to switch the shifter unit to either side of the wheel. I've made a habit of setting mine up like a right side drive car just so i can adapt to either. it makes for a real nice change of pace shifting lefty after driving my car all day.

 

Also kinda noticed something I'd like to weigh in on:

Hands free cell phone while talking is STUPID AS f*ck. I say this because imagine it this way;

 

Situation 1- talking on phone while holding it, you see you're about to be involved in stopping short/hard steering/accident etc, you can drop the phone, stop hearing whoever you're talking to, and focus

 

Situation 2- using hands free, same scenario, except instead of just dropping you're phone and focusing, you have to attempt to ficus while the person you're talking to keeps blabbering in your ear completely unaware of what's going on. Sure you can yell shut up but do you really have time to explain you're about to be in an accident to get them to stop talking in such a small window?

 

I've seen more fails because of hands free than handheld

Edited August 29, 2014 by Fox2Quick

[The_Mossberg500]

Doesn't this only work with the Banshee?

[kimle]

people still drive manual in 2014?